>>65070363
smelkaka?

>>65070371
Think Technicals. It's a Russian thing to celebrate making ends meet with chewing gum and string.

File: tknasams6336.jpg (22 KB)

22 KB JPG

>>65070363
Oh no, who would do such a thing?
I love mocking Russia as much as the next guy but mocking them for shit everyone does is just retarded.

File: AIM-120_AMRAAM_P6230147.jpg (315.9 KB)

315.9 KB JPG

they shoulda put some R-73's on it too

>>65070379
It's mainly aimed at mocking their pre-Ukraine reputation of being a mighty and modern army. Smekalka csn be genuinely crafty at making do with what you have, but if that old reputation was true they shouldn't need to resort to it.

File: Polish_20221020_170212593.png (2.6 MB)

2.6 MB PNG

>>65070387
They have proven themselves a joke rotten by a century of corruption.
This has nothing to do with the viability of SAM trucks.

Are there any problems with converting AAMs to SAMs? Unlike in the air where altitude and speed can be obtained from the aircraft on which they are launched, ground launches would likely consume a significant amount of thrust for acceleration and climb.

>>65070390
No not really. As long as it's also supported by proper sensors and not just niggerrigged to a flatbed it's a good idea. The real question is wether the puccians do have a dedicated sensor network to support that truck or if they are planning to just launch maddog R-77s at whatever they see in the sky.

>>65070390
You nailed it, they generally lack delta-V as they were never intended to be fired from 0ft AGL at 0 knots.
It would be nice to attach a first stage booster but many can't do that without major changes to the guidance system.

>>65070390
yes, due to the lack of altitude and initial speed they have lower range, but otherwise I think they just need a software adaptation and that's it

>>65070381
>>65070379
>>65070389
Difference is, those work.

>>65070390
Their range and agility will take a massive hit, so their kill envelope will be tiny compared to real SAMs

File: let me show you its features.jpg (65.1 KB)

65.1 KB JPG

>>65070396
A very big rubber band booster like a speargun!

>>65070379
Poorest country in Europe vs Second army of the world

File: ERA-Truck.png (524.9 KB)

524.9 KB PNG

>>65070371
It's basically the Russian version of life hacks, except as usual they don't know where to fucking stop and apply it to everything, including the military.
For reference, this is premium smelkalka.
>protect unarmored truck with this simple trick blyat

OPs pic does not qualify as smegma since that looks like it was actually build in a factory and not welded together (badly) by a drunk retard.

>>65070396
>were never intended to be fired from 0ft AGL at 0 knots.
So fire it from a moving truck then. Everyone except me is stupid.

>>65070530
>Poorest country in Europe
Moldova is fighting Russia?

>>65071006
>Transnistria soon
Mayhaps they will be in the not so far future.

>>65071006
Ukraine went past Moldova what with the war and all.

>>65070379
>>65070389
OP is right but not in the way he thinks he is. R-77 with its gridfins is uniquely unsuited for the SAM role, because of the additional drag it incurs in subsonic and transonic flight, where it'll spend much of its time when ground launched.

File: 1714945923423896.jpg (149.4 KB)

149.4 KB JPG

>>65070371

>>65070363
Imagine how funny it would be if they welded it wrong and it can't raise the missile rack

>>65070371
Coming up with hackjob solutions to get shit done with next to no cost, assumed to be an inherent trait in ethnic Russians.
Example:
>soviet era tractor steering wheel breaks off
>cannot be reattached because attachment point is fucked
>replacement would be hard to find/cost money
>fuck it
>tighten old wrench around steering column, use wrench to steer
>steering is absolutely horrible, far more cumbersome, and requires more effort to move, but works and cost almost nothing
>tractor is now functional for another 10 years
You can probably see some issues with the solution, and likely wouldn't want to use it for more than a few days just to get your work done until you have the time to get a new wheel, but to Ivan, the steering wheel is now a steering wrench and works perfectly fine.

>>65071060
>>Transnistria soon
They seem to be sieging it successfully.

>>65070379
>>65070381
One is an intentionally designed SAM system firing surface to air missiles from the back of a widely available military all terrain vehicle, designed in peacetime as a way to reuse existing vehicles for a new role and increase the overall SAM capacity.
The other is a logi truck that's been made to fire air to air missiles now being pressed into a SAM role in an active conflict out of desperation.
It's the difference between:
>hey we could make a SAM system that goes on the back of a HMMWV, would mean you don't need to bring around a massive truck with a bunch of setup time and could just roll out somewhere and pop some missiles off when something enters the airspace
and
>oh fuck we need more SAMs, take a bunch of those AAMs, stick them on Oleg's MLRS truck, and get them out there

>>65070371
A soviet/russian term which describes a uniquely local approach of using unorthodox innovation to creatively solve a complex issue. Usually used as juxtaposing the russian mindset vs that of a western man: hurr-durr they are dumb there, will have to make a complex and expensive thing, we'll cope with something simple and cheap instead and thus win. "Hurr-durr NASA spent millions inventing a pen capable of writing in space, russians used a pencil" (which is a typical BS factoid btw). Basically glorified nigger rigging, often with no actual productive result. Some relevant examples:
- initial russian cope cages or 2022, hurr-durr will protect our tank from top-down attack ATGMs;
- putting tires on wings of planes, hurr-durr will fuck up AI which analyzes satellite photos;
- putting a bucket of burning oil at the end of a tank's gun, hurr-durr IR tracking will cause the missile to miss the body of the tank;

>>65072827
>AMRAAMs and AIM-9s are surface to air missiles

File: 20250714army8551856_B6238.jpg (51.5 KB)

51.5 KB JPG

>>65072827
Nah there's actually nothing wrong with re-purposing AAMs as SAMs. Won't match the performance of a proper SAM interceptor but it's a big step up from just sticking stingers on things and allows more flexible use of available inventory. There's a reason a bunch of countries either have adopted or are in the process of adopting NASAMS.

The execution may well be flawed, I'd be shocked if it wasn't when we're talking about Russia, but the basic concept is perfectly fine. Ukraine's been getting a lot of mileage out of NSAMS because it allows them to use a much wider range of donated equipment. Not everyone has a bunch of Patriot interceptors lying around but a lot more places can spare some AIM-9s, AMRAAMs or in some cases even Sparrows and Sea Sparrows.

>>65070363
So how long before we get a video from Ukraine of them sending a drone into it along with some nice fireworks?

File: 1756997548482891.png (566.7 KB)

566.7 KB PNG

Is this the bread for posting the horrors of smegmalka?
>>65076185
Something tells me this niggerrig is meant to cover poccnr's lackluster anti-drone defence capabilities and won't be moved anywhere near the frontline, but who knows?

File: super-hornet-quad-aim-174.jpg (87.4 KB)

87.4 KB JPG

>>65072945
Repurposing SAMs as AAMs is the real gopnic shit

>>65070371
Zigger rigging.

>>65070371
Did nobody understand the joke lmao?

>>65070457
>doesn't change the missiles centre of pressure, centre of gravity or mass
I think you might be onto something here.

>>65076347
>Did nobody understand the joke lmao?
I think nobody even noticed it, you need more message than just a single letter misspelling, it's not enough to let us know it's deliberate, or for that matter, not enough for our brains to reliably consider significant enough to override pattern recognition and categorise it as a word distinct from cмeкaлкa.
I only just now noticed what op wrote.

>>65070371
smekalka is a word that means something like cleverness, making do with little life-hacks, jerry rigging and such. Doing more with less.
The word has entered western consciousness through the Ukrainian war, when Russians used improvised measures in attempts to counter drones, man-portable missiles and such, and has become a frequent point of ridicule because of the ridiculousness and ineffectiveness of some of these measures

>>65070379
We have 20+ year old Aim120 Bs out the ass for wasting on retarded shit like NASMAS. Russia does not have r77s out the ass. If they’re doing this, it’s cause they’re running out of engagement radars, not SARH SAMs

>>65070396
>>65070409
Nonsense
You can get AAMs that have decent ground SAM like ranges as they are designed to be fired at BVR and thus have decent propellant load as well as decent sustainment ranges.
They will do as well as any SAM with a similar propellant load, and there are plenty of Russian medium range SAMS it can replace.
They are basically the same as any normal SAM in practicality, but it does make me chuckle that the Russian airforce has to resort to it as their ASMs are running low.

>>65076316
>my ordinance costs more than your jet

>>65070363
The issue isn't entirely that it's A2A missiles haphazardly slapped onto the back of a truck. It's that we'll see one, maybe two of these. Total. If they rolled a thousand of these out it would still be shitty African tier attempts at AA technicals but at least there'd be a lot of them. The truth is their insistence on sticking to the bit of assault garden sheds does make them require more drones to kill and if they do it to all of them it gains them just a few more meters before it dies. But this? This reeks of internal propaganda for the "what air defense doing" crowd. I could be wrong, some siloviki could own a firm that's doing this and buying him a lovely new yacht, but I kinda doubt it.

>>65070371
>smelkaka
Smelkaka? I hardly know her.

>>65070371
>smelkaka
Smelkaka? I hardly know her!

>>65070371
Zigrigging

>>65076316
>USAF needs a new long range missile
>Sets up a secure access program and spends a decade designing one, barely in production
>USN needs one
>Hey hand me an SM-6 and that role of duct tape, I'm gonna 'integrate' it with this superbug

>>65070371
Actually looks like a pretty beegkaka to me.

File: sneed launcher.jpg (137.6 KB)

137.6 KB JPG

>>65076396
Stuff like those launchers for the drones are usually air powered I I think, but it'll hurl a big fat old sneed drone it'll throw a missile

>>65079047
Anon, I'm going to say this as kindly as I can and give you the opportunity to teach yourself something.... look at the sizes and weights of SAM missiles and then compare them to the size and weight of AAMs.
Consider the fact that a BVR AAM is hopefully being fired from something that's very high going very fast.

>>65078902
knack

>>65072945
>but it's a big step up from just sticking stingers on things
Isn't the 'new' M-SHORAD for the USA just a Stryker with a gorillion Stingers? The Sergeant Stout? In fact, pretty sure they 'upgraded' it last year to have MORE Stingers by removing the Longbow Hellfire.

>>65079047
Anon, they're designed to fire from an aircraft in thinner air and ideally already moving fast, and at a similar altitude to its target. An AAM firing from 0/0 alt/airspeed is basically worst case scenario for its performance, it's precisely why missiles for the role tend to be bigger. The reason that >>65076316 works as a slapdash goofy range overmatch missile is because you're taking a missile already designed to perform well from that disadvantaged 0/0 launch. If you fire it already going high and fast, it'll go way further again.

>>65079923
In fairness to aim260, they’re basically trying to get aim176 performance out of an aim120ish sized package. Fitting in stealth bays is non-negotiable. It’s still dragged on way too long, but there’s some nuance

>>65080049
Oh the AIM-260 is solving a different problem even if it's filling the same doctrinal void, yeah. The USN's going to be using them too for the reasons you mentioned. It's just very funny to me that the USAF went with the 'proper' solution while the USN have the kludged but expedient one possible.