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Everyone says get a Ruger or a Browning to learn because that's just how it is but I'm the kind of annoying retard who wants to know why. Is there a reason to spend an extra $300 on one of these meme guns to learn to shoot when you can get a Walther or a Glock for quite a bit less? I would think it's better to have something that physically feels like and has the approximate dimensions of the gun you're eventually going to get, no? And I've heard the trigger suck and they're not even that accurate so any advantage over a plastic gun is unclear.

And btw yes I don't have a gun, wow you busted me, I am utterly humiliated now, my reputation is permanently destroyed how will I ever be able to emigrate to America and marry Pamela Anderson.
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>>65070612
There's a handgun general. Why not post there?
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>>65070615
I tried the general and everyone is having a tantrum that I'm asking at all, so might as well just use this one, bumpo.
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You learn good shooting habits with a .22 cause you can shoot a lot and it's low recoil. Those are just the best .22 pistols.
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>>65070697
I'm not questioning the advantages of 22 LR, I'm questioning the advantage of a $700 buck mark that was invented in 1946, vs a $250 P22 that seems to be basically a P99 that shoots cheaper ammo
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>>65070612
ps://palmettostatearmory.com/ruger-mark-iv-22-45-22-lr-rimfire-pistol-40107.html
>wants to learn
>looking at the competition model
Get the basic if you are buying your first and learning.
Form factor really isn't that big of deal and honestly when your collection grows you may regret having a "lite" version of a gun you later buy in 9mm.
>why do I have this .22lr when I have the 9mm?
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>>65070688
>everyone is having a tantrum that I'm asking at all,
Holy shit, retard. You didn't even bother asking there first.
>>65070697
>You learn good shooting habits with a .22 cause you can shoot a lot and it's low recoil.
^This, and NO you don't have to get one first. It really depends on the type of shooting you want to learn/do. Bullseye? Get a .22 first. USPSA? Centerifire.
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>>65070688
>having a tantrum
WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING, JUST BUY WHAT YOU'RE TOLD! FUCKING NEWBIES!
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>>65070710
Yes but when I tried to atone for my sin of making a thread that isn't about USA Potassium vs Every Other Cuntry Inferior Potassium it didn't work, so my reddit karma is already in the toilet, so why try to redeem myself now? I'm a huge faggot please look at me.

I have no idea what kind of shooting I want to do, but probably not going to be that Turkish olympic meme guy if that's what you mean. I watched an indian shooting coach video where he said you need to practice 40 hours a week to even be at a national level and I don't have time for that with all my 4chan thread making obligations
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>>65070716
You make a compelling argument but have you considered that I can post a series of loaded questions to get the internet to validate my preconceived idea of what I really want when the first recommendation doesn't seem adequately cool or unique enough?
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>>65070612
the ruger and browning are made of superior materials and their triggers and accuracy are better
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IMHO shooting a .22 makes perfect sense for beginners, but honestly there's no reason to limit yourself to Mk series or a Buckmark these days. That advice is decades old, and it comes from a time when there were few reliable .22 semis out there, and most of them were tiny pocket pistols that were challenging for a beginner to shoot. The Rugers and the Buckmark were (and still are) accurate, reliable, full-size pistols that are well suited to target shooting. IMHO there's nothing wrong with some other .22 like a Glock or a Walther for learning. Personally I think that the Ruger is a better gun for target shooting, no question it is more accurate, so I'd be willing to pay the extra for one but that's easy for me to say because I can afford it. The real point is that .22LR = cheap ammo = more shooting, and that with its low recoil you're less likely to develop bad habits. That applies to any .22 that's not an unreliable piece of junk or some niche pistol that's difficult to shoot. If you want a Glock or a revolver or whatever then that's just fine. I would look for something that's 'full size' or at least close to it. Tiny little pocket pistols are good for concealment but are a bitch to learn on.

The advice about "get a shotgun for HD" is similarly dated. It came from a time when semi-auto rifles were rare and expensive while today ARs and the like are widely available and economical.
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You sound really insecure. Buy whatever .22 you can get used for like $200 and go practice. Anything is better than wasting your time trying to shield your bruised ego with Borat references on 4chinz.
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>>65070706
I've found that any .22 pistols with a full slide is generally pretty picky. One thing noguns don't understand is the variance between brands of .22 ammo and how cheap stuff like thunderbolts will barely cycle a repeater without jamming every few rounds. Buckmarks and Rugers are known for eating anything you put in them and being accurate on top cause of the fixed barrel. So you not only get a nice practice pistol, but it can be a good target pistol as you improve. You'll never touch that 22 Glock after you start shooting the 9mm.
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>>65070721
>not going to be that Turkish olympic meme guy if that's what you mean. I watched an indian shooting coach video where he said you need to practice 40 hours a week to even be at a national level
That's Bullseye shooting. You are watching a Bullseye shooter give advice on bullseye shooting and wondering why they are telling you to do Bullseye stuff.

USPSA is putting two shots into multiple cardboard target arrays while moving (walking) as fast as you can through a course of fire.
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>>65070741
Cost is a concern otherwise I wouldn't even be considering a 22 but between 12 cents a round for the "good stuff" or 7 cents a round for the crap I don't think the good stuff is going to send me to the homeless shelter. But you're saying they are actually more accurate than a G44 or a P22 like in a way that I will appreciate even when I have a real gun (oh no he said 22 isn't a real gun someone send jaredAF after him!)
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>>65070744
>or a P22
nta but the p22 trigger is mushy and mine didn't work half the time double action (it would fall to half cock). the slide is also made of garbage metal and it broke. I will say that it did feel nice in the hand, albeit small.
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>>65070744
They're way more accurate, it's a target pistol vs a clone of a defensive handgun. Once you get the G19 the G44 will feel like a cheap toy. I mean the slide is mostly plastic. Ruger and buckmarks are steel frame (with poly frame options) and a fixed barrel. It's a proper purpose built firearm not a cheap imitation of a different gun.
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>>65070615
>Unironically telling people to go to /hg/ for handgun info
Retard or shitposter, call it.
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>>65070612
>Everyone says get a Ruger or a Browning to learn
I've never heard anyone say this in my life. It also sounds like you conflating manufacturer with caliber? Are you saying you should get a .22 before getting a 9mm? All of the manufacturers you mentioned make guns in both those calibers and more. If you want to learn on a .22 then get whatever one you actually like. If you like your gun you'll be more inclined to actually train with it and get good. The Taurus TX22 is the best modern semi auto t
now imo. Great gun at a phenomenal price (also the only Taurus worth buying so don't let it fool you into buying a 9mm from them later).

Having said all that, I think training with a .22 first before getting into a real caliber is gay baby shit. But you do you. It might make more sense if you're just not committed to spending more initially. If that's the deciding factor, then fair enough.
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>>65070764
Was the slide bottoming out against the compensator or how did you do that?
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>>65070818
>t. flinchy zoom zoom with no land that shoots less than 100rds a month
Disregarded
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>>65070825
no, that shitty "compensator" never stayed in place anyway and loved to walk forward. it just decided it no longer wanted to live
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>>65070706
P22 is very picky about ammo and less forgiving about bad shooting habits.
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You're all sick people.
I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.
I put a curse upon you all.
Fuck ya
mudda
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>>65070837
Eat shit thirdie.
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>>65070612
22lr used to be pennies to shoot. a small amount of pennies even. that's the biggest reason.
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>>65070706
>p22
Cologne proofed umarex/rohm pot metal thing calling itself "walther".
No reason to buy this garbage when there's so many better options on the market today.
No reason to buy non-ulm walther period
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>>65071236
I've been talked out of a P22 based on this thread but for future reference how do you know what's an ulm walther?
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>>65071247
Proofmarks
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>>65071255
Great, another thing to be neurotic about. It looks like they moved production to the US at some point? Are the other "good" 9mms like this?
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>>65070615
generals are cancer, a thread about firearms is much better than the usual shitflinging that has rooted on /k/ in the last few years.
>>65070612
>I would think it's better to have something that physically feels like and has the approximate dimensions of the gun you're eventually going to get, no?
No, it doesn't really matter in the end. The fundamentals are fundamentals, they'll stick with you no matter what you'll end up shooting with afterward, and a ruger/browning are good firearms to learn on. I've learned to shoot pistols with a Beretta Neos and then had no problem when I got my first wheelgat and my g19.
>And I've heard the trigger suck and they're not even that accurate so any advantage over a plastic gun is unclear.
That's just bullshit. Stock trigger on a ruger mk3 and 4 are better than the one on a glock, they can be improved with spare ones, but the stock one is fine. I'm no glock trigger hater, but if you're just starting then the ruger (or any other brand generally) is a better fit.
You don't need to buy a brand new gun either, a used mk2 or mk3 is often found for cheap due to retards thinking it's too hard to disassemble.
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>>65070612
>meme guns
Anon, a revolver chambered in .500 Bushwhacker is a meme gun; a .22 is not a meme gun, and most people who bought one end up keeping it.
>And I've heard the trigger suck and they're not even that accurate
Wrong on both accounts. A Ruger Mk III or Mk IV has a better trigger and is more accurate than a Glock.
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>>65070612
Learning on a .22 is about building safe firearm habits, and learning the basics of loading, aiming, shooting, unloading, safe handling, etc. The .22 doesnt have to mimick a Glock or something, that isn't really the point.
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>>65071282
They're split among model lines, you need not fish for proofs. They don't make the same model in two places. Most of the .22s and .380s are Umarex, all of the 9mms and some .380s are Walther.

What other 9mms?
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>>65071684
This is generally correct but the CCP is made in Arnsberg with the corresponding Cologne proofmark.
Not sure if the only exception but it's enough that you need to be sure.
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Could always get a conversion kit for your 92
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>>65070612
You can go cheaper with something like a S&W 22A target pistol to get the hang of basic pistol marksmanship and shooting fundamentals but you should know that a lot of cheaper 22lr pistols need to be shot with standard velocity ammo bc high velocity will crack the frames. I haven’t shot a Taurus TX .22lr pistol but I read good things about them, it’s probably going to be my next buy but for brrrrrrt FRT reasons.
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>>65070706
The P22 is a poor quality piece of shit. The slide is zinc-alloy and prone to cracking. I briefly had one and the safety would engage randomly while firing.
The trigger on the buckmark and Ruger attention bad, definitely better than 90% of striker fired duty pistols.
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>>65070706
all the replica 22lrs suck dick. they break slides cause of substandard construction, they arent as tolerant of fouling and will jam up more. they might require special ammo like high velocity to work.
a mk will happilly go through a 555 box with no issues. a 1911 will start choking around 300.
its the replicas fullsize slide vs the small steel bolt/half slide of a ruger or buckmark. thats what causes the issues. it can only have so much mass but it has to look like the real thing. so the slides mare of lightweight shit like aluminum zamak or zinc. metal thats not good at being a slide.
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>>65070612
>>Everyone says get a Ruger or a Browning to learn because that's just how it is
Literally no one says this.
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>>65071247
NTA, but a good general rule to adopt is that if a gun looks like it belongs in a futuristic 3DFPS then it's probably a piece of shit IRL. The few exceptions that are actually good are easy to identify because they're unobtanium, like say the Laugo Alien. The Walther .22 is obviously designed for looks, not function. That ought to be obvious given the price and the appearance.
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>>65070706
.22s are eternal, do you want a nice .22 to spend eternity with or a shit one that probably won't even last that long?
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>>65071864
Steyr AUG, FS2000, CX4, P90, Hellion/VHS? In fact other than most Kel Tecs I can't think of a lot of futuristic looking guns that are just straight up crap, can you give an example? Also the Walther is meant to look just like the P99 which was a decent gun by all accounts.
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>oh um well I need a .22, no?
>and I need the most accurate one in the world, no?
>and it has to look and feel exactly the same as the centerfire pistol I don't have yet, no?
Why does everyone want to minmax? It's a fucking .22 pistol. Just buy one that's cheap and generally works.
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>>65072029
I'm just tired of buying shit that I have no use for 12 months later. My home is littered with that kind of shit. Every 5 years or so I ragequit and toss thousands of dollars of garbage that I didn't need, but I thought I needed. It feels incredibly wasteful and wrong. So I'm trying to be a little more judicious with what I buy.
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>>65072029
>Just buy one that's cheap and generally works.
those dont exist
in before muh taurus.or but muh potmetal wrangler
a generic 9mm is cheaper than a real 22lr pistol.
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>>65070612
>Everyone says get a Ruger or a Browning to learn because that's just how it is
Who the fuck says that lmao. The gold standard advice for starting shooters is "get a cheap bolt-action rifle in .22LR" because the cost of ammo is $0.05/shot, good rifles can be had for like $150 and they're about as universally legal as firearms get. Even in the yurostani caliphates you can get your hands on one with (relatively) little fuss.

>but I'm the kind of annoying retard
I can tell.

>who wants to know why. Is there a reason to spend an extra $300 on one of these meme guns to learn to shoot when you can get a Walther or a Glock for quite a bit less?
Yes. .22lr is dirt cheap and the "meme guns" have excellent ergonomics and triggers. This means that during practice you're developing your own skills and not fighting the gun.

>when you can get a Walther or a Glock for quite a bit less?
Yeah - those have worse triggers, worse ergonomics, worse accuracy and worse reliability. Those guns exist for people who are too poor to shoot the centerfire versions of those pistols and people who want to save money by training with .22 approximations of their carry guns.

>I would think it's better to have something that physically feels like and has the approximate dimensions of the gun you're eventually going to get, no?
Not when you're learning, no.

>And I've heard the trigger suck and they're not even that accurate so any advantage over a plastic gun is unclear.
Nigger what? Buckmarks and Mark IVs are known for being extremely accurate and having excellent triggers as well as being reliable with every flavor of .22LR. I can't speak to the Ruger personally but Buckmarks perform as-advertised.

>>65072047
>So I'm trying to be a little more judicious with what I buy.
You can get a .22 rifle, necessary accessories (bore snake, earplugs, etc.) and hundreds of rounds of ammo for <$300 OTD.
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>>65072076
What attracted me about the Walther in particular was that everything I have read has said that Walthers have surprisingly good triggers, perhaps the best in their class. Not sure where I picked that up but I saw it enough times to take it seriously. Maybe that only applies to their centerfire pistols. At least, I assume they weren't talking about the WA2000.
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>>65072047
>So I'm trying to be a little more judicious with what I buy.
A .22 plinker is probably what ends up seeing the most use out of the average civilian arsenal, so it makes sense to get a good quality one that won't be a jamomatic pain in the ass. The skills you train on a ruger or any other non-shit .22 will apply just as well to any big boy handgun you like.
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>>65070612
Nah they are just fun little guns to shoot. I promise you'll put 200-300 rounds away at the range for the same price as 25-50 .45 AARP and this gun is more fun and easier to shoot.
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>>65070615
>unironically telling people to go a general in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty six
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>>65070727
If you won't listen, just buy what you want, dipshit.
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>>65072480
Thanks for the validation. I was thinking of getting one of those Baretta U-22s.
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I've only shot a .22 once and it was incredibly gay and I was bored of it within five rounds. To me it's not even worth the time it takes to fill out the 4473, if I could buy one at walmart for $89.99 maybe.
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>>65070612
My mark III will eat anything, even thunderbolt, and just keep putting holes exactly where I want them. When you're training your marksmanship fundamentals, not only is it great to use a .22 for the low recoil and cost, but those Ruger pistols have great (target)triggers out of the box and are safe to dryfire. They'll last you a life time, and the fundamentals you can practice with them will transfer to any other pistol or revolver you may want to get later on down the line.
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>>65070612
Ruger Mark IVs are generally pretty reliable handguns.
Although I am excited to try out my TX-22 Toro when it arrives because I could use a more "normal" kind of .22 Handgun
My only issue with the Mark IV is the grips because they get uncomfortable after a while
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>>65070612
There’s not a wrong answer, get what you want after you’ve spent plenty of time fingerfucking the gun in the store and renting it on the range if possible (take a gun safety/ccw class if you can btw)
I for one love my Ruger mark IV and shoot it frequently. .22 is relatively cheap but if you want the confidence of carry then prioritize your ownership and practice where needed.
I don’t think you can go wrong as long as you focus on shooting as a skill to be applied accordingly
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>>65072575
Nobody knows how to dry up a women's pussy like this guy over here. Subject matter expert.
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It's not required to get one right away, but even if you don't think so right now, you're going to want a .22 pistol eventually so it's not a bad idea to get one sooner than later. But it's not some rule to get a .22 first. I started on a .40 and .45, and my biggest challenge was getting my little boy hands around the grip of a Glock 21, not flinching.
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>>65070612
Get pic related gun, Anon. The man with 1 gun knows how to use it.
>Pamela Anderson?
If you have a time machine, why a gun?
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>>65072625
Dry pussy or lubed pistol?
Checkmate.
>NTP, yeah you know me.
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>>65072625
Imagine caring about what women think
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>>65072625
I hope the CEO of women sees this bro
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>>65072629
Hey I have that lighter. Based on that alone, I think I'll get the black gun in your pic. What's the ref #?
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>>65070706
My .22 ruger mk IV was $350, where are you getting $700?
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>>65070612
Buy an ar-7.
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>>65073579
I see some weird ones with like, rubber penis-shaped grips and dildo adapters on the barrel and rainbow anodized finishes, but just a normal ass gun? Over $700.
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>>65073676
Retard
Go look at a Standard, not a high end Hunter
https://palmettostatearmory.com/ruger-mark-iv-standard-22-lr-pistol-black-40105.html
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>>65073680
That's still a $500 gun though. Seems like they get cheaper the more fucked up looking they are.
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>>65073685
>$500 is too much
Stop being poor
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>>65073686
If I'm spending $500 anyway, I'd rather spend $700 on something that doesn't look like shit
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>>65073688
Ok you do you.
Buy once cry once.
Personally I love my hunter, it's a beautiful gun
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>>65073676
>>65073685
I'm assuming you live in the US. Go to any pawn shop that sells firearms, and you'll likely find a used .22 target pistol. It might be a Browning Buckmark, a Ruger Mk3 or Mk4, a S&W Victory, a Colt Woodsman, etc. You can find one for less than that price.
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>>65071741
Interesting. Do those have the same problem of jamming and breaking like the other "replicas" or is there something different about it because it's a conversion?
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>>65070612
If you actually asked in /hg/ about a good 22 pistol that's cheaper than the proven classic, there are folks who would happily tell you that the TX22 is the best option that's less expensive than a Ruger/Buckmark.

The extra $300 gets you a pistol that will be overall a bit nicer and will probably last longer, but Burt shoots more than you and has been putting the TX22 through it's paces.

Don't get some fake Walther garbage. It will only frustrate you.
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>>65074395
Thanks. It looks like a murder weapon you'd find in a garbage can in a park somewhere, but the reddit says it's good so maybe I can get over that. It's on my short list. The steel and wood meme is getting to me though. Maybe I'll pay the retard tax for something that looks old and therefore good.
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>>65074395
Not him but I bought the TX-22 and I'm just waiting for it to get to my FFL.
That thing looks like a lot of fun with that magazine capacity
22 rounds is a lot more fun than 10.
And I am seriously considering a suppresor
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Every .22 pistol I have ever spent time with has been an annoyance.
My TX22 needed two warranty barrel replacements to stop keyholing with every single round. I hear they have since fixed that.
My Mk. IV consistently fails to eject/extract and will probably be fixed with a new extractor.
LCP II fails to feed frequently with the magazines it came with but you can play mix and match to find ones it likes.
~1950's K-22 has tight chambers and needs to be swabbed every ~100 rounds or the ejector gets stuck. The ejector rod also unscrews itself over time. Unbeatable trigger though.
Old buckmark is fine actually but it has a Weaver rail so mounting newer optics is a pain.

Conversely I have never once been disappointed with a .22 rifle.
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>>65072047
>tired of buying shit that I have no use for 12 months later
Everyone has use for a .22 pistol.
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>>65073685

>rail on top

Absolutely sours the whole look tbqhwyf
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>>65070706
>P22
just get tx22, which is basically a better glock 44.
Then when you will start getting bored of it, print a super disconnector.
Profit!
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>>65072625
>pin-ups in the garage
just guy stuff
>figs at the battle station
ick
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>>65075561
figs are the modern man's pin ups
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>>65072047
>no use for a .22 pistol
Dumbest shit ever said by anybody at any time.
GTFO, kid
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>>65076569
There are plenty of 22lr shitpile pistols that are miserable to own and shoot. Not in a painful this gun hurts way but in i cant make it a whole mag without a jam fuck this shit.
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>>65076569
>(angry words), kid
I didn't know people posted this post format without any intended humor

>>65076597
I watched the Paul Harrell TX22 video thanks to all the shilling and my takeaway is that 22 LR as a rule is basically the frat hazing ritual you go through before graduating to an actual gun that doesn't suck. Like several rounds simply failed to fire, and that was on his "THIS gun WILL BE RETAINED" highly recommended piece?

And apparently it's normal to expect that dud rounds will get lodged in the barrel sometimes and you have to just have a gut feel for detecting it, or you put up with the gun exploding? I assume that's not normal for most guns, right? Am I going to need to constantly worry that every gun is going to blow up in my face every few hundred rounds?
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>>65074842
It's nice, though. I have a micro red dot on a picatinny mount that I often switch around on my various .22s.
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>>65076620
>And apparently it's normal to expect that dud rounds will get lodged in the barrel sometimes and you have to just have a gut feel for detecting it, or you put up with the gun exploding? I assume that's not normal for most guns, right? Am I going to need to constantly worry that every gun is going to blow up in my face every few hundred rounds?
Yeah I dont own a .22lr but like a dozen other guns, they're scary until you just get desensitized to them and acknowledge its a hobby where you might lose a finger or an eye or whatever the cost of the gun is. I personally havent lost a gun yet but have had rounds get stuck in the chamber unknowingly on a couple guns without bad results, my dad blew up a S&W 686 L frame somehow beyond repair back when I was a kid which he attributed to a superstition regarding his grandfather killing himself with the same gun at the same time. Otherwise they're pretty sturdy.
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>>65076770
Guess I won't be getting that bullpup then
Also am I to understand you have a suicide gun in the family just being used like it's no big deal?
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>>65076778
I should have clarified that they were different guns just the same model, great grandfather's toys are lost to time somewhere. Dad's gun just broke at the same time by coincidence and became a family superstition. Not to dissuade you from your purchase because again I never have had a catastrophic failure on my own shooting normal guns from normal factory ammo of any kind and have had no injuries.
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>>65070612
Buy whatever firearm you want. None are difficult to use.
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>ask for advice
>argue with it, take it to ad hominem basically immediately
>get told off
>find new people and ask them for advice
>argue with that, too....

your life is an endless cycle of confusing misery.
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>>65070612
It's one of many good guns. You won't like every good gun but not every gun you don't like is bad.
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>>65076778
>>65076791
>MFW you never inherit the family suicide gun
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>>65070612
just get a used ruger standard. Cabelas has like 10 of them for sale for $300. Its one of the best .22 target pistols you can get for the money.
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>>65076620
>Like several rounds simply failed to fire
.22lr is a rimfire round. That means instead of having a button primer the priming compound is poured into the bottom of the case and the case is spun to distribute it. .22lr is pretty much the only rimfire cartridge still in circulation since it's cheap and easy to shoot and everyone and their mom in the industry has nailed down how to churn it out in huge quantities.

You can imagine that this process has consistency issues when you get into the bargain bin plinking ammo people buy for 5c a round but all you have to do is cycle the gun and get a fresh round in the chamber. For the price difference it's usually worth some minor hassle since it's often 1/3rd the price of even bargain bin 9mm.
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>>65078936
But does that mean I have to be 100% certain that every bullet punched a unique hole for each trigger pull and I have to count perfectly for hundreds of shots and I can't have a single brain fart where I lost count or there were two bullets in one hole and if I lose track I have to disassemble the gun and check for a bullet stuck in the barrel? That seems like it would take the fun out of the whole thing if momentarily losing count after a couple dozen rounds could mean shards of hot metal punching holes in my face.

I don't recall what ammo Harrell used for the test but he doesn't seem like the type to use bottom of the barrel stuff.
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>>65079039
I've never had a .22 fail to exit the barrel, the cheap ones just don't always fire. If it doesn't go bang literally all you do is chamber a new one.
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>>65079039
i think you are too autistic to be around firearms
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>>65076597
>changes the subject
>too stupid to know
When you read advocacy for trashfire where it isn't, you really need therapy, sport.
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>>65076620
>(angry words)
This is how you give away your age, education, and economic class, fuckwit.
>I didn't know people posted here without any humor
Okay, newfag. Fuckoff to /b/
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>>65079115
Not every gun is worth owning the sooner you learn that the better. You dont need something to fill every category. Some people have genuinly no use for a 22lr. For example if their range time is limited but the ammo budget isnt. If you need to get good with your carry gun you are going to shoot the carry and not a 22.
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>>65070615
>>65070612
Get a pistol with a safety and not a 2 stage trigger. Grip safeties are sometimes acceptable but otherwise, a real safety, and not a fucking 2 stage trigger.
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>>65079118
Is this one of those novelty personas that I'll learn to recognize if I hang out here enough? Everything is anger dialed up to 10 all the time? Like capslock guy who posts on some boards? I suppose I'll learn to spot all the different clowns eventually

>>65079123
Yeah not really planning a "carry gun" I just want to be good at shooting because of toxic masculinity or some shit. I mean every man should know how to handle his liquor, use a stick shift car, handle weapons, sharpen his own knives, and bring a woman to orgasm without kissing her pussy or any of that gay shit, right? Not necessarily at the same time, mind you
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>>65079039
>I have to be 100% certain that every bullet punched a unique hole for each trigger pull
This is true of every gun. If it goes bang but nothing happens on the target side then the next bang is going to damage it.
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>>65079328
So how are things like FRTs or (fully registered and tax stamp paid) full auto sears not just a quick ticket to a destroyed gun?
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>>65079221
You have no idea what you're talking about. Why are you posting with authority as if you possess even peripheral knowledge on the subject of handguns? There has never been invented a pistol that doesn't have a "two stage trigger." It's called takeup you fucking tourist and it's there for a reason.
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>>65079039
you are imagining a different kind of malfunction than what the other anons are talking about
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>>65070612
I've got a Ruger MkIII Target I bought in 2006. I've been shooting once a month since for my club's Rimfire silhouette match, which is 30 rounds per match in addition to plinking, target shooting, and some varmint hunting. It probably has close to 10,000 rounds through it at this point. It eats just about any ammo I feed it and i think I clean it every couple of years. I like that it's a full sized gun made of steel, so it's essentially recoilless. It's basically a twenty year old gun with thousands of rounds through it that still runs almost flawlessly.
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>>65074379
Replicas are repurposed airsoft. I don't know about! the Beretta, but I have a Kimber conversion for my 1911. It has an aluminum slide and needs high velocity ammo to run properly.
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>>65073676
thats not a buckmark
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>>65079039
The other anons are talking about a failure to fire, where the gun goes click but doesn't go bang. If that happens you just keep it pointed down range for a few seconds to make sure it's not a hangfire, then rack in another round and go about your day, no biggie, happens with all kinds of cheap ammo. You're worried about a squib load, where a round goes off but it's all fucky so it gets stuck in the barrel. Those are quite rare and come with low sound/recoil and a lot of smoke out of the chamber that makes it pretty obvious something's up.
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>>65079227
It's too bad you identify everything in the world as hostile. Being raised by an abusively single mother obviously destroyed any chance you ever had of not immediately going to the supermarket to buy tampons for any woman to orders you to do it.
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>>65079123
When you read shit that isn't there, you're clinically delusional, nutcase. Your pimple-faced single-mom raised apartment dweller attempts at gaslighting aren't even cute. They're embarrassing.
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.22 is low recoil and cheapish. You don't start with a centerfire that could make you develop a flinch.
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>>65079549
Harrell's TX22 video has him messing around with a number of "replicas" e.g the M&P22 and the M922 and he seems to consider them acceptable products but at this point I've been memed pretty hard on the purpose-built 22 thing and I'm not sure I'd consider those barring an extremely compelling reason in favor. Maybe I'll even get an older antique like a MkIII >>65079527 or a S&W 41

>>65079826
Squib load, thanks. Yeah that just seems like a bad deal all around

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>>65079853
Why are you like this
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this is literally the best gun ive ever bought
best quality
best shooting feel
can shoot with minimal earpro in my backyard without alerting anyone
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>>65080165
>why are you like this
Primarily due to having actual testosterone, a good job and a wife who sucks my cock on command. I realize all of those things are foreign to most newfags who come in here thinking 4chan is fucking reddit. Put on your bigboy pants if you're going to hang around here, sporto, or your sensitive zoomer feelings are going to be constantly hurt.
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>>65080860
So it's like a mashup of forklift driver/USMC boomerposter memes and gorilla warfare memes, got it
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>>65080883
>gasper
Getting brutally mogged every day is no way to go through life, son.

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