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Which post-war superprop was the best?
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>>65072245
in terms of pure sex, retardation, and lack of funding, the frogs always take the win
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>>65072245
My beloved.
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>>65072431
nah
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by 'what if the XT40 hadn't been such an unmitigated 1st-gen turboprop catastrophe' it's this
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>>65072622
Still wild to me that P-51s and corsairs kept getting work into Korea but the US still trashed them by the hundreds of thousands instead of selling them off. Could have given every friendly third world country fleets of hundreds of planes.
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>>65072245
yeah, gonna go with Sea Fury too
>>65073101
>Could have given every friendly third world country fleets of hundreds of planes
3rd world countries can't afford to operate "hundreds" of them, and very quickly wanted to switch to jets
the RNZAF for example got a squadron or two of Mustangs, but these always competed with the Tempests, and before the decade was out they got Gloster Meteors and the jet age was due
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She counts
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>>65073240
>3rd world countries can't afford to operate "hundreds" of them, and very quickly wanted to switch to jets
it really depends on what for. If you're a really poor but really big country you need a lot of coverage for relatively low intensity tasks, say, Algeria, one of the biggest countries on earth, is mostly empty but still has some low to mid intensity warfare to prepare for on their border with Morocco or Chad, so bigger fleets of less capable planes to just chuck bombs on a tactical capacity makes more sense than big bombers or faster jets.
the real reason a lot of those planes were scrapped is because the airframes weren't actually built to last and intensive use during the war wore a lot of them completely out.
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>>65073260
yeah, but which countries had that small set of requirements?
>Algeria
got Mig-15s when they first set up, post-independence of course
>Brazil
got Meteors by 1952, operating mainly P-47s before then iinm
>Egypt
got Meteors before the decade was out, and then Mig-15s by 1955
of course, it might be said that prop fighters only had a lifespan of about 5 years at most, IINM
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>>65073304
yes
and cost underpins everything
small countries couldn't afford to operate "hundreds" of prop fighters, and bigger countries like Brazil and Egypt were eyeing jets and didn't want to shell out for props
especially since even the earliest jets showed massive advantages over props
a Tempest doesn't come close to touching a Meteor, for example
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>>65073327
>real lack of pilots
yeah that goes in the "affordability" section as well
those countries which do have the cash have always paid for their brightest to go to military academies in the West, and learn from the best there how to be pilots
if I were the Foreign Office, or SecState, I would tell them to fuck off, or charge them the price of a brand new fighter jet programme
>oh you want to train your pilots on my F-5? sure. the cost will be [my projected cost for developing the F-18]
but it seems few faggots past WW2 can properly nation-build nowadays
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>>65073705
They look shitty in comparison to a properly proportioned fighter aircraft.
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>>65073101
Many of the friendly third world countries that got US military aid became not friendly, either through their own actions or the US changing its mind
This was a forseen thing and limiting the quality of the aid given was always high on the priority list, and air power more than anything was given out sparingly
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>>65073463
Skyraiders were always my fave at airshows, but it needs a 4360
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>>65075408
i gotchu senpai
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8,000lbs of bombs or 4 torps. I feel like it was partly cancelled because there wouldn't be enough enemy shipping to go after.
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>>65077487
there were several of these TBF / SB2C successor-replacement designs (see AM-1 above) from different companies tested in the 1944-46 timeframe, some of them powered with the R-4360
Due to the changes in USN (getting rid of dedicated dive- and torpedo bombers, for one) carrier air wing force structure, and end of World War II itself, the AD / A-1 wound up as the long term winner
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>>65073306
here is the first Mk 1 flying in June 1945 just prior to war's end
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this and Bearcat not yet posted itt
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brand new P-51H in early 1946
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Northrop F-15A Reporter
same turbosupercharged R-2800-73 engines as P-61C
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>>65072245
Everything in here that isn't Sandy is wrong
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>>65073463
There are these old EOD cartoons that I cant find online but were often framed in EOD shops when I was in and one has two techs inspecting a BLU-82 with one of those standoff fuze extenders. "Well by key ID features its HEAT..."
There is also one that lampoons the infamous incident where someone called to report a bunch of torpedoes in Colorado and the on call tech thought it was a prank call and hung up. (A truck carrying them crashed)
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>>65073240
NZ is not a third world country. These was a several decades long "capability bubble" where WW2 surplus gave legitimately poor countries the ability to field second rate air forces with actual fighters, best example is the central American countries that still had mustangs and corsairs into the 70s and they got air to air kills in the football war. These days they don't have fighters at all.
This was the same time that countries like Australia and Canada had aircraft carriers.
I think a good close to this era would be 2017 when Peru decommissioned the Almirante Grau. There are still WW2 things still in service but they won't result in a massive drop in capability when theyre taken out of service.
The world was awash with surplus after the war but you couldnt always buy it- Israel wasnt able to purchase cheap mustangs and had to settle for the far more expensive S-199. They did get some surplus US planes but these were purchased and transferred secretly.