It's not a paper tiger, is it?

This is the problem with "high / low" procurement, everyone is terrified of having a high shot down and captued so they keep them so far back they can't do the job.

>>65073410
It's obsolete

>>65073419
>This is the problem with "high / low" procurement, everyone is terrified of having a high shot down and captued so they keep them so far back they can't do the job.
It was never a problem for F15.

>>65073439
Because Israel had F-15s and couldn't care less if they were lost.

>>65073419
F-22's have been dropping bombs in the middle east for over a decade now, the problem is the adversary has no planes to shoot at.

>>65073402
It's the jet equivalent of a sniper but it has no cool rival targets to splash.

>>65073410
Well it actually existed long enough for them to complete serial production and everyone else has been trying to catch up for 25 years and counting. I'm gonna say if it is it's the best paper tiger ever built because it generates endless seethe from people that can't match it (and never will in one case) after a solid quarter century of trying.

>>65073532
It's a little like the F-111 in Australian service. They never fired a shot in anger for the RAAF but they acted as an obscene amount of regional overmatch, which factored into decision-making of regional rivals. Sometimes a weapon that deters a fight is better than one that wins it.

>>65073445
Total horseshit.

American F15s cleaned up in Desert Storm, 36 air to air kills, 16 years after they hit IOC and 15 years after FOC. F22 achieved IOC 21 years ago and FOC 19 years ago.

KYS.

>>65073445
israel didn't lose a single f-15 in combat

>>65073541
What's even better is a weapon that the other side pours significant resources into countering and still comes up short.

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>>65073402
It's so good, it scares the opposition to the point their planes stay grounded.

>65073529
You're an abo nigger.

>>65073402
deterrent

>>65073410
No just gets to watch from the cuck chair.

>>65074048
That's hot.

>>65074857
I've seen the chrome raptor, it's fucking sweet.

>>65073410
it quite literally is. It has a shitty radar, no ability to multidomain link, no enhanced SA. An F-35 could eat a whole squadron of them. Every single pilot who did BFM against F-18s with them said they would gladly trade the thrust vectoring for a bit more fuel.

>>65073844
When did you ever use it against a military power with a functioning air force?

>>65073450
It got to do that once to prove it was possible but it was never fully implemented across the fleet.

>>65073532
it hasn't proven itself in any actual combat. It's all empty boasting

>>65073532
it hasn't proven itself in any actual combat. It's all empty boasting

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I have faith that she will down a hostile (otherwise that airliner looking at her all funny is gonna get it!)

>>65074048
Has either the Navy or the Air Force confirmed any shootdowns during this hubub, and if they did did they say what scored that kill?
The Jews posted their Yak-130 kill. So, we know what the Iranians did get aircraft airborne. So, what are the chances that a Raptor scored a kill on one of their CAP stations?

>>65073410
She is the equivalent of that 10/10 turbo Stacy that is a KHV because everyone just assumes she's out of their league.

>>65078746
I can save her...

>>65073439
we're still making f-15s and we stopped making f-22s. they are more expendable.