>>65074757
The ghosts of von Braun and Arthur Allen Dulles run through the blood of Budanov.

>>65074757
>This type of rocket launch was apparently only ever done by the US during the mid-70s
wat? The very picture you posted is operational, last launch was 2021

>>65074757
You know what a space program is great for boot strapping? A ballistic missile program.

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>>65074791
I think the article meant "started during" the mid 70s, but I think these type of launches are intermittent and somewhat unusual for the US despite the countless ALO programs that have come and gone.

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>Ukrainian space program
picrel

jokes aside, these are just spicier ALBMs, not to knock them though, developing their own ALBMs during wartime is certainly an achievement

>>65074757
>rocket family with a range of 500 km
When launched from the ground? Othewise that would be pretty short if it went up 100k already

>>65074781
>"I aimed for the stars, and sometimes hit Moscow."

>>65074883
>Othewise that would be pretty short if it went up 100k alread
nigga is you dense? 100 km is the max altitude, they're launching at 8 km, unless ukrainians have also created the world's first suborbital combat aircraft they ain't launching from 100 km

>>65074831
>somewhat unusual for the US
The only US system for this type of launch is the Pegasus rocket built by Northrop Grumman.
40-something of these rockets have been launched in actual missions, new ones haven't been built for years.
There's only a single one of these rockets left in existence and there are plans to launch it this June.
That's it, they're all gone after that.

>>65074909
Stratolaunch isn't entirely dead yet.

>>65074781
>von Braun
honorary hohol

>>65074905
?
I was asking whether 500 km is the surface launch range because that would be pretty short that reaches a zenith of 100 km. I never said that it got that high before launch, just that it reaches that hight during flight.
Contemporary TBMs with a similar range do it with a zenith of only ~50km.

Ukraine actually had a big aerospace industry pre-invasion so it's not much of a surprise and a lot of it has just become joint companies with other nations. It's believed that North Korea was able to steal a lot of the tech during the chaos of 2014 to develop their ICBM programme.

>This type of rocket launch was apparently only ever done by the US during the mid-70s and no one else has done so outside of Ukraine and the US

At least the Bongs did it in 2021. Things just didn't fly so good.

Now explain to me what the fuck those launches were about because if they hit Russian satellites then it would absolutely be an international shitstorm. My best guess is that they did a demonstration of the capability to deter Russia from targeting satellite providing intelligence to Ukraine - after they had demonstrated their own capability to do so by making a shit-ton of debris that nearly took out the ISS.

>>65075169
>Ukraine actually had a big aerospace industry pre-invasion
Wasn't a good chunk of the Soviet aerospace industry based in Ukraine?

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>>65075180
Yeah.

You even have companies like Skyrora that ended up being set-up by Ukrainians in Europe.

>>65075076
Fairly certain the 500km range is ground-launched.

>>65075196
>Yeah.
I've tried to find a good book or pdf that talks about in some (but not too much) technical detail how much military and aerospace infrastructure Moscow lost in 1991.
I know the main T-80 plant was one.

>>65075196
Imagine finishing the second airframe with Trent 900 engines.

>>65074757
Ukraine having a space agency is like Uganda having a soace agency, they have no rockets (sold what they had to China decades ago), don't make satellites and don't have an astronaut program.

>>65075180
>Wasn't a good chunk of the Soviet aerospace industry based in Ukraine?

Emphasis on past tense.

>>65075180
>Wasn't a good chunk of the Soviet aerospace industry based in Ukraine?
Ukraine basically provided the foundational and institutional base for the Soviet space program. The vast majority of the personnel came from Ukraine and the Ukrainians were also responsible for things like rocket engines, computer programming, figuring out space-docking, flight control systems, etc. And in fact, Ukrainians were being highly utilized in Russia's post-Soviet space program up until 2014-2017. The Ukrainians even proposed at least two separate, yet similar air-launched-to-orbit programs as the US's own programs back during the Cold War, but that never materialized.
>>65075169
Now explain to me what the fuck those launches were about
I think the mystery as to how the fuck Ukraine managed to hit locations within Siberia within the last two years despite not having anything in their inventory to do so is what these launches were about.

OP is confused and thinks getting a high altitude is the same as getting into orbit.

>>65074757
>>65074791
>>65074831
>>65075169
This sounds like it's referring to the US experiment to launch Minuteman out the back of a C-5

>>65075242
>Ukraine basically provided the foundational and institutional base for the Soviet space program. The vast majority of the personnel came from Ukraine and the Ukrainians were also responsible for things like rocket engines, computer programming, figuring out space-docking, flight control systems, etc.

warrime propaganda matters more than fact

>>65075254
he's technically correct, both "space czars" of the soviet union, namely Korolev (head rocket designer, head of space program) and Glushko (head of rocket engine design, later head of space program) were ukies

>>65075237
>>65075239
I like how /k/ has a set time when all the Redditors get up to confidently state wrong opinions.
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraines-little-known-space-feats/a-61005697

>>65075242
If it was hitting Siberia we absolutely would have heard and seen evidence of it. Not least as at that distance it would make sense to fire West which could bring some... complications with firing a missile at that direction.

>>65075254
Ukraine had a sizeable role in Soviet aerospace, especially missile and nuclear technology. He's chest-beating about it but it's not wrong that Ukraine ended up with a lot of cool stuff in Kyiv and especially Dnipro that allowed them to capture niche markets, collaborate with ESA and NASA while up until very recently also being a major supplier for the Russian military.

Imagine if a modern CSA succeeded from the US and took Alabama's rocket park with it alongside a bunch of other critical components of US aerospace.

Those planes 100% take off from NATO airspace right?

>>65075290
>were ukies
They were all commie fucks and they spoke russian. Ukrainian memes are out of fucking control and they cannot even tell themselves apart.
>>65076480
This was my initial thought as well, how fucking pisspoor is Russian airdefence or their combat air patrols that none of these planes (obviously skirting what is and is not Ukrainian territory) that they cannot shoot them down. At this point you have to wonder if they really are afraid of downing some flying brick pretending it's safe once it reaches the "magical" border or if they simply cannot.

>>65076642
>They were all commie fucks
You'd say that you were a commie fuck as well, otherwise you'd get gulaged. Sometimes you'd get gulaged either way, like in case of Korolev.

>they spoke russian
Well, yes? Just like how Irish speak English. That's how empires operate: they repress the local culture and language to the point of criminalizing it.

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>>65074757
Cool new air launched missile but a range of 500km is very far from orbital velocityand a lot closer to a sounding rocket, they are probably just saying that to get more funding.
t. spaceflight nerd

>>65074890
Both increadibly based.

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>>65076947
>sounding rocket

>>65074781

kek