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Just saw footage of an israeli fpv drone take out a hezbollah operative. it seems they're packing way more HE.
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footage from the fpv drone
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>>65074784
>if i put my hands up and cover m eyes the drong can't see me
>inshallah ive tricked those heebs aga-ACK
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>>65074780
It's only natural.
The engagement ranges in Ukraine are far longer, so lighter warheads are preferred for greater range + with the kind of combat ongoing there, it's a rare case where a larger warhead would create greater casualties anyway. The vast majority of footage it's always one drone on one person. It doesn't matter if it's a big bang or a small boom, when the one guy is all that's there.
Even if it is a vehicle, with multiple guys in one place, the smaller bomb will render them all into casualties.
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>>65074798
>it's a rare case where a larger warhead would create greater casualties anyway. The vast majority of footage it's always one drone on one person
true. probabbly most suitable for urban areas. where you can send one and take out the 3-4 guys you're taking fire from
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>>65074780
Couple of questions.
What was this guy's plan? Did he just know he was done for and didn't care?
The fuck did he get caught doing for them to send not only an FPV but something to watch him get yeeted by it?
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>>65074804
>What was this guy's plan?
inshallah
>Did he just know he was done for and didn't care?
inshallah
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>>65074804
>The fuck did he get caught doing for them to send not only an FPV but something to watch him get yeeted by it?
the israelis have surrounded the town. with reports of lots of fighters trapped. they're just just getting picked off one by one with fpvs, jdams, mikholits. you name it
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>>65074789
More like he was too scared to stare death in the face. I thought they love martyrdom or is that some other fanatical group?
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What the fuck!? Israel is not supposed to use drones like that, it's not in their tech tree!
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>>65074821
Cognitive acceptance of death != physical acceptance of death. Your body will do everything it can to survive, disregarding all your cognitive fancies and shutting down your higher brain functions when you're actually faced with lethal threat.
A proper stress reaction starting from your amygdala physically impedes the functioning of higher brain functions. It's basically a lizard brain hijack, turning you into something far closer to an animal than an advanced human being.
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>>65074812
btw. the numbers here are insane and i have no clue why.

in 2002 the idf invaded the west bank and lost one soldier for every 16 militants killed. in 2006 they lost about 1 soldier for every 2-5 hezbs killed. in 2024, the number was something like 40:1. in the current conflict it's 100+:1. absolutely insane improvements from 2006 onwards, especially today
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>>65074823
quad go Vvvvvzzzzhhhh
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>>65074780
Ukrainians use mainly fragmentation payloads for infantry. I also bet that Ukrainian fpvs work at longer ranges so fly with lower payloads generally.
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That's gonna leave a mark
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>cheap drones will change warfare, now independent orgs will be able to stand up against established armies
*State funded drone corps with nigh infinite resources enters the chat*
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>>65074784
>>65074780
that drone looks slow as shit. he had all the time in the world to run away. after seeing all the yackety sax shit the slavs are pulling in ukraine against far more agile drones I'm chalking this one up to terminal skill issue.
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>>65074834
so what has changed from then to now? less press watching so different standing orders? better tech? way better find out where they are hiding and smoke them before the boots show up tech?
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>>65074812
some lebanese sources even say the town already fell
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>>65074854
Better tech, one side only improved and the other stagnated.
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>>65074848
>>65074780
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>>65074854
it's far easier for the kikes to just sit back and saturate the battlefield with PGMs of all kinds guided by overlapping round the clock surveillance.

there's nowhere to hide and their opponents have not had the chance to make the adaptations that the ukrainians and russians have been forced to make. the kikes themselves aren't facing organized state actors capable of persistent surveillance and massed FPV deployment

in 2006 if they wanted to seize ground they had to do reconnaissance in force with tanks and dudes, drones existed for recon but they were far fewer
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>>65074848
He went flying across the strreet
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>>65074859
makes sense like this poster pointed out >>65074851

>>65074866
i wonder how this tech will further develop. hunter seeker drones that are much smaller yet capable of doming a group of plebs a few blocks away after a fly sized drone locates and ID's targets.
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>>65074873
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>>65074873
it will evolve by removing humans from the loop entirely
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Why are Israelis posting videos like this?
You'd think they have interest in showing them taking out visually identifiable combatants but in recent memory I've only seen this guy getting blown up and the guy on the scooter
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>>65074903
>picking a side
>not just rooting for the bombs like a regular person
ooof
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>>65074899
he is very visibility wearing a chest rig >>65074784
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>>65074804
>What was this guy's plan?
I bet he was injured already and couldn't do much anyway. Covering his face was probably an instinctual act of terror and desperation. We've seen similar behavior in Ukraine. The awful thing about drones is that they're slow enough they let you realize your imminent doom, but fast enough there's not much you can do at that point.
>The fuck did he get caught doing
Not being an Israeli and not bending over.

Israel has found the infinite money cheat code and their border isn't that big, meaning they can deploy civilization ending military power. They have all the tech, all the weapons, all the time. Compared to any of their adversaries, they're almost like aliens from the future. That being said, Lebanon has been a fuck fuck circus since before History began, I just don't get what the Israeli are trying to get out of it.
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>>65074866
>it's far easier for the kikes to just sit back and saturate the battlefield with PGMs of all kinds guided by overlapping round the clock surveillance.
beyond that hezbollah is completely penetrated. the israelis seem to know the movements of their top, mid and low level commanders and operatives. they know when they make move or hold meetings and so a lot of them get killed before even making it to the battlefield
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>>65074829
Bah. Not a true believer!
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>>65074861
He cartwheeled out of the way at the last moment, such a dogged defender
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>>65074928
I took that for a backpack because the chest was obstructed by the progress bar.
Thank you for pointing that out
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>>65074780
Why does everyone hit by an FPV seem to just emit confetti like Grunt Party was turned on in Halo 3? Seen it Ukraine, seen it in Lebanon now
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>>65074931
>I just don't get what the Israeli are trying to get out of it
Beating Hezbollah back so the can't fire rockets on Israeli towns like they have been doing for the last 26 years.
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>>65075001
isn't it just the insulation in clothing sent flying?
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>>65074903
>waaah! my side is losing!!!
Life ain't fair, kid.
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>>65075001
>>65075032
Its also the lithium battery packs.
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>>65075046
well I'll be damned, I thought they were dark grey when unrolled but I forgot about the spacer material
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>>65075025
So they're going for the symptomatic therapy
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>>65074784
you can tell the drone pilot ain't that experienced yet. he just drifts in real slow. ukie drone pilots are doing fuckin loops and spinning manoeuvrers hitting vatnik dirt bike riders at full speed
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>>65074854
They evacuated the civilians first.
You're just asking to die by wandering around a hostile city full of civilians you're not allowed to kill "looking for militants." The militants can hide among the population until they decide to pop you.
When you can just kill anything that moves it makes it a lot easier.
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>>65075085
There doesn't seem to be a way to stop the Palestinians from being genocidal shitstains other than to kill them all.
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>>65074899
>Why are Israelis posting videos like this?
isn't it the easiest way to disprove claims of indiscriminate killing?
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>>65074854
>so what has changed from then to now?
Complete infiltration of Hezbollah's supply chain for a start if the pagers were anything to go by
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>>65075106
definitely not as experienced
but it's probably maneuverable with all that explosives
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>>65075493
less maneuverable
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Call me a bitch but Jesus, this drone warfare is horrific.
A bullet is instant, often unseen.
So is a mine, or a tank/artillery shell. You'll be dead before you hear the boom.
But a drone is essentially an explosive version of certain death slowly walking toward you to behead you while whistling a tune.
Yes the explosion will probably kill them instantly, but what about the minute of hearing the drone approach, or the seconds seeing it close in on you.
There's nothing you can do. There's no hope. Even if you have a gun, even a specialist anti-drone one, the odds of you shooting a skilled fpv operative down are close to zero. Those things are fast. But not faster than a bullet.
I'd much prefer to peek over the edge and get my head blown smoove off by a skilled sniper than hear the buzz of a drone above my head knowing there's nothing I can do (in 99% of these videos, the soldiers are unarmed).
You're dead either way I guess but these fpv situations definitely feel more personal and I can't help but put myself in the shoes of whatever fuck it's headed towards, and I'm not even the empathetic type.
The drone operators, on the other hand, must be certified psychopaths. No way someone can endlessly mow down unarmed men and look them in the eyes through a camera each time and have a scot free conscience unless they're simply numb. Even firing squads had blanks to prevent people from feeling too guilty. This is about as personal as a Columbian necktie.

Le war... le war never... wtf it changed?!
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>>65074784
>it's over
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>>65074784
Why did he cover his face? Was it fear, or did he think it was some kind of AI drone and that if he hid his face, it wouldn’t see him?

>>65075085
I think there’s going to be a buffer zone without civilians, or with very few (most are evacuated), where Israel will have forward defenses against rockets, which will basically eliminate the rocket threat and ATGM threats, or at the very least add more time for defense. I wouldn’t define this as symptomatic therapy.
Symptomatic therapy is what Israel has had over the last 20+ years on its northern border.
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>>65074784
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>>65074861
>israelis only provide aftermath footage for their warcrimes
Sounds about right
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>>65077272
>warcrime
Stop using words you don't understand.
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>>65074798
This, you can have a huge warhead or good range, Israel doesn't need 20km range while Ukraine does if they don't want to be outranged by zigger drones.
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Crazy how infested with yids this board has become
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>>65074903
>mudslimes are human
quite brown of you
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>>65077178
Everyone's had that thought but think what the guy will do once the drone passes overhead. Does he go home and dash his uniform? Does he pick up his gun and carry on? Rejoin his forces and get told to do exactly that? Which do you think is more likely? If they're unarmed they've not surrendered yet. The slow march of death towards them didn't start when they were aquired, it began when they put on the uniform and went to war, even if they didn't yet hear the drone.
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>>65074931
>what the Israeli are trying to get out of it.
Land and freshwater access ultimately
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>>65077178
>A bullet is instant, often unseen.
>So is a mine, or a tank/artillery shell. You'll be dead before you hear the boom.
Lmao, you naive dummy.
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>>65075149
Positively insane post
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>>65077291
He's been using them for 4 years now, it's hard to stop at this point.
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>>65077178
>A bullet is instant, often unseen.
>So is a mine, or a tank/artillery shell.
you get shot and then you usually get maimed and spend hours or days dying in excruciating pain
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>>65074780
idf has its own manufacturing department that makes these iirc
same department is also doing re purposing/refurbishing of various munitions for example they took warheads from a retired mortar system and put them on old M72 LAW anti armor rockets (also retired) and build new explosive rocket launchers for the fighting in gaza that way.
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>>65074821
>I thought they love martyrdom
They're lebanese, trying to defend their homeland.
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>>65080200
it's only shia (lebanon has christians and sunnis too) doing the fighting because they're doing iran's bidding. nothing to do with defending their homeland. but you knew that already
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>>65080200
they would have joined the army then, not a terrorist group
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>>65077980
Okay fine, kill everyone who is a jew or likes israel, its one or the other for an insane group of people and one option is far easier.
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>>65080200
/pol/tards going all-in on something as brown as Islam to “own da joos” will never not be funny.
Epstein’s psyops really fucked you guys, didn’t it?
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>>65074854
experience.
in gaza the ground troops worked out a plan which actually works against tunnels and insurgency instead of bursting every house like retard "special forces".
1. get all the civilians out
2. take all the clear fields around the heavily tunneled/boobytrapped dense housing
3. slowly bulldoze everything with D9s or rig with a huge amount of C4
it's called the zarbiv plan named after a rabbi who invented the bulldozing of Rafah
of course all of it is supervised by plenty of hermes 900s who are probably responsible for most field kills
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>>65080200
>defending their homeland
>starting two consecutive wars, one for the sake of Hamas and one for Iran
pick one
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>>65074780
>take out a hezbollah operative
How do you know that?
Could be just some random civilian, homeless and sheltering nearby. It's not like Israel doesn't enjoy killing civilians.
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>>65080200
You seriously riled up the JIDF.
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>>65080362
>JIDF is when you hate browns and mudslimes
Saar...
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>>65080362
/k/ is not your xitter echo bubble. Third-Worldism and low iq lies to peddle narratives will be called out
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>>65080362
both sides want to genocide each other, I don't get the need to sugarcoat it
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Can anyone recognize the vest?
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>>65080362
IRGC operative says what?
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>>65074798
>the one zigger who doesn't even realize what's happening until the drone's next to his ear
In peacetime, he would have been the likeliest of everyone here to cause a traffic accident.
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>>65074812
I've not been paying much attention other than knowing Isreal invaded and bombes Lebanon and everyone is screaming warcrimes again. What's the actual military picture?
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>>65074854
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>>65080275
These. Basic infantry should not be clearing houses, they should be calling in weapons that flatten any house that shoots back.
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>>65077178
First, bullets are almost never instant death, watch more bodycam footage. Second, shells are only instant death if you're really close to the point of detonation. Most kills are either by suffering horrible concussion-induced internal injuries, or getting an arm or a leg ripped off and bleeding out, or just getting shredded by shrapnel and suffering for hours or days before your body finally gives out. You also typically can hear indirect fire, from mortars to the big artillery. It's one of the most commonly-cited sources of terror for any memoir about either World War. Third, FPV operators don't see the results of their work, at least immediately, the camera cuts out at the moment of detonation. Even then, there may indeed be mental issues down the road, if the US's experience with its own drone campaign during the Obama years is anything to go by. But this is no different than other eras of war where the killing was personal and up close. If anything, this is a return to form, not a new horrific development.

In short, terrible post from start to finish.
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>>65080392
They each want to be the victim as the murder the other side.
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>>65080395
what the fuck
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>>65080395
Man, the Haredi are absolute Untermenschen. Guess all that inbreeding eventually takes its toll.
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>>65080200
They are more courageous than anyone posting on this board honestly. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes
>>65080275
None of this is new. They've been bulldozing homes for half a century
>>65080329
The suicide rate in the IDF would imply a lot of them don't enjoy it and at least have some conscience. Their leadership will always be the core problem
>>65080373
No but its your echo bubble right? People are allowed to have opinions but you retards think that anyone who doesn't deepthroat the US-israeli line is Indian like they aren't infamously obsequious to israel
>peddle narratives
Lmao I won't hold my breathe for you to call out the obvious shilling you just happen to agree with
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>>65080672
>People are allowed to have opinions
people are allowed to have opinons, yes. but factual statements are not opinion. you're just wrong and you should accept it.
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>>65080672
real courageous of them attacking civilians like their hated enemy the jews right? Just accept that your beloved terrorists are the otherside of the same genocidal coin faggot
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>>65080493
Well yes, if you haven't noticed the Oppression Olympics happen to have been en vogue in the West for the better part of 15 or 20 years, it would only make sense to try and message to the populations of potential benefactors that you're the right people to support in language they understand.
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There are no civilians in israel>>65080900
Opps wrong image
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>>65080901
It appears that Israeli children are pre-emptive eliminations. The slogans write themselves.
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>>65080901
>>65080900
Why are they so fucking ugly?
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Brownoids on a melty again,
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>>65080681
Let me guess, what you consider factual is that israel dindu nuffin and everyone who doesn't pass the brown paper bag test should be exterminated right? Meanwhile the power of the IDF is a fact and so is the courage of the guerrillas that would stand up to it. This is not debatable.
>>65080737
Meh, if you can't step outside of your narrow worldview to see that freedom fighter and terrorist are merely perspective based synonyms that's your own problem.
>otherside of the same genocidal coin
When's the last time the Lebanese, Syrians, or Palestinians ethnically cleansed sections of israel? I think they have a long way to go to reach parity.

And the other anon has a point, there aren't many civilians in israel when its state policy to train everyone as a combatant
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>>65074854
Hezbollah is a shadow of its former self at this point.
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>>65077390
Inbreeding status?
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>>65080200
Then join the lebanese army
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>>65081225
Something, something, stones and glass houses....
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>>65074780
>Jews have more money and do not care at all about potential collateral damge
We know.
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>>65081225
Einstein almost disowned his son for marrying a girl who was not a jew.
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>>65081230
Hmm. Something might be happening that would make them less appealing to a young man who wants to defend his country
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>>65081283
didn't Darwin fuck his own cousin?
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Do you think he shat himself in his last seconds on earth?
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>>65081283
>Einstein almost disowned his son for marrying a girl who was not a jew.
No he didn't.
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>>65081306
Honestly a noble self sacrifice, it's like the perverse FPV version of jumping on a grenade to save others.
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>>65080227
Or it could be that they're mostly Shia because the region israel expelled civilians from (ethnic cleasing) was also mostly Shia
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>>65081201
>everyone who doesn't pass the brown paper bag test should be exterminated
Wait, which is it this time? Are Jews white colonists or are they brown untermensch?

>When's the last time the Lebanese, Syrians, or Palestinians ethnically cleansed sections of israel? I think they have a long way to go to reach parity.
That's been their literal stated goal for the last century, and they have attempted to affect that goal numerous times (Hezbollah has stated, in no uncertain terms, that their unprovoked rocket attacks on towns in northern Israel are intended to depopulate the region of Jews, and the same can be said of Hamas' rocket attacks and cross-border raids). The fact that they're too inept to achieve that goal is another matter. Where they are able to bully weaker ethnic groups (e.g. Lebanon's Christian population, minorities in Syria), they do so with gusto and to the deafening silence of every westerner that condemns Israel for not succumbing to the same fate.

>there aren't many civilians in israel when its state policy to train everyone as a combatant
You really don't want to play that game, Ahmed.
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>>65081325
>stated goal
>attempted
>intended
>too inept
So I ask you again, when's the last time the Lebanese, Syrians, or Palestinians ethnically cleansed sections of israel?
Considering the above verbiage, I think they have a long way to go to reach parity.
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>>65081306
omg based IDF so benevolent they really do care about civilians we should honestly be thanking them for this 10/10 great job high fives all around for this totally real touching definitely not propaganda story i hope The Dodo picks it up
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>>65081318
Pretty smart from the IDF too.
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>>65081342
From your sarcasm, it seems you would rather civilians be harmed when Hezbollah is targeted.
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>>65081347
oh no it's not about that, it's the absurdly unbelievably notion that a.) the IDF would give a target advance warning and risk them escaping, as well as b.) the notion that the IDF cares about indiscriminately slaughtering civilians
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>>65081353
Are you living in an alternate reality where the following doesn't happen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking
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>>65081347
Of course he would, he doesn't give a shit about fucking gazans or lebanese. They're only useful for him when they die in a way that makes useful propaganda. Them surviving is fucking with his whole plan.
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>>65077178
>There's no hope. Even if you have a gun, even a specialist anti-drone one, the odds of you shooting a skilled fpv operative down are close to zero.

Lol, they're nowhere near that good. They get shot down all the fucking time. Those just don't get uploaded to the epic dead orc complications so you don't see them
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>>65081353
It looks like the guy tried to escape and it didn't work. Instead of walking slowly from the car, back straight and accepting his fate like a samurai he ran low to the ground, crouched over looking for cover like the cowardly little terrorist rat he was.
S
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>>65081359
how nice of them to let them know they're about to completely obliterate their civilian homes

maybe i just find this stuff hard to stomach because Israel and the IDF are the ultimate scumbags who lie, cheat, steal, and rob from their supposed "allies". look up Jonathan Pollard if you don't already know who he is.
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>>65081339
>yes kafir, just ignore the fact that they have been ethnically cleansing Lebanon and Syria for the last century while Israel has yet to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians
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>IDF is literally shilling ITT right now

This timeline is wild.
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>>65081365
So we've gone from "Israel indiscriminately slaughters civilians" to "Israel doesn't indiscriminately slaughter civilians, but they're still evil for attempting to not kill civilians while killing the combatants trying to murder them". I also notice you've dropped the "no such thing as a civilian" tack (because, again, the "civilian" buildings being targeted are being targeted for their use by combatants), but I'm guessing that only ever applied to Jews.
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>>65081365
>>65081367
Hah, there it is. The tacit admission that the poster doesn't actually give a shit about the truth, they just want to push an agenda and the IDF minimizing civilian casualties fucks with that.
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>>65081367
>The standard fallback when you can't argue with logic.
predictable.
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>>65081371
>>65081369

This. Israel is the real victim in all of this, always has been. Everyone needs to pledge their support for the IDF and probably give some money so they can buy more weapons to defeat these evil terrorists.
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>>65081366
Literally every palestinian accusation is a confession.
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>>65081381
I'm sorry that real life is messy and there aren't any good guys you can be a heroic white savior to.
Would you like a gummi bear?
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>>65081371
Standard /pol/estine debate procedure - firehose of falsehood then claim they don' actually care when outed as a liar. Just don't ask then how being in denial gets them anything except mockery.
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>>65081387
most people aren't really upset if Palestinians get blown up by the IDF, they're more annoyed by the chronic lying that comes from Israel and its shills. it's about credibility, and the IDF has none.
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>>65081384
based, i read this on Reddit a while ago and was going to post it here myself but you beat me to it.
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>>65081394
>it's about credibility?
Who bombed Al-Ahli hospital?
Now find me any /pol/estine supporter who condemned Hamas and PIJ for killing their own civilians, if they were able to find the time between blocking traffic and bullying sick kids at cancer hospitals?
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>>65081367
>shill gets btfo'd, accuses everyone else of shilling
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>>65081394
Oh right, so you don't actually give a shit about the palestinians? So I was right, and their lives are just propaganda tokens to you, to be cashed in when needed?
Pretty sad that the hateful, lying, demonic IDF apparently cares more about the lives of palestinians than their earnest defenders in the West.
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>make one post
>results in an explosion of posts from pro-IDF "anons"

yes typical 4channers who love israel and the IDF, very organic indeed.
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>>65081422
>make a series of totally organic totally not shill posts
>eventually get told by annoyed anons
>"n-no! y-you're the shills n-not me!!"
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>>65081424
if you love Israel so much why don't you move there, they'll give you birthright citizenship you know

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