>Burgers are asleep
>implying I'm weak enough to need sleep

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>>65076289
>Burgers are asleep
false

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Have you done any nice winter adventures, fellow yuranons?

>>65076299
Whatcha' doing burgeranon?

>>65076289
Stop ruining our board you leftist Eurotrash and die

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What EU country allows full auto possession without too much hassle ?

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>>65076354
I took a long range class. If I can convince my local range to put gongs at 800m I want to buy a Sabatti Rover Shooter.

>>65076405
>Sabatti Rover

Triple check the crown for burrs, it's a known issue with some Sabatti rifles. Recent batches (2024 and later) should be ok, but check anyways.

Other than that, it's a pretty damn good rifle.

>>65076405
Nice. I've got a cheapo "sub-moa" "rated" bolt action and it can hit a 10 ring reliably at 100m. Wondering how accurate that thing really is but I don't know of any good places around here I can shoot over 100m. New range is opening up soon (max 50m) but they might let me shoot some beercans or something so I can at least dick around with suppressed subsonic rounds making noise at the other end.

>>65076363
Define too much hassle.

>>65076454
I bought a custom Rem 700 from my friend for €1200 and have barely even shot it lol
But building one with the exact same parts now would cost in the ballpark of €2300 so a bargain it is

>spent 3k€ on hunting course
>mum doesn't want guns in her basement
>shooting club only has beat to shit 22s
I hate my life and I hate myself.

>>65076500
Move out? Just be glad you can own firearms of any relevance.

>>65076500
How come you Germans don't get kicked out at 18 like we Finns do

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>>65076474
Decent, about what I paid for mine with scope. Gonna have to get back to liftan to improve my aim however. How are bullet prices over there?

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>>65076432
Thanks for the tip, I'm honestly still undecided as at first I wanted to get a Tikka T3X, but I figured since Sabatti are a good value for your buck that I'd buy something Italian. I just know that my scope is gonna be a SWFA SS even if they are hard to get here in Europe.
>>65076454
>I don't know of any good places around here I can shoot over 100m.
Same, my range has paper targets only up to 200m now and past that it's just gongs. But it's up the side of a mountain so you'd also need to account for that which can make it fun. (except when I was starting out and couldn't understand why my shots were hitting high)

>>65076654
>Tikka T3X
Wtf stop being me. Anyway heard compared to competition at that price Tikkas are the ones that can be improved but otherwise come with the best stock parts, most others you'd need to buy a better trigger or something else.

>you'd also need to account for that which can make it fun
Heard that after the ICE sniper whiffed all his shots, how does that work? Having to aim higher when going down I mean.

>>65076667
>Tikkas are the ones that can be improved
Yes I saw that. Their third party chassis systems were part of the reason I wanted one.
>Having to aim higher when going down I mean.
Lower, you aim lower wheter you're shooting at something that is higher or lower than you. This is because the bullet does not fall as far away from its original path.
Back when I had bought my first rifle I experienced this, I had just zeroed the optic after some troubles (posp 4x lmao), measured the distance and set the turret appropriately and yet I was still hitting high. I had no idea I needed to do this so I kept wasting ammo going back to the 100m line rezeroing the optic thinking I was doing something wrong there.
If you're interested a good book on this is "Long Range Shooting Handbook" by Cleckner at chapter 19.

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>>65076289
I might buy one of those stupid ass looking Hera arms bolt action rifles, just because of their looks but then again i want to save money to buy a nice bolt action rifle.

anyone got experience with the Ruger precision rifle ? they seems cheap but i want to know if they're good enough

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Any eurobros have to make do with black powder? I have this little nigga and plan to buy a remington

>>65076966
i got an original 1873 trapdoor to feed, problem is less and less shops are getting blackpowder, they blame it on being too "volatile".
been thinking about Pyrodex but i don't want to play mad scientist with a collectible

Would it kill CZ to make more than a dozen CZ 97 barrel bushings a year
Nonetheless, I got mine, hahahaha

>>65076948
>Ruger precision rifle
I haven't heard good things about it. Stick to better brands and buy European.

>>65076289
How the fuck do you deal with fogging on safety glasses, I've dried anti-fog sprays and all sorts. It's driving me insane.

>>65076363
None, I think Poland and Switzerland are the best you can get. I bought a new firing pin for my 1889 from a Swiss guy who was running a private museum and had RPGs even iirc. I seem to remember Poland having a similar deal.

>>65076500
Club won't store guns for you?

>>65077184
>How the fuck do you deal with fogging on safety glasses, I've dried anti-fog sprays and all sorts. It's driving me insane.
Somehow wearing glasses and safety glasses didn't get much fogging, indoor range so good ventilation? Otherwise outdoor boomer (hunting) ranges just let you go with normal glasses but I'm sure that can bite one in the ass eventually, even if shooting bolt actions etc.

>Poland
Yeah, you can get special permission on a collector's license. You can still buy bullets and take your gun to the range, no need to make it non-functional although they're trying to slide that shit. Possibly on a self defense/defense of others license but those are hard to get unless you're boinking the police form what I've heard.

>>65076800
Niceeee. What country? Slovenia?

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>>65076362
>leftist

If you knew my political views as of late you'd probably tell me to chill out a bit, also I've been here for about 20 years now and you smell like an election tourist.

>>65076362
56% mutter thinks all of europe is cuckmany, the orwellian nanny state shithole that is great pakistan, sweden or france. said mutter would mald if somebody said new york and california was representative of all of the usa

doesn't realise that there are many european nations that have actual right wing ethnonationalist parties in power and are far whiter than his shithole.
mald muttie!

>>65076289
>AK
>defaced EU flag
Uhm...

>>65076289
Good thread. I know you all treat Burger advice like a a stalwart Christian treats the bible. However, I'm just humbly requesting that you do not buy cucked firearms like our fellow citizens do in unfree states. If all you can obtain is a weatherized modern bolt action rifle, then that's what you should buy. Reload. Get proficient. Be fit. End transmission.

>>65077426
>many European nations
Name them.

>>65077619
Kinda interjecting but like: The Balkans

>>65077621
Do Bosnians exist?

>>65077619
most of eastern europe, baltics, balkans, italy and switzerland
the most based countries in the world general. britsharias, cuckmanians and f*ench """"""people"""""" are a disgrace to european civilisation

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>>65077660
Not a single one of those countries has good gun laws
>but muh ethnowank
Gratz you look like the other slaves. You fags kvetch about CA and NY but they still have better gun rights than 99.9% of Europe, with maybe the Czechs still doing good for now, by dint of actually keeping gun ownership a right instead of some cope allowance with hilarious storage laws, licensing and health checks.
>a bloo bloo bloo I wuz talking about how based the govt is!
This is the weapons board nigger, go back to your flaggot wank home board if you want to jerk off over what your master said this week

>>65077371
Czechia, it’s the flag of Moravia

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>>65077747
>This is the weapons board nigger
Bold of you to say that and not post guns
I hate the Astra rollmarks so much btw

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>>65076289
to piss of lardmutts, picrel flag works better than the reichskriegsflagge at an antifa gathering
>>65076362
post guns burgernigger or fuck off to your pol maga gayboards
>>65076800
nice family
>>65076948
the hera bolty is a tacticool version of the voere s16, which is cheaper
cheapest .223 bolty from europe is a zastava mini mauser or a 2nd hand cz527.
>>65077747
ok kiddo. now stop phoneposting from your highschool toilet and go to back to class.

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>>65076362
Kys

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>>65077184
buy glasses that leave enough of a gap between eyebrow area and glasses to ventilate
dont push em ultra tight up against the nose
breath through your nose

i only have this problem when shooting rifles benched in winter, i have to exhale to the left not to fog my glasses up with my breath

and maybe dont be nervous ' n sweating? drink a beer before range or take off your shoulder padded shooting vest, be cool.

>>65076363
Heavily depends on how you define hassle.
In Czhech republic it's "move to somewhere where the police chief isn't a complete faggot, have the highest tier of safe and accept annual inspections from your local PD" which may not mean too much hassle compared to other countries, but is still a lot more pain compared to the previous requirement of "don't be a criminal / junkie / schizo and pass this equivalent of a driver's license test" which enables you to own essentially everything else imaginable.

>>65076362
Keep /pol/shit in >>>/pol/ , Goycattle.

>>65076654
Can you own semis in Italy?

>>65077955
If you're talking to whom I think you're talking to, guy's got like 3 SVDs and an M16

are there any italians here? how did you start owning and using guns, and is there something essential i should know?

>>65077747
>Not a single one of those countries has good gun laws
they have more permissive gun laws than several democrat states which already have licensing, storage laws, checks and shit like an "assault weapon" ban, suppressors ban and magazine bans which those countries dont have you fucking retard
poland, slovakia and baltic nations have shall issue concealed carry as well.
>new york and california dont have licensing or permitting
except they do. so does new jersey, massachusetts, connecticut, hawaii and illinois. enjoy your increasing awb and mag bans. even virginia just passed those alongside storage laws

>>65078096
Shut the fuck up, these threads are always ruined by the hurrdurr le mutt bickering
Post guns and about guns instead

>>65078093
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2CSkOTfaULo&pp=ygUOaXRhbHkgZ3VuIGxhd3M%3D
https://www.reddit.com/r/FirearmsItalia/
https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeGuns/comments/1n4njc3/gun_laws_in_italy/

>>65078096
Shut the fuck up, these threads are always ruined by the hurrdurr le mutt bickering
Post guns and about guns instead

>>65078099
When Amerilards stop coming into these threads and start going "hurr no guns" and think every country is as ardous to own firearms as the UK people will stop making fun of those retards.
>>65078096
>>65077747
New York state alone requires FOUR notarised references (even the UK only requires two for shotgun or firearms certificates), to obtain a licence to own handguns or any semi automatic firearm, with many counties requiring interviews with references, 18 hour course minimum, six month processing time in any county, a complete a history of your health records, and has an "assault weapon" ban, a complete ban on magazines over ten rounds, a ban on suppressors, and even if you have a permit you cant order guns and ammo online and have them shipped to your house. Also county judges approve the permits and not police. NYC is even stricter than all of that too kek.

>>65078123
six month minimum*

>>65078100
thanks!

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Hello shooters, how are you guys with your ammo stocks? I'm a bit low on .223 and all the hunting shops here are out of the cheapo 55gr. Fiocchi training ammo.

>>65078135
I'm sitting on so much surplus 5.56 that I gave up on reloading .223 entirely and I have high hopes of turning my remaining rather extensive stockpile of pre-covid Hornady 55gr FMJBT into dirt cheap 5.7x28.

>>65078135
I have jack shit for ammo, my salary isn't even that bad and I can't buy remotely enough at these current rape prices

>>65078146
Isn't 5.7x28 brass really annoying to reload? I've been told that FN lubes the casings to ensure reliability or some crap.

>>65078135
Im good on 9mm, 308 and 30-06, but cant find 303 for the life of me

>>65078161
Yeah it's perfectly straight walled so it wouldn't work reliably in the 50rd mag otherwise, so they have to put this polymer lube coat on it to get it to extract.
That means you can't tumble it like normal brass but you can just put it in lukewarm water with some dish soap and gently agitate it, then resize normally.
It's kind of a pain in the ass but you save something like ~90% on every new round which is even better than reloading unobtanium old timer wildcats.

>>65078164
The secret is pulling bullets out of surplus LPS 7.62x54R and sticking them in .303 brass, sweetest .303 you'll ever shoot and it even works in shot out 2-groove barrels that will make off-the-shelf ammo keyhole.

>>65076800
Tpč P-08. Noice.

>>65077955
yes
>>65078000
hi

>>65077849
>to piss off lardmutts
No one outside of Reddit gives a shit about seeing that flag.

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>>65078232
Picrel was on my wall for some time out of idle nostalgia (favorite uncle did civil war reenactment on the confederate side) and posting it here was always a guaranteed seethe from at least 1-2 people lmao

Is there anywhere in Europe to buy cheap mosins or are those all long gone? This goes for 7.62R as well?>>65078185

The only gun shot that has a good stock is run by neonazi subhuman scummy subhuman that should be arrested
I refuse to buy from them.
Importing is a bitch for us retards that have a sports and not a hunting license
Follow up question, in theory how hard would it be to get in a car drive across Europe to on of the "less stable part of europe" get goodies and drive back?

>>65078287
Cheap nuggets are long gone.
Unironically better to buy a Finn now because they're only marginally more expensive but you get a massively better gun for your buck.

>Follow up question
>clueless western/central Euro goes to the Balkans/Ukraine and tries to buy illegal guns with pockets full of cash

Trying to smuggle anything you might miraculously happen to buy back into Schengen is probably the least of your trouble because the whole thing really sounds more like a great way to get your organs harvested and your body thrown in a nearest body of water chained to a cinderblock.

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>>65078259
does it? most of the South still believes the Confederacy will rise again. Most southern state flags are directly based on their Confederate era ones. My hometown flies the Confederate flag at the courthouse still (the actual Confederate flag not the battle flag)

>>65076966
Apparently, they are legal in Poland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gOERSXqmKw

>>65077204
>>65077891
I'm beginning to think it's an issue with me, I'm shooting indoors and breathing from nose but still fogging. Hopefully new glasses will help, even tried anti-fog sprays but nothing worked yet.

>>65077411
You can safely assume that anyone whining about Euros here is an election tourist. There used to be fairly regular generals for various Euros.

>>65077747
Yeah this is a weapons board so why are you being such a spastic about a thread about weapons?

>>65077955
You can own semis in most of Europe to varying degrees. Even in Bongistan.

>>65078287
Dunno about your particular country but I looked at importing a Danish Krag to the UK and the paperwork made is such a pain as to not be worth the effort. I've been advised by others who've done it that you basically need to buy 3 guns, two to sell to cover the costs. This is with Danish Krags not being licenced in the UK btw. Not sure if you have to get import/export permits for weapons between EU members though, I would think so.

>>65078293
>Cheap nuggets are long gone.
Try being a Finn sometime
Not that I'd buy one anymore

>>65078407
>Not sure if you have to get import/export permits for weapons between EU members though, I would think so.
Yes and it sucks. Germany, Czech Rep. and Poland are actually relatively easy to import from but e.g. France makes individual exports practically impossible

>>65078293
>whole thing really sounds more like a great way to get your organs harvested and your body thrown in a nearest body of water chained to a cinderblock.
You havent been to many shithole have you?
Thats bad for business , dont shit where you eat mentality. If you get a bad rep of doing shit to people who buy from you then nobody Will.
Seccond you have to know locals. If anything i would probably take a moldova guy I know and go there or to transnistira.
The "Russians" there are stuck for a good while now, and sitting on the biggest arms depot of eastern europe. Just food for tought tho.
Too much of a pussy to do any of this, the esiest option is to go to a gypsie hood, pic related.

>Cheap nuggets are long gone
Why tho 27 million made Im sure there are scores of them in cosmoline in wearhouses all Over the world

>Unironically better to buy a Finn
How tho? I live on the ass end of Europe ,importation laws are retarded and gun shops suck cock only Carter to hunters or law enforcement. Only way is to buy from someone who can import them or has One and wants to sell
>>65078407
You have to get a gunsmith license, which unrelated to the carry license i already have. Then get another permite from the Police to the weapons in question.
All this costa a ton and all goes trough the Police who at any step can decide you reasoning is not good enough and just say no. Oh and ofcourse the customs paper work and taxes
So even a 500 euro gun Will cost you at least 4k. But hey the One after Will only cost you a few Hundred more

>>65078208
Thanks senpai, it was made in 1918 and kept in civvie possession the whole time so it doesn't have that much collector value so I got it for cheap when it comes to a Luger

>>65076362
>>65077747
kill yourself goycattle
>>65078099
>>65078111
>retarded mutt enters Euro thread and instantly chimps out with off topic /pol/shit
>gets BTFO'd
>"uhh actually talk about guns o algo"

>>65078658
>HUURRDDUUURRRR!!!
What did I just say you fucking retard

>>65077908
Did this change when that Ukrainian shot the university up?

>>65078453
>Czech Rep.
I heard that it is impossible to export any "ex-military" weapons, i.e. L1A1s, original vz.58s, etc. Basically anything that was ever in service.

>>65078804
He wasn't an Ukie, he was just an autistic chud

>>65078819
I guess but it's still such a bitch to import anything from inside the EU I will simply never bother

>>65076362

Retard detected

>>65078820
Oh ok
>The identity of the gunman has now been revealed to be student David Kozák, who had reportedly been studying for a masters degree in world history with a special focus on the history of Poland.
>studies Polish history
>goes murder-suicidally insane
Makes sense I guess.

How hard nowadays is to get a license in Czechia? I keep hearing burgers say it's quite easy and they're based because they get full-autos in the constitution but it seems like it's about the same as here lately.

>>65076549

How much is German/Finn real estate?

t. American

>>65077849

Still not a union jack

>>65078259

Confederate sex courts should burn in hell. "We were british" flag doesn't piss most people off, it seems ignorant is all

>>65076549
you parents must have hated you
t: binn who left the cottage at 22

>>65078921
depends on where you buying and what.
block in a big city or a house near one? starting at +300k€ (354k$)
bumfuck no where? like +20k€ (23k$)
t:binn

>>65078975
I left at 16 my dude

>>65078993
>bumfuck no where? like +20k€ (23k$)

In Finland maybe. You won't find real estate that cheap in Germany. Even in the shittiest parts of the former GDR it starts around a 100k.

>>65078847
Not the anon you are replying to but to get the license isn't that big of a deal. Before 2026 it was easier though. Goes like this:
>you send a request to a police
>they approve and give you date and name of the shooting range you will attend the exam at
>to pass an exam you have to complete a test of 30 questions assembled out of total of 500 questions you learned earlier. They are various questions from law, basic gun and ammo knowledge and first aid
>time limit is 40 minutes and requires you to have at least 28 questions answered correctly.
>if you pass the test you can stay and wait for another test, if you fucked up they sent you home and you can request for a next test after 3 months.
>next test is gun safety
>basically they let you manipulate with the gun based on orders they give you to see if you are retarded and e.g. put finger inside of a trigger guard or accidentaly point the gun in unsafe direction. You also have to know how to disassemble/assemble the gun.
>if you pass this you can go to the next test. If you fucked up you can ask to try again and police will give you another date. You no longer need to write a test and you go straight to gun safety test.
>final test is shooting
>you have to shoot 50cm target from 10 meters with a hangun (9mm) and the same target from 25 meters with a rifle (.22LR)
>you have to hit the target at least 8 times out of 10 shots to pass.
>if you pass you go to the police and they will register you in the database as eligible to have a gun.
>if you fucked up, you can ask to try again and they will give you another date. You start from the safety test. You can only fuck up once. Then you have to start over.
I didn't proof read this shit so apologies for any typos and stuff.

>>65078135
Is that the Magpul bipod? I got the Harris one instead but am thinking about the Magpul for my next build.

>>65079425
So what were the changes in 2026

>>65078847
>>65079425
There are some details as well. You have to have a medical check, no criminal records, no (history of) addictions, no mental issues etc.
The license is separated to two categories. General and extended. General is just for sport, hunting and collecting. Extended is all of the above and for ccw/self protection and if you need a gun for a job. There are gun categories which is another story. But in general handguns and semi rifles/pccs requires you to have approval from police and you need to register the firearm. For hunting rifles and shotguns you can buy without approval but you have to register it. Getting full auto isn't hard but can be pain in the ass with checks from police at home and other shit. Not impossible though.

>>65079440
You used to have license categories:
A - collecting
B - sport
C - hunting
D - for work
E - self protection/ccw permit
Each was unique in it's own way and you could combine them however you wanted. Now you have just two. Also weapon categories changed so now for example you have to register a silencer. Tests are done with whatever weapon they want. So there are odds you trained with CZ75 like everyobody else before you for thirty years but they will give you something you never held/shoot. Shooting test used to be different based on the license categories. Lots of the bureaucracy moved to the online space so you don't have to go to police all the time for different papers to buy and register a gun. I didn't really read the new laws but this is what I know/heard from others.

>>65079425
That's in a way more fucked than Finland
In Finland it just amounts to a two-year wait for handguns, which is gay, but there are no mandatory tests whatsoever

>>65079493
Well I don't mind. It's pretty much the same as getting a driving license. Maybe it sounds gay but in reality it's quite ok. Once you get the license you can go buy a whatever legan gun you want in something like two days. No papers, nothing.

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>>65078804
>>65078847
>Ukrainian shot the university up

What the fuck is this schizo lore lmao?
Where did the "Ukrainian" part even come from?

Also no, nothing really changed.
There was a proposed (handgun) suppressor ban but it didn't pass, in part because
>The University of Chemistry and Technology decided to run an experiment in their own building, testing what effect the use of a suppressor will have during a mass shooting
>result: no one could tell the difference, most people around the corner couldn't even tell it was gunfire at all, or what direction it was coming from

The only change was that cops now get pinged when you buy a fuck ton of guns and ammo at once (i.e. a newfag gun owner uni student takes out a loan to buy >4 rifles and 10k rounds of ammo like the dude who shot up the school.)
It doesn't really mean anything for the regular gun owner, I've heard sport shooters say that after they stocked up on ammo for the season, they got a call from the local PD which amounted to "hey nigga you doing ok?"

>>65079440
>So what were the changes in 2026

The changes range between a net positive and neutral, i.e.
- 5 license categories shrunk to 2 that correspond to all of the former
(The majority of Czechs had a carry type license, so they now have the "expanded" license which is the whole shebang.)
- almost everything can now be done online
- end of physical licenses and "gun ID cards", they just check your regular ID in the system and see your license type

And for new license applicants it's a new set of test questions. Not even more difficult IMO, just new.

>>65078819
>I heard that it is impossible to export any "ex-military" weapons, i.e. L1A1s, original vz.58s, etc. Basically anything that was ever in service.

Wrong, they just have their own semi category that is separate from a "civilian" semi auto, but that was just a legal loophole to make us exempt from the EU directive while "enforcing" it in theory.
Both of these categories are shall issue.

>>65079461
>Also weapon categories changed so now for example you have to register a silencer.

That was already a thing in the old law, though.
Every suppressor was a category C weapon (accessory) so basically the same level as a bolt action - no permit, but subject to registration.

>>65078847
>How hard nowadays is to get a license in Czechia

tl;dr as long as you're not a criminal, schizo or in drug/alcohol rehab, you just get a slip from your doctor, pass a written test, shoot a couple of targets and that's it.

>>65079587
For all the kvetching about having a barrier at all, it really keeps the bottom of the barrel of society away from guns.
i.e. when some IQ 85 faggot road rages at a guy who cut him off in traffic, gets drunk and kills his wife, or some brownoid or junkie robs a rando or a gas station, there are usually 0 firearms involved.

Shit, if anything it's an inverted version of deep blue US states: law abiding citizens are packing heat, while the criminals are usually stuck with knives.

>>65079590
Oh nevermind I missed the
>export
part. But I'm not aware of anything on the books that would make that impossible, unless the target country itself has laws banning it (which is usually the case).

>>65076363
Lithuania has relaxed its full-auto laws over these past few years (more or less related to the start of the ground invasion in Ukraine). Now if you join the national riflemen's union, which anyone can join for a small yearly fee, you can go through their training and then you can apply for a category A license which allows you to get automatic firearms and suppressors. I've seen people bring their full-autos at the range, usually it's the CZ Bren 2 as it's quite affordable - about 2800 EUR (or about 3300 USD).

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Most recent haul; Norinco AKM, Walther PP with a can, P08 with a stack of repro mags and a stock

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>>65076405
a howa 1500 in .308 with a fat 24" bore will be ca. 1000 euros. 1/3 less if 2nd hand.

any good brand hunting rifles with longer bores (so no stutzen) will do too, if not shot hot. and those can be had very cheap. if you can live with calibers like 7x57 a steyr m72 can be had for a few 100s, with a solid 4x or 6x kahles.

and thats in every way better than a brand new ruger with chink optics.

>>65079590
did the autist use a chinese medicine doctor for his psych eval and his shrink didnt report him to the police for violent threats or some shit? did they manage to clamp down on that?

>>65079658
didn't*

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>>65078135
my gunsmith has his shop 5 mins from my range.
he is a fat huge guy who runs his shop like a bar. you go in, talk about guns, laugh about fuck ups at the range and swear at the lefty cucks in the gubbment. i often end up buying some ammo or surp rifles/pistols because he hands out candy, coffe and good stories. so i can justify my paranoid prepper guns&ammo stacking. now im sitting on a pile of ammo bought for prewar prices.

a good .223 option is the lithuanian ggg which is economic prized.

i remember myself panic buying new ruag swiss army for like 90 cents per shot 2015 when the nigger flush started and all .223, 9mm and 12/70 was sold out on austria. that stuff was grouping ultra tight.

>>65079612
>That was already a thing in the old law
Yeah correct, I am retarded. I kinda mixed things up a bit. They wanted to ban them after the university shooting but it did not pass.
>it really keeps the bottom of the barrel of society away from guns.
It's true most of the assaults/robberies and other shit are done with knives, blunt weapons or handgun replicas/airsoft guns. Illegal guns are usually in possession as a treasure and some kind of curiosity. You rarely hear about someone actuaĺy using it. Retards shouldn't have guns. Period.

>>65079587
I'm totally opposed to any sort of testing as a barrier because it would 100% turn into a de facto ban. At least in Finland. Technically since 2019 you have been able to apply for a firearm on reservist grounds or for sports purposes. The problem? Nobody actually set up any of the infrastructure for the reservist licences so for 4-5 years afterwards you simply couldn't get them. Now I have heard people have started getting them, finally, but I have 0 faith in the system. The current sports licencing system sucks balls yet could be so much worse

>>65079425
Sounds pretty much the same including: >>65079443
I don't know what happens when you fail but the major difference is the bajillion license types (8) limiting you to specific weapons for some like hunting but otherwise sports/collector's licenses basically allow you to have everything. You equivalent of the "extended" license is ass to get.

>>65079590
>What the fuck is this schizo lore lmao?
>Where did the "Ukrainian" part even come from?
Some guy's ass. Never really looked into this shooting and some guy just offhandedly said the shooting was done by some Ukie jew and since I never bothered looking into it properly that's what I remembered.

>- 5 license categories shrunk to 2 that correspond to all of the former
Based.
>- almost everything can now be done online
Over here police are fighting digitisation and considering our government and the ukie war, it's best there isn't an online database easily accessible to government/others so I'm ok with it.

>>65078287

co worker from former yugoslavia finds out im into guns:
"400 for an ak, 100 for an ammo box
300 for the rpg launcher, 100 per bang
250 for a yugo tokarev repro
everyone has one or two aks in a plastic canister filled with oil buried in the garden, just in case, you know.
i drive back home for a wedding next weekend."

>>65079690
The fuck is that shitbox of a safe lmao? I could open this with a screwdriver and a hammer within two minutes.

>>65079710
I don't live in a place with gypsyanons either, I could store mine on the fucking floor and they'd still be there when I get back from work

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>>65078287
the only cheap rifles left are carcanos.

>>65079636
that sounds lovely

>>65079644
very nice. that walther is pure 60s james bond sex with the silencer.

what ammo are you shooting the p08 with?

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>>65079719
I do have a couple of PPKs as well. None of the modern PPK/S bs, but good old actual PPKs.

Have not shot the Luger yet. I will probably load some light 9mm for it.

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>>65079710
>>65079714
I lived in the middle of Salzburg county, near Zell am See in the lovely city of Saalfelden. For a while my recidency was directly at the town hall square. this is where most of the towns bars are, where the country youth meets at friday afternoon and drinks/parties till sunday morning. You hear'em yell, smash glasses and sometimes you smell weed.
I had my car parked there one summer friday. came back monday morning. i left the windows open: nothing stolen (glasses, navi and cds left in the car), no beer cans thrown into the car, nobody pissed into it. man, was i disappointed.

>>65079706
How do you say based in one of the Yugo languages? I could only wish we had good access. After getting a license for weapons you have to buy individual licenses for buying one (single purchase, can at least be multiple weapons). Saving grace is it takes less than a week.

>>65079714
>>65079739
I mean you never know. I have gun in my wardrobe with ammo. But having a collection like this in some sheet metal closet is kinda crazy.

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FUCK I'm about to be bankrupt again.
Any info on whether/when these are gonna be available for Europoors?

>>65079805
It's just a legal requirement.
And it kind of makes sense, >99% of break-ins (aside from holiday cabins in remote locations) are crimes of opportunity and last between 3-10 minutes, some gypsy junkie isn't bringing an angle grinder to crack open your safe, he'll just grab any valuables he can find and carry and take off.

>>65079805
In Finland if you have 5 guns or fewer and no dangerous 11+ round baby killer rifle mags you can legally store your guns in a closet too as long as it can be locked
Storage requirements here make negative sense

>>65078123
UK needs a short paragraph saying why you need a gun, a short half hour cop interview at your home where you show your gun locker and just chill with a bloke and repeat that paragraph maybe once before talking about guns for 20mins.

Prior to that you need two professional referee's references proving you're responsible and to install a wall mounted safe.
The interview is easy unless you are a social sperg, finding a justification for the firearm is harder though, if you live deep in the city the only real excuse is firing range use or country shooting and you need 12 months prior range usage to prove you didn't just join one to get a gun for short term non premeditated murder.

You don't need a nanny state course though lmao, what the fuck NYC.

>>65079842
>no stock = pistol
>with stock=rifle
Jfc

>>65078100
>Backyard ballistics
Based. Also, italian gun laws sound really good for the european average. Better than here in France which surpises me considering boomers here constantly say the opposite.

>>65079856
Talking about the mag limits, doesn't the 11+ babykiller mags rule only apply to self loading centerfire guns for a year before you can get ERVA license? I remember that you could buy drum mags for 22lr the same day you purchased the gun because apparently 22lr is not dangerous

>>65080017
>for a year before you can get ERVA license
Yes but now there's practically a mandatory course hurdle too. It wasn't always this bad. Unless you do Falling Plates, which is fun, but idk how willing the cops are to give out ERVA permits for something that doesn't even require arbitrary hoop jumping

is somebody familiar with the brand Nuova Jager ( NJ ) Ar15 Solid rifles ??
how they performs ? and if they are worth it for the price

>>65080156
No but the name alone makes me think they're Chinese/Vietnamese made stuff

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>>65080156
>Nuova Jager ( NJ ) Ar15 Solid rifles
NJ is an italian company. They supply a couple of high sperg low durr units and their stuff is usually well made for the money, but I'm not familiar with this particular "solid" line. A friend of mine has 2 of their uppers and I haven't heard him complaining.

>>65079706
I remember talking to a guy online in Montenegro iirc, he had dug up I think his great grandfathers Gasser revolver that was buried when the communists took over.

He was twirling it around with the most beautiful mountains in the background shooting blanks. Since then I have held Balkan people very highly.

>>65079710
Most European countries are extremely low crime, I'm of the opinion safes are more about barriers to access for kids and to add some obstruction/difficulty for people having a mental break than stopping theft. I simply don't believe gun theft is that common.

>>65079867
>12 months prior usage
My local club is 6 months probation period. I never saw more than 9. Technically the probation is your "nanny state course" but instruction is usually like half an hour of whoever runs the club telling you club rules.

Also you can own obsolete calibre guns without a licence, but you can't shoot them (own ammunition) so it's more a collectors thing.

>>65080650
>I simply don't believe gun theft is that common.

See >>65079842
Targeted gun heists exist but are exceedingly rare and carried out by dedicated people who won't get stopped by anything short of a bank safe.
For the average burglar a gun is usually a liability (burglary charges are a meme but gun trafficking will put you away for a long time) and they rarely have the tools or the time available to crack open even a glorified sheet steel box.

nigger

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I liek dual tone Glock

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I had good times shooting in Europe when I lived there, was mega jealous that people had civilian MP5 versions which we didn't have in the US at the time. Wish I had made it to Czech Republic, but never did.

t. Texan who lived in 2006 france

>>65080678
I don't believe it's that common because where I used to live had two separate break ins and my rifle (not in a safe) was fine, but they did steal my neighbours bike.

Ram raids to steal guns I'm sure do happen, but probably not to individuals unless you're the kind of retard who tells everyone you meet that you've got a gun. As you point out, they are extremely rare and not worth the hassle for criminals.

Stealing a gun vs stealing a bike turns your community service into 5 years+ jail very quickly...

>>65080413
hi , thank you for feedback
but what you mean by "" high sperg low durr units "" ,
im interested because i was thinking about getting one for first Carbine

>>65080724
they make some rifles for some special units.

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>>65076354
I had my rifle course and guardex for the danish homeguard back in february

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXWaBN9YysQ
Bank robbery in Naples today and they briefly held 30 hostages. GIS intervened but sadly the robbers already fled in the sewers.

>>65080650
Where do you even find Gasser blanks

>>65081024
the slowest entry i have ever seen

>>65081051
I believe he made them. It's not that hard to get cases for most guns, I've got cases for guns that are 1 of 1 prototypes.

If you're just loading black powder into some primed cases I can't imagine it's tricky.

>>65081076
Gassers can fire .32 S&W Long so I guess they could be made from those cases too