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Is there a military advantage to using turquoise for your submarines?
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Black shows up really well in shallow water like the Med
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>>65077100
Fun
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>>65077100
This is supposed to be shallow water submarine so I guess it is supposed to be camo. Don't know why they think that the enemy is going to look at it with human eyes, but I think it might be the reason why it is so gay.
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>>65077124
>Don't know why they think that the enemy is going to look at it with human eyes

They can operate in extremely shallow waters including rivers, accidental discovery via sight is a distinct possibility as is being noticed by civilians.
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We need to bring back the flying circus colors of WWI airplanes. Every vessel unique and as absurd as possible.
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>>65077100
It looks pretty cool, which raises morale
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>>65077124
But shouldn't it be counter shaded then?
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>>65077182
An aquatic animal may miss that. How well does it work against aerial predators.
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>>65077100
It's one of the new flavors
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>>65077202
Yono's need mini VLS tubes with boosted MANPADs and a tethered observation bouy. No one on a SEAD mission looks UNDER inland waterways and lakes. They would be highly annoying. The sub could be simplified since it doesn't need to move very fast or deep even by mini sub standards and sonar detection is a non issue.
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>>65077182
Man, fish are cool. It still surprises me how big Bluefin can get. I don't know if they have any role in defense, but I like them
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>>65077259
*thinks*
Simplified Yono, it just sits at the bottom of a inland waterway/lake. Instead of torpedoes it has tethered bouys that are carried in the tubes. One is a sensor cluster and can recieve passive warning data. The others are 7 MANPADs with solid fuel boosters to extend the range. There is a compressor in the base of the bouy fed power from the sub, it provides nitrogen to cool the seeker heads like any other mounted MANPAD variant.

Why wouldn't this work?
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>>65077100
They wanted to paint it yellow but it was copyrighted.
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>>65077286
>Why wouldn't this work?
Lack of physical space in that tincan to fit seven IGLA sized MANPADS mounted vertically like a VLC? The towed array/buoy eating a HARM the moment it is turned on, leaving the sub blind? MAD exists?
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>>65077295
>seven IGLA sized MANPADS mounted vertically like a VLC
>Bouys are stored inside the 553mm torpedo tubes
>Ilga is 72mms wide
Math sure is hard isn't it?
Seven would fit into a single bouy inside the torpedo tube with no issue.

>The towed array/buoy eating a HARM the moment it is turned on, leaving the sub blind? MAD exists?
I mentioned no such thing as towed arrays and explicitly mentioned recieving PASSIVE warning and targetting data for the IR guided missiles while the sub was parked on the bottom. Please actually read posts before responding to them.
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>>65077286
Note multiple Russian aircraft have been shot down using this method with USVs although in that case they were using AA-11s which could also fit into a 533mm bouy although the bouy would stick out a bit.
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>>65077100
Is that your culture? I don't like it.
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>>65077263
>ManlyTearsShowsOffTheMinnowHeCaught.jpg
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>>65077182
>>65077263
Fun fact: There is a reason that animals living on the arctic ice (like polar bears) tend to have white fur while animals in the south Pole (like penguins) are black and white.

Why? They're actually very different biomes. Arctic animals are connected to land and their camouflage works to hide them on the ice, penguins don't have to worry about predators at all but they hunt in the ocean where for camouflage you need your underside to be white to match the light coming from the surface and your back to be black to match the deep sea.
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>>65077100
miku :D
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>>65077812
Yonos are so cheap and easy to make that i could honestly imagine a E-girl funding one.

>2028; Belle Delphine gets a torpedo kill
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>>65077100
>decide to give a new coat of paint for your sub to spruce it up
>choose your favourite colour
>immediatly becomes a magnet for nigger car stealers
This is why everyone buys their subs black
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>>65077100
Sort of makes sense when you remember the colour palette of communism, some kind of shitty turquoise green on everything
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>>65079794
The DPRK aren't commies they are a Monarchy and they have a special shade of Juche green that distinguishs them from the USSR snd PRC and.....and...And...


Yeah, even i can't keep a straight face. That shitty commie green sucks. They should just stick with olive drab and black with bits of dark tan.
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>>65077182
Counter shading is to hide from above and below, subs don't need to worry about visual detection from below.
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>>65080032
>subs don't need to worry about visual detection from below.
That's what YOU think.
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>>65079794
In the case of planes it made sense, turquoise was means-tested to be the best color for pilot mental balance.
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>>65080056
Maybe if the commies learned how to do switchology they wouldn't need to paint the cockpit a soothing color. Like holy shit their cockpit layout is utter shit on all of their aircraft.
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>>65080117
I read a translated interview with Pavel Sukhoi years ago
>it seems the cockpit design was an afterthough
>yes it was, we often designed a basic cockpit at the start and as things were added we would squeeze them in where they fit

Honestly I think they could have drastically reduced training times just by grouping by function.
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>>65080117
I think it perfectly matches the Soviet's value of human life how in every design, someone having to operate it is seemingly an after thought. Really though, are there any even post soviet machines that don't actively loathe the crew?
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>>65080215
I think they adopted hostile engineering as a doctrinal policy in order to keep people awake, annoyed and ready to kill someone in order to end the misery mission
If the occupant wasn't too hot, cold, wet, stabbed in the head by sharp burred edges, sitting like a fetus and starved. The sensation of being stuck in a steel drum full of gearbox parts, cabbage farts and kicked down a flight of stairs then they might be considering something else other than their here and now mission.
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>>65077100
That's some extremely specific area of operation if that is supposed to be better camo than just black.

>>65077182
Usually we skip painting the underside white since there are no optical sensors on the seafloor scanning for subs (As far as we know).
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>>65080215
Russians are just financially and spiritually destitute. The spartan nature of their machines reflects their peasant culture.

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