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>The European concern MBDA is likely assisting in the development and improvement of the Ukrainian long-range cruise missile FP-5, — Intelligence Online.
>FP-5 integrates key components of Western origin, including inertial navigation systems and interference-protected GPS navigation modules, similar to those used in the Storm Shadow cruise missiles.
>Support from engineers with experience working in MBDA structures made it possible to adapt the missile's digital control system to work with intelligence data in real time in the shortest possible time, and to largely correct some of the missile's "childhood problems".
>FP-5 can be called part of a broader Franco-Ukrainian industrial integration.
>This is also confirmed by the French interest in creating its own analogue of the FP-5 — Chorus project with the participation of Renault and Turgis Gaillard.
Seems to me like Germany is focusing on integrating Ukrainian drones, while France is focusing on the missiles.
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>>65077153
>french intelligence
so the missiles will divert to some african mudhut mid flight?
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>>65077153
>>Support from engineers with experience working in MBDA structures made it possible to adapt the missile's digital control system to work with intelligence data in real time in the shortest possible time, and to largely correct some of the missile's "childhood problems".

you know its bullshit incarnate when you read stuff like this
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>>65077170
At the rate that Russia is importing nigerians, that may just be an advantage
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>>65077170
That's actually an advantage, you'll be able to hit some senior RU commanders houses that way
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>>65077153
Anyone else think the Ukrainians should have used a pulsejet, just to keep with tradition? And to strike terror into the Soviet heart?
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>>65077170
>french intelligence
The French are the ones providing most of the intel since the Trump/Zelensky white house moment.
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>>65077262
This. Burgers don't get a say anymore. They cashed out their chips yet angrily yell at the dealer that everyone else at the table should stop playing hold 'em and switch to 7 card stud.
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>>65077254
They used AL-25s because they had shitlaods of those with minimal remaining lifetimes sitting around. And IIRC the replacement for when the stock runs out will be outright deisgned for mass production.
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>>65077262
>The French are the ones providing most of the intel since the Trump/Zelensky white house moment.
Thats still the US
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>>65077170
then the russians' pool of new recruits starts drying up
5D chess
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>>65077254
They were working on a pulsejet drone/missile called the Trembita.
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>>65077665
I think they dropped it. Simple pulsejets have terrible efficiency, and the complexity required to increase that makes them economically uncompetitive, compared to small turbines. Especially the hundreds of cheaply remanufactured AL-25s recovered from industrial dumps.
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>>65077375
Source?
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>>65077758
https://united24media.com/latest-news/us-intelligence-and-weapons-still-provided-to-ukraine-via-europe-rutte-says-17138
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>>65078729
That would be a severe violations of NATO sharing agreements. The journalist is retarded and probably does not understand what Rutte meant (possibly using using US intel to recoup European non-US intel which is a way to go around the issue since technically no US intel is shared with the Ukros this way).
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>>65078764
no it wouldnt? despite cutting most aid, the US still does direct intel sharing
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>>65077678
fuel is cheaper than lithium batteries and there is no shortage of those in the conflict

I think the real reason is the noise and performance. everyone would hear the buzzbombs coming, and since they're not super fast movers simple AA would be enough to foil them.

the real question is why hasnt iran built a billion of these things, especially with terrorism being their main goal. even if they didnt kill anyone, israel would be seething about the boom boom vuvuzela for centuries
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>>65078774
It has cut it off on more than 3 occasions in the last 2 years.
Ukraine uses it to supliment only ever since
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>>65079036
>Ukraine uses it to supliment only ever since
you have no proof of this, the fuck are you talking about
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The main issue with US intelligence use is that US leaks ukie requests to russia.
Ukies suspected as such even during Biden's administration, but had a concrete proof some months ago after running essentially a sting operation: they've created a fake "military operation" about strikes on specific targets in russia and tracked them themselves, then they've asked US for intelligence for striking those target and suddenly russians had acted on regarding all of those supposed targets.
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>>65079070
>the US was secretly leaking intel to the russians during the Biden administration
Somebody get diddy blud his lithium.
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>>65079460
I'm not sure how is this news to you. There were a ton of cases where shit got leaked or ukies got handicapped in a specific moment, such as the famous initial Starlink retardation from Musk. Need I remind you? Ukies had a large drone raid on the Black Sea Fleet planned in Sevastopol, with dozens upon dozens of drones, no major ships have yet escaped to Novorossiysk yet at that point, so the goal was to wipe out the fleet wholesale. And at the crucial moment not only did Starlink was disabled (supposedly "Musk feared World War 3" and shit), but russians got to know about the raid and moved more than half of the ships out to Novorossiysk.

It's just that up to a specific point people tried to find other explanations: Musk retardation, US pussyfooting with weapons, maybe russian agents spying about stuff - nobody likes to think that your "ally" is the one actually forcing you to fight with your hands tied behind your back. And yet things happened time after time, to the point that ukies did that "sting" and had definitive proof that any operation details can't be shared in the slightest. That's why Spiderweb wasn't shared for example.

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