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So what is the point of buying a 1911 these days? I've been thinking about buying one, preferably one of the better ones but they're all like $1000-$1100 minimum. Are they any better for defense than my cz 75b or p365xl? The capacity is much lower but I wonder if the 45 acp stopping power meme actually matters and make up for it. I certainly want one just so I can have one, but I'd prefer every firearm I own to still be practical. I hear 1911s are bitchier about maintenance and much of its function hinges on the extractor and that's essentially a coin flip out of the box?
Basically what's the point of the good ones are 1k minimum. I'm close to just getting one
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>>65077410
Could always get a double stack 1911 or 2011 in .45
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>>65077410
>So what is the point of buying a 1911 these days?
Because you want one.

>Are they any better for defense than my cz 75b or p365xl?
A gun is a gun, but no.

>but I wonder if the 45 acp stopping power meme actually matters and make up for it
Not to that extent. It IS a little more powerful, but there's better .45s to carry these days than 1911s.

>Basically what's the point of the good ones are 1k minimum.
You can get much cheaper Turk and Flip 1911s which are fine, they just won't be as nice as a $1000 one.
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>>65077410
>So what is the point of buying a 1911 these days?
its cool
>Are they any better for defense than my cz 75b or p365xl?
of course not, you dumb nigger
>stopping power meme
kill yourself
>I certainly want one just so I can have one
then buy one
>but I'd prefer every firearm I own to still be practical
thats retarded
>I hear 1911s are bitchier about maintenance
they're perfectly fine, new shit is just easier
>1k minimum
the price of a rifle, and its full steel, so what did you expect? accounting for inflation, that is basically what most quality ones cost anyway throughout the years

tldr: its an outdated relic

also, what the fuck is wrong with the captcha lately? this shit is annoying
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>>65077410
>1911
is .45 ACP
Get picrel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POr5rJ7NL14

https://www.yotube.com/watch?v=BkwjbQo16ZE
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>>65077431
2nd link (typo) corrected:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkwjbQo16ZE
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>>65077425
>>65077429
alright i guess if i get one i'll just get the czolt
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>>65077410
>all like $1000-$1100 minimum
Poorfag problems
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>>65077410
>So what is the point of buying a 1911 these days?
fun
>Are they any better for defense than my cz 75b or p365xl?
Absolutely not retard
>the capacity is much lower but I wonder if the 45 acp stopping power meme actually matters and make up for it.
get over your practicality larp faggot. You already own multiple guns, it doesn't matter anymore.
>>65077431
USP is better
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>So what is the point of buying a 1911 these days?
Because it's cool. Same with revolvers.
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>>65077410
1911/2011 trigger is undefeated even in 2026. The mechanics of it are just superior.

.45 ACP is fun to shoot, I love the muzzle flash it makes. Kimber now makes an affordable .45 2011 in the Warrior DS line. I built my own before Kimber released it.
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A 1911 is the American peacetime katana.
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>>65077489
The 1911 has won more medals of honor (1911 specifically cited in the MOH citation) than any other small arm in American history. Many citations end with “X drew his 1911 from his holster and advanced on the enemy” or made their last stand.
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>>65077454
>is better
Wrong.
first video in post replied to proves that
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>>65077520
No it doesn't.

>USP looks better
This is an indisputable fact
>USP is better
Another indisputable fact
>USP has better capacity
Yet another indisputable fact

maybe if you're a handlet who dropped Glock because you love fingergrooves, then the dogshit HK45 is for you. For everyone else, USP is the GOAT
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>>65077410
Buy it for the 2 world wars feels rather than any practical application. It's a comfy gun, it is iconic and it's nice to shoot. That's all there is to it.
>Wanna spend over 1k on a nice one
I actually recommend going the entire other direction. If you spend a lot you'll expect a lot. High $$$ 1911s tend to be stupidly tight for better accuracy but end up having reliability problems. OG milsurp 1911s work but they also rattle because they are so damned loose.

The winning combo is a basic bitch cheap 1911 like a Tisas or an RIA but with sights bigger than just the old GI pattern. A lot of the "muh 1911 isn't accurate" complaints come from people trying to rapid fire with tiny sights that are hard to see let alone align.
Also if you spend less money up front you'll be less disappointed if you need to do a little bit of troubleshooting later.
>But muh 45
The only acceptable calibers for a 1911 are 45, 38 Super or 10mm Auto. Do not cuck out and get a 9mm one. It's just not the same.
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>>65077541
HKs are cool, but every one I've handled has felt like a brick and the trigger had left a lot to be desired.

I'm of the firm belief that 1911s are evergreen classics, and every red blooded American should have one in 45 Anti-Colored Person.
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>>65077475
>1911/2011 trigger is undefeated even in 2026
The FCG is extremely conducive to crisp and short triggers, yeah, which is why even cheap 1911s have pretty good triggers, it's easy to do.
If a 1911 manages to have a bad trigger, then there's probably something seriously wrong with its manufacturing.

>>65077489
You mean, an old, but culturally important legacy weapon? Sure, you could say that, and it's one which still ain't so bad.
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>>65077541
>walloftextCope btfo
Wrong. Keep dilating
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>>65077498
I think that says more about the recipients themselves, they would have pulled it off with any other good sidearm.
If infantry combat gets to the point that you were compelled to draw your sidearm, that probably means shit has turned very ugly, so if you made it through that, and more importantly you actually rescued some of your bros in the process doing so, you're not just any ordinary soldier.
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>>65077410
I've owned about 15 different 1911s of almost every major brand.
The one I had the best luck with was Springfield.
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>>65077550
this is all true but the USP 45 carries 12 rounds of .45 Anti Colored Person and never jams. That makes it a more fitting gun to actually use. Everyone should own a 1911 anyway.
>>65077554
Cope with what? I don't own a cheaper, inferior gun?
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>>65077561
For all the hate they get as a company for their dirty business practices Springfield Inc. 1911s are actually good.
>But they're made in Brazil
Only some older discontinued models and those were made by IMBEL, so they were even better. It's shitty that SAI tried hiding the import marks under the grip panels and heavily implied in their advertising that these were still an American product but at least it wasn't a bad one.
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>>65077576
Definitely agreed. I do think that 1911s can be doggedly reliable, but really depend on the maker, and using quality magazines. Most of the issues I've seen come from budget magazines and shitty extractors plus utter lack of cleaning.
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>>65077593
>I do think that 1911s can be doggedly reliable
Without a doubt. My Dan Wesson has never jammed, and is a joy to shoot. But...if my life is on the line, I'm choosing my USP 100% of the time.
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>>65077576
>I don't own
any guns = (You), nogunz
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>>65077623
We've been over this many times already, delusional HK45 defender.
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>>65077615
What model and year is your Dan Wesson? I've heard issues of their quality control in recent years, but with that said, I love my DWX. Also have an old DW revolver that has a phenomenal trigger.
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>>65077629
While you have your gun out, can you please coerce captcha to stop being so slow? Today's been a drag.
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>>65077629
>HK45 defender
? 1. I'm not 'defending' anything 2. HK 45 mogs every other handgun conceived designed or manufactured on Earth
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>>65077637
>What model and year is your Dan Wesson?
Specialist
>year
2022 I would presume since that's when I bought it, but idk
>I've heard issues of their quality control in recent years
I have heard the same, but I've never heard it about .45 guns, or experienced it first hand. All I know is my experience has been great
>Also have an old DW revolver
I'm jealous
>>65077643
It's ok HK45 defender, I can understand liking a shit gun just because you think it's cool. I'm a big fan of the S&W 39 even though that gun is nearly as useless as the HK45
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>>65077649
Those specialists are killer. I'm on the lookout for a Wraith in 10mm, the fabled centimeter.
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>>65077649
another nogunz textwall
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>>65077410
>So what is the point of buying a 1911 these days?
fashion statement. Guys will get mad if you point this out.
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>>65077643
If you frequent this forum, then you would be WELL aware that there is an hk45 shill that constantly gets his ass blown out by rational people.
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>>65077629
NTA but I have a similar pic that I wanted to share
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>>65078202
>planetside 2
You.... quit at BR 20 didn't you.
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>>65077410
The progression of the weapons enthusiast ownership
Child, fathers shotgun and 22 and family heirloom sword/flintlock
Young teen -mall ninja, wall hangers, boot knives, machettes, throwing knives, slingshot
Late teen - switchblades, knuckle dusters, cut throat razors, auto knives, monkey fists, side openers, gravity knives, nunchucks, air rifes and pistols, crossbow pistols, sai, katana, balisong, archery, recurve bow, compound bow
young adult tactlarp, lasers, stupid ninja 10/22s, cheap wonder 9s, ARs with a stupid redot, magnifier, light, laser, foregrip bipod etc

Pause for college and partying

Next comes functional, so your crap glock, pump shotgun, bolt rifle with a scope, less ridiculous AR, may be 'prepper' or anxiety induced around when the first kids arrive

Enjoying shooting phase, precision rifle, reloading, large cal revolvers, quality 22, bench rifle, nicer steel frame handgun often involves veering into DIYish zones like stock bedding

History Phase
WW1 and WW2 milsurp bayonets/swords, different types of actions, 911s etc, then transitional rifles and bayonets, side by side hammer guns, then civil war rifle muskets rifles and swords, then napoleonic muskets pistols and swords, pepper boxes, pocket pistols, and then 17th century (matchlocks), oriental arms and armour talwars, dahl, katar, kinjal, papered katanas, forms of daggers.Often builds up a library of books at this phase.

Zen phase
Reproduction flintlocks and percussion guns, percussion revolvers making black powder, casting lead, then antique guns loading and shooting them including hunting.May buy a cannon,tank,etc

Final phase
Pursues desperately beautifully made guns from all eras, drillings, percussion match rifles, english shotguns, big game rifles, mint sniper rifles, brescian flintlocks, cased english dueling pistols, wheellocks, weapons of historical provenace

It appears you are entering your historical phase. Don't fight it get a 1911. Two world wars. Nuff said. Enjoy
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>>65077410
>he thinks you NEED a 1k+ 1911
You can get a cheap one and replace the parts that are in every single 1k+ 1911 for like 100 extra. Used 1911's are plentiful too, it's like the anti-glock where replacement parts are cheaper than factory ones
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>>65078133
>'i-i know who that is by the pixels'
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>>65078133
>'i-i know who that is by the pixels'

>assblown
= (You)
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>>65077555
Faggot ass post, the point was that the 1911 is not some peace time katana.
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>>65077410
Its the weapon that will win World War 3.
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>>65077410
They're a classic.
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>>65078495
>>65078498
hk45 defender is mad. Why?
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>>65078665
keep coping nogunz
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>>65077410
You sound like a faggot so you should stay away from 1911s completely, you're not built for them.
>I'd prefer every firearm I own to still be practical
Why? Why does it bother you to own something that isn't a minmaxxed brown obliterator?
>essentially a coin flip out of the box
You literally just lightly bend it inside the firing pin hole until it works perfectly, it's the most insanely simple "modification" to perform after spending approximately 6 minutes watching youtube videos. Ditto the sear spring. Could not be easier.

There is nothing challenging or magic about maintaining and tuning a 1911, if you're not up for it just stay the fuck away from them
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>>65077424
Those aren't really a thing. Double-stack 2011s are all pretty much 9mm.
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>>65078717
Slide, mag, and barrel swap they can be .45, 10mm, .40 (most older ones are .40), .38 super, any 1911 caliber

The problems that plagued the 2011 were because they were made to be in calibers larger than 9mm and also 9mm at the same time. The same mag body has to feed the short 9mm rounds.

Kimber’s 2K11 comes in .45 and so does their lower end Warrior DS comes in .45 and 10mm.
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>>65078585
Will buying a 1911 get me a thicc red head?
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>>65078756
Can you prove to her it's better than her glock?
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>>65078717
Go back to bed, kid
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2011s are the lightsabers of the gun world.

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