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I offer no excuses or caveats.
Anyone else?
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They're fucking gay. investment cast ruger bullshit parts and they're still expensive for no reason. The gun was engineered to be as cheaply made as possible and yet you pay a premium to not have an AR15, even 5.56 AKs from overseas are less expensive
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>>65078686
They are cool, they were invented to cost $400 in the 1970s when a Colt AR-15 was $1,000. The problem is that nowadays though you can get a working AR-15 for less than $500, and those Mini 14 cost $1,200-$1,800. In short, they don't make much sense to anyone who isn't a collector of cool things.
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>>65078686
They're fun.
>>65078704
You're poor.
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>>65078718
>price differential
True but in the mid-1970s an SP1 cost $600
it was after 2010 that Mini-14s began to climb in price (due to ban state shenanigans)
Mini-14 is slightly tragic, in that if Ruger hadn't poorly engineered and designed it as part of their cheap-rifle >>65078704 line it could have been a really nice little rifle. They are fun to shoot, but not as accurate as other 5.56 rifles. It is a cool idea (5.56 cross between M1 Carbine, M14) but badly executed.
Maybe another manufacturer can do it properly someday. 5.56 Garand (ping!) would be nice also
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>>65078816
>execution is fine
No, it is not. Mini-14 is shabbily designed and engineered. (the 'fixed' newer ones are passable and phenolic stock has improved it slightly) Bedding design for the forend/barrel into the stock is flimsy, and contributes to the barrel-whip overheating problem. Basic action is mechanically sound and reliable, but cheap cast parts.
>$900
Not worth it. You could get them at $400 or less all through the 2000s. It's a four hundred dollar gun.
>magazines
Might ? be the 'best' overall part of the design, and the rock-in (that many people kvetch about) isn't bad either.
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>>65078799
>it was after 2010 that Mini-14s began to climb in price
True, anyone who got one after the fixes but before the price hikes is very lucky.
>Mini-14 is slightly tragic
The mob in the 20th century and the South American militaries who bought the pre-fix design didn't care that it was a 6 to 8 MOA design. The rifle saw plenty of success.
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>>65078686
They certainly are neat, no fault in that.
>>65078704
That is also true. I suspect Ruger really doesn't want to make them anymore and hasn't for a long time. They just increase the price year after year until orders stop and they just haven't yet because the market for everything that shoots 5.56mm but isn't an AR is getting increasingly expensive and limited at the same rate.
>>65078768
This too, the price gap between a Mini-14 and a good used M14gery is narrow enough that it's hard to justify not just getting a Big-14 instead.
>>65078830
The cast parts are fine, the barrel harmonics issues were partially addressed by the retooling around 2008. Heat management is the remaining problem because it dumps gas right inside the handguard and vents it up past the barrel just behind the gas block. This is fine for a basic plinker, but severely gimps the rifle as a precision rifle which should not matter, but being a $1000+ 5.56mm gun a higher degree of accuracy than minute-of-trash-can is expected. In slow fire it can do it, but after a mag or two forget it, budget PSA15 at best (which is still a massive improvement over old pre 2008 models).
>>65078898
They look cool and the LOP is pretty close but they feel like ass. Get one if you just want the Mini-14 as a LARP gun (which is perfectly fine), get a Choate folder or stick to the factory plastic stock if you want to keep it practical. I'm sure there are other stocks too.
I'm totally getting an A-TM stock if I ever get another Mini-14 because I would only buy it as a LARP gun.
>>65078910
I miss the one I got when I was 19. Sold it during a gun panic for enough money to buy a Garand and a used car though, so I shouldn't complain.
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>>65079027
>They just increase the price year after year until orders stop
The orders aren't going to stop. Some states banned the AR 15 but didn't ban the Mini 14, so people are forced to buy it despite the extremely high price of most non-AR 15 guns chambered in 5.56.
>the price gap between a Mini-14 and a good used M14gery is narrow enough that it's hard to justify not just getting a Big-14 instead.
Some people genuinely want the low recoil that comes with an intermediate cartridge (or to save some money, shooting .308 gets pricey).
>I miss the one I got when I was 19. Sold it during a gun panic for enough money to buy a Garand and a used car though, so I shouldn't complain.
It's unlikely you'll ever find one priced fairly again.
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>>65079049
I live in a gun friendly state nowadays so they do pop up south of 700, but I'm not buying unless it's an updated model. Nobody has one of those because only the old models that locals bought 30+ years ago are floating around. I might buckle and buy an old model if it's around 500 just to drop it in the side folder and mag dump garbage piles, but I really shouldn't. I'm spoiled for choice getting even better guns for less money.
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>>65078686
Based.
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>>65078686
I agree and will go one step further: the Ingram rifles in my picture were decades ahead of their time and would do extremely well if they were offered today.
308 takes FAL mags, 7.62x39 takes AK mags, 5.56 takes AR mags.
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>>65079147
Idk what’s happening with this site. I posted the first one an hour ago, it never appeared, so I posted it again. Why do posts take an hour to appear? Happened yesterday as well.
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>>65078799
>not as accurate as other 5.56 rifles
I believe the mini 14 is explicitly *not* 5.56. It's .223 which, I realize fits in all the same holes, but the chamber dimensions aren't identical, so while a rifle chambered for 5.56x45 can fire .223 cal without ill effect, the reverse is supposedly not true.
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>>65078686
SKS beats them in accuracy and reliability. If only someone had made SKS in 5.56x45mm or even 6.5 Grendel.
Anyways, does anyone know of a pistol round that use M193 and other 5.56/ .223 BULLETS for itself? I have seen some that look close but aren't quite what Im looking for.
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>>65078686
The SKS is a better weapon. If only they made variants in 5.56 or even grendel. And if only my post didnt get fucking eaten.
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>>65079199
You could go to their website right now and see it says 5.56 NATO not .223 Remington. https://ruger.com/products/mini14/overview.html
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>>65079235
>SKS is a better weapon
This
if you want a 'small rifle' that's Garand-like
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>>65079183
Maybe. All I know is that throughout the late 90s-early 2010s they were 400
>>65079163
4chan was switching servers the past two days
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>>65079027
>but they feel like ass
mine had insane stock wobble, like 5-degrees of it. samson said it was normal lol.
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>>65079027
>heat management
>barrel harmonics
As posted ^^^^^above those aren't the sole problems. Basic engineering design problem of the gun is that the bedding of action and barrel to the stock is flimsy like a toy. If it wasn't, then the gas venting/heating wouldn't have such a pronounced distortion effect on the barrel and resultant extended-firing accuracy. Shoddy
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>>65078686
They're fine.
>>65078704
Fag.
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>>65079637
5.56x45mm is comprehensively superior to 7.62x39mm, the Mini-14 is has better sights and is more accurate, and also has proper detachable magazines of 20rd and 30rd capacity.
You can also mount an optic to a Mini-14 (or Mini-30) and have it actually maintain a zero, which often isn't the case with an SKS.
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>>65079199
Literally wrong. Almost no .223 or 5.56mm marked rifles on the market are actually .223 only these days (and haven't been for a very long time), and one of the rare outliers isn't the regular Mini-14, but the special Mini-14 Target model, which is explicitly marked .223 only because it has a proper .223 chamber.
Unless a gun is explicitly labeled or/and advertised by the manufacturer as .223 only, then it's going to have some type of common hybrid chambering meant to accommodate both.
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>>65080775
Nigger, shut the fuck up, 7.62x39mm is for poorfag and underdeveloped countries who couldn't justify updating to a good and modern cartridge that doesn't suck.
The Russians and Chinks left it behind for imitations of 5.56x45mm because it was objectively superior.
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>>65079883
i inherited a pencil barrel, added a strut and it shoots fine
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>>65079637
>weighs as much as an M1 rifle
>nowhere close to the same power and range
>much worse sights
>much worse reload
The SKS was good when it was dirt cheap, but when it's gone up in price its inferiority is glaring.
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>>65080813
No matter the price SKS will always be superior to the Mini-14, kek
in durability alone
>glaring
18 is the minimum age to post on this website, nogunz
>as much as M1
Wrong.
>worse sights
Wrong.
>reload
Wrong.
>power and range
Few rifles have as powerful a round as .30-06, also the SKS recoils less than a Garand
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>>65080827
The vast majority of SKS rifles do not have detachable magazines, outside of janky old duckbill mags. Rare Chink SKS ones taking AK mags exist, but enjoy paying even more for that.
Also how the fuck have you not learned how to properly load an M1? Palm the fucking oprod, you retard, and it's faster and smoother to do than with an SKS.
>>65080839
>SKS sights
>good
Inbred and alcoholic opinion.
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