>>65079234
I will never understand the autism around this gun. Why it so special? Is it just games and childish nostalgia? I mean its cool, its a gun right? By why do people just keep going on about it?

>>65079275
It's rule of cool. As a general rule of thumb, ANYTHING that HK makes that isn't the MP5 is a hunk of hipster shit.

>>65079275
the sole fact that hk couldn't import it for years made people want it more, plus video games

>>65079275
First worlders own guns because they are cool, and the MP7 is fucking cool. That is literally it.

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>>65079275
As a select fire weapon, it's cool.
Like all 'pccs' in semi-auto only it's gay

Speaking of gay the U.K. MOD special-ordered the MP7SF (semiautomatic-only variant) two decades ago because in England cops can't have actual guns

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>>65079234
Behold, the SP-7

>>65079275
Me neither and I say that as HK fag. Doesn't even look as good as MP5. The hype is purely because it was not available for so long.

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>>65079275
Its because people are unaware that the UCP exists.
>inb4 it gets released in a couple years as a companion gun just like P90 and FN Five Seven.

>>65079400
I love to give my hostage rescue team a rock and roll switch so that they can easily spray the entire room with lead.

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>>65079275
It's rare and you could only now get one, and for a lot. Also that H&K lust.

>>65079400
>As a select fire weapon, it's cool
FRTs soon, hopefully.

>>65079474
I think the MP5 and G36 are both a lot cooler (and probably much better) weapons, but there's still some cool factor to the MP7 itself. The prototype with the flush muzzle and no rails was MUCH cooler though.

>>65079480
Wow, the Five Seven but even worse!

>>65079482
Or, you know, exercise some fire control. Are Brits incapable of doing that now?

>>65079480
I'd actually purchase this more readily than I would a semiauto neutered MP7.

>>65079474
I'm not a big fan of the MP7 (for a modern small "pdw" might prefer a select fire MP9) but appreciate it for what it is. It's light weight and is designed like a magazine-in-grip G36<--which I'm even less of a fan of, not one of HK's finer moments but the MP7 remains best of the three 1990s polymer receiver designs, for a shorter-barrel small firearm (that works less well with a long barrel rifle with trunnion mount in polymer receiver, and doesn't matter so much for the UMP which is just a blowback pistol cartridge gun).

>>65079502
Op here. Took me a while to get back to the thread. I think the problem with the small caliber high velocity pdw is that except a very few situations a compact 5.56 gun with a good suppressor, something in the 10 inch barrel range will still outperform the pdw and is barely bigger overall. The cost of the platform will never justify in my mind the performance at the end of the day. Man it looks fucking cool on paper and sounds logical but the whole concept is fundamentally flawed. Giving some folks mp5s and others m4/whatever 556 carbines will always make more sense. I am an American and I love all guns the way a millenial sperg loves all Pokémon but I won't say a Squirtle has the same power as a Charizard.

>>65079614
Not a fan of compact (shorter than 20" barrel) ARs or the M4, rather have an AR-180.
As to 'outperforming the pdw' as said above, I'd just go for a select fire MP9 that is the best small submachine gun available. Semiauto pdws don't make any sense, to me. Have a handgun that gets you to access a full length rifle. I don't understand the "pdw" 1990s NATO concept being re-applied to American suburbians in the 21st century. Either get a select fire submachine gun, or don't.

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>>65079480
And after that, they'll release the G11

>>65079400
>in bongistan even the tyrants enforcers get cucked
grim

>>65079627
The whole reason the G11 failed is complexity. which means bringing it back would mean gross simplification and abandonment of features. I could see them trying a 5.56 gray box bullpup gun and maybe try a p90 style magazine. Even that though is pushing it and HK already has a perfectly fine service rifle to offer

>>65079639
It failed because the USSR collapsed.
The Germans suddenly had a larger population and had to rebuild half their country. No money left to purchase their newly adopted rifle.

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>>65079639
>already has a perfectly fine service rifle to offer

>>65079400
it was the mod constabulary, who are a special little police force tasked with the security of nuclear facilities. the variant was for them only, because the labour minister in charge decided that fully automatic did not consitute reasonable use of force.

the british government hates britain more than anything else.

>>65079480
it doesn't, it never got out of prototyping because 4.6 doesn't do shit out of a barrel that length.

>>65079848
Yep, tighter bore means it hits pressure faster

>>65079275
It's a pretty gun? Plus the PDW was always a cool concept even if it never really made sense

>>65079234
>Semi-auto
For what purpose

>>65079632
Happens all the time in authoritarian shitholes. But this happening in a democracy is extremely funny.

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>>65079234
It's cool and it's a teeny weeny centerfire rifle with a 40 round mag, what else do you need?

>>65079480
The Five SeveN makes sense because you cano't fucking holster a whole ass P90 in your hip, even if its super tiny and meant for carrying, its just not hip gun-shaped. You have to sling it.

The MP7 however is literally pistol shaped, it is already its own sidearm. Why the fuck would you make a pistol for your pistol? If anything HK are dumbasses for taking this long to sell the MP7 in a pistol version.

>>65079275
>looks cool
>doesn't weigh much
>AP round
>not much recoil
>tiny
>SF likes them

>>65079486
>>65079234
A machine pistol with a compensator would do just fine. As would a bullpup assault rifle. As would anything firing 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Because its only good against soft body armor and does nothing against ceramic inserts.

>>65079234
Wonder who they bribed to get around the "non sporting" rifle import clause. Unless they're letting jaquon and cleetus fumble fuck them together state side.

>>65079419
Gayer p90

>>65079234
I would maybe be excited for this if the ammo wasn't ~70cpr or maybe if it was chambered in something that I can reasonably shoot a lot of.

>>65080007
>Wonder who they bribed to get around the "non sporting" rifle import clause.
By far the gayest fucking law on the books, and that's saying something when the NFA exists.
>Unless they're letting jaquon and cleetus fumble fuck them together state side.
They've done it in the past. I'm willing to bet these are US made with plastic shit that prevents them from being compatible with the original parts (like the UMC vs UMP).

>>65079419
Hehe

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>>65079419
This

>>65079863
FRTs.

>>65080406
If it was select fire you could shoot even more of it and HK would get rich. But they don't want to be rich

>>65079275
It has been proven inferior to Pussyfuckerchad90 by NATO which made German clitties leak to the point they torpedoed the NATO standard PDW keeeeeeek

>>65080425
PSA is putting out their MP5.7 (some name like that) which is literally a clone of the MP7 in 5.7. This effectively smacked the Germans into some semblance of awareness, and now they're trying to sell one of their best guns stateside.

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>>65079639
Fucking no. The entire premise of the G11 was a hyperburst of SCHV to attempt to maximize hit probability, which is why the design is what it is from top to bottom.
There's nothing worthwhile to bring back.

There were multiple things wrong with the gun which there were no real good way to fix (complete lack of meaningful obturation, fragile ammunition, etc), and the Bundeswehr dragged their feet for years, hoping H&K would go away and stop trying to pawn off the piece of shit to them (they really did not like it), with H&K aggressively networking and lobbying to try to force them to adopt it.
Reunification gave them a really convenient excuse to nix the fucker for good, and forced H&K to come up with a conventional and sane 5.56mm rifle.

>>65080713
can you not sound so deranged and disgusting, thanks

>>65080752
Impossible.

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>>65080747
>Reunification gave them a really convenient excuse to nix the fucker for good, and forced H&K to come up with a conventional and sane 5.56mm rifle.
Pic

But i would like to see how Interdynamic MKR would perform on the same range firing 50 rds continuous burst with a single trigger press...

>>65080780
Probably not appreciably better.

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>>65079234
>HK finally stop being tards and release the gun
>just in time for the faggot dems in my cuck state to throw an extreme melty and fuck with our laws
I hate this gay earth.

>>65080821
I think it actually hijack the rules, first round sure it would be around the same but then you have another attempts within same trigger press that legally count as single engage...

BTW i am thinking. You can replicate tests with full auto 22lr (there are plenty of such rifles). with scaled targets. 1/3 size target at 100 meters will approximately replicate firing 300 meters with 5.56 at full size target.

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>>65079234
Fuck this gay ass gun and fuck H&K. 36 grain bullets at around 1900 feet per second and only 3 to 4 times the cost of 5.56. I for one love the idead of paying 3000 bucks or more for an overrated 22mag made by Islamic gun haters at H&K.

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>>65080944
Its good when its full auto.
Otherwise doesn't makes sense.

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>>65079275
>childish nostalgia
>mp7
You people are way too young.