>>65191052
it never was

>>65191052
it always was

>>65191052
it never wasn't

>>65191052
Meh, it kills "changing consumer habits" that break into your home with the intent to violently assault you.

>>65191096
it always will be

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>>65191096
>>65191265
for all eternity

>>65191052
double stack .45 is too big for my Asian hands.

>>65191052
Yeah

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9mm is preferred by pros on the streets

>>65192070
>9mm is preferred by pros on the streets
no, that would be the glawk fawty u dunce.

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>>65191052
Tum.

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>>65191102
It can single handedly defeat a Tiger I tank
saw the documentary

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>>65191052
Secret Latina fetish thread?

>>65191052
marry me sochi!

>>65191052
I dunno but it's the only round I call out between shots and imagine my target explodes when I shoot, so that has to count for something

>>65191052
Why is a Latina not carrying a .38 Super?

>>65191774
2011 .45s have the same side-to-side width as 9mm 2011s.

>>65191052
Xochi is love
Xochi is life

Why shoot .45 Auto when you can shoot .45 Super?

>>65192508
>45 Super
All they did was increase the velocity, not necessarily the bullet weight, which is why it failed. 45 Super should've specced a 300gr bullet. We like .45 because it's big and slow.

>>65191052
I bet her pits are tasty.

>>65192515
>which is why it failed.
Lurk moar.

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>>65191052
Damn right, only documented kill of a TIGER tank by a pistol. Better than a Sherman.

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>>65192515
>not necessarily the bullet weight
https://www.speer.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/jacketed-handgun-bullet/19-4481.html
Learn2handload

>>65192237
PUTA
U
T
A

>>65192237

>implying my appreciation for latinas is secret

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>>65193250
Fair.

>>65193347
Me, cleverly disguised as a tissue paper.

No. 9mm is. There's a reason it's become a default.

>>65193815
Because most people can't shoot for shit? Cops and soldiers included.

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>>65191052
I used to shoot almost exclusively 9mm but it's been about 50:50 with .45 after I got my mk23.

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>>65191095

>>65193815
.40 S&W and .45 ACP are the two best semiauto handgun chamberings available for self defense, carry and urban CQ combat

>>65192508
Hot take, one of the best things about .45 is that you can get it in heavier and larger guns which helps shrink the difference in felt recoil between it and the "good enough" crowd(doubly so for people with XL hands). Hot rodding .45 is a step in the wrong direction outside of maybe some hunting or large game defense niche uses, even that's debatable considering how well a 255gr +p hard cast works for those uses.

>>65194275
(amazing) /k/ anon that knows what he's talking about

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For me it’s still Sheryl Crow.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KIYiGA_rIls

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>>65191233
Checked and it was literally developed for this purpose (well, drugged-up Filipinos, but basically the same when piddly .36 cal wouldn't do much more than irritate them)

>>65193815
>normie opinions matter
>McDonalds is the best food
>Bad Bunny is the best music
Unironically kys

>>65194275
Multiple PDs reported that the 185gr +P outperformed standard hardball in their guns (plural of anecdote is not data etc.)
Though the original "dum dum" was a 200gr +P soft point, Speer makes a decent approximation of such with their modern G2 Gold Dot projos, haven't tested one yet but things might get a bit Planet Of The Apes this summer so we'll see.

>>65192237
I would democratize her/10

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>>65191052
Nah get your ass some jet fires, love me some 25 acp

>>65194840
I keep seeing people talk about Bad Bunny but I've not ever heard of them, I dare not search.

>>65191052
Reminder .45 does more damage in Enlisted than 9mm (.30 also does more damage than 7.62)

>>65194866
Of course it did. It’s broadly agreed upon by users and wound ballisticians that JHPs, many of which enlarge wound volume by 100+%, are substantially more effective than FMJ. But caliberlets and poors will screech “SOURCE??? WHERE’S THE DATA???” as if it weren’t self evident that a 0.8” hole which dwarfs two 0.32” holes stacked next to each other, is in fact more effective than a single 0.32” hole.

The way to get that 0.8” hole is to use 230 gr +P HST BTW. Gold Dot G2 has somewhat better post-barrier performance but one of the advantages of .45 is that it doesn’t need to make major concessions in performance against unprotected targets to work passably against auto glass to begin with.

>>65194956
Nah get your 45 outa here ya smuck 25.acp is the master race bullet, hell its perfect for home defence if that is what you are using it for and compact enough to be a good concealed carry

>>65194969
25. ACP is pretty effective for defending against a home yes, would question its form factor though.

>>65194956
Are the HSTs better than the Rangers? The +P 230gr Ranger rounds expand up to a full inch(!!) in gel. Not sure how that translates to real world performance if at all.
There's a morbidly curious part of me that wants to run something like a 300gr lead SJHP in as hot loaded a case as possible just for sheer lulz. The fireball and recoil would be nasty af but the terminal effects would be even worse.

>>65194983
The issue with the numbers on the expanded Rangers is that they’re counting the signature talons behind the leading meplat of the bullet. It’s believed that those talons may not contact tissue fully or at all for much of the path length because the temporary cavitation from the leading edge pushes the flesh out of the way.

Now when the bullet slows down and the TSC becomes smaller towards the end of the track the talons do help, the bullet is likely to have already traversed through most or all vital tissue in its path by then though.

HST tends to be a little larger when discounting the talons and historically also more consistent lot to lot, it seems the latter advantage may be eroding a bit (maybe Federal hasn’t kept on top of their replacement intervals for their skiving machinery) but generally I would still trust the HST more.

But honestly not a big difference, it has been remarked that the +P loadings of 230 gr Ranger-T are fast enough to expand the projectiles at close range even with a bad lot of ammo.

>>65195000
Digits confirm. Thanks anon, I must be a boomer at heart ig cause I didn't get to live thru the "Black Talon" era but I love the idea of super instant death bullets.

>>65194866
Have you ever heard the phrasecorrelation does not equal causation (its a nerdy phrase I know). It wasn't the fact that the bullet being lighter made it better; it was that hollow points were better than soft points when those departments decided to make the transition.

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>>65191095
fpbp glockchads mog boomerslop low diff

>>65192237
>>65194053
kek

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>>65194053
>>65195293

I still prefer 9mm because it's used on several different types of guns but .40 S&W and .45 ACP are neat in their own right
I like 40 out of a USP and 45 on a 1911 or a USP is great
And I would like to get a FN 545 or even a Glock 21

>>65194983
I'd be cautious with winchesters ranger products in general. The first hurdle is making sure you're getting the right variety, of which there have been 4 or 5 different projectile designs marketed under the ranger name. Assuming you're looking at real ranger-Ts then you've got the issue the other anon mentioned about the questionable advantage of the talons given their location much of the time. On top of that and the bigger deal breaker for me is that the ranger-t is MUCH more prone to failures to expand than the HST. Also I've seen plenty of tests of hst where expansion ranged from .8-.9" iirc. Then there's availability, price, and QC to consider. The 230gr HST is more readily available, cheaper, and federal has had very few issues with that line of products.

As tempting as the memes are it's really hard to justify the rangers over the HST IMO

Nope, beaten by .45 Colt yo. Old school!
Magnum it up to levels that make .44 mag look mild.

>>65191052
.45 is for schoolgirls, .454 casull now that's a round with some chest hair

>>65195933
Is that why literally fucking nobody uses fuddslop rounds?

>>65194925
james bond ruined 25 acp for me

>>65191052
No. 5.7x28mm is objectively the best round out there right now. History is a flat circle. FN has been at the forefront of handgun technology every single time.

First to have a slide.
First to build pocket semi autos and develop the 25 ACP with JMB.
First with a high capacity 9mm in the hi power.
First with the 5.7x28 expanding upon the benefits of 9mm while increasing it's lethality.

FN has done more for handguns than any other company tbqhwy. 25 ACP, 32ACP, 380ACP, 5.7x28mm all exist because of that single company.

>>65197253
Your mom ruined pegging for me.

>>65196447
>literally
back to plebbit, deadass zoomlet

>>65196400
There needs to be a 460 1911. I don’t care if only .1% of the global pop could get their hands casually around the grip.
I would just like to know it exists.

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>>65191052
I love the abundance of surplus ammo. Recently got into .357 Sig but not my EDC

>>65192237
¡Ay caramba!

>>65197253
Why? James Bond media portrays the fantasy that agents with perfect shot placement will always beat people using better guns and that .25 ACP, .32 ACP, and .380 ACP are good enough.

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>>65198220

>>65194834
>it was literally developed for this purpose
Well, its even in the name.
.45 Anti Colored People

>>65198386
This is getting out of hand!

Now, there are two of them!

>>65191052
Not with 45 super around

>>65198386
Soft, plush, kissable lips.

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>>65198421
You got that right.

As to why I prefer 45 Anti Colored Person over lol10mm

>Much easier to find subsonic ammo for suppression.
>45 +p, Super, and 450 SMC cover a lot of applications.
>Proper 45 hollow points expand dramatically.
>As a red-blooded American of WASP heritage, it's my duty to carry it.

>>65191052
Still relevant if shooting suppressed

>>65193944
sick mk23 anon
not sure how you got one in australia though

>>65194753
Lance Armstrong had had sex with her

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>going to pick up my USP45 Tactical from the lgs tomorrow

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>>65198583
Paid the price of phoneposting.

yeah for suppressed fun

>>65198386
Who?

>>65199729
>he doesn't recognize Sochee and Moner

I'm canadian. I don't care what caliber it is, I just want a handgun. .22LR target pistol, sure. If news dropped tomorrow that we could buy 9mm glawk I would be jizzing myself for the rest of the day. What I am saying is, I appreciate caliber autism, but please be grateful for what you have and thank god every day for what remains of the 2A

>>65199796
Recognize from where?

>>65198623
Airsoft LAM lmao
No shade getting the real deal costs more than the gun itself

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>>65200847
Yeah, it was only on there for a couple pics. I've had the lobos adapter and the x300 on there the vast majority of the time.

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>>65200746
Places.

>>65198612
Nice! I have an elite, it's awesome. Need to get a USP40 as well, I foolishly chose glock over h&k back when they were all $250 copsurps and have been kicking myself ever since.

>>65199819
what are gun rights like there?

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My bedtime sleepy time gun. Have this sitting with about 5 mags. 10 rounds of 45 when the standard 9mm has 17 round mags has gotten to me. When I find a 9mm as legendary I will buy one.

>>65202372
Excellent.

>>65198595
We should all be so lucky; '90s Lance Armstrong was a GOD.

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>>65191052
Yes it is. It's heritage runs back to the 1847 Colt Walker 10" barr'l designed to kill indian ponies at 200 yards. They shrunk it to .31 caliber in miniature = 1849 Colt pocket Model. (very low power, lousy accuracy) Then came the in-between .36 cal. 1851 Colt Navy Belt pistol.
Then the US Army had to have something kill a man at 100 yards = 1860 New Model Army. (called a .44 cal. but used.451 slugs) Then they went BP cartridge for the 1873 Single Action Army.
The US Army then switched to some .38 bullshit Model 1892 and that is what they had when they lost 400 soldiers to philippine rock-monkeys dual-wielding sharpened putty knives an wearing bamboo armor.
THE BEST WHITE MAN EVER LIVED = Blackjack Pershing who used the telegraph and rank to get all available .45 cal 1873s shipped over. THAT settled their hash. When came time for a semiauto they shot (dead) hanged guys, pigs and steers at the Chicago Stock Yards until they decided 350 pounds of KE + .45 slug was just right.
Not a fan of sword attacks and can't bullshit around with No Gun Zones or cocksucking lists of CCW holders. Viola = 3" Barreled 1860s reworked for 1849 Grips and grip frames. Green lasers and witches brew in the firing chambers. 180 grain pure lead slugs.

>>65198574
.45 ACP is the original 300 BLK

>>65191095
>>65191096
The duality of man.

>>65192237
It's criminal what Moner did to her face. Worse than being bogged.

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>>65196447
>fuddslop rounds
alrighty, milksop, what are you gonna do without 72 different 25acp sns or the stopping power of muh tew wurld wers (and counting) against the nigger so high on drugs he's bullet proof? Very likely scenario and you don't want nigger ghosts tryna haunt you, they bring down the property value

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still waiting for a Plus (built-from-factory) update of this

>>65201258
like?

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>>65191052
white man's cartridges:
>.22 s/l/lr
>ayceepees of the 25, 32, and 45 variety
>9mm luger (gun dependant)
>6.5x55 swedish bikini model (sneedmore can take a hike)
>8mm Mauser (self explanatory)
>6.5 carcano (cook-a da pizza)
>7.62x54r (gets a pass because of the finns)
>.223 (only time zog was ever right)
>tree fiddy seven and turdyeight speshul (wheelguns are the white man's property ONLY)
>all shotgun bores (get off my property coolie)
>muzzleloaders (a meditative art)

cartridges unsuitable for Yakuub's (PBUH) children
>40 swishers & watermelon (self explanatory)
>380 ayceepee (useless middle ground between 32 and 9mm)
>7.62x39 (co-opted by lunchtime rowdies, fallen from grace and should be pitied)
>tree oh eight (nato garbage retard round, should've standardised on 6.5 svenska. why? fuck you that's why.)
>6.5 sneedmore (take a hike)
>30-06 (used to defend bankers and gypos instead of wrangling them like 8mm)
>303 brit (british)
>300 winmag (i have only ever seen this purchased by indians and genetic defectives)

list subject to change

>>65203578
> bravissimo!!
God speed to you for this post!
i have to ask, how well do those two handle and is there any difference in balance between them, statically and dynamically?

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>>65206649
Based beyond belief

>>65206649
8mm Mauser is a loser cartridge

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>>65208788
welp, dubs don't lie, 8mm is a 'groid cartridge now, pic rel

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>>65192237
>Secret

>>65194969
>>65194981
Is this bait

>>65192232
qrd?

>>65204214
i havent kept up on moner lore. say it aint so anon, did she fuck herself up?

>>65206649
>hating 7.62 nato
commie shitskin detected

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>>65213102
>7.62 nato enjoyer revealed

>>65213102
it's some ivan who is made he's losing

>>65198289
>Why?
In 'Dr. No', Bond is returning from nearly being killed in 'From Russia with Love' when his .25 Beretta snagged in the holster. M and Boothroyd tell Bond the .25 is perfect for a ladies' handbag, take it away, and force him to adopt the .32 Walther PPK (they were right desu).

>>65192515
45 super didn't fail, its just not necessary for most situations so it never became mainstream. The extra blast and recoil aren't always worth it and you don't need 700 ft/lbs to poke holes in paper. Its a fun novelty to go through a few mags of roided out 45s but its not necessary for it to be an all the time thing.
I load 185g JHPs to 45 super for my USP

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>>65206705
Just the scratches on the barrels. They aren't consecutive sn numbers they are a dozen off.
All parts interchange so think of the beneficial effects = troubleshooting is greatly simplified,
First thing was after setting hammer down on new cap it refused to cock or advance = locked up. as held in sighting position - inside reciever a link comes off trigger and has a tricky little leaf spring/feeler gauge stock -part that when hammer is let up a short sturdy dowel pin can slide under it and "clink!" get under the tiny flat spring >>> and push on the pawl/hand that turns cylinder. >>> no cylinder turn = no hammer recock-ee.
I hope that makes sense! I bought a new teeny set of diamond Harbor Freight files and also their $10 rotary kit. The tiny leaf spring's trailing edge has a curve that makes it easy for it to turn around and push the short dowel it just clinked over.
Ever since no more problems. Even after cutting OEM trigger grip frames +main leaf springs shorter.
Each is a porky 40z/1.13Kg. They intentionally remind me of a son of sam special I used to have. My sister used to borrow it when working late. I will never forget the gratitutde and relief in her eyes when she blasted a bed of creek mud with it one time. There was mud and shit still coming down out of the trees 5,6,7 seconds later. Shit went ever where when100 fps 180 grain .44 hollow bas-loaded-backwards hit. Left a cool ring of lead around entire 1 foot crater. These both make craters withing an inch of green dot.

>>65191052
for cheaper subsonic rounds and 2k suppressors

>>65214756
How would .45 super "fail" anyway, its not a new cartridge its just .45 acp but much higher pressure. Its like saying 9mm +p+ failed

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>>65206705
Shout out to this white bro for causing these two to be built. Any man who ain't a sheep would want me to build them a brand new pair and put together another accessory box replete with all needed supplies except raw lead.
Get some real synthetic wheel weight lead and when the Care Package arrives get the Twins loaded. Seriously the only bummer of these kind f pistols is unloading/safe-ing them. You are about forced to fire them and empty them.
Wild Bill Hick fired his little .36 Navy 1851s every night and reloaded them. Sword Attacks: We Been Here Before =.45 = White Man's Caliber.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/sPW92mCUnxHg/

>>65215916
Hum. Nobody noticed that that 180 grain LEE molded bullet only weighs 150 grains, eh?
Those two you see me handling much are "Cerrosafe" primarily Bismuth and non-toxic,
(Handling them might improve you diarrhea)
(Pepto-Bismol = Bismuth)

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>>65191052
9mm was reintroduced for female police officers.

>>65215826
nicely done!
the work you've done is beyond my abilities.
btw, love the Son of Sam ref.

>>65215916
i'd put money in your hat for at least one.

>>65216953
It was my cheapy college buddy. Gun in pocket book or two in backpack kickstart the 750 make some noise and smoke, beach chair on sandbar, Once a fuckin big TV CRT just went bobbing merrily down The Kaw. Took two shots rewarding pop.

Anyway SOS was cheap then. Nobody else wanted one.

>>65193815
No it's because people, even if they aren't poor, are still cheap.

>>65198574
147 gr 9mm mogs the absolute fuck out of .45 when suppressed. They're both subsonic, but .45 has much more powder and a bigger hole, this means much more gas exiting the suppressor faster. .45 is not a quiet round when suppressed. At all.

>>65217652
>babble
Wrong.

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>>65191052
>.45 ACP
>automatic colt pistol
>not automatic
?????

>>65217652
>147 gr 9mm mogs the absolute fuck out of .45 when suppressed.
You are retarded. A 147-grain bullet will never hit as hard as a 230-grain bullet with the same velocity.
>.45 is not a quiet round when suppressed.
Let us know when you get to shoot a gun for yourself rather than regurgitating whatever bullshit you probably read on Reddit.

>>65217652
Bait used to be believable

>>65206464
Like the hit live action movie "dora the explorer" lil nigga

>>65216975
Just want one. Destination: someplace in the US, I presume.
Plus you HAVE to have all the goodies to pamper them beginning with an ultrasonic cleaner. I am like any army on earth
"clean" guns pass white glove test.
THEN you re-oil them. Reloading them is a solid PITA until such time as I make a stand to hold them upright.

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>>65217652
Are 9mmfags now making up their own fuddlore now that they're the new "ALL YA NEED SONNY" group?

>>65218143
>hit

>>65198421
"people"