>>65198796
Why is the criminal section included in the screenshot? Are you trying to encourage criminal behavior?

>>65198796
Where's the fun in that?

>>65198796
>NVA men hit with lower doses retaliated and had to be shot, and NVA men who had been darted with higher doses died from overdose

The original source says:
>The SOG men were compelled to gun down the NVA hit by darts or watch helplessly as they died from the anesthetic.

>>65198796
Sure, I'll just ask the fucking wizard who can do that without even seeing the guy they're dosing.

>>65198796
You know how it's said "it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end"? Anesthesiologists make fat stacks because making sure that people wake up again is the tricky part.

>>65198796
Aside from body mass, there's a high chance that the target is on fent, meth or both, and it's hard to accurately guess what dose and what combination he's on when he's running at you with a knife.

>>65198796
Because a person's weight
a) can be difficult to estimate
b) doesn't stay constant
Not to mention the possible interactions with other drugs and medications. Oops, the guy you tried to snatch lost 10kg in the field and had a buddy smuggle him a beer earlier this evening, and now he's violently overdosing

>>65198796
It says it right in your pic. Dosage differs by weight so a tranquilizer for one person might be a death sentence for someone else.

>>65198796
It's very hard to pre-calcuate the dose because there's a very fine line between being quick-acting enough to be effective yet not lethal. On top of that you probably don't know the target's body mass or if they have any tolerance to the drug in question. People who are hardcore opiate addicts can barely feel a dose that would be lethal many times over to a normal person.

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>>65198796
It'd be total bullshit but a smart tranquilizer rifle that somehow scans it's target and tailors it's dose accordingly would be some cool cyberpunk shit

>>65198796
It may legitimately be possible with something like ketamine that has much less of a respiratory depressive effect.

>>65198796
in addition to all that has been said, even in surgery, in optimum conditions, it takes an average of 5 seconds to KO the patient
hence even if you achieve perfect delivery, the guy you shot has about five seconds to yell FUCK I'VE BEEN SHOT RED ALERT GLOWIES IN THE WIRE

>>65199506
>running at you with a knife
This assumes that tranquilizer-carrying police wouldn’t be allowed to carry firearms. I assume they would, simply because it’s already a well-known fact that tranquilizers aren’t appropriate for every scenario. Taser-carrying police are allowed to carry firearms, so why wouldn’t tranquilizer-carrying police be allowed to?

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>>65199577
These inherently meter out the proper dosage of Pb and KE at distances < 10m, lol.

>>65198993
Inferring

>>65198796
It's extremely weight dependent. Also a dose that provides near instant incapacitation while likely need an antidote administered, or at least CPR or an Ambu bag.
It seems odd they didn't think of the latter.

>>65198796
Why use tranquilizer lmao. Use PAVA, use pain to incapacitate. Pepper spray and pepper balls use this exact principle, a dart is just a better way to inflict it on the target.
A blowgun is enough to get a sharp dart through even leather jacket and skin, a CO2 rifle could be accurate at a relatively long range, though the projectile is subsonic.

>>65202173
Because it doesn’t work. If it did, wildlife conservationists would be using empty darts to incapacitate animals.

>>65202322
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAVA_spray

>>65203714
What would a dart filled with chemical irritant do?

>>65199612
>it takes an average of 5 seconds to KO the patient
Only through the IV route. I was sedated in the ER and it took minutes to take effect.

>>65205895
It would be extremely painful

>>65207695
>Not refusing anesthesia
Ngmi

>>65207993
The doctor tricked me into taking it. She just said “Get up” and I got up. The she gave me an injection without telling me what it was. Then she said, “Ok, you can lay down now.” I didn’t realize it was a sedative/anesthetic until I started to feel lightheaded a minute later. It was completely unexpected, as I wasn’t sick or injured and I wasn’t behaving violently. They just don’t know how to deal with people who are suffering a mental health crisis.

>>65208016
That is very much a common thing in ERs, especially city ERs where the average mental health crisis is just a homeless guy suffering from withdrawals. Doctors often default to the easiest thing for them, which usually is just sedating anyone who isn't fully cooperative.

>>65208020
Are you sure they don’t just get sexual pleasure from sedating people?

>>65208273
I'm sure there are some sociopathic doctors but most doctors actually want to help people but just become jaded like cops do because they have to deal with a lot of shitty people if they have to work in a city hospital.

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>>65208016
I was having a cervical dissection done, and half way through one of the surgeons said "get up" so I shot up off the table and tried walking around the room. No damage done just thought it was funny how it was like a hypnosis trick.

>tfw watching the video and realize my throat was wide open, esophagus and trachea were bent like paper clips and my cervical discs half drilled out but I'm sitting up like the fucking undertaker trying to get to mankind

>>65207736
For you

>>65202173
>>65207736
How is that going to help you silently capture an enemy officer?

>>65208288
Based

>>65208281
my cousin's in the NHS, his mates have all left and he's the last one standing, because they're sick of the rapefugee grifting
one of them threw in the towel because he had to treat Syrians who don't work and yet receive enough gibs to go home to Syria on the excess cash

>>65208273
>>65208281
Wait, I get sexual pleasure from fictional characters getting drugged to sleep. Am I a sociopath?

>>65198796
Kneegrow it's a wholeass medical discipline to put down people who want to be put under. Tranq darts and knockout gas are capeshit, when people try that IRL dudes die.

>>65210577
I wonder how many times it's been tried? The only examples springing to mind are one or two hostage situations where the authorities weren't trying all that hard to keep anyone at all alive.

>>65198796
>>65211228
I hate how we’ll never know what the outcome of the guy in New Zealand holding his wife hostage was.

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>>65210469
More likely a psychopath.

Dr. Schlomo here
Not much to add to the conversation /k/ is actually pretty reasonable on this particular medical topic.

Any sedative strong enough to knock someone out quick enough when injected intramuscularly, which is what a dart does, is potentially strong enough to kill them. Even if you managed to get them down without killing their respiratory drive you would now have to drag a body around and triage them constantly. Probably better just to gag and drag at least they can walk and breathe.

>>65198796
You can't. Every human is wired differently. Different height,weight, sex, build, age, race. And you still haven't considered congenital diseases or allergic reactions. And you still haven't considered individual behavioural patterns when it comes to sedation.