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>>65200391
how could I ever forget it?
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>>65200408
why make a gun that will take an entire production line just so an handfull of americans will buy it ? the sole reason why there's a civilian G36 is because the german army and a few others have it so plenty of civilians want it too.
nobody wanted the G36 except one country in SEA that banned gun ownership, a bunch of gamers and movie enthusiasts purchasing it won't make enough money to warranty an entire production of it.
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>>65200391
NEVER FORGET
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>>65200428
The XM8 is just a G36 in a different shell. Making civilian XM8s would be less effort than making the SL8, which required a redesigned single stack magwell due to the assault weapons ban. Plus, HK clearly isn’t hurt by selling ludicrously expensive civilian weapons, as evidenced by them selling civvie PSG1s in the 80s and them continuing to sell civvie 416s now even though nobody buys them
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>>65200451
It's not that they couldn't, it's that they don't care. They'll do it if they feel like it, and won't if they don't. They seem to be one of the few that have enough military contracts that they can get away with it. The one company that probably truly doesn't give a fuck about their civilian whales and just sells them overpriced shit to laugh at them.
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>>65200456
I remember being blown away with immersion during the first battle you get into in some tiny 2-3 house village in BC1. From the sounds of the gunfire to blowing a hole in a wall to get into cover to the echos of my HK416 when I was shooting indoors. Everything after that I just feel has been going downhill.
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>>65200446
It was the worst of the series but still decent. I did never play Denied Ops though and apparently that was even worse.
Vietnam was tits. Both Desert Storms were great. The first game was more technical and difficult than SOCOM at various points.
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>>65200485
I think game development has stagnated because they realized the initial profits are there no matter what they do.
Graphics are better, but not mind-bendingly so.
Solo campaigns are basically dead.
Innovation is dead.
They just try to appeal to a target audience with a rehash and rebranding of the last offering that made money, with tiny improvments. And push it out flawed, so paying preorder players are basically their testers. Then do critical updates for flaws and make you pay for the DLC that should have been included in the game.
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>>65200451
80s HK was a different animal and the PSGs were made in Germany before 922r requirements and other issues.
The 416s are made domestically for the most part due to the US requiring domestic manufacture for DoD purposes. It's why they're here as is and why they're easy to get. To make a proper G36 or XM8 they'd have to either setup a chain to export it in gimped form and then remake it similar to how the Scar17 comes into the US, pic related, or setup actual production here. The G36 is at this point, a legacy product with no future.
While I hate HK for being cucks and find a lot of their official excuses weak, the XM8 would be a dogshit product to bring over for a lot of reasons. Only thing they can do legally and make financial sense at this point is export parts
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>>65200557
You have decent points but the could ship actions over and then install them in US made receivers.
The could even do metal or poly clamshell depending on what the market asks for.
If your "receiver" is made in the US import/export becomes much easier, at least on the US side.
They wouldn't even need dies made until they say sustained demand, you could do additive manufacturing for both poly and metal for an initial run of ~1000 each, still see a profit and use that to fund die making.
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>>65200674
why are all of their mags empty?
>>65200706
BF3>BF4>BC2>BC1>BF6 (I haven't played any others)
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>>65202336
Because it's a parade.
>>65202354
Reading comprehension, anon.
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>>65200557
>80s HK was a different animal
correct, that 3 other anons on this board actually remember
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>>65200391
There was some talk about S5 Tactical possibly recreating the XM8.
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>>65200456
> Bc2
>First match
> Enemy IFV bursts trough a wall and starts blasting
>That BOOM BOOM BOOM
Damn that was impressive at the time even tough my pc was so shit that i only could play it on the lowest settings
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>>65204935
>Bf3 didn't have exploits
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>>65200391
those were the days
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>>65200549
Major studios lost their souls once big investors realized how much potential for profit was in the industry. You make a movie, people pay to see it - then what? You sell toys and fast food tie ins?
You can do that with a game, but keep selling tiny additions to it without having to make a full blown sequel and use that to fund the sequel.
The one good thing is that digital marketplaces make it much easier for small and indie games to get purchased.
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>>65204105
That would be amazing, but my biggest gripe with S5 Tactical is their association with GSG9 and Todd Bailey.
I really want a proper G36 and XM8 for the US market that everyone can enjoy, but I'm afraid many will suffer as they usually do under Todd's influence.
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>>65205627
okay that's cool and all but the real chads were out playing other novalogic games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe6yPz4znTc&list=RDqe6yPz4znTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZX9TaoAF78
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>>65205738
Wasn't a flight sim gamer
Played flight simulator II on hercules and some fighter game where you shot 6 triangle shaped rockets, that was before the internet. I had no idea what I was doing for these..
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>>65205664
So what's the story about Todd Bailey and Tom Bostic? I've only heard bits and pieces.
From what I can gather/remember, Todd Bailey owns GSG9 and would sell the G36/UMP parts to Tom who would handfit, package, and sell complete guns from his website, right? But I remember hearing something about Todd trying to steal Tom's designs and manipulate him by threatening to cut his supply of parts? There was also some of that drama going on with the MP7 clone, wasn't there? S5 is now selling GSG9 made guns, but what happened to UO Arms? Weren't they supposed to do G36s as well? I'm guessing dealings with Tom and Todd went sour, Tom wanted to wash his hands of it and sold everything to UO Arms, and GSG9 is now working with S5 Tactical and they're potentially competing against each other?
I have several Tommybuilt guns including one of his XM8s, but I've been totally out of the loop on all of this for the past couple years.
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>>65205924
You can get the whole story on HKPro by searching GSG9 or Todd.
This is a pretty informative thread:
https://www.hkpro.com/threads/tommybuilt-the-t7-gsg9-and-youtubers.577 599/?post_id=4197818&nested_view=1# post-4197818
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>>65200391
Would there be any point taking this over the G36 besides being able to spin it as somehow American?
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>>65200391
>teenager, only gun knowledge is vidya and Mack
>oh man, look how modular it is, you can turn it from a sniper to an LMG to a compact carbine in seconds!
>so much better than that garbage outdated M4
>years later, actual experience
>realize the M4 was just as modular for fucking decades at that point
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>>65200391
It's got a very late 90s early 00s rounded plastic "blobject" aesthetic. In term of operation how close was it to the G36? Because on the surface it seems like an attempt to pass off old goods as new.
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>>65200391
I never forgot
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>>65210991
H&K took a hard, "Fool me once..." stance after getting dicked by US import and German export laws in the 80s.
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