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I understand the primer is a largest source of lead exposure, are there lead free primers? If non, why not?
Do you regularly make sure to de lead yourself and your clothing? Do you get your lead levels checked?
Do you take measures to decrease your lead exposure?
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>>65200453
I just shoot outside and pretend everything will be fine.
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>>65200453
Whats so bad about peanut butter?
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>>65200467
Lectins and aflatoxin
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>>65200453
I'm pretty sure Fiocchi was working on some lead free primers but it could've been someone else
>>65200458
this
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>>65200453
>are there lead free primers
Yes, at least Sako and S&B make ammo with lead free primers
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>>65200479
>>65200508
I assume they're probably a lot more expensive, maybe even less reliable
A big police department or something adopting rounds with lead free primers would probably help a lot with econmemies of scale
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>Federal, Fort Smith, and Fiocchi all produce lead free primers.
>total metal jacket, total plastic jacket, projectiles without exposed lead, and non lead projectiles are commonly available
>shooting outdoors dramatically reduces lead exposure and traumatic brain injury from overpressure.
>Wiping off your hands, face, and firearm with de leading wipes helps tremendously as does wiping off your footwear and washing your range clothes in de leading detergent.
The easiest thing to do is not use lead primers and exposed lead bullets. It's more expensive but most people don't shoot much so the cost increase is marginal.
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great-grandparents grew up with lead pipes, lead paint, asbestos, etc... lived to be 90. average person nowadays dies at 70 from a super stroke
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>>65200566
They didn't eat the ultra processed slop or use a dozen drugs.
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>>65200453
Don't shoot indoors, don't shoot with a suppressor, don't eat while shooting and handling firearms and wash your fucking hands after you're done shooting and you'll never have a problem with lead poisoning
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>>65200453
Don't chew on the fucking ammo and wash your hands, you'll be fine. Retarda like you treat lead like it's cobalt-60 or some shit. Fun fact, most agricultural products exceed whatever lead level CA sets for human consumption because it's a naturally occurring substance and the amount they deem permissable means 90% of all crop land has too much in it. Do you pump your own gas or are you too scard of getting a drop of petrochemicals on your dainty skin?
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>>65200904
>this post brought to you by elevated blood lead levels
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Lead is dripping from power lines all over america left in place but out of service. Like, a LOT.
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>>65200530
>traumatic brain injury from overpressure
huh?

>>65200965
Why.. did you mention America in particular? Weird.
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>>65201174
>Why.. did you mention America in particular?
NTA, I don't think other developed countries have that problem.
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>>65201193
True, in Europe gypsies would have cleaned that shit up immediately.
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>>65200453
>are there lead free primers?
There have been lead free primers for well over a century.
>Do you regularly make sure to de lead yourself and your clothing?
No, other than throwing my clothes in the wash with my other clothes and showering once per day.
>Do you get your lead levels checked?
Once per year, by my employer.
>Do you take measures to decrease your lead exposure?
Yes. Wet tumble your brass if you reload, shoot outdoors, and don't eat your ammunition. Washing your hands after shooting or handling bullets is probably a good idea but I often don't bother.
>>65200566
>great-grandparents grew up with lead pipes, lead paint, asbestos, etc
All of that shit is still in most houses built before 1970 or so. The paint was only a problem for kids eating paint chips in public housing projects. Asbestos isn't a problem unless you fuck with it. As for the lead pipes, while your house may not have them, there's a decent chance that the piping that your house is connected to is still lead, depending on where you live. It's not an issue if you buffer the water to be slightly alkaline which any sane water company or municipality does. Flint MI demonstrated what happens when you don't.
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>>65202240
>don't eat your ammunition.

Ok now that's a bit too much to give up.
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>>65200453
I had an idea for a type of ammo that is literally rubber bullets but instead of being for less lethal use it’s for indoor and lead free practice shooting
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When I quit smoking cigarettes years ago I started smoking a pipe so it would be really inconvenient, worked pretty well. Anyways I'd use a spent .308 casing to tamp the tobacco in the pipe and I feel much more dumber since then
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>>65200508
In that case i guess the primers come from RWS. Beretta companies like to circle jerk that way.
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>>65200453
>Post-Transition Metal
Is there anywhere I can get some non DEI lead for the next /pol/ meetup?
I need something that can make it past the chud detectors
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>>65200965
This is one of the stupidest posts ever.
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Just wash your face and hands with d-lead and don't sleep in your clothes idiot.
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>>65204291
sorry chud, the majority of metals are transitioning or post-transition and the dozen who are pre-transition are terrible at being bullets.
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>>65200453
It's a ploy to keep ammo expensive so you won't stock it. When it becomes ubiquitous they will outlaw the lead stuff.
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>>65200453
Nobody on this board shoots enough for this to matter.
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>>65205201
Lead free primers also degrade faster, meaning there is a quicker expiration date on any ammo that is stockpiled.
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>>65205228
True
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>>65204632
I'm going to shoot up /pol/ with sodium bullets and neither you nor physics is going to stop me
that place is 90% salt anyway, I doubt they'll even notice I'm there
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>>65200453
>are there lead free primers
There have been lead free primers for ages (combined with TFMJ bullets for zero lead exposure).
They're just a bit more expensive so people don't use them.
The Czech military has started using them in 9mm, not sure whether 5.56 and others are planned.
One cool thing is that the nontox ammo results in basically zero fouling. The empty casings look like they came out of the factory.
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>>65200453

Ever since working at a gun range, I've gotten my lead levels checked every couple of months. I use the respirator they provide and use the lead wipes after cleaning. My levels haven't changed much
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My life isn't valuable enough to worry about lead related health issues. Either I become a based retard, or get alzheimer's later on. I'll just kms atp
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>>65200904
>dont chew on the ammo
But it causes more damage when you do that tho
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>>65208331
Go to ukraine then
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>>65200470
phytates as well
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>>65200453
lead ain't a joke. try to shoot outdoors when you can, use a facemask rated for lead, use lead wipes to clean off your gun, and have range specific clothes that you segregate and preferably take them somewhere to be cleaned instead of using your washer.
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>>65210589
oxalates, too
kidney stones suck
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Even after wiping the ammo with de lead wipes for 10 minutes the swab still shows there's still lead on it. How???
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>>65212392
Most brass contains a little lead in the alloy. I don't know the exact ratio for the brass alloy used for cartridge cases but it can be as high as like 5% for other applications so I'm sure there's a good bit in your standard brass case. A 9mm case weighs about 4 grams meaning it could have 200mg of lead in it. Those test strips are testing for trace amounts, usually micrograms. It's probably always going to pop positive on brass. Try it on a brass key or door handle and see what happens.
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>>65200453

Plenty. Fiocchi makes them, I have a full 1300 primer brick I got for handloading. Most of their ammo is made with them too.

>>65202302

There was a company making primer-only .38 Special gallery loads like this back in the 70s or 80s. You could even reload it by hand by pushing fresh plastic bullets into the case after repriming it.
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>>65200627
>don't shoot with a suppresso
Not sure I can go back to the booms of my shorty 223, any extra advice for shooting suppressed?
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>>65200453
Unless you're huffing fumes and chewing on it, or just not washing your hands after you handle guns and ammo, then you'll never have to worry about lead poisoning. You would know that if you owned and fired guns.
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>>65214670
Ok retard
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So you wipe your firearms with delead wipes? Does it damage the finish?
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>>65200904
1. The dose maketh the poison
2. Learn about acute vs chronic toxicity

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