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I understand the primer is a largest source of lead exposure, are there lead free primers? If non, why not?
Do you regularly make sure to de lead yourself and your clothing? Do you get your lead levels checked?
Do you take measures to decrease your lead exposure?
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>>65200453
I'm pretty sure Fiocchi was working on some lead free primers but it could've been someone else
>>65200458
this
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>>65200508
I assume they're probably a lot more expensive, maybe even less reliable
A big police department or something adopting rounds with lead free primers would probably help a lot with econmemies of scale
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>Federal, Fort Smith, and Fiocchi all produce lead free primers.
>total metal jacket, total plastic jacket, projectiles without exposed lead, and non lead projectiles are commonly available
>shooting outdoors dramatically reduces lead exposure and traumatic brain injury from overpressure.
>Wiping off your hands, face, and firearm with de leading wipes helps tremendously as does wiping off your footwear and washing your range clothes in de leading detergent.
The easiest thing to do is not use lead primers and exposed lead bullets. It's more expensive but most people don't shoot much so the cost increase is marginal.
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>>65200453
Don't shoot indoors, don't shoot with a suppressor, don't eat while shooting and handling firearms and wash your fucking hands after you're done shooting and you'll never have a problem with lead poisoning
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>>65200453
Don't chew on the fucking ammo and wash your hands, you'll be fine. Retarda like you treat lead like it's cobalt-60 or some shit. Fun fact, most agricultural products exceed whatever lead level CA sets for human consumption because it's a naturally occurring substance and the amount they deem permissable means 90% of all crop land has too much in it. Do you pump your own gas or are you too scard of getting a drop of petrochemicals on your dainty skin?
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>>65200530
>traumatic brain injury from overpressure
huh?
>>65200965
Why.. did you mention America in particular? Weird.
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>>65200453
>are there lead free primers?
There have been lead free primers for well over a century.
>Do you regularly make sure to de lead yourself and your clothing?
No, other than throwing my clothes in the wash with my other clothes and showering once per day.
>Do you get your lead levels checked?
Once per year, by my employer.
>Do you take measures to decrease your lead exposure?
Yes. Wet tumble your brass if you reload, shoot outdoors, and don't eat your ammunition. Washing your hands after shooting or handling bullets is probably a good idea but I often don't bother.
>>65200566
>great-grandparents grew up with lead pipes, lead paint, asbestos, etc
All of that shit is still in most houses built before 1970 or so. The paint was only a problem for kids eating paint chips in public housing projects. Asbestos isn't a problem unless you fuck with it. As for the lead pipes, while your house may not have them, there's a decent chance that the piping that your house is connected to is still lead, depending on where you live. It's not an issue if you buffer the water to be slightly alkaline which any sane water company or municipality does. Flint MI demonstrated what happens when you don't.
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>>65200453
I had an idea for a type of ammo that is literally rubber bullets but instead of being for less lethal use it’s for indoor and lead free practice shooting
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When I quit smoking cigarettes years ago I started smoking a pipe so it would be really inconvenient, worked pretty well. Anyways I'd use a spent .308 casing to tamp the tobacco in the pipe and I feel much more dumber since then
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>>65200453
>are there lead free primers
There have been lead free primers for ages (combined with TFMJ bullets for zero lead exposure).
They're just a bit more expensive so people don't use them.
The Czech military has started using them in 9mm, not sure whether 5.56 and others are planned.
One cool thing is that the nontox ammo results in basically zero fouling. The empty casings look like they came out of the factory.
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>>65200904
>dont chew on the ammo
But it causes more damage when you do that tho
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>>65200453
lead ain't a joke. try to shoot outdoors when you can, use a facemask rated for lead, use lead wipes to clean off your gun, and have range specific clothes that you segregate and preferably take them somewhere to be cleaned instead of using your washer.
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>>65212392
Most brass contains a little lead in the alloy. I don't know the exact ratio for the brass alloy used for cartridge cases but it can be as high as like 5% for other applications so I'm sure there's a good bit in your standard brass case. A 9mm case weighs about 4 grams meaning it could have 200mg of lead in it. Those test strips are testing for trace amounts, usually micrograms. It's probably always going to pop positive on brass. Try it on a brass key or door handle and see what happens.
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>>65200453
Plenty. Fiocchi makes them, I have a full 1300 primer brick I got for handloading. Most of their ammo is made with them too.
>>65202302
There was a company making primer-only .38 Special gallery loads like this back in the 70s or 80s. You could even reload it by hand by pushing fresh plastic bullets into the case after repriming it.
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>>65200453
Unless you're huffing fumes and chewing on it, or just not washing your hands after you handle guns and ammo, then you'll never have to worry about lead poisoning. You would know that if you owned and fired guns.
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