>>65209838
>gun so shit the guy had 2 of them and killed 0 enemies before dying
why would you want one?

>>65209843
Because it looks cool. Guns are used as deterrent not to shoot actual people retard

>>65209838

Those were literally custom-built for that particular scene and were presumably destroyed/disassembled after filming concluded (it wouldn’t really be legal to resell them on the civilian market).

>>65209838
They were custom made from the ground up by the armorer, they're a unique pair.

>>65209848
I would assume that they went back into the possession of the movie armory company.

>>65209888
Doesnt mean they arent for sale

>>65209838
>They brought down the apartheid just so we couldn't have this
This world is run by pure evil.

I think it’s based on the Maneville gun, good luck with that. There’s also an open source one in .22lr.

>>65209890
They could be for sale, but not to the general public, Australian law is extremely strict on semi automatic and especially fully automatic weapons, and have fun trying to get them exported out of Australia somehow.

>>65209915
It has a visual similarity, but they're not based on those.

>>65209838
>Where can I buy a gun like these? Money is not an issue
The armorer's name is John Bowring/Bowering. He's Australian, and still quite active in film projects. IMDB has his contact and agent information on the Pro side of things. If money is genuinely no object, you could get an FFL, incorporate as an armoring company, set up a movie project, hire him on to help you duplicate the pieces, and fly him out to the States to do it. If you were willing to keep working as as a film armorer and could break into the business (they're pretty flighty after the recent unpleasantness involving a Baldwin), then you could keep the guns as working stock. I know an old namefag regular over on /tg/ who does movie armory work specifically to keep his post-86 machine guns. If that sounds like too much work, then you could try to open a gun store and make your own as "prototypes".

Bowring seemed willing to talk shop in the couple of interviews I've seen, he used some kind of rate-limited cam mechanism and electric triggers with comparatively simple machined drums for the magazines. You might be able to get more clues talking to him, he definitely has that air of old, autistic Gen X-er who desperately wants to share his hobbies with someone new as long as they're willing to listen and put in some work.

>As an inside joke, Bowring named the guns "Andy" (serial no. A1169 - Leet Leetspeak for Andy) and "Larry" (serial no. L2779 - Leet Leetspeak for Larry) after the Wachowskis,
That is literally nothing like the leetspeak I remember.

>>65211747
Wait, were they actually functional guns? I was always under the impression that they were just props with a propane system or something to generate the muzzle flashes.

>>65211790
Making a prop gun practically requires you to make a gun. It’s mechanical and has to cycle and stuff even if it’s just propane.

>>65211790
Dude

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>>65211747
>I know an old namefag regular over on /tg/ who does movie armory work specifically to keep his post-86 machine guns.
That's pretty cool.

>Bowring seemed willing to talk shop in the couple of interviews I've seen
>he definitely has that air of old, autistic Gen X-er who desperately wants to share his hobbies with someone new as long as they're willing to listen and put in some work.
He sounds like an awesome guy.

>>65211770
I'll have to second that one though, that doesn't sound like any form of leetspeak I can recall.

>>65211790
It wasn't an actual 12-Gauge blank gun, rather it used propane and some electrical igniter for the flashes, IIRC, but they still wanted to depict the big cylinder cycling, and timed to the flashes, so you need to build and run that one way or another.

Building that sort of prop would be some work and planning. Building an ACTUAL gun like that (live or blank), would probably be totally doable (compare to the Striker-12 and Pancor Jackhammer), but that would be yet more complicated and take a lot more development, much more time and money, so that's very unlikely to be done on a movie production.

>>65211901
>It wasn't an actual 12-Gauge blank gun, rather it used propane and some electrical igniter for the flashes, IIRC, but they still wanted to depict the big cylinder cycling, and timed to the flashes, so you need to build and run that one way or another.
OK, that's what I thought. Somebody else was talking it being illegal to resell them and the other post I replied to made it sound like an actual gun mechanism, which surprised me since I remembered the same thing about them just being props, albeit pretty fancy ones.

>>65211901
>pancor jackhammer
apparently im bitchmade because i cant understand how anyone can look at that thing and think "wow that looks and awesome to carry and shoot"

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>>65211986
I think it's mechanically interesting, but I never found it a compelling weapon, detachable revolver cylinders like that is just ridiculously bulky and heavy, the Striker-12 (the auto-eject ones), are just more elegant by far, and those things still leave lots to be desired.

>>65211986
>>65212073
Limp wrist faggots. Get out of /k/

>>65211747
He's a very talented guy just reading through this.
https://www.matrixfans.net/interview-with-john-bowring-armorer-from-the-matrix-reloaded-2003/
I think there was another Australian guy in /tg/ who was a Cat-D class gun owner I vaguely remember speaking to the armourer guy (whose name escapes me) loaning his guns to John for scans and copies as they were uncommon and he had contacts with military armourers still in the army.

>>65212085
I'm not saying the Pancor isn't cool, I'm just saying that its practical concept leaves a lot to be desired, which is probably why it never got any contracts from anyone and and all that survives is two and a half prototypes.

>>65211790
>>65211826
>>65211883
>>65211901
Mouse's shotguns were not propane-guns, they used 12 gauge blanks (12 gauge is low pressure so you have a fuckload of leeway in regards to safety)
They were electrically driven, pretty simple if you think about it. No need for recoil/gas operation.

>>65212138
I stand corrected, I'm impressed that he built those brand new from the ground up.

>>65212286
It's a lot easier than you think to build a gun if you have access to a CNC machine, are working with shotgun shells, and don't need to care about ergonomics or reloading.
While very cool, they would suck ass if used as actual firearms.

>>65209843
Mouse was a lover, not a fighter.

>>65212138
to add, the cylinders on top aren't scopes, they're the electric motors for the drums. Really cool shit

>>65212312
>lover
More like a coomer

>>65211747
Holy shit, an actual effortpost in this day and age? I salute you, good anon.

>>65211747
>(they're pretty flighty after the recent unpleasantness involving a Baldwin)
Mind naming the event? I'm not in the know, but would like to read more.

>>65212626
Never mind, I'm either sleepy or retarded, I remembered it seconds after posting. Disregard the request.

>>65209848
>custom-built for that particular scene
dang that's pretty cool no wonder I could never identify them

>>65209847
Um they weren't deterred at all

>>65209843
Mouse had the only loadout that stood a chance of dropping an agent. Hell, he was the only one who even thought about Loadout at all. He was the smartest guy on the ship and they used him as cannon fodder.

>>65212651
Your face is a good deterrent

>>65209843
Why did the even bring a loser like Mouse into the mission when he can't even handle sheep cops in the matrix instead of leaving him on the ship?

>>65212767
>he was the only one who even thought about Loadout at all
Lol, nerd.

>>65212645
You'd get some mileage out of IMFDB.

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>The unusual pair of large guns that Mouse (Matt Doran) uses are custom-built cam-operated electric driven automatic 12 gauge shotguns with 25-shell cylinders and a fire rate of 900 rounds per minute.
>They were crafted by John Bowring, lead armorer of the film. As an inside joke, Bowring named the guns "Andy" (serial no. A1169 - Leetspeak for Andy) and "Larry" (serial no. L2779 - Leetspeak for Larry) after the Wachowskis' original names (now Lily and Lana, respectively), the writers and directors of the film.
>It can be assumed inside the Matrix, Mouse designed these shotguns for himself like he designed the woman in the red dress. The design shares some similarities with the High Standard Model 10 and Manville Projectile Launchers.
Are these the first firearms to transition? You could definitely get these made for the civilian market, if you make the narrative about restricting them, about it being doing for transphobic reasons

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>>65209838
I'm pretty sure those are based on pic related. It's an early type of tear gas launcher.

>>65211770
That seems less like leetspeek and more like a pretty literal 'the numbers look kinda like the letters'.

>>65217761
Similar idea, completely different mechanism. Note that the hand-grip is inside the drum, the drum is completely different (looks like a cylinder of aluminum riding inside a bearing sheave with very basic chambers bored in it instead of multiple cylinders rotating with a protective rear cover), diferent caliber, barrel length, balance point.. Plus the whole full-auto thing

>>65211965
>>65211901
You can see burning frag and unburnt powder from the blanks coming out of the guns if you frame-by-frame. I don't blame the crew for the sloppy aiming in that scene, as an armorer I'd be fucking terrified of having them pointed anywhere near actors within 10 yards. Still cool as fuck, and the design is reasonably practical with minishells and a better rate limit.