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>>65211557
>thing is patented
>invetors forced to innovate
>consumers get more choices
Wow the system works.
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>>65211563
the supersaftey isn't under the patent, so no, the system isn't "working"
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>>65211563
>thing is open source
>niggerman makes a bogus patent stealing the open source invention
>niggerman sells patent to Rage Greed Niggers
>Rage Greed Niggers sue the actual inventor who made it open source
>Tim Hoffman goes on to make another open source (and even simpler) forced reset device
Let me guess how Rage Greed Niggers are going to react? They'll sue Tim again and get another patent troll to file another fraudulent patent they can buy.
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>>65211568
>>65211576
I know you guys are 18 year old libertarians that don't believe IP law should exist. I get it. I've been there too and I still pirate plenty of stuff. But ignoring patents just because they make you upset is silly and frankly counterproductive.
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>>65211557
Holy shit. That is both genius and simple.
You could make that with plate steel, a hacksaw, a drill and some files.
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>>65211568
What the fuck does that have to do with this guy BTFO Rarebreed?
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>>65211599
You really don't understand patents do you? Do you know why Amazon is the only major retailer with a single click to buy button? It's not because other people can't do it.

Patents will always have their place and are useful, but you're kidding yourself believing it's a functional system. About the only people that are using it properly are medicine makers and they effectively troll sick people by modifying formulas of functional meds so they can renew patents.
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>>65211599
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>>65211612
>but you're kidding yourself believing it's a functional system.
But it is a functional system. An inventor was forced to innovate around a patent and now we have another FRT on the market. More consumer choice!
>>65211638
This is true. I hate arguing with leftists exactly because of this.
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>>65211557
WHORE!
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>>65211656
>watch on youtube button literally RIGHT THERE
Please learn to read.
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>>65211644
you're not using those terms correctly

hes not innovating "around" a patent, hes innovating around a company that is attacking him for creating a better product under false pretenses

saying "innovating around" implies that rarebreed is in the right
they aren't
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>>65211656
whoops, sorry anon, here you go
https://files.catbox.moe/es1p3r.mp4
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>>65211667
They own the patent on the reset mechanism, anon. We can have an argument about the value and efficacy of IP law and patents but legally they ARE in the right.
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>>65211678
they own the patent for the specific mechanism that is on the patent
they don't own the forced reset trigger concept, those were already extant before they filed the patent, and you can't own something you literally do not own

i have no idea why you can't understand this, seek a medical professional
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>>65211678
The patent IS invalid, that's the argument. It's a patent based on Hoffman's work, 2 out of three of raregreeds patents are already bunk. Now he's being sued for his own invention because he open sourced it vs patenting it. I'm going to patent 4 wheeled vehicles because no one has the patent on that right now I'm going to get it and sue Ford... see how fucking retarded that is?
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>>65211670
>>65211698
bot
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>>65211687
Yes they own the patent for the reset mechanism that is the subject of the patent suit which Rarebreed will almost certainly win. Luckily for Hoffman he just developed a new FRT that doesn't use that mechanism so when the court tells him to stop distributing the original design he can still distribute/sell stuff! Innovation! More consumer choice!
>>65211691
He "open sourced it", whatever that means, after Rarebreed filed their patent. That's the only reason this suit wasn't directed out at pleadings. Because, despite what libertarians might want, you actuallly DO get special rights if you're first to invent something. Hoffman has the rights to this NEW FRT design, and he can do whatever he likes with it because it's new and his and he was first! No one can patent it and if he wants to give it away for free he can! Ingenuity! Market forces!
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>>65211557
I'm assuming with standard trigger this kicker just does safe and super kick right?
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>>65211705
Telling you the truth faggot. Jerking off to gun porn she wont fuck any of you white knights dont chimp out.
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>>65211706
why do you keep bitching about libertarians? they have nothing to do with this
did you fall out of a portal straight from 2013? (if so, tell me where it is, i want to go back)
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>>65211672
OP delivers!
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>>65211706
>He "open sourced it", whatever that means.
He published information about it publicly prior to any patent covering a safe reset action being requested making the information and design public domain. Party A (Hoffman) designed it and released it, Party B patented it after that to "protect it", then Party C (Raregreed) bought the patent from Party B and is using it to sue Party A. Patent laws apparently don't care if you made it first and advertised it if someone else swoops in and patents you invention before you even if it's released under public domain as long as the patent was granted by a patent officer not doing their fucking job. You're misunderstanding how many patents raregreed thinks they have and what they cover. You're getting wires crossed because you don't care enough to actually know the situation. You're assuming their suing for #1 or #2 they had before Hoffman, but they're suing for #3 which they had after the info was public domain.
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>>65211743
Nice argument, but you are a le cringe lolberg if you don't suck Raregreed's dick, them's the rules. Don't blame me, I didn't make the rules, I just patented 'em.

Sent from my iPhone via Tapatalk.
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>>65211557
The previous design had 3 modes (safe, semi, and full); this new product only has 2 modes (safe and full). Giving up semi-auto functionality makes this an inferior product, unfortunately. We just have to wait for RareGreed to lose the lawsuit so we can get more options in the market.
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>>65211774
How are you so bad at this? Like just let go of the trigga, nigga. Lol. Seriously, fuck is wrong with yall? Smh
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>>65211784
She wont fuck you either white knight simp she likes guys who touch her breast fucking boy. She is telling you what real men do to her moron
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>>65211787
>she
yup, its a bot
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>>65211798
I've seen it a couple times now. Weird topic to set up a bot to spam.
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>>65211784
That was my first message in this thread, whatever has your panties in a bunch has nothing to do with me.
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>>65211557
So I need to buy more super safeties now, right?
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>>65211743
They have 3. 2 of them have prior art and they're going to lose on them. 1 of them (the reset mechanism) is good and they will win on it. Screencap this. Hoffman seems like a cool dude with some great ideas but he did infringe on the reset mechanism patent. Thankfully he invented his way out of the situation and developed the new FRT in the OP.
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>>65211599
Anything that has been publicly demonstrated is not supposed to be patentable. But when the patent office screws up and issues a bogus patent, it's still really hard to get it revoked.
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Will this work on a Mac N Cheese with a trip bar?
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>>65212231
That would be very true if Hoffman didn't admit on twitter that he infringed on the patent. There are literally screenshots in the lawsuit btw.
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>>65212353
What the fuck are you talking about?
He made it first and he made it public.
Do you have the memory of a goldfish?
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>>65211784
What made the original SS good was that it had the semi-option still built in. Which made it a lot more practical to use all the time. You didn't need to have an FRT gun. You just had a gun that had an FRT in it.
This is a far more primitive device.
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My smoothbrain take is that the FRT from rare breed is a contained trigger group that replaces the entire trigger group in the gun, where the SS replaces the safety selector. Where I live I cant own either, so I wouldn't really know.
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>>65211599
he literally designed it & posted the designs/3d model for it online for free use
someone else patented his design he uploaded & are suing him for making it
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>>65212746
You can't patent a design with prior art, retard. Hoffman literally said on twitter he got his levee design from the rarebreed Frt, AFTER they had filed their ptent application. I swear none of you havw read the fucking lawsuit.
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>>65212966
*reset lever
Fuck
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>>65212646
See>>65212966
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>>65211599
You keep posting a variation of this statement on this board. On RBT's dole or just attention starved for the (you)s?
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>>65212966
>Hoffman literally said on twitter he got his levee design from the rarebreed Frt, AFTER they had filed their ptent application.
That ought to be an increadibly easy claim for you to backup. (you won't)
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>>65213086
and what does anon gain from making up things like that out of the blue?
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>>65213048
I have only posted about this in this thread.
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>NFA violation
>NFA violation marketed to white people
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>>65213399
I knw I'm replying to a soiposter but it literally is not an NFA violation. The ATF explicitly said so.
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>>65213472
The ATF changes their mind about every 4 to 8 years, for what reason only the bearded skydaddy knows
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>>65213609
They can't change their mind this time. Look up entrapment by estoppel
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>>65212966
Yes you can, retard. Prior art is in fact something that is recommended to be directly addressed in every single patent application. You show what the market has, so you show how your product is different from it.
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>>65211662
You have to enter your info for that.
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>>65211837
Lurk, fag.
Whatever happened to
>Do not reply in a board until you have lurked for a year?
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>>65211638
Also funny how much of the rightie discourse is just them maliciously mispresenting arguments and getting offended.
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>>65213379
That ought to be an increadibly easy claim >>65212966
for you to backup. (you won't)
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>>65215299
>what is reading comprehension
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>>65214900
look at what they did for pistol braces.
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>>65213399
>NFA violation: White
Riding a unicycle in a no skateboarding/biking/motor vehicles road
>NFA violation: Minority
Chinese made crotch rocket going 90 mph on the same road
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HOFFMAN CHADS RISE UP!!!!
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>>65211706
>He "open sourced it", whatever that means
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>>65215310
>Do not reply in a board until you have lurked for a year?
Are you so stupid that you don't understand the difference between first message in a thread and the first message in a board? All I stated was that I wasn't part of the bitchfest that you see when scrolling up, I've probably been in /k/ for longer than you.
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this patent jewing is objectively bad for gun rights. in order to kill the nfa we need fart triggers to become common use, and letting some jew company keep them at $400 each isn't going to make that happen.
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>erav greed is trying to patent a lightning link
hilarious
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>>65213399
All NFA violations are morally good.
The government has no right to legislate on firearms.

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