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>>65211563
>thing is open source
>niggerman makes a bogus patent stealing the open source invention
>niggerman sells patent to Rage Greed Niggers
>Rage Greed Niggers sue the actual inventor who made it open source
>Tim Hoffman goes on to make another open source (and even simpler) forced reset device
Let me guess how Rage Greed Niggers are going to react? They'll sue Tim again and get another patent troll to file another fraudulent patent they can buy.
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>>65211576
I know you guys are 18 year old libertarians that don't believe IP law should exist. I get it. I've been there too and I still pirate plenty of stuff. But ignoring patents just because they make you upset is silly and frankly counterproductive.
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>>65211599
You really don't understand patents do you? Do you know why Amazon is the only major retailer with a single click to buy button? It's not because other people can't do it.
Patents will always have their place and are useful, but you're kidding yourself believing it's a functional system. About the only people that are using it properly are medicine makers and they effectively troll sick people by modifying formulas of functional meds so they can renew patents.
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>>65211612
>but you're kidding yourself believing it's a functional system.
But it is a functional system. An inventor was forced to innovate around a patent and now we have another FRT on the market. More consumer choice!
>>65211638
This is true. I hate arguing with leftists exactly because of this.
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>>65211557
WHORE!
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>>65211644
you're not using those terms correctly
hes not innovating "around" a patent, hes innovating around a company that is attacking him for creating a better product under false pretenses
saying "innovating around" implies that rarebreed is in the right
they aren't
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>>65211656
whoops, sorry anon, here you go
https://files.catbox.moe/es1p3r.mp4
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>>65211678
they own the patent for the specific mechanism that is on the patent
they don't own the forced reset trigger concept, those were already extant before they filed the patent, and you can't own something you literally do not own
i have no idea why you can't understand this, seek a medical professional
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>>65211678
The patent IS invalid, that's the argument. It's a patent based on Hoffman's work, 2 out of three of raregreeds patents are already bunk. Now he's being sued for his own invention because he open sourced it vs patenting it. I'm going to patent 4 wheeled vehicles because no one has the patent on that right now I'm going to get it and sue Ford... see how fucking retarded that is?
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>>65211687
Yes they own the patent for the reset mechanism that is the subject of the patent suit which Rarebreed will almost certainly win. Luckily for Hoffman he just developed a new FRT that doesn't use that mechanism so when the court tells him to stop distributing the original design he can still distribute/sell stuff! Innovation! More consumer choice!
>>65211691
He "open sourced it", whatever that means, after Rarebreed filed their patent. That's the only reason this suit wasn't directed out at pleadings. Because, despite what libertarians might want, you actuallly DO get special rights if you're first to invent something. Hoffman has the rights to this NEW FRT design, and he can do whatever he likes with it because it's new and his and he was first! No one can patent it and if he wants to give it away for free he can! Ingenuity! Market forces!
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>>65211706
>He "open sourced it", whatever that means.
He published information about it publicly prior to any patent covering a safe reset action being requested making the information and design public domain. Party A (Hoffman) designed it and released it, Party B patented it after that to "protect it", then Party C (Raregreed) bought the patent from Party B and is using it to sue Party A. Patent laws apparently don't care if you made it first and advertised it if someone else swoops in and patents you invention before you even if it's released under public domain as long as the patent was granted by a patent officer not doing their fucking job. You're misunderstanding how many patents raregreed thinks they have and what they cover. You're getting wires crossed because you don't care enough to actually know the situation. You're assuming their suing for #1 or #2 they had before Hoffman, but they're suing for #3 which they had after the info was public domain.
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>>65211743
Nice argument, but you are a le cringe lolberg if you don't suck Raregreed's dick, them's the rules. Don't blame me, I didn't make the rules, I just patented 'em.
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>>65211557
The previous design had 3 modes (safe, semi, and full); this new product only has 2 modes (safe and full). Giving up semi-auto functionality makes this an inferior product, unfortunately. We just have to wait for RareGreed to lose the lawsuit so we can get more options in the market.
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>>65211743
They have 3. 2 of them have prior art and they're going to lose on them. 1 of them (the reset mechanism) is good and they will win on it. Screencap this. Hoffman seems like a cool dude with some great ideas but he did infringe on the reset mechanism patent. Thankfully he invented his way out of the situation and developed the new FRT in the OP.
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>>65211784
What made the original SS good was that it had the semi-option still built in. Which made it a lot more practical to use all the time. You didn't need to have an FRT gun. You just had a gun that had an FRT in it.
This is a far more primitive device.
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My smoothbrain take is that the FRT from rare breed is a contained trigger group that replaces the entire trigger group in the gun, where the SS replaces the safety selector. Where I live I cant own either, so I wouldn't really know.
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>>65211599
he literally designed it & posted the designs/3d model for it online for free use
someone else patented his design he uploaded & are suing him for making it
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>>65212746
You can't patent a design with prior art, retard. Hoffman literally said on twitter he got his levee design from the rarebreed Frt, AFTER they had filed their ptent application. I swear none of you havw read the fucking lawsuit.
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>>65212966
>Hoffman literally said on twitter he got his levee design from the rarebreed Frt, AFTER they had filed their ptent application.
That ought to be an increadibly easy claim for you to backup. (you won't)
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>>65212966
Yes you can, retard. Prior art is in fact something that is recommended to be directly addressed in every single patent application. You show what the market has, so you show how your product is different from it.
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>>65213379
That ought to be an increadibly easy claim >>65212966
for you to backup. (you won't)
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>>65211706
>He "open sourced it", whatever that means
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>>65215310
>Do not reply in a board until you have lurked for a year?
Are you so stupid that you don't understand the difference between first message in a thread and the first message in a board? All I stated was that I wasn't part of the bitchfest that you see when scrolling up, I've probably been in /k/ for longer than you.
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