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>be shooting
>click
>eject dud cartridge
>use bullet puller hammer to tear down cartridge and reload powder and bullet with a reprimed case
>pour powder in scoop
>see spider
tldr guys there was a spider in a cartridge
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This may not have been your fault. By the known laws of physics, it is possible, albeit rare, for a bunch of subatomic particles to arrange themselves to form a dead spider and jam itself in your primer. And there would be no way for you to know. In the other 9,999,999,999,999 parallel universes there was no dead spider, or it was alive, or it wasn't directly against the primer and thus got incinerated
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>>65216082
Are the odds really that unlikely? Cartridges are getting mass produced in old factories that are for making ammo not food, not like the FDA is inspecting them, like some people might be neat freaks more but honestly who gives a shit if there's a little mold here and there or some insects getting in? The vast super majority of the time it won't matter, like maybe it slight changes the velocity of a round but cheap factory ammo typically has mediocre std-dev/spread for velocities and nobody expects otherwise. It could be semi-common and thus rarely gets noticed since as you say normally the bullet works and that's that.
Kind of a funny weird little thing though OP.
>>65216049
heh
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>>65216182
What's the likelihood of a dud? Now the likelihood of a spider in the cartridge (something i have never seen before, despite being an ancient handloader who has worked in a powder mfg plant for 25 years). Now the likelihood of someone discovering it? Do the math, but unlikely.
And no, powder/ammo plants are extremely clean spaces. The protocols in place to reduce the likelihood and damage of an accident/explosion are also conducive to keeping the place clean and free of debris/bugs. The plant I worked in sprayed for bugs weekly, and I have never seen even a single roach in our plant, despite this being the 90s in Florida
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>current year of our lord 2020+6
>he doesnt shoot spiders at the enemy for good measure
>>65216182
I feel like its probably fairly likely we're shooting spiders and such all the time honestly. I bet someone out there has a cartridge full of cum and shit and will never know it.
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>>65216210
>What's the likelihood of a dud? Now the likelihood of a spider in the cartridge (something i have never seen before, despite being an ancient handloader who has worked in a powder mfg plant for 25 years). Now the likelihood of someone discovering it? Do the math, but unlikely.
Anon, you're missing the other half of a Large Numbers question though: the production side. Last I checked, the amount of factory made ammo per year clocks in around 12 billion rounds. Billion with a b. Which means a 1-in-a-billion chance, one thousand times less likely then getting struck by lightning in a given year and 65 million times less likely then getting struck by lightning in an average human life time, should happen around 12 times per year. This is getting into insane black swan event levels.
>powder/ammo plants are extremely clean spaces
In the former soviet union or wherever else in the world this was imported from? In every single rando manufacturer? Smokeless powder plants are definitely 100% monitored hypercarefully for sure, there's only a tiny number of them and they're vital and risky assets. But slapping together components into a finished round is a lot more common.
Again, one in billions chances are probabilities that don't really mesh with any of our common sense. I have no way to prove OP is lying or not but I see no reason to assume unlikely-but-perfectly-possible stuff can never happen.
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>>65216082
you can even see flakes of powder within it's clenched legs
>>65216267
it's from a fairly new Geco 9mm round, made in hungary iirc
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>>65216359
forgot pic
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>>65216038
Assuming that your story is true, and given that the inclusion of a spider wouldn't have prevented the primer from going off, we're in danger of getting fooled by survivorship bias. The more interesting question is, how many dead spiders get launched downrange every year without anyone ever knowing about it?
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>>65216732
The vinn diagram makes this seem a little too unlikely. You have a dud round, a spider, and the fact that it was discovered by a handloader, as opposed to just thrown out, like 99.9999% of duds. I've seen discarded duds go off, so when I get a dud, I just toss them. And no way in hell would I pick up a random dud, because who knows what powder they're using? The only useful component would be the brass, and that's nearly worthless. It's just infinitely more likely that someone tossed a spider in, sprinkled on some powder, and made a post. If I find a bug laying around today, I'll stuff it in a shotgun shell and see if anyone here is stupid enough to believe it. While I'm at it, I'll shoot at an aluminum bowl with a BB gun, and tell people here someone actually shot it's while it was on my head with zero proof. People here are fucking stupid.
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>>65216082
yeah OP is doing the reddit post thing
obvious fake story gets huge attention
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>>65216966
Yeah, nobody ever tried to tell a silly story in an attempt to be funny and/or get attention before Reddit. Especially not on 4chan, never here, an ABSOLUTELY not on /k/, it has never happened.
You gormless cocksucker.
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>>65216038
i don't know why anons are trying to discredit the fact that spiders crawl into spaces
i once found a camel spider in a brass cleaner, fell in and died since it couldn't get out (still got it, i put it in a sauce cup)
seen plenty of spiders in old piles of spent cases too, but they were usually small spiders
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>>65217118
no, mojave
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>>65217116
>i don't know why anons are trying to discredit the fact that spiders crawl into spaces
This. Spiders get into everything, and that doesn't mean there will be any spider web or the like since there are hunting spiders not just web ones. I finished off a brand new basement, zero furniture just pure white painted and empty, and went down the next day and there was a big 'ol spider guy stuck on the floor, walls too smooth to get back out. Had to get a cup and paper to usher the poor thing back out to get back to righteous bug slaughter. Everything was spotless clean but not perfectly airtight and spider squeezed its way in somewhere overnight.
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>>65217116
I don't think the fact that spiders crawl into spaces is disputed. It's the likelihood that it was discovered in a dud cartridge. I'm not statistician, but that alone seems like insane odds, seeing as even shooting wwb in my 92fs, I have probably had less than 10 duds in maybe 2k rounds. So the chance of a spider in a cartridge, and it's a dud, and it's discovered by a handloading /k/ user, and most importantly, the ease at which such a claim can be faked.
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>>65217158
stop replying to bait, theres no world where the spider causes a dud
this is literally first grade trolling, everyone on /k/ knows what a primer is and how it works, stop biting the fucking hook you nigger
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>>65217168
It's called telling a fucking joke, you retards. He's not seriously expecting you to believe it, that was never the point.
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>>65217185
You got a problem with that?
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>>65217172
>imma total stone COLD edgelord do i fit in guiz
I'm sorry to break this to you son, but nothing says "tourist" like CRAWLING IN MY SKIIINNNN in 2026. I'll hunt for food and kill pests without hesitation, but why would I go out of my way to kill something useful when it's an extra 30 seconds my time to put it out a window instead? If I hated nature I'd live in a city instead of a rural area.
You sound like you're a maladapted 20-something with no family, not relatively functional 30-50+-something gun autist. Hardly unusual on 4chan for people who are new granted. These things maybe just take some time, but just know you don't have to act like a tv villain faggot to enjoy shooting and military anon and have a good time.
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>>65217204
perhaps
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>>65217205
nta but there are plenty of reasons to kill spiders. Here in Florida, certain spiders kill baby lizards and frogs, which eat WAY more bugs than a spider ever could. They're essentially a net loss. Cellar spiders in Florida for example are great at killing house geckos and other spiders, but awful at killing actual pests. Also, I'm not an bug expert, and I have a 1 year old baby. It's easy to mistake a brown recluse for a wolf/grass/hobo/house spider. It's way safer for my baby to just kill the fucking spider. You ARE reddit if you get that upset over someone squishing a bug.
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>>65216050
>Parallel universe
That's retarded. The various things that had to happen to create out sun, the earth, stable conditions for life, life, humans, and then our current society were astronomically unlikely. If alternate universes exist, and they might, the likelihood that they contain our earth, with life, is utterly impossible. You are stupid.
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>>65217214
Ah, that's fair enough. Good example of bubbles, far enough north here that there are zero venomous spiders and thus I've never even thought about it. Nor for that matter anything big that could go after any amphibians or the (too cold for lizards too). So yeah if you're in an area with bad ones that's a different calculation.
>"that upset"
You're being more reddit anon. As I said I have no problem dealing with actual pests, it was the other guy who was apparently enraged by not instantly killing something that wasn't. And if I didn't inquire as to whether he was southern, well he didn't ask about if I was northern either yeah?
The only point was just agreeing that spiders get into a lot of stuff, even clean, brand new structures and tiny holes and such. Just saying a factory could be in great shape and still wouldn't be surprisingly if some things get in, unless it's like pharmaceutical grade or something. No need to take anything more than that.
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>>65217214
The people who say you should go out of your way to catch a spider and release him outdoors don't have wives or babies. I can't count how many times I've been bitten by, presumably wolf spiders that get in my socks or shoes or whatever. I also can't count how many times I've tried to catch a spider, only for it to escape into my closet, never to he seen again. It's way easier to just fucking kill it, ensuring it won't bite my son. Unless of course it's a jumping spider, because then I 100% know it's harmless, and also cute as fuck.
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>>65217241
You're the retard. Not that we have any way to (probably ever) prove that a strict multiple worlds interpretation is correct, we're inside the aquarium forever with everything else here. But if it is than there are infinite AUs and in turn infinite other AUs with life like us. Also infinite ones without. Such is the nature of infinity.
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>>65217247
never had a spider bite in 48 years nor my wife nor kids. like other anon said gonna be pretty regional whether you squash it or not. also situational. if it is too much of a pain then squish. not grabbing for one in my car for example while im driving.
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>>65217187
its not a joke when its poised as real and for specific intent of misleading people
drink bleach
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>>65217250
Infinite would mean that all possible things could happen. Not impossible things. It wouldn't matter if there were infinite universes plus one, it isn't possible for you to become the god-emperor in any of them. Impossible things don't become possible just because you try them a lot- or even infinite amount of times.
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>>65217214
I hate to break this to you anon, but hobo spiders are just as bad as brown recluse. at least the pnw ones. fortunately both are pretty rare to come by unless you have a filthy cellar, crawlspace or you're a real man with a wood pile storing some logs for your wood burning stove.
>>65217247
eh, wolf spiders are rather harmless. they are fast asf though
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KEK
>>65217640
agreed. i live in the northern midwest currently, so thankfully I dont have to worry about much other than brown recluse, which are rare to see. i let the spiders and house centipedes live because they kill everything else, including each other. the only cnr ill do is honey bees and bumbles should they get in... everything else WILL die.
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>>65218166
Ok, I stand corrected. I forget wtf it was in my woodshed, but it was not one of those after looking at pics. I do remember what it was, was just as bad as a recluse. Different markings, fatter and juicier
>damn boi she thicc!.wav
Chkd
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>>65218166
As an arachnophobe, I've had to learn a bit for peace of mind, and Recluse bites can be potentially very nasty, but the necrosis is a rare outcome.
While both Recluses and Widows have had this legend of being deadly venomous, they actually really aren't, one spider just does not have enough venom in it to kill an adult human. You will feel like SHIT, it makes you sick, but you would have to either be a newborn, or be taking MANY venomous bites at once.
I'm still glad to not be living anywhere near their ranges though.
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>>65216861
That's exactly what a spider would say. The last thing that the spiders would want us knowing about is how much of our ammunition they crawl into. You're not a spider, are you anon?
>>65217205
Hairy pedipalps typed this post. You're not fooling anyone, spider.
>also, given that very few species of spiders live 18 years or more, you're probably not allowed to post here