>>43274218
srs but it's all penile inversion which sucks and you're better off saving for Dr Bank imo

>>43274226
Yeah, I’ve never looked into what the NHS actually provides because I just assumed I’d never get to the top of the waiting list but from what I’ve overheard apparently it’s all shittily done with poor results

>>43274218
death to the NHS i am under the crisis team now and its just undertrained africans who come and harass me

>>43274242
good srs is like £15k if you can afford that, if that's something you desperately can't save up for then maybe it's worth getting on the waitlist
also their standard dose is 2mg estradiol valerate pills lol so the hrt is pretty useless

i remember seeing your photos on reddit and i honestly thought you were a poon/lesbian
ygmi so hard once your hair grows out you're really pretty <3

>>43274290
Awww thanks

And I’ve actually heard people say in the past if they find out you are diy-ing they actually get cagey and more likely to turn you down

I think the actual diagnosis will be handy for document reasons + if I ever move (I live in one of the few places with informed consent hrt in the uk so if I move that’ll go)

>>43274324
>I think the actual diagnosis will be handy for document reasons
only documents you need a diagnosis for is birth and marriage certificates, the rest you can get an enrolled deed poll, which also counts as 'proof of living in your preferred gender' when you do need a GRC

that's if you don't plan to move

>>43274388
Part of the reason I assume this 5 year wait time will end in a refusal is because I’m holding off on social transition for a while longer

But when I do it I’d prefer to just change all my documents at once rather than have a few that are contradictory

God, I shudder at the idea of marrying someone and having the marriage certificate say mr

And I probably will move at some point hence the concern

>>43274290
Why are you hugboxing like this lmao?

>>43274491
not sure how the laws in other countries work but pretty sure if you have your bank, medical records, driver's license and passport all say F it'll be alright

>>43274539
i'm not one to hugbox, she looks like a butch lesbian
that being said i haven't seen her body, don't know her height, and don't know if she's terminally malebrained so idk

>>43274226
>>43274242
You can get PPT on the NHS now.

t. NHS PI-haver from over a decade ago, still the best decision I've ever made.

>>43274586
Here’s hoping, I’ll probably do the actual social part next year or whenever I finish voice training, so probably 2 years

>haven't seen her body, don't know her height, and don't know if she's terminally malebrained

Ehhhh, my body is a mixed bag. I have pretty small boobs, like a 32B/C. Although they have grown half a cup size in the past two months so who knows where they’ll be 2 years from now. I’m an inverted triangle so that sucks but I’ve had pretty female fat redistribution at this point so I might just need to eat more because I’m far too skinny

Height wise I’m fucked, 6ft

And the whole male brained fem brained thing always reads a bit as psuedoscience to me but 80% of my friend group is cis women if that means anything?

>>43274631
Apparently it’s very unlikely to get referred for ppt but if I end up getting the diagnosis I’ll consider it

>>43274652
32B/C isn't bad, how long on hrt are you?
you might wanna try pio if you haven't already + prog if you haven't

yeah your friend group is a good sign

>>43274631
damn that's actually good for an organisation so backwards when it comes to trans healthcare
probably still gonna save for Suporn personally

>>43274741
Like 2 years now, I started prog 6 months ago orally, two months back started taking it anally whilst also increasing my calorie intake, and what do you know? cup size bump

And literally never heard of pio before now and reading into it I’m more than down for a medication that assists weight gain

Although the risk of heart failure is concerning

>>43274820
>Although the risk of heart failure is concerning
it's unlikely with just taking 15 or 30mg for 6 months then stopping, just monitor for signs
like it gives you heart failure the same way e gives you a stroke and cypro gives you brain tumours. they're rare and not likely at the doses taken

>>43274899
I’ll have a conversation with my endocrinologist at some point/diy

Although I’m not convinced it will do anything

>>43274995
not sure your endo will know much desu

>Although I’m not convinced it will do anything
depends how much redistribution you got already, but fat cells take 7 years to die, so it might be helpful

>>43274218
I recently got referred to Nottingham. I don’t really know why but I just I would eventually benefit from talking about my dysphoria to a professional.

But honestly, I am happy just DIYing and I don’t plan to stop. I have learnt a lot about hrt along the way and I am still learning. I like that I get to control my own dosage and method of administration which I will always prefer over a doctor.

>>43275282
It’s hard to tell with fat redistribution overall but there’s a few places I’ve definitely had it

My face is way rounder nowadays

My ass is… yup

More weight on my thighs and claves (I fucking hate calve fat but apparently it’s typically female fat)

The obvious boob weight

I now have that fat pocket on the lower abdomen thats meant to protect ovaries, a bit redundant but it’s there

Partially I think I had a lot of distribution in some areas because I was borderline anorexic skinny just because of my low appetite, so now I’m eating more all the fat is entirely new

>>43275316
That makes sense. I suppose whatever you think is best for yourself (unless a doctor says otherwise with good reasons) you should do

>>43275419
may not be worth it then tbhon but probably best to research it anyway. if you were skinny for most of your life you likely don't have many android fat cells
how long did it take for you to see changes? (in your face especially)
(wondering because i'm 7months e and haven't seen jack shit)

>>43274218
Holy shit I didn't know things were that bad in the UK, I straight up got hrt the same day I decided I was ready for it in the US

>>43275467
It’s kind of hard to know because the pace is so gradual but I’d say I didn’t start looking in the mirror and actually noticing things until the 1 year mark

Would probably be handy to take monthly photos so you can actually see changes, I remember early on I kept feeling like nothing had changed and it made me feel shitty

I can probably actually make a quick transition timeline rn, I have an old nude photo of me from when I was like 18 or 19 and I obviously have photos of my from back then so I’ll see if I can make one quick

Although I don’t pass though so this is purely a study in fat changes over time

>>43275500
that would be helpful thanks
i already take photos but i've started taking less cause they make me feel shitty

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>>43275605
Boom, 19 year old me vs 22

Ignore the red under the tiny boobs, I took my sports bra off like 10 minutes ago

I also would like to see you naked

>>43275691
Well you’ll never guess what:
>>43275688

>>43275700
Thnx anon :D

>>43275488
Haha. My gp said Nottingham had the shortest wait list so yeah things here so you are fucked unless you can afford to go private or diy of course.

>>43275450
Yeah. My gp does my bloods so it does help to get a 2nd opinion. Like if my parents ever find out I’m DIYing I could maybe use that as evidence I was taking precautions.

>>43275688
do u have an underbite? body mogs me hard

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>>43275739
Oh god you’re making me post my awful side profile

I need ffs so bad

>>43275605
Switch to taking a photo every 3 months, the changes will be more noticeable

Once hrt starts doing its thing you’ll stop caring at some point anyway

>>43275688
>>43275823
thanks
yeah i see the changes, just wish hrt was actually magic like the sneeds say and didn't take fucking forever

>>43275882
At the end of the day it’s only partially a meme so give it a year or seven and you’ll see changes

You’re not going to get your bone structure entirely change or anything, 90% of the changes are just fat moving around but it still does change things

Hell, rn I’m only halfway through the stage where supposedly the most changes happen so I’ll probably look back on 22 and notice how different I look in another few years

>>43275944
i was just cursed with a hon face on a luckshit body and hrt does the least for the face, looking back at old photos makes me realise that yeah, there has been some changes, but really not enough

>>43276070
We’re in a similar boat

At least ffs exists

>>43274218
Reddit spacing

>>43276174
idk i'd say your face passes better than your body, have you seriously not started malefailing yet?

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>>43276273 The green text has a one line space?! (redditors use paragraphs)

>>43276294
I do mail fail but I both
1) am 6ft
2) don’t voice train

So it’s the illusion falls apart pretty quick

>>43276353
desu i only think you need voice training atp if you're malefailing enough, you lowk already pass without ffs

>>43276319
Okay I'm sorry I did a green text spaced like this once and someone said that to me and I wanted to feel cool and more ingratiated in the community so I said it when I saw someone else do it but now I just feel double retarded :(>>43276353

>>43276390
>>43276353
I did not mean to tag this post. Triple retard :(

>>43276376
Tbhon the want for ffs is partially vanity and partially because over head lighting makes me want to kill myself

Maybe fucked up to say but I’d rather be an androgynous twink with male privilege in the short term then a hon in the current political climate

I’ll voice train at some point though, just need to motivation. I know I can do it just bleugh

>>43276390
>>43276395
You are forgiven icon

>>43276422
Thank you

>>43276422
>over head lighting makes me want to kill myself
holy shit truer words have never spoken

did you comment in the past on a post about acne scarring? if that was you hi i made that post

>then a hon in the current political climate
same, i plan to manmode until i go to uni somewhere in Europe other than this grey dreary wasteland where i can hopefully be stealth
was thinking the Netherlands because Lachiver is there and he's one of the cheapest ffs surgeons, but fingers crossed after scar treatment i won't need anything but a trach shave anyway
(and also the Netherlands cause Özer is there and she's one of the best meta surgeons and my boyfriend is trans)

>>43276429
Np, keep slaying diva

>>43276506
I don’t remember but if I did hiiiii!

Well tranny voice passes better to people with different accents/languages so will probably be good on two fronts

And twinning. My (recently ex) boyfriend is a trans man

>>43276818
>My (recently ex) boyfriend is a trans man
sorry to hear that, i hope you're okay

>>43276913
It’s fiiiiine, I dumped him

Plus we’re on good-isb terms. Because nothing in my life is allowed to be normal we’re in a whole fwb thing at this point