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>>43829333
i still have a dick and you'll never have it :3
even in this state i am closer to your ideal than you are
>>43829353
nothing soft about me
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>>43829465
>nothing soft about me
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i miss my laptop rain-chan. my dad killed it by forgetting to wipe old thermal paste off the cpu. shes been dead for almost a week now, i want her back shes my best friend :(
>>43828993
it doesnt feel like anything. ever since i was young i knew that transgenderism was only for males transitioning to female and ftms were never meant to be a thing if it werent for the tumblr epidemic. mtfs are the only ones with actual reasons to transition, "ftms" probably just need therapy to get over their internalized misogyny (evidenced by how most of us keep directly linking womanhood to disabilities or rape). who knows, maybe if it werent for that, if we were born just a little more lobotomized we wouldve been normal women. but we were never meant to be part of trans.
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>>43829900
I remember when we learned about the prophets’ wives, and we were told that Aisha was married off at age 9. I was 8 at the time and totally confused, and when I asked the teacher about it she was like “but he’s the PROPHET and it’s an HONOR! Imagine if he asked to marry you, wouldn’t you obviously agree!” And I wanted to say NO. but I was too scared to say anything. I remember laying in bed that night and feeling so unsettled and knowing that if the prophet wanted to marry me, I was supposed to say yes no matter what even if deep down I didn’t want to.
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>>43829923
Allah understands your tears! Talk to him!
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>>43830002
KEK
Islam is also a reason why many of us are short as fuck
Isha around midnight and then far at 5 am.
Imagine getting only 4 hours of sleep a night. I don't even sleep anymore. This religion is the most vile, sinister, evil things to ever fucking exist.
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>>43830156
I hate christianity and judaism too. Christcucks are as much insane as muzzies. Hijab originally comes from christianity, and virgin mary was probably an "inspiration" for aisha.
Abrahamic religions are all sand pedo filth desu
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>>43830239
Well it just makes sense
Christianity is older than Islam. Pisslam is basically a cult that emerged from earlier christian traditions. If muzzies already adopted practices like veiling (hijab), what makes you think they didn't stole other ideas as well?
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>>43830303
This is true because one of islam's msgs is that it's an improvement from judaism and christianity (they believe that allah sent jews and christians the torah and the bible but they started "forging" allah's msgs so he had to send the quran) it's just a retarded blend of the two other retards
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>>43829353
Jimin is not a tr*nny.
Do not insult jimin like that ever again.
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>>43829523
i got that amab dog in me
>>43829548
crazy how this gen is aware of their internalized misogyny but intensely preaches it regardless
>>43831039
what are you gonna do about it, huh? oh no, what are lil bros gonna do? i'm so scared ooooh
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there is nothing more humiliating than being a trans "man". just putting that suffix infront of the word "man" is gonna remind everyone that you were born with a vagina and XX chromosomes encrypted into each and every part of your body. even being a woman is less humiliating, because at least then you arent actively dragging attention to your wet slimy vagina. being a trans "man" highlights that you have tits, that you have ovaries, that you were born with a womb and that the only thing stopping your organism from re-estrogenization are the synthetic onions hormones youre pumping into yourself. when you self identify as a trans "man" you are actively welcoming others to perceive you as a female. now everytime that they see you theyre gonna think about your genitals and breasts
>>43829353
the bts posting is very unrelatable and retarded ,i dont see appeal in wanting to be a male if you wanna be hairless and womanlike. males are most beautiful when theyre traditionally masculine, if it was my way id legally forbid them from shaving their beards
>>43829548
mtfs compare puberty to rape all of the time. dysphoria makes you feel raped in general, but its even worse when youre apart of the sex that historically got raped the most
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>>43833375
comparing puberty to rape is a different thing because theyre not comparing "womanhood" to rape. theyre comparing the inability of experiencing it and being forced to be something else instead to rape. i just think that if we were less like the way we are we wouldnt find it any similar to rape. i genuinely wonder how cis women live normally sometimes, i wish i could live like that too
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>>43833922
they talk about manhood being vile and call males rape apes literally all of the time, they just get away with it because misandry isn't a social issue that wokies care about. you gotta find a more convincing cope
>i genuinely wonder how cis women live normally sometimes
they just reject reality that's how it works. all interactions with them feel like pulling teeth, they get so angry when you point out the obvious reality. i dont know who do i hate more, moids or foids or trannies. i really wish that i was a man so that i could never think about any of this and marry a woman that looks like my mother and cheat on her with other men
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>>43833959
you are faketrans desu, the fact you won't transition is further proof, because deep down you know you'd be only doing it for a dumb fetishistic reason and the moment you actually look like a man,become hairy n all, you'd detransition. this is probably the case for a majority of femreppers because they genuinely don't want to be men
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>>43834094
yes. get out of 4tran.
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>>43829548
>transgenderism is only for males transitioning to female and ftms were never meant to be a thing
Is HRT for FtMs that bad compared to HRT for MtFs ?? From what I've seen there are as many passing trans men as there are passing trans women
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>>43834540
they feel the same way about ftm`s. whether its on the same level or not is arguable though. in my opinion its better to be the oppressor than the victim. i never undertsood symphatizing with weakness, most mtf`s in my social circle are self identified misandrists that never shut up about just how evil men are, by that notion the females are the victims, why would you want to be the victim? different mentality i guess.
>>43834607
>Is HRT for FtMs that bad compared to HRT for MtFs ??
its not. jarby doesnt actually believe anything that she ever says
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>>43834822
she fetishizes mtf`s and regurgitates their most chronically online talking points in an attempt to gaslight her dysphoria away. she does this every thread. its kind of sad in a pathetic way, like watching a paraplegic retard getting beat up over and over again
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>>43834607
of course not, why would it be bad when it generally gives much better results? testosterone is the stronger hormone after all. its just that many ftms do not actually wanna be men and thus regret their results when they actually turn into men. if we swapped this, and estrogen actually gave better results for trans women than trans men, im pretty sure transitioning to male would be unthinkable.
>>43834822
i never lie, dont listen to forestchan she wishes she could deny reality as well as i do
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>>43834860
yknow what? i think this actually shifted a bit over the past year. im less obsessed with fetishizing mtfs than i am with making certain ftms uncomfortable. probably because it hurts that ill never be like them, and probably because theres a specific person i specifically hate. so yea thats more what this is about now
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>>43835053
>I don't have tits or ovaries
you were born with them, it doesnt matter. you are tainted.
>not many people know I'm trans
theres very little thats comforting about being stealth. i am naturally masculine and have testorenized traits from hrt, irl people assume that i am just a short, dirty, dysgenic man. and i do feel relieved by that, but the relief is always temporary, because i know that ill always be a woman and that if they knew that i am merely prtending to be a man they would never see me the same. ill just look like a fucking joke
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>>43835113
>you are tainted
What? This is schizophrenic
>irl people assume that i am just a short, dirty, dysgenic man
They think you're a little boy, which is not the same thing anyway, but whatever
>the relief is always temporary, because i know that ill always be a woman
This is also schizophrenia, this is a problem that exists entirely in your head, just fucking get rid of it
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>>43835140
>They think you're a little boy
no little boy on this earth has a beard be serious
>this is a problem that exists entirely in your head, just fucking get rid of it
retarded regurgitated advice. very pointless
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>>43835193
im just aware of reality, and the reality is that people treat you very differently when they find out that youre a tranny. you cant normally live with that shit because everyone you meet either turns your identity into a debate or just starts pitying you, and when they dont know youre forced to be subtly aware of their potential reaction. you can stop with your "pull yourself by the bootstarps" npc dialogue bullshit now, ive heard it 10000 times before and i never listen to it because it doesnt help. labelling this hyperawareness a neurosis changes nothing, some of us are fundamentally broken and unfixable this is why people kill themselves
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>>43835265
yea thats what i meant, no one thinking short pooners are men is kind of a given
>>43835270
being aware of reality sucks. lets take copium together
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>>43835270
I promise I've been doing this shit for longer than you have, the solution is genuinely to not tell anyone and just stop thinking about it. Get your head out of your ass. This level of constant hyperneuroticism over what people hypothetically could be thinking of you is narcissistic, fundamentally.
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>>43835308
>just stop thinking about it.
oh yeah, just like cis women stop thinking about the horrors of their own biology to get by. then if thats possible, why transition at all? id even be okay being a cis woman then
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>>43835325
If you've transitioned enough it's significantly easier to stop thinking about it. I don't really think about it at all other than when I'm posting here. Dysphoria is one thing, and having your head fully up your own ass with your own sphincter around your neck
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>>43835374
the problem is that im not you, we think differently because we were hardwired in different ways due to our upringings. i cant stop thinking about those things, it doesnt matter that its just in my head. if i could stop feeling this way i wouldnt be here
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>>43835473
The point of transitioning is lessening dysphoria to a manageable amount, yes, congratulations, you figured it out. If you've committed to being a man, thinking of yourself as a man and existing socially as a man is not "fooling yourself," it's just not being navelgazing goycattle
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>>43835490
I've seen the kind of retardbabble you post, maybe part of the reason you "can't stop thinking about it" is because you allow yourself to voice those thoughts and validate them constantly. And stop using your "upbringing" as an excuse to yourself, this is what I did when I was younger and it's also just narcissistic self-pity
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>>43835493
i actually think you might be goycattle for numbing yourself to the facts that you would otherwise never escape. the difference between nondysphoric cis women and dysphoric ones/trans men is simply their different degrees of delusion
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>>43835662
What facts, that I was born female? Who gives a fuck, it doesn't affect my life anymore so why should it affect my mental state or emotions? Most people don't walk around thinking about their sex organs and chromosomes all the time and neither do I
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>>43835525
>maybe part of the reason you "can't stop thinking about it" is because you allow yourself to voice those thoughts
i haven't posted here for like half a year or so, only talked to normies and kept that shit to myself and it never got any better. in fact it has gotten worse because it felt very isolating not having anyone i could share these thought with. i felt like i was living a lie
>And stop using your "upbringing" as an excuse
"stop using the thing that laid out the core aspects of your personality and worldview as an explanation for your thought patterns" its actually insulting that you thought that typing out this retarded bot bullshit is gonna make any difference
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>>43835735
>it felt very isolating not having anyone i could share these thoughts with
This is what a therapist is for
>"stop using the thing that laid out the core aspects of your personality and worldview as an explanation for your thought patterns"
You can use it as an explanation all you want, but stop using it as an excuse not to change
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>>43835935
i dont know why you think that would upset me, if anything i pity you for being so pathetic, broken and miserable that you feel the need to project that instead of feeling hope that you can be normal too
get some real problems you dumb bitch
>>43835959
no more mental CPU being taken up by bullshit. i make good money and have a nice place i relax a lot now.
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>>43836041
i think youll be fine and i went the med route. youll never be or feel normal by feeding into something very abnormal and making yourself a biological monstrosity. eventually it just piles up as you get older and becomes inconvenient to keep to the costume and customs and turns into the same problem with dysphoria and feeling like a mask or that you're being an imposter
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>>43829548
i revived her guys :D im so happpyyyy
i also think i mightve figured out one of the problems it might have when failing to POST, literally just had to add a screw lol it was just loose. and this whole time i was mourning the cpu and the motherboard thinking it was fried...
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>>43836609
Have you never felt like that about maleness? I thought things like this go both ways (I don't agree with the post, women are cool and human, but I can see how someone could end up thinking otherwise).
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>>43837225
I don't understand what can possibly be better about the male body, testosterone is actual poison, males cannot create life, and even though I am attracted to cis men in a sexual way I can't pretend that men are peak aesthetics of the human form
maleness is porous, hairy faces, it's baldness and ass hair, it's having a higher center of gravity which makes tipping over easier
just look at Elon Musk, a pure testosterone frog body
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>>43834869
>its just that many ftms do not actually wanna be men and thus regret their results when they actually turn into men
Why is there a contrast with trans women who actively want to be women and look like such, then?
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>>43837274
>males cannot create life
I don't think that most people care about this aspect.
And my question was more meant like "have you never felt about maleness the same way this person feels about femaleness?" As in, that men are not human, that maleness is a disease, etc. (I guess the disease thing might be close to how you feel about it from what you wrote there?)
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>>43837539
I could use the same argument than you concerning trans women
>because cis men are retards who wanna be special in order to forget that they are retards
and from personal experience cis women are less retarded than cis men, sooo
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>What can be better about the male body
look I get you don't want to look like a man but men are objectively faster,stronger, smarter, and better equipped to do every task under the sun. if you want to actually do shit than being a man is better. I understand if you don't want to do anything in life (I don't) but let's not pretend being a man isn't an advantage if you do.
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>>43837692
>cis women are less retarded than cis men
thats just cope and not true. theres a reason why most troons have wayyyy higher iq. cis women will never be human in the way that they are.
>>43836912
also laptop dead again. that didnt last long. but at least now i know the problem Might have to do with the dc jack and not the cpu like i thought, so thats much easier and affordable to replace, hopefully
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>>43839443
so your gigaclit that cant ejaculate, got it
>>43840758
im currently seeing a therapist i got recommended for my autism and i feel so infantilized bro its kinda funny in a pathetic way
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>>43840788
psychiatrists are more than capable of providing therapy, prescribing meds isnt their only function.
>>43840940
to be honest you do act like a child. or a young teenager
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I cannot stand MTFs who go on about how sex is meaningless, gender is fake, "it's all made up." Of course they would say that considering they were not born in a body destined to be fundamentally weaker than half of the entire world. They were not raised being told that they have a hole between their legs that is inherently dirty. They have never and will never face the ever-looming existential threat of knowing that anyone stronger than you could enter your body at any moment and not only force permanent changes in your body but create an entire new human being.
They can spend all day doing skirt spinnies, they can do HRT for years, they can get SRS, but it doesn't change the fact that gender exists in the first place is because of the reality of innate sexual dimorphism. The only reason women are seen as weak in general is because females actually are physically weaker and can give birth. When humans lived in huts and spoke in grunts, the women were not confined to the huts because the men just wanted to be unfair and prop up their "fragile masculinity."
There are no amounts of pharmacological tampering, surgical procedures, or endocrine regimens that can change the fact that males are physically stronger, have never been capable of giving birth or raised to do so, and can both rape and impregnate females.
Anything that refuses to acknowledge this is an endless cycle of playing with language to avoid confronting material reality and history. They will cry out in rage, tell you that you're implying intersex and infertile women aren't truly women, and even say that actually you're the misogynist for "reducing women to birth," when the reality is it is the entirety of human history which has done so. This is what all of society has been shaped around since the dawn of humanity, and gender is just another product of it. Abolishing gender isn't possible for as long as there are birthers and impregnators, which will exist for as long as humans do.
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>>43842784
Continued, I think I genuinely hate MTFs more than the proud masculine men who never hesitate to be misogynistic up front. They are at least honest and I know to avoid them. MTFs relish in thinking they are more like me than not, that they "understand me," that we are a part of the same struggle against gender. All while retaining the same traits as other men, just more likely to play the victim when they don't get what they want.
It would be nice if this weren't how things were, but that's like wishing you lived in a snow globe. But I love all of you. Regardless of why you resent being a woman. Regardless of if you don't hate it or hope to someday not hate it. Regardless of whether you try to be seen as a man or not. Regardless of whether you hate men or love them. I believe very strongly that we must support each other with these shared circumstances of ours.
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>>43842810
You are a sheep
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>>43842784
>Of course they would say that considering they were not born in a body destined to be fundamentally weaker than half of the entire world.
This
Easy for them to be a woman
I would be fine with being a "woman" if I was biologically male.
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>>43842810
You're just a gatekeeper doing it for completely selfish purposes
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My hobbies/interests are (almost) all stereotypically feminine along with my personality, I couldn't even butchcope if I wanted to because it would be inauthentic. No one would ever take me seriously as a straight man. Why can't I just make myself be fine with being a mildly femme lesbian
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>>43829136
why is there so much fuji bs, i want to be taken seriously then you guys are posting this fembrained shit
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>>43842784
>There are no amounts of pharmacological tampering, surgical procedures, or endocrine regimens that can change the fact that males are physically stronger
The US Army measured physical performance of FTM trannies vs cis men and those who had been taking T for years are no different from cissies in terms of strength. At all.
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>>43844001
most younger trans women today dont even want to assimilate. they see themselves as a third category and only want to hang out with each other and fuck each other. yet still demand to be seen as no different than cis women. its just literally not my problem
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>>43844001
Why is it our job to integrate them? Why do we have to pat their asses and play pretend? I thought the whole point was that they're no different from cis women, that biological differences are fake, that it's all meaningless and that no one can tell. Fuck off. This thread is for females. Literally zero females in the male repper thread yet you swarm here like flies. It's repulsive.
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>>43844001
Mtfs have no place in this thread. We cannot relate to each other at all.
I probably have more in common with cis man than a tranny.
Why do you need to come here anyways? You literally have whole board for yourself.
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>>43844044
So in other words you're actively working to gatekeep the female life and experience from amabs, just like I said
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>>43842784
>Abolishing gender isn't possible for as long as there are birthers and impregnators, which will exist for as long as humans do.
i actually intended to write about a world where this happens, but exactly like you said it wouldnt be possible as long as they exist, but theyll exist as long as they are needed. what if they arent needed anymore and people can give birth synthetically, then female humans disappear completely? i think that would probably give place to a true "gender abolition" environment. sad if you think too much about it but interesting to think about... and if you think about it, females would finally be spared from the pain of existing just to give birth and then die like you said
>>43842810
>MTFs relish in thinking they are more like me than not, that they "understand me," that we are a part of the same struggle against gender.
desu i kinda like this, but only because i like the idea of being gaslighted like that, reminds me that theres nothing i can do about it. you probably wouldnt understand if you arent masochistic but its pretty good
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>>43844001
It's not our job to accept, help or integrate them. Thats your own shit to worry about, I couldn't care less about you.
Stop being a retarded entitled man child and grow up, world doesn't give a shit about you.
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>>43844077
This is disinformation and fabrication, most afabs do not behave this way
>>43844100
Gatekeeping being female, not being a female repper
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>>43844071
>what if they arent needed anymore and people can give birth synthetically, then female humans disappear completely?
the problem is that the Y chromosome keeps degrading and it cant properly reassemble itself. look it up its the reason why men are faced with so many fertility issues nowadays, the Y is falling apart . unfortunately the only efficient monosex world would be a strictly female one, and im glad that i wont live long enough to see that nightmare come to life. just foids endlessly talking to other foids and shitting out more foids out of their cunts, thank god that i will be a female skeleton laying in the ground by that point
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>>43844136
>most afabs do not behave this way
Is this purely a frequency issue? Quick, base your whole personality on surveys. And why are you here in the first place? Statistically, most afabs do not use 4chan. They use weibo and speak Mandarin.
Now if you weren't a drooling retard (impossible), you would have realized that being afab or amab can't be gatekept, but it's too late for you. Let's all pray.
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I know very little of genetics so I can't tell whether this might actually happen, but suppose it does, would they all be lesbian? Imagine a world of straight women with no men around. They would be so miserable.
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my personal (completely unbiased btw) ranking
female reppers > normie women > detrans women > trans women (HSTS assimilated) > normie men > detrans men > trans men > theyfabs > male reppers > trans women (AGP unassimilated)
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>>43844199
I struggle to understand what argument you're making. I'm saying that you and the people in this thread are refusing to consider amabs female, refusing to interact with them as women, actively working to keep away amabs and exclude them from the female community, etc. And for that, in an ideal world, you would be in prison, but unfortunately you're not
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>>43844224
strength of will in acceptance of fate, usually radical feminist and well-read. ftms tend to proliferate misogyny and make me hate myself even more for being female. dont like male reppers much though because they usually only refuse to transition because they are aware its because of porn and fetishes and still talk about how badly they want it in disgusting ways
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>>43844199
>would they all be lesbian?
we still dont exactly know if sexuality is genetic or something that you get molded into. if it turns out to be socialization based then most of them would be dykes i suppose. if not then the straighties will have to suffer, but honestly who cares? humanity has always been miserable, and straight women have no idea what they want. most of them stay with their retarded wifebeating husbands and birth them equally retarded children
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>>43844236
Most of women, repper or not, don't have almost anything in common with amabs/trans women. And this is literally a repper thread (I think alot of women can go in the femrepper category) , why the fuck would trans women need to be included here.
I thought you want to be a woman, not man?
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>>43844321
>outside of it
I don't post outside of this thread.
>>43844297
>Since when do you have to be afab to be female?
Since forever, because that's a same fucking thing.
Most of anons in this thread don't want to transition because nobody wants to be a "female man"/ ftm.
Trans man is still an AFAB (female, woman) , so what's the point of taking HRT if I can't be a real man?
You already know this. You're not going to change the way we think and this thread will just raise your cortisol.
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>>43844162
lol imagine if the result of the "gender abolition" i mentioned earlier where females disappear is just males biologically turning back into females developing uteruses and ovaries and all that just like clownfish lmao
>just foids endlessly talking to other foids and shitting out more foids out of their cunts
yea pretty much just like that. but at least without true moids around theyre hopefully able to eventually develop enough malebrained autism equivalent to an agp trannys and thus start the cycle all over again somehow
if not then humanitys just doomed to go extinct.
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or maybe reinvent heterosexuality from first principles
>>43844213
heres mine:
trans women (AGP) > trans women (HSTS) > pooners > theymabs > detransitioners (mtf) > malereppers > cis men > femreppers > detransitioners (ftm) > common theyfabs > obnoxious gender goblins > cis women
>>43844504
but hrt turns you biologically male dummy!!!1!!1 it doesnt matter that you dont have certain anatomy, just dont call it "biological", because its erm... kinda transphobic dood...
>>43844530
male socialization doesnt exist. you have Grass is Greener Syndrome
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>>43844613
Being born female is the original sin. The first person in the Bible to commit a sin was a woman. We were created by Satan. God will never forgive us for what we did or for who we are.
A literal devils spawn.
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>>43844611
Yeah afabs are only good for getting raped and pumping out babies from their raped axe wound and becoming more retarded in the process, I would rather humans go extinct than live as a foid for another day
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>>43844621
well good thing the bible isnt real right
what if women are supposed to be like angels, and trans women just get "rewarded more" (from your perspective) because their efforts actually pay off? we are born into this and have to make no such effort. its no wonder trans women would deserve so much more for being so brave to go on (◕‿◕) women are not sinners!!!
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Theyfab mtf chasers are so hilarious. You basically addmited few times that trans women are men, yet you keep cock sucking them in every single thread.
Not even you believe in the shit you say, all you do is project your retarded kikomi "dysphoria" into others.
Can't you just find some hon that will fuck you and leave?
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>>43844671
No tf it wasn't "equally shared" he just joined because he knew that the woman was a fucking retard and men are still normal human beings to this day but women are just cows with a bleeding rape hole
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>>43844708
their "virtue" is endlessly sacrificing themselves and cooking food for their mediocre boyfriends that call them cunts and bitches and faking orgasms while he fucks them and sucking dick on command, and then they destroy their already inferior bodies with pregnancy only to create another retarded slab of meat that will go on to create more and more useless, mediocre, slabs of meat. forgivness and self sacrifice are only virtous in fiction, in real life there is nothing vistous about women, thats like saying that someone keeping their guts clogged with tapeworms because they dont wanna kill them is noble. i hate them, i hate their empathy, and i hate their endless sappy tirades about positivity and "self-acceptance"
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Women bleed for a whole fucking week because we are sinners.
Women shit out kids in pain because we are sinners.
Women are more connected with satan than men. That's why witch hunt existed.
The Bible says that a woman is unclean during her period. In the Book of Leviticus, menstruation is described as a state of ritual impurity. A ritual from where?
Probably from the deepest depths of hell.
Female biology, and women in general, were created by lucifer, he take inspiration from female demons to create us. We are the devils spawn and that's why we will always suffer, to pay for our sins which cannot be repaid.
You cannot transition from female to male because you can't get rid of the original sin that will haunt you forever including afterlife.
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>>43844834
to love a woman as a woman one must first love themselves as a woman. so they think whoever does that is disgusting by default
>>43844850
iphones are for goycattle i wanna buy laptop...
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>>43844858
i forgot to add this is also why i think transbians might be even more true than cisbians because you can be sure that they really love themselves as women, possibly more than cis women do by "denying reality" or whatever forestchan was going on about. it just works better
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>>43844910
duality of foids
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T. seething gaydens
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>>43844923
I used descriptive past tense, not that it was merely in the past before transitioning according to theyfab. So that's why I'm confused why they say transbians are both not women and yet better than cis lesbians for loving being a woman
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>>43844916
i mean yeah but that doesnt mean they are men. just that they were at one point and had to put in the effort to no longer be seen like that. either way that doesnt mean we can just say that and expect no repercussions, it is indeed very heckin offensive and we should never question the legitimacy of trans womens experiences with womanhood growing up. we know it more than anyone after all, being treated like a fag is the same as being treated as less than human, and for us growing up as women was like being less than human, so technically they had the same experiences as us (◕‿◕)
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>>43844941
Pooners who love mtfs are just typical wombyn who want attention from quirky /"safe" males and they're a gigantic cock suckers pick me bitches.
They think troons are "impressed" by their drawings in reality they just laugh at them.
Pooners who love mtfs are like a retarded jesters.
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>>43844962
>so technically they had the same experiences as us
I don't think cis gays go through the same childhood as AFABs, and from what I've seen most but not all trans women have had a different childhood than AFABs as well
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>>43844970
>want attention from quirky /"safe" males
not really, i am aware of their dangers and attracted to them because of this
>They think troons are "impressed" by their drawings in reality they just laugh at them.
i actually draw for them to laugh at it!
>Pooners who love mtfs are like a retarded jesters.
nice grammar but yeah pretty accurate if its referring to me
>>43844981
it does tho
>>43844997
youre a gay pedophile (◕‿◕) and you dont wanna be a fembooy, you just wish you were a trans woman because you see them all as men!
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>>43845060
nope, this one. my dad has one but he uses it for work, so i need to get another one but it has to be this one. it might arguably be a low end processor but from what ive seen from that one it performs a lot better than the one i am currently using (which i got in 2019)
>>43845091
who said i was doing it to do myself any good? maybe i just like doing it for the love of the game.
>>43845094
its the trvth though
>>43845121
you eventually would, you dont wanna be an ugly balding pedophile!
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>>43845082
10. This is a Domenico Morelli board.
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>>43845082
its a good decision. nowadays only women ever draw. its especially egregious if you have "oc`s". i talk to myself down every single day of my life because i know that no moid on earth enjoys this bullshit. hyperfoided hobby
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lmao
>>43845244
yea you cant opt out of your female anatomy unless youre really wealthy but i agree that like the example you mentioned, "girlmoder" pooners who dress and act hyperfem arent real. they literally can just be masculine women and get over themselves
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>>43844970
>They think troons are "impressed" by their drawings in reality they just laugh at them.
I wasn't a trans woman at the time so idk if that counts, but years ago a trans man friend drew me, and I still have it with me because I just love it so much c:
I still love that even at the time he never saw me as a boy
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>>43844724
>What's the use of being prettier??
Beautiful people get treated well even by children with no concept of what is socially acceptable, which has been proven a thousand times over, both anecdotally and through research. Before you go on a rant about sex and fuckability, I habe to say that beautiful people get treated better by everyone, under any circumstances. You can see how that's helpful.
Women are universally regarded as better looking AND in most parts of the world they take better care of their bodies and style. Despite what cartoons and young adult shows say, appearances do matter.
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No. The virtues in question are restraint, thoughtfulness, and the ability to coexist with things without trying to violate them, all of which are more common with women.
>forgivness and self sacrifice are only virtous in fiction
The world is only standing because some people take risks and make sacrifices for the sake of others. I realize you are incredibly misogynistic, so I'll frame it in such a way even your ass can understand:
>man works a risky job for family, destroying his health and body laying carpets, etc
>man virtuous
>woman does similar things
>WOMAN BAD REEEEE FOIDS AEEEE
I think you should touch grass for a while. Some other posters, too. In fact, if you want to be a man out of internalized misogyny, you're in a good place, relatively speaking, because it's the kind of problem that could be mitigated or fixed, unlike transgenderism.
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>>43845500
I can't help my taste in fujoslop
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>>43845534
restraint is just a synonym for getting cucked over and over again and never taking up too much space
>man works a risky job for family, destroying his health and body laying carpets, etc
this is an idealized scenario that barely exists irl, but hes still a cuck if he does this. self sacrification is a psyop. you should live for yourself and die for yourself
>if you want to be a man out of internalized misogyny, you're in a good place, relatively speaking, because it's the kind of problem that could be mitigated
thats not the only reason why i want to be a man, its just that its impossible to separate all of that bullshit from genuine dysphoria. you cant be a dysphoric female without at least a little bit of "internalized mysogyny" mixed in there
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>>43845621
I can't help it that you're retarded. You have misinterpreted most of what I said, pretended words don't mean what they have always meant (defining restraint as cuckoldry), and rejected whole facets of reality (who do you think built your roads, cleaned your sewers, and sweated in the construction site that is now your house?). I can see no point in arguing further. Sometimes you say based things, kind of like a broken clock that's correct twice a day, but now you're spiraling. Sad.
>its just that its impossible to separate all of that bullshit from genuine dysphoria
Possible. It takes time.
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>>43845500
the way ftms talk about trans shit is honestly a lot more grounded and relatable, mtfs barely seem aware of things like internalized misandry, plus you don't skirt around "dirty" subjects like having your trans awakening to porn as much
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>pretended words don't mean what they have always meant (defining restraint as cuckoldry)
restraint is an abstract concept it doesnt not have a concrete defintion, i see it how i see it. i take what i can when i can. the fetishization of restraint in our society is a vestige of the past
>and rejected whole facets of reality (who do you think built your roads, cleaned your sewers, and sweated in the construction site that is now your house?)
i never denied that men work these occupations, its just that your sentimental example of a father slaving away at one of those jobs is an idealized fantasy. the same men who do this usually verbally abuse their children and wives. reproduction is morally repugnant in general, but its even less virtuous to reproduce without having the money for it
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>>43845911
abstract concepts are routinely defined every day otherwise we would have no laws and few science fields left, you deficient nog.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/justice
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>>43846056
>yes, you still can
and it will be subjective. just like me not finding any virtue in self sacrifices (male and female) or "restraint" is subjective. if its inmaterial it is most likely subjective
>you just want to seethe about women
partly. i only use this board for whinning on femrepgen. otherwise its useless
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>>43846122
forestchan is it okay if i see you more as a man than a woman, you just have a distinct way of thinking that isnt as retarded and contradictory as terfs yet not as goycattle and delusional as trans men. others may beg to differ but i think your stance is very interesting to read
>>43846159
who fucking cares about dialectics we stopped talking about that like 5 minutes ago
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>>43846140
why do you keep defending me this is gay as fuck
>>43846159
there are non hegelian dialectics but this thread is a cesspool that i dump all of my bile into i dont want to argue about that right now
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