It's called autism. You probably got the idea that you wanted to be a woman because it was something introjected into your inner world from mimetic influence, like that anime image you attached. You fell in love not with being a woman but with the idea of womanhood as represented in images of representations of an idea. This is the case for most detransitioners, femboys, weebshits, and AGP sissies.

And yes most gay men are misogynists. Go to a drag show, maybe it will help you get over only existing in your head.

>>43842996
Retard I'm autistic too.
I miss my anti-androgen for 48 hours and the symptoms of dysphoria start coming back.
I sometimes have nightmares that my tits are gone, and when I wake up and feel them there I feel relieved.
I am diagnosed by a professional as gender incogruent.
I am epistimologically sure I am a transsexual female.

And the fact that you not only don't assume the obvious scientific explaination for my trans status, but ALSO have to induct some stupid obviously false psuedo-scientific explaination for why I exist at all, makes me dismiss absolutely everything you say unless proven by three other sources.

And if I have three sources on something I still don't need to listen to you.

Does that explain your place in my world?

>>43842967
>I am a woman (trans)
Being a woman requires you to be born with a pussy, sorry but you lost the genetic lottery. Better luck next time. You are your father's son.

Yeah there's gay misogynists but you probably won't find them in classic gay communities
Also not liking other women is normal it's called being a bitch and there's a lot of salty women like that

>>43843032
fuck off faggot

>>43843042
Rich words coming from a man who larps as a woman

>>43843014
>some retarded dogtor diagnosed me with something so it must be true
you are not as smart as you think you are

>>43843035
>Yeah there's gay misogynists but you probably won't find them in classic gay communities
Where do they hang out? What are they like? Are they all like political and stuff like the manhating dykes? Or are they just like fuck bitches aquire currency chad alphas that only hang around in special clubs or something?

>Also not liking other women is normal it's called being a bitch and there's a lot of salty women like that
Yeah I guess I'm kind of a bitch.
Is it okay that I'm okay with that?

>>43843071
You're exactly as smart as I think you are.

The stupidest part about you is that you actually seem to believe in your own inflated sense of self-importance. You're not my worthy opponent, or my intellectual foil, we're not on opposite sides of some issue.

You're a noisy nuissance who can't seem to take the hint.

>>43843080
Being mtf and hating women is called being a loser i think

>>43843014
I wasn't doubting that you feel this way. I'm certain that you do. But dysphoria is just that, dysphoria. It's a feeling. It's discomfort with the state of things. It does not "make you a woman." If you've assimilated and pass then yes, you're socially seen as a woman. But hating women is malebrained and on some level shows you don't even see yourself as a woman deep down. What is anyone supposed to do about that? Is that really women's fault? No amount of anime girl posting or makeup or FFS could ever fix that.

>>43843091
>The noise continues
Let's get this straight you unironic fuckwit.
YOU DO NOT GET AN OPINION HERE
What I am trying and apparently failing to explain to you is that you continually trying to have an opinion here marks you as a complete moron who has nothing to contribute to my life on ANY OTHER TOPIC either.

You are beneath contempt, and I'm not actually listening to anything you say.

>>43843014
>I miss my anti-androgen for 48 hours and the symptoms of dysphoria start coming back.
Are you sure this is a symptom of testosterone in your body instead of nocebo? Have you done any blind tests where you take fake anti-androgens without your knowledge and check on your symptoms?

>>43843111
whole ass nigga having a melty even when the foid bent the knee and said if you pass and assimilate youre also a foid lmao its never enough for malebrained gigahons

The OP of this thread is either very autistic or baiting

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>>43843120
>I am literally unable to take the hint even when it's explained to me in completely unambigious plain english

>>43843128
Or maybe someone can actually discuss this without a million retards derailing the thread.

>>43843014
>I miss my anti-androgen for 48 hours and the symptoms of dysphoria start coming back.
placebo. not possible on a physiological level. at most it's a reaction to hormonal fluctuations causing neurotransmitter instability which is why if you're on hrt you probably need a psychiatrist on speeddial. but even that is unlikely due to the halflife of these drugs and prolonged effects.
i understand ur trying to appeal to "science" to prove ur trans instead of just life itself tho

>>43842967
As a gay guy I don't really encounter man hating lesbians. Maybe they just don't count us in their hate?

>>43843129
I don't know man, just taking your word doesn't seem very scientific to me, which you seem to want to uphold. And why are you acting like this? This is a completely valid question, are you confusing me with the other guy in the thread?

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i'm going to hit you with an evil misandry spell that will make you furiously despise all men at 9pm tomorrow, be ready

>>43843136
everyone who doesn't tell you "yass queen PLENTY of REEL WIMMIN hate wimmin, YOURE VALID" gets called a retard. why bother making a thread with an open ended question if youre just gonna have a spazz attack when you get any answer that doesnt fit what you alredy tell yourself

>>43843128
All TIMs are autistic.
>>43843146
Gay bros are okay, I just don't have a lot in common with you beyond being homosexual.

>>43843158
WHETHER YOU TAKE MY WORD OR NOT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THE EXISTENCE OF ALL LIFEFORMS EVERYWHERE ESPECIALLY MINE

YOU
DO
NOT
GET
A
VOTE

>>43843032
and its just a phase, honey. You'll grow out of it eventually and have grandkids.

>>43843161
Because nobody is going to answer it.
I already know I'm a real woman. That was not the question.
What I want to know is are there other trans women who feel the same way.

Instead I've got a bunch of unironic morons trying to rediagnose me as if that is something they actually get to do.

>>43843145
>hormones have no effect on the brain
Things radfems unironically believe.

>>43843171
Oh so you have never done any blind tests, thank you for telling me its most likely nocebo.

>>43843032
Your organs were made with the sole purpose of PIV sex and impregnation :)

>>43843193
You're welcome now leave so I don't have to endure your stupidity any longer.

>>43843054
Rich words coming from a female delusionally denying its biological purpose and responsibility :))

>>43843190
If you're high E I don't think taking anti-androgens should have that big of an impact. Tbh

>>43843182
Spoken like a true man.

>>43843185
you've got a sea of women cis and trans telling you no nobody feels this way. and then a homo but he answered your second question, which you asked

>>43843204
See >>43843202
and >>43843171

AGP brickhons are the worst, they really do just want to larp as anime girls all day and threaten to kill anyone who questions anything they say. OP is probably old as fuck too

>>43843210
Nobody is telling me that.
In fact the only actual answers I've had are
>You're just a bitch, lots of women are bitches
and
>yeah there are plenty of gay misogynists

Everyone else has spouted what they think is psuedo-scientific verisimilitude, but is actually just moron noises. You're all not smart enough to know that you sound stupid.

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the rate at which this thread is blowing up implies at least five sharty bots have coalesced into firing upon eachother,

yet again

>>43843233
I'm actually lowkey shocked that this was the lightning rod.
But they're not shartoids, they're some sort of Jewish terfclub that learned about 4chan in a classroom.

>>43842996
Woman is not manufactured personality bred by environment. World is a spectrum, trying to make every one fit into boxes autistic. These boxes cause friction.

>>43843014
Don't listen to the psychopathic terfoids. We only live once. If they are cissoids and they would be transitioned against their will they would become dysphoric. Hating those close minded people is okay cause they are evil. No point wasting time on them. They are not here to debate. But trying to just waste your time the parasites they are. They are only ones larping as intellectual spewing their bullshit fanfiction.

Harsh reality is that most people are evil especially cis people.

>>43843209
glad I could get your father's impression down pat.

>>43842967
actual terfs very rarely ever use 4chan so despite not knowing the context I'm just going to assume you are a retard who was baited into arguing with gincel

>>43843242
You're not wrong except for this bit
>Harsh reality is that most people are evil especially cis people.
These people aren't most people. These people don't realize how much nobody likes them because they've never been around people who actually do like them.

>>43843242
that post was about detransitioners, femboys, weebshits, and AGP sissies, not trans women. dont lump yourself in with OP lol

>>43843255
>flag
You're right, but in the last couple of days they've showed up, and they almost always use flags.

>>43843228
>psuedo-scientific verisimilitude, but is actually just moron noises. You're all not smart enough to know that you sound stupid.
classic autism ego over inflating your own intelligence, you sound like a cartoon baby villain

>>43843242
Trying to push other into those boxes is definition of autistic behavior, all terfs are this. Obsessive hatred is rooted from their insecurities. No matter how hard they try to claim it is trans peoples existence. No sane person is obsessed with hating people for existing. It is not hard to sympathize with trans. There is nothing more cringe than seeing some of you reveling in that self induced misery by listening terfs fascist rhetoric.

>>43843275
>this will actually mean something as long as the person I'm talking to isn't actually autistic
Like I said, you're too stupid to know how stupid you are.

>>43843256
Understandable of you to think of that, but my experience with life proves it.

>>43843275
You're posts look like youtube comments not 4chan posts.

>>43843300
>>43843288
nigga are you 40 or 14

>>43843264
Gincel incorporates the flags into his larps every June newfag

>>43843298
No sweetheart, you mustn't think that way.
Most people are just normal, they're stupid, they're scared because they never seem to know what's going on, and they're just existing until they don't any more.

Forgive them their mortal frailties.

It's okay for you to not like them tho.

>>43843275
>trying to manipulate an austist with shame and name calling
ngmi

>>43843258
Agp is female nature. If cis woman was born as amab and raised in this world, they would literally end up showing that behavior. They already do despite being cis woman. But keep living in fantasy and your lies spread by close minded people like blanchard. Im a tranny.

>>43843310
Nah these unironic foids are newfoids.
Tho I'm pretty sure I've attracted some zogbots here for unknown reasons.
Plus the mod, and I have no idea what he's doing here.

>>43843285
>No sane person is obsessed with hating people for existing
I didn't used to find trannies bothersome before you took over literally every single "lesbian" space online. It's so tiresome to look for lesbian stuff and it's a majority trannies. If you had kept to yourself instead of flooding everything there would be no issue. I have no obligation to validate your mental illness and the armada of troons handing out rape threats left and right do you no favours.

>>43843324
>If cis woman was born as amab
Most logical "sex is fake" poster

>>43843331
>I came to a tranny space because I really really really don't like trannies
most logical terf

>>43843331
hang out more in femrepgen >>43842784

>>43843331
Nobody owes you anything just like you are not forced to date them. If you were forcibly transitioned you be that "mental illness". You are not a victim. Nobody is handing out rape threads, but you are handing out dehumanization and malicious lies.

>>43843344
When I started using this board in 2013 or whatever it wasn't 99.8% trannies. You're the invader.

>>43843351
>Trying to explain to a radfem that she's not the victim
Ambitious.

>>43843353
>when i started using the board in 2013
Either LARP or the most pathetic ""person"" in existence lmfao

>>43843353
When you started using this board it was a week ago and you've been constantly told to fuck off because nobody wants you here ever since.
Don't try to out oldfag me, this is now and always has been the no girls club.

>>43843335
Handheld you through it, and you have no response. If you have critical thinking ability you know this being the truth.

>>43843327
I doubt it. Anyways you sound like a total nutcase and should probably stop posting for the benefit of everyone, yourself included.

>>43843351
>Nobody is handing out rape threats
Yes, tranny moids are. And they cry constantly about lesbians not wanting their dicks. "Genital preference" and "cotton ceiling" ring a bell? You are the lowest tier of men to exist, failmen who try to emulate the thing they can't get. Normies hate you for a good reason.
>>43843369
>When you started using this board it was a week ago
If that makes you feel better, Mr. Timothy.

>>43843357
Lmao only trannies are here a victim you as a ciswoman in the west is no victim of any kind. You live in fantasy. Terfs are just female chuds

>>43843380
Opinion discarded.
This bitch >>43843384 is brand fucking new and I'm pretty sure you are too.

>>43843344
This post was not trans dominant for most of its existence but trans shit is like the borg and socially infectious because it is a literal meme. It's not 2006 anymore, most trans women are barely even dysphoric, they don't care about assimilating into womanhood, they don't want to be part of the female sex. It's become a third thing for most people and this thread is proof of that, yet because identity is a sacred cow, people like OP expect to be treated identically to both cis women and trans women who have put in the effort to assimilate and pass as soon as possible. Guarantee the other posters are right about what OP looks and acts like irl based on this thread, probably hates cis lesbians for not wanting to fondle cock too. And for the record I'm nothing but supportive to trans women who actually want to be women instead of some fucked up third thing that only exists when posting online. Complete fucking scourge and ruined everything. The current campaign against trans people WOULD NOT EXIST without people like OP becoming the most loud fucking voice for trans women.

>>43843387
>I did not get the joke

>>43843391
>is brand fucking new
Lol, sure little boy. Been here from the start and that has shown me how vile and disgusting your kind is.

>>43843384
Listen you fat ugly sack of shit, nobody, and I mean FUCKING NOBODY, is trying to rape you.
You couldn't catch a dick if you paid for it.

The reason you can't get laid on lesbian dating apps is because they like you about as much as we do.

>>43843384
>genital preference
How did I know this was shitting around in ur mind somewhere? Of course you let the rapehons get to you.
Most of us are normal and know how to take "no" for an answer for whatever reason lmfao
Have fun ending up like the log cabin republicans, sis.

>>43843400
See this is what happens when you train the Ai on my old shitposts.

>>43843384
You are the lowest subhuman bunch, punching most vulnerable minorities who have done nothing but exist. These rape threats are not real. You have never gotten one. Keep spewing your fascist rhetoric, and begging attention from trannies in tranny threads mentally ill psychopath. Bad people exist in all places and you are the worst kind. Political lesbian

>>43843403
>fat
I have a BMI of 18, but nice try.
>ugly
I get men hitting on me all the time (yuck) and get plenty of likes from women on the apps. Are you projecting perhaps?
>FUCKING NOBODY, is trying to rape you
Yes, trannies rarely leave their homes. Thankfully. Doesn't stop them from sexually harrassing real women online though.
>Most of us are normal
Right, that's why most tranny spaces end up a circlejerk of penis, diaper and pet play talk?

>>43842967
>I'm a troon who is virulently misogynistic, does this make me special?
No, it doesn't. You think that makes you unique? Literally EVERY troon despises women. It's a core part of what you are.

>>43843412
>vulnerable minorities
Heterosexual men are not a vulnerable minority, what are you on about?

>>43843432
That's because trannies are incel men through and through.

>>43843432
"despises women" if you think jealousy is hate then ok i guess

>>43843369
>>43843391
HOLY SHIT I SHOULD HAVE FUCKING KNOWN
Nvm about the yourself included bit, you should stop posting anywhere ever. If the "terfs" who post on /lgbt/ were actually real terfs then every post you make would be like giving them another ideological victory. I like real trannies and the fact that they get associated you genuinely upsets me.
Yes that's correct I am certainly more new than you, I didn't spend decades raging on /pol/ like a middle aged Australian man with anger issues before mentally snapping and hopping over to here.

>>43842967
thanks op for posting my current thoughts and insecurities

>>43843430
>fetishes
And youre so saintly yourself, gay girl. lol, lmao
And the worst u could come up with was penis, diapers, and pet play. im pretty sure only diapers is beyond normiespace.
This is without mentioning that it doesnt matter what consenting adults do or are into. Isnt that what youre fighting for?

>>43843430
>if I lie about how hot I am that will make you feel bad
Bitch please, if you could get laid you wouldn't be spouting shit on 4chan
You learned everything you know about LGBTQ reading cheap erotica, it's so obvious it hurts.

>>43843432
I don't think that's true.

>>43843461
>I actually recognize you
And not a single one of the newfoids has.
Take your flag off retard, that's normie shit.

>>43843463
You feel this way too? I've been struggling with it.

>>43843471
She's not even gay, she's just unfuckable.
Calling your vibrator a girls name does not make you a lesbian.

>>43843476
Don't even reply to me you beast

>>43843486
I replied to you.
And the fact you have detailed files on me demonstrates your semitism.

>>43843476
>You learned everything you know about LGBTQ reading cheap erotica
Again, if that makes you feel better lol. Just like me being a woman, that comes from my real life experience. Somehing you'll never have because you're a man by biology. Cope and seethe. I'd say dilate too but you AGPs are very reluctant to get rid of your male genitalia aren't you?
I don't associate with any letter beyond the "G".
>>43843478
>unfuckable
No such thing as an unfuckable woman, if you have a vagina you can get laid. And I'm not talking about with men, bicurious and bislut girls are very, very easy.

>>43843499
>No such thing as an unfuckable woman
Yes there is. You.
You're a complete waste of a uterus and your "political lesbianism" is hilarious larp.

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>>43843476
I only just recently had this conclusion and it makes me feel more lonely than i already am. but at least you know how it feels

>>43843503
>political lesbian
Mr. Timothy, I'm a homosexual because I want to fuck women. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop projecting your own experiences as an incel man on women. We live on completely different planets.

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>>43843499
>id say dilate too
Pheww thats one I havent heard in a while.
It honestly made me laugh.

I dont like you, but shit, I wish the retards could hang as well as you do.

>>43843504
What do you do with it tho?
Like I'm just sitting with it for now, it's an honest feeling and I'm letting myself have it without trying to twist it into something political like I would have done in the past. But how "part of me" is this? How big of a role is this supposed to play in my life?

Or am I supposed to get over it and pretend to like women anyway or something?

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>>43843493
Oh we know everything about you "Emily"
What do you think the hidden microphones inside your computer have been providing us?
You'd better turn it off and RIP THEM OUT NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

>>43843509
>I want to fuck women
*LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*

>>43843509
You want to fuck women because you realized no men want to fuck you so you're doing what all uggos do and pre-rejecting all men.
That's what "political lesbian" means.

Now you're also discovering that no woman wants to touch you either, and you're blaming "men" for that too.

It's as if you think I've never met a radfem before.

>>43843499
>with any letter beyond the "G".
>woman
LMFAOOOOO

>>43843525
Holy shit Israel really isn't sending their best these days.
I am the hacker known as 4chan. There are no recording devices connected to my computer, there never has been. That's got nothing to do with you, I've been Anonymous for a long time.

>>43843539
stop falling into terf fantasies by saying the exact same shit male chuds say to women on a daily basis ffs its so fucking over. may as well tell her to choke on ur gock next fucking moron

>>43843539
>no men want to fuck you
I don't understand why you men say this, when the average male would fuck a hole in the ground. Getting laid with women is muuuuuch harder. Doesn't work as a rebuttal does it? Men fuck anything with a pulse (and sometimes without a pulse).
>radfem
I'm not a feminist, I just don't like trannies.

>>43843353
>youre the invader
desu cis women never belonged to this website, post tits or gtfo

>>43843553
>Anonymous
i was right, you're an out of touch john50 with rapid onset dysphoria after seeing one too many epic reddit poasts. explains everything

>>43843555
It's not just male chuds saying it, everyone is saying it. Because it's true.
>>43843558
>when the average male would fuck a hole in the ground.
Yeah, which really says a lot about you, who can't even catch horny old pervert dick.

>>43843571
>this is supposed to make sense in context
At least you stopped memeflagging like a retard.

>>43843572
You are a male chud, Timothy.

>>43843558
>im not a feminist
So whats the plan?

>>43843572
you genuinely give trans women a bad name and the fact that people like me are lumped in with you is a failure of society

>>43843583
>>43843572
stupid hon that's me not the terf. jesus christ

>>43842967
Is she pooping?

>>43843592
I feel like you don't understand the meaning of misogynist.

>>43843584
It's funny that you think twitter insults mean anything here.

>>43843605
mb im retarded

>>43843595
>stupid hon that's me not the terf. jesus christ
Yeah I know. The Jew who had the bisexual flag up and was posting in polshit threads all day.
You know I've been here long enough to remember the actual JIDF. If they saw you they'd be ashamed.

>>43843584
You're literally a faggot larping as a terf stfu
>>43843551

>>43843523
I'm not sure.. But I think everybody gets tired of each other at some point and sometimes you could use a break from them even from yourself. And what we really need is to be excepted by one another not by masses but each individual deserves this Love. Not liek pride witch is generally about fighting to be allowed to be your tru self. More like love, acceptance, connections these are important...

>>43843605
Just like you think typical male insults directed towards women mean anything? If you want me to play along with your delusions that you're totally a heckin valid woman, you should try better than that.

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>>43843553
>I am the hacker known as 4chan

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>>43843619
i'm not a jew and i've never used memeflags but have fun reminiscing about being an old man who will never assimilate and gets off on making the rest of us look like malebrained sociopaths who hate women and spend all day crashing out. good job

>>43843622
>You're literally a faggot larping as a terf
Am I now? Why in the world would a gay dude do that? And I'm not a terf by definition, the two last letters stand for "Radical Feminist" and I'm not a feminist.

>>43843555
You are replying to a terf fantasy brought to life, high level tulpamancy gone wrong.

>>43843396
This desu
OP please try to become less outwardly and unapologetically malebrained and misogynist
No it's weird to be misogynist as a trans woman
This sort of thing is indeed why people hate us

>>43843623
Yeah but you've got to accept yourself first right?
So we're accepting this part of ourselves, that we don't like women, or at least most women, and that we prefer the company of men, not just sexually but socially too.
And in our own little space we've not accepted this part of ourselves, but in a broader social context I'm not sure I understand where that puts us.

I know for a fact that there are plenty of cis women who just generally prefer the company of men. Certainly when they're younger they have a crew of male friends in which they're the token girl, they might have an official BFF but they don't really hang around with them. I don't know what happens to them when they get older but I certainly remember them when I was younger.

So is that what I am? Or is this an autist/tranny thing?

>>43843638
>Unironic sharty memes
>Everyone else is the problem
Okay

>>43843625
The only thing I want you to do is leave me alone.
I feel like I've made that more than clear.
I don't like you, I understand you don't like me and I don't care, so go away and we can both not be a part of each other's lives.

>>43843682
>and we can both not be a part of each other's lives
And this is accomplished by you accepting you're a man.

>>43843655
>care about optics
>you have to be le heckin feminist!
No. Seriously, fucking no.
I spent decades trying to be what society told me I had to be.
I'm not doing that any more.

>>43843697
>female logic
You can't do it can you? You can't just leave. You HAVE to involve yourself in a space where it has been made repeatedly clear that you're unininvited, unwelcome, and unwanted.

Have you ever actually been in a space where you were actually wanted? Because it seems to me that you are so used to this treatment that you think this is just the way people treat each other. It isn't. It's just the way people treat you.

>>43843705
I mean ideally you would be feminist genuinely because you cared about women's rights and success in this world but yeah. It's not just not being feminist, everything you've posted in this thread screams malebrained in a bad way.

>>43843697
You are a GRID ridden retarded man

>>43843670
well I know for a fact there are women with only guy friends so maybe this could be you or maybe it's just a phase. But ultimately you decide based on what feels most comfortable.

>>43843716
>involve yourself in a space where it has been made repeatedly clear that you're unininvited, unwelcome, and unwanted.
Wow...just like trans identified males do in women's spaces?

>>43842967
I don't know if there's misogynistic gays but I'm a misogynistic chaser. Trans women are real women but the fact they grew up as boys makes them marginally less retarded that cis women and its extremely noticeable which is why I became a chaser. The first time I was with a transgirl I got such a huge crush on her because it felt like the first time in my life I met a slightly less stupid than I expected a woman to be

>>43843744
>>43843752
sage, cringe

>>43843705
dont worry sis youre heccin valid, when you call yourself a woman at 50 it actually DOES magically make everything about you feminine, INCLUDING hating bitches

>>43843736
Read this >>43843014 and understand how much I don't care about this malebrained/femalebrained AGP/HSTS whaverthefuck/jewishbullshit shit.

I don't need you to tell me what I am, I already know what I am. Why the fuck you think you get a vote is the real mystery.

Also if you want to talk about malebrained, being afraid of your emotions is about as malebrained as it gets. Being honest about your emotions is a female privilege.

>>43843738
Yeah I guess that's the bottom line right.
I don't know, I feel like this is impacting decisions about my life path that I'm not understanding is all.

>>43843762
>Jewish noises
It's crazy that you think I have any other enemies except you.
I literally changed board culture from hateboxxing to support and validation because it's what I needed it to be and you're acting like your bullshit is impacting anything.
The world is turn on you, and I'm helping turn it.

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>>43843716
>>43843752
>You can't do it can you? You can't just leave. You HAVE to involve yourself in a space where it has been made repeatedly clear that you're unininvited, unwelcome, and unwanted.

>>43843765
please believe me when i say it's not easy doing what you do. There is real validation to your struggle

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>>43843782
>severe autism
>narcisissim
>polshit antisemitism
>oscillating between self hatred and huge ego
>made a thread about hating women just to that no one is nice enough when faced with backlash
i know what you are

>>43843790
Yeah I get that.
But I feel like this is a beaten path, I don't know why. Like there's plenty who've been down this road before, and they made it, and we're going to make it too.

>>43843801
>antisemitism
The only part of that you actually care about.
You're not even trans.

>>43843807
emily why isnt ur trip on>?

>>43843765
Fair but then why do you care about being seen as a woman then
>female privilege
Really not helping you not come across like the most malebrained MRA redditor from 10 years ago

>>43843765
>I already know what I am
A man?

>>43843831
Why isn't yours snoymoder?

>>43843832
>why do you care about being seen as a woman then
Because autism.
People misgender me and they are incorrect so I correct them.
>I'm not trans
Yeah I'm getting that a lot this thread.
Nobody understand gender privilege except people who've experienced both sides of the gender divide.

>>43843837
Attractive. Something you'll never be.

>>43843803
i don't think i will. because just like the people that found themselves taking this path, or digging down this rabbit hole. you might find yourself walking backwards instead of forwards and at that point you either full on turn around and start digging a different hole or smth.

>>43843854
>Attractive. Something you'll never be.
Right. Given that you are an American tranny you are most likely a) fat, b) low or no income, c) a man with a hideous male face and body, d) a misogynist, and finally: e) autistic. The latter two you've admitted to.
What a wonderful assortment of attractive traits!
But please go on, I'm sure most real women in your surroundings will DEFINITELY view you as a woman, I can just feeeeel the female energy radiating off of you.

>>43843854
>Nobody understand gender privilege except people who've experienced both sides of the gender divide.
As I'm sure someone who does not pass would know.

>>43843859
I've climbed out of 3 seperate holes in the last three years.
That's the thing about being in a hole, eventually you get sick of being in it and you climb out.

Which I think is what I'm actually asking, is this a hole I need to climb out of? Or is this just functioning as normal?

Because I've put MASSIVE effort into overcoming my issues with women. I'm talking therapy, peer support, exposure therapy, all of it. There was a LOT of trauma there, male socialization, history of bullying, abusive mother, sexually assulted as a child by my aunt, most of the problems I've faced as an neurodivergent person interacting with neurotypical society has involved women.

So I've been working on the assumption that most of my feelings about women were trauma informed. And I really put the effort in to dealing with that trauma and finding my way back to mental health. But I feel like I've done that work and this isn't misogyny, and it isn't gynophobia, I just don't really like women.

>>43843874
didn't read.

>>43843881
>I'm not trans
You keep telling me, I keep telling you I heard you, you keep telling me anyway.
And you don't know if I pass, the most recent picture you have of me was 3 months on HRT like two years ago.

>>43843885
>most of the problems I've faced as an neurodivergent person interacting with neurotypical society has involved women
When will you autistic males catch the hint that women don't want you around? You rightfully set off every warning siren there is in normal people, women especially.
>And you don't know if I pass
I can say with certainty that you do not.

>>43843899
>You didn't reply to my post so I'll interupt your conversation with someone else
The level to which you are attention starved would make me sad if I didn't understand the reasons for it.

let this thread be a lesson in what not to do if you want to be seen as a woman.
10 years ago the labrys flagposter wouldnt have even been transphobic because people like OP didnt exist yet. now they flood everything, speak over everyone, and claim to represent all of us.
>muh acceptance
gatekeeping is healthy

>>43843920
>the labrys flagposter wouldnt have even been transphobic
Xe is a larping faggot

>>43843889
I haven't really been saying you're not trans, but yeah it feels a bit doubtful.
I didn't go by any pictures, just your saying:
>People misgender me and they are incorrect so I correct them.
I don't see how I would see your photos. But if you passed I feel like you would have responded just by saying you do pass and not with this evasiveness.
All I'm really saying now is that you, as someone who doesn't pass, can't really say that you know women are privileged above men and say it's something that all people who've been on both sides of the gender divide would know, when you yourself are not one of those people. I would disagree that it's even true.

>>43843920
>Optics
OMG can you just fuck off?
Nobody chooses to be trans.
And ten years ago they were still locking transexuals up in psych wards for GID.

YOU'RE NOT FUCKING ONE OF US
YOU DON'T SOUND LIKE ONE OF US
YOU DON'T THINK LIKE ONE OF US
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT FUCKING ONE OF US

Stop trying so hard.

>>43843928
No retard, you're telling me that YOU'RE not trans.
Fucking hell did they not teach you how greentext works in your seminar on 4chan?

>I feel like you would have responded just by saying you do pass and not with this evasiveness.
Of course you think this.
You're not trans.

>>43843885
What else can I say but This is all Valid. I'm not going to tell you how should feel about it, if it feels like a hole then it is. My advice just take a break from all of this not even contemplating, don't make any plans to change any your goals, needs, wants. and just focus on YOURSELF for a bit. so that if it comes up again you'll be better equipped to deal wit. And those three years aer something you should be proud of cause you literally fought to be where you are now desu

>>43843906
Being a woman naturally gets me plenty of attention in life, ever since being a small girl.
You are a failman who wishes he was a woman because you have somehow deluded yourself into thinking you're going to be less of an autistic loser if you go by she/her pronouns and throw on a wig on top of your balding male head.
>>43843920
I didn't become "transphobic" until a year ago, up to that point I thought you were a little weird and I avoided you, but I didn't hate you. It's the men like OP who have turned my neutrality into dislike. Fuck, most post 2018 or whatever trannies don't even have gender dysphoria.

>>43843935
Uh oh, autismo boy with the melty. I'd argue there's good cause to lock your kind up in mental asylums.

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>>43843949
>Male Brained

>>43843945
Yeah thanks.
I'm going to remind myself of that a bit more often I think.
Thanks for making this thread worthwhile. It really helped talking to you. Even if you don't get a solution, sometimes just being heard matters y'know?

>ur heccin valid dood!

>>43843966
cool glad I could help

>>43842967
I like women but they don't like me is my problem

>>43842967
I'm so glad I'm not the kind of autistic where I hate women despite wanting to be a woman

>>43842967
Kys autist

>>43843949
How much did you goon to imagining yourself as a tiny lesbian, MEFtard?

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>>43845141
Reminder

>>43845141
>>43845163
What are you talking about you schizo? The only letters that should be here is L and then G. Anything beyond that needs to get snipped off like the parasites they are.

I really do wish it was as easy as just doing coursework to understand women but it would be faulty, I imagine it as an array of marginally different experiences but it’s so hard to learn or read about given it’s unlived and artificially simulated in my head.. whatever biases i do have would essentially bleed into it and it would be incomplete and only a mere cheap copy

what do we think sperg anons

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>>43845288
>cis women should be here

>>43845288
Why not "L"? Why not "LG"? Why only "G"?
Why do you talk like an incel.is idea of a "lesbian stacy"? Why do you consistently shit on women/trannies in a deeply immature way despite claiming to be at least 30/31?
You either are a catty balding faggot, or a teenage lolcow user. Choose.

>>43845432
Female homosexuals belong in homosexual spaces, yes.
>>43845782
Take your meds and rewrite that post so it's coherent.

>>43845958
It wasn't a question, I was just telling you you're wrong and laughing at you.
This isn't a homosexual space, this is 4chan, girls aren't allowed here.

>>43845288
Damn, I went to bed, woke up, and this bitch is still seething about rapehons she went ahead and cut off bisexuals, even though she talked about how easy they were. 8 hours ago btw.

Cant even stick to your own guns when you're horny lol
You really are TERFs strongest warrior. Oops. Youre not a feminist. You're the Log Cabin's strongest warrior.

>>43843014
ngl, she cooked with this one
Anyway, loner women are still women.

>>43843670
>crew of male friends in which they're the token girl
Literally my dysphoric effeminate ass growing up. A lot of them were also lonely loners and I made a good fake gf for them 1v1 even tho they were all straight dude bros. If one of them made a move I probably would have.

>after dealing with terf invaders all day
I'm sure if you had to deal with Republican campaign organizers all day you'd realize you hate men too. It's okay to get burnout from a particular kind of interaction without having it mean anything final.

>Are there gay misogynists?
Yeah actually, one of my gay friends had a misogynistic phase in high school and had a lot to say about gay men who don't like women.
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>>43843091
>>43843223
>anime
>anime girls
it's always so weird to me when manosphere and terf types bring up anime as this feminizing influence / social contagion on males, it always sounds like they just took bait way too seriously. Do they not think women like anime too?

>>43846365
>Do they not think women like anime too
Autistic women maybe, and they are a very, very small subset of the population.

>>43846182
>she went ahead and cut off bisexuals, even though she talked about how easy they were
Those two things are both true at the same time. Bisexuals are easy AND they should get shoo'd away.
>You're the Log Cabin's strongest warrior
I'm Scandinavian, we don't have any republicans here.

>>43846556
If you really think bisexuals are sluts any more or less than heteros you need to step out of your bubble. All you're doing is punching down on another marginalized group with notions that primarily stemmed from homophobia

>>43846676
>All you're doing is punching down on another marginalized group
Bro, 25% of gen z women identify as bisexual. Marginalized, they are not.

>>43846742
Homophobic and you hate women. You'll fit in well here

>>43843942
>No retard, you're telling me that YOU'RE not trans
LOL. I think I'm a lot more trans than you here.

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Hi, ya I can relate to what op is saying. I'm starting to get a bit older now and I was a late transitioner.I can count the number of women that have truly tried to know me on one hand and I've had to deal with a lot of bullshit from women. I though that when I transitioned I would start having a better interactions with them and that's partly true with a certain subset of women; but being raised by a terf and a lot of younger women taking on terf ideology, it hasn't been easy. I know it's wrong but I still fantasize about putting all bio women into medically induced commas and only keeping them around to produce offspring. I wish we could get along and be friends but it doesn't seem possible, I'm sorry cis women I'm not your ally.

>>43846556
>both can be true at the same time
So theyre just easy women for you to catch, right?
>I'm Scandanavian
Lol cope even harder, your entire continent is 10 to 20 years behind america politically. No wonder youre not a feminist, you get to hide behind the shield of real social work being done by real queers and a government not currently trying to take your rights away. And not even just that, your countries were barely involved in the Nazi Genocides unless youre Dutch or Danish.
You really have no skin in this game and you act like you do cuz you have cis men creeping on you. Its so easy for you to hate most queer people when you live in cushy places like these.
Get over the boogeymen in your brain, girl

>>43847085
>real queers
There were no "queers" in my country's gay movement, it was all regular homosexual, assimilationist fags and dykes who patiently worked through the political system to get us our rights. It was a movement by and for gay people. Homosexuality was legalized as early as 1944. No trannies involved until like 2003 when someone somehow decided they should be allowed to mooch off us.

>>43847002
>I know it's wrong but I still fantasize about putting all bio women into medically induced commas and only keeping them around to produce offspring
As I've said, trannies are all autistic incel men. Can't wash out your stripes with estrogen.

>>43847217
yup sure is, at least I'm happy with myself now and all my enemy's are just in front of me.

>>43842967
Why not other trans women? It's a thing if you're doing it
>Are there misogynists
Yes, and there had been more in past. Gay men's misogyny was largely performative disgust around women to solidify their "gayness" around others. I'm not too certain on modern gay misogyny but it still exists
>>43843032
Hi labrys

>>43847194
>there were no "queers"
Tell that to the straggots who called us "queer!" before curb stomping us. It doesnt matter to the average breeder what you are - we're all fags and queers at the end of the day. But no, a Swede like you, mooching off the hard work of the rest of us, wouldn't know that. You know your continent got most of its legal protections for queers after the trannies at stonewall had their pride, right?
>it was a movement by and for gay people
Gods, you're oblivious. If queer history in Europe is anything like America I gurantee you trans men and women were some of the most politically active and earned the most gains for our community. And just like today, it was gays and lesbians like you that outed them from the movement for a chance to be "assimilated."
We had the normal gays. They went and marched with their signs in office uniforms, and their sign says "We're just like you!" "We look like you!" And it didnt matter when the cops busted into the gay bars because no, we're not normal, sis.
But keep kissing the boot. Maybe they'll let you stick around for a little longer than the lesbian who doesnt mind trannies.

>>43847379
>If queer history in Europe is anything like America
But it wasn't. Not in Scandinavia. Trannies did jack shit for us and Stonewall was completely irrelevant. It was a domestic movement with little do to with whatever was going on in the other side of the Atlantic. There were no raids against gay bars, because homosexuality has been legal since the 1940s. We got our rights by being respectable, not by larping as revolutionaries.