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Because they hate men and we love men

>>43845530
Jealous of our natural and pure attraction towards males, could also be past homophobia coming out.

i didnt do anything :(

>>43845530
because we're the only ones who pass and we won't fuck them lol

they think internalizing unhinged radfem discourse will make them more woman

I don't know what to do with you

>>43845590
I don't really think "appeal to nature" is a good argument. Moreover, a sexuality being "pure" is laughable.

I don't think it's homophobia because a lot of trans women are lesbians or have been with women. Whatever you call it, it would need to be more precise than that, but I understand your point.

>>43845600
I don't think passability has anything to do with it. Most trans women I've encountered IRL and online who pass are into women simply because most trans women are into women. You probably think gynephilic trans women don't pass simply because gynephilic trans women are the majority of trans women. You need to like, recognize that your view is probably biased.

>But Blanchard
Yes, that was like 30 years ago and the earlier ages of transition seem to have completely nuked 'passability by subtype.'

I have noticed that I can't even befriend most gynephilic trans women because I'm not sexually attractive to them, which is kind of depressing and isolating? Like is someone's friendship worthless because there's no sexual component there?

I think everyone of all sexualities and genders is awesome if they're a good person desu, in my experience I've witnessed the opposite though, which is kind of funny... I had these 2 straight trans women that I hung out with that were insanely phobic towards trans lesbians and bisexuals. I think it really depends on what groups you're in.

>>43846849
I'm not in any groups. I've tried to participate in groups against my better judgement because I was urged to by others, and that's when I found that trans lesbians were very hostile towards straight trans women.

>>43846861
I see... maybe it is a thing that happens in the mainstream trans spaces, I personally hang out in more private friend groups of trans people in their mid to late 20s. I notice a lot of trans lesbians with shit takes like these are teenagers maybe it's that... Not sure...

They hate men and we like men it's that simple. Similarly I hate trannies who like women because I hate women.

>>43846849
Malebrainers larping as women. Very few women are truly homophobic outside of being religious fanatics

>>43845530
No transwoman is "straight"

They all want amabs

>>43845530
Why are bi trannies hated by both straight trannies and transbians?

>>43846890
>Very few women are truly homophobic outside of being religious fanatics
Never ask a woman what she thinks of bisexual men in real life and if she'd date a man who has been with another man before

>>43846896
I don't hate them?

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>>43846894

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because gynephilic trans women often see trans women at large as a hypersexual always-available orgy. if you're not sexually available for any reason, be that not being poly or being straight, you are a traitor in their eyes

>>43846902
Who said anything about men? That's just what your mind goes to when homophobia is brought up because you've been socially brainwashed into it

the hostility is funny on both sides. like at the end of the day we’re all fucking males gayly, it rly doesn’t matter that much whether the male yr fucking is wearing a dress it’s the same in gods eyes. not a one way street though.

t. 5’3 passoid

i'm not?

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>>43845530
I would argue it's the opposite way around, I've never had any negative feelings towards straight trans people yet i have seen myriad posts of 'transbian' discrimination.

>>43846929
Homophobia includes bigotry towards men who are attracted to other men, but isn't limited to it.

>>43846890
Honestly one of them was indeed a religious fanatic and the other one was just an srs stealthoid who put down anyone who wasn't as beautiful as her + she said every trans lesbian is an ugly rapist

Both were extremely retarded because they both had a fling with another trans woman and proceeded to misgender them to cope with having fucked a woman.

>>43846947
Good job little npc

>>43846949
>Both were extremely retarded because they both had a fling with another trans woman and proceeded to misgender them to cope with having fucked a woman.
I guess that makes sense. If the transbian you are attracted to is actually a man then you are still straight

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I feel bad for straight trannies because they miss out on erotic tranny sex and feel bad for transbians for missing out on erotic man sex

>>43846949
Which is honestly one of the least passing things someone could do. I'm not about to harsh on a sisters cope but sometimes all you can do is watch them like reality tv and enjoy the tea

gynephilic trans women are molesting me

>>43845530
Straight trans women act like catty gay bottoms and call a everyone else agp which invalidates their transition as a kink. An obvious projection because they are actually just gay bottoms who dont want to get old

What they really hate is we look better than them and at the same time we don't have to transition. Transition is a choice for us. We can either be gay boys, or women

>>43847033
Actually I'm GayGP (i.e., not actually gay) and self-aware of that, I don't call people AGP if they're not lol. AGP also doesn't "invalidate transition as a kink," please read Blanchard instead of listening to Contrapoints and thinking you know about the subject. Straight trans women have less dysphoria and are less likely to get SRS

>>43846943
it's important to distinguish between a lesbian trans woman and a transbian. a gay trans woman is ok, a transbian is an autistic man with AGP who's likely to sexually assault you if you're a straight, passing trans woman.

>>43847046
Straight trans women don't look better or worse than AGPs in the current year, maybe in 1990, but with lowered age of transition and increased access to hormones, that's definitely no longer true.

>>43846902
idk I'm just saying stuff
I find these threads tiresome, there's always at least one a day

>>43847047
Yes because we don't have the AGP part which makes you have to transition. We can as easily be gay boys as we can be trans women; most of us prefer to be gay boys

>>43847059
In and of itself it wouldn't be true but I'll tell you why it's true. Every AGP I have seen on this board says they have to transition or they're going to kill themselves. I've never met one person like myself would be hsts who couldn't be gay as well as a trans woman it's almost like a variation of the same thing for us. You truly don't understand cuz you are truly different not saying your less transgender but you are different

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>>43847073
I transitioned and couldn't be gay because I'm an ethnic minority that gay guys don't like, I'd have been alone indefinitely if I didn't transition.

>every single thread on this board about transbians by other trans women is "wah wah transbians are evil sex pest AGP freaks with a sissy fetish who want to rape women with their rapestick"
>bloo bloo why do transbians hate me??

>>43847047
>Read blanchard
Give me one reason these antiquated theories are worth my time? Have they enriched your life in any way?

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>>43847055
Well then that just comes down to a matter of opinion on how you view a certain lesbian trans woman, no?

Jealous in at least two different ways at once:
>1) Jealous of being the superior hussie tranny rather than the inferior jeep tranny
>2) Jealous of HSTS being with men instead of being in their transbian polycules

>>43847115
Are you illiterate because that made sense within the context you took it out of; I'm just arguing that a lot of people have fundamental misconceptions of Blanchardism which stem from listening to people playing telephone out of insecurity.

>>43847122
There's nothing superior about straight trans women or inferior about AGPs. Male attention is easy to come by and confers no value, the same is not true of that of women.

>>43847100
You are just making stupid excuses

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>>43847130
Love isnt a value extraction process its about doki doki and making each other feel good

>>43847132
Not really, that was my situation. I'm sorry you have poor theory of mind.

>>43847130
Trans woman attention is even easier to come by than male attention, that's why you jeeps are all transbians kek

>>43845530
broader lgbt community is full of resentment towards (cis) straight people. agps are just too dumb to realize straight trans people are materially different from straight cis people.

>>43847159
I'm AGP and not a transbian, like I said earlier I'm GayGP.

>>43847130
>There's nothing superior about straight trans women or inferior about AGPs.
Very true indeed! people on the board, not AGP or HSTS, itself, which makes you feel that way. It's the interpretation on this board

>Male attention is easy to come by and confers no value, the same is not true of that of women.

You will never understand how insignificant women are to us we don't even care if they exist. We don't measure ourselves by them at all

>>43847183
I know you don't care! I'm just saying, because you obviously don't think of it that way!

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>>43847183
>You will never understand how insignificant women are to us we don't even care if they exist. We don't measure ourselves by them at all
Malebrained af

>>43847148
Just don't realize how stupid you sound. You can't be gay so you're going to change your body and make it into a sexless imitation of a woman.

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>>43847206
Well yeah I can get relationships and cock from "straight" and/or GAMP men this way, which is better than getting no relationships or cock from anyone.

>>43847199
I don't deny it and I don't really care about it!
I'm just trying to point out that we are not forced to transition

Most of us don't transition because we like men and we like the gay community, you obviously don't

>>43847227
So you're telling me your body previously, was so ugly and little and hideously weak that you couldn't be a man?

>>43847240
About half my friends are male and half are female. I don't judge people by what gender they are before I know who they are as a person. I love my gay friends and my lesbian friends and my bi friends and my straight friends because i'm not a cultist

>>43847262
I think you're trying to make me say stuff that's different from what I said, where I clearly outlined it earlier, just so you can lord over me.

If op is wondering this thread is a perfect example of why we dont like you.
>Condescending fake intellectualism
>Kinda bitchy
>Acts like the victim while insulting people

>>43847291
I am only trying to say one thing. Hsts do not feel compelled the transition, if they don't look really like women. Most of us would rather look like handsome gay men Now think of it this way. Since we love masculine looking bodies.
What are we really gained by transitioning? Can you answer that question?

>>43847355
Well I'm not HSTS as you're implying so I can't. I've never denied this.

>Agp, gaygp, hsts, transbian
Yall realize you unironically recreated the tumblr micro identity culture? Kek

>>43847368
Maybe you can try to understand how different it is for us to transition.
We don't see anything exciting about looking female .
We are not attracted to being feminine we don't appreciate our beauty, or appeal to our sexual nature cuz we're not attracted to women!

>>43847402
the difference between tumblr and this place is that 4chan is still looks-essentialist in terms of gender presentation

>>43847418
>We don't see anything exciting about looking female .
Neither do I?
>We are not attracted to being feminine we don't appreciate our beauty, or appeal to our sexual nature cuz we're not attracted to women!
Neither am I?

HSTS and gay men don't have a monopoly on those things.

>>43847430
Calling it a monopoly as it's a positive thing? Why do we transition?
Is it strictly because, beating down by society, convinced that we don't make it as men. We have to be women to be people?
I think this way, but,
I also think I'm very stupid and backwards.
There's a reason why there's hardly any hsts in the West!
People in Western Society who are gay abd transition are usually stupid minority groups of blacks and Latinos

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How could you like girls when boys can do this to you

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>>43847547
thats not a boy thats a gacha character, the elusive 3rd gender

>>43847529
>Calling it a monopoly as it's a positive thing? Why do we transition?
I didn't, again you're jumping to conclusions for the sake of your argument.
>People in Western Society who are gay abd transition are usually stupid minority groups of blacks and Latinos
I literally just told you that was the case and you ignored me.

>>43847580
Talk about being ignored I think you just can't see what I'm saying because you're so blinded by your own emotional feeling about transitioning.
I said,
>Most of us would rather look like handsome gay men Now think of it this.
>What are we really gained by transitioning? Can you answer that question?

You see you ignore to answer my questions, even though I laid them out as questions

>>43847607
I can see what you're saying, you're just being myopic and a bit dishonest.

>>43847618
You might be able to show me where I'm being myopic. Don't say I'm being dishonest!
I'm putting a lot of work into this to be honest. I wish to hell I never transitioned!
I only did it out of fear, straight masculine men would hurt me

>>43847647
So is that why you're attacking and looking down upon everyone who isn't exactly like you

>>43845530
because they want to rape us

>>43847656
I've had enough of you now!
There's no way I'm looking down at anybody! I'm looking down more at myself.

At least you transitioned for a reason, thinking you've gained something, some sense of beauty in yourself
I don't like women sexually you moron!

>>43847689
>There's no way I'm looking down at anybody!
You literally said "People in Western Society who are gay abd transition are usually stupid minority groups of blacks and Latinos." Sis.
>I'm looking down more at myself.
You're looking down at yourself but also attacking others in the process, and you don't realize because you're a narcissist.

>At least you transitioned for a reason, thinking you've gained something, some sense of beauty in yourself
>I don't like women sexually you moron!
You're jousting at windmills and again ignoring me; I don't like women sexually and I don't think I've gained 'some sense of beauty in myself,' my dysphoria was also 'minor,' I just wanted to escape the hell that was being a low-value male that even gay men wouldn't touch. This way at least I'm not alone. Has nothing to do with a 'sense of beauty.'

>>43845530
my guess is that between straight trans women and gay trans women, gay trans women receive more scrutiny and have more resentment for straight women for that.

Some are undoubtedly motivated by blanchtard and resent the stigma of being "AGP" compared to "HSTS."

>>43847719
So you transitioned into looking ugly looking character of a woman, just like me? You really hate the way you look?
I hate the way I look too because I don't look like someone i.feel is sexually attracted. I like men sexually!
I hate women's bodies, they look horrible to me. You did it for the same reason, as me because you were a little fag in the Barrio and you were constantly getting beat up by the tough guys in school
They made you transition because you didn't deserve to have a penis and testicles any more than I did!
We're both ugly little shits who really don't deserve life. We are second rate people who deserve our fate.

>>43847747
Most of us hate straight women. We hate them because they got everything that we needed while we got nothing!

>>43847810
>So you transitioned into looking ugly looking character of a woman, just like me? You really hate the way you look?
No I think I'm cute now. Do I think I'm "objectively beautiful," though? No.
I like the way I look. It seems like you're projecting your resentment.
> We're both ugly little shits who really don't deserve life. We are second rate people who deserve our fate.
I don't think I'm ugly but I do think I would be better off dead/not born. I don't think you should talk about yourself that way though.

>>43847647
this poster is the perfect example of hsts faketranny
faketrooned due to internalized homophobia a la blaire white
agp and hsts are the two types of faketroons, take notes everyone!!

>>43847839
I wish I was fake tranny. I would like to take a lawsuit against any person who gives female hormones to adults who have any kind of disability or any record of any psychiatric disability.

>>43847839
>faketrooned due to internalized homophobia a la blaire white
Have you actually read Blanchard because like this is a common thing, has nothing to do with being fake, it's just more common in cultures where homophobia is more rampant.

>>43845530
because transbians are men deep down and they police each other by enforcing masculine standards on themselves

straight trans women have no desire to confirm to those standards so the fact that they have no power over us and that we don't fit into their animalistic mindset of alpha penises, beta penises and breeding stock scares them into thinking there's a life outside of chasing pussy

>>43847865
yeah it does make you fake sorry hon. blanchard only categorized the two types of faketrannies