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Does something like this exist in Western literature? An amoral main character with no sympathetic qualities, yet whom you're still supposed to root for?
All the examples I can think of a "villain protagonist" either are actually an anti-hero, or you're waiting for his downfall.
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you're describing one i read a few months ago... Beyond Redemption. it was alright
it's a common enough trope. you'd probably know this if you actually read.
crazy how a MTL'd webseries flipped the world of literature on its head for you though. i wish i were that fucking stupid
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This, right down to the cultivation arc and abrupt and disappointing ending.
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Western retards are too stupid to separate works of fiction from their social mores. The bad guy is bad and is not to be rooted for under any circumstances. If you root for the bad guy, you are most probably confused and lacking the media literacy necessary to understand that he is meant to be bad. Otherwise, you must be a bad guy yourself.
Unless you give the character a sad backstory. Then he dindu nuffin.
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>>25176367
>Does something like this exist in Western literature?
Western... Wuxia? Yeah. Cradle series.
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The Eyes of the Overworld by Jack Vance. Quite possibly the funniest book I've ever read and I intend to reread it this year. You don't need to read the previous book to get it, the real appeal is Cugel and the situations he gets into, not the setting.
The Iron Dream by Norman Spinrad also probably counts. The main character is a genocidal maniac but he's worshipped as a hero within the story. It's a very underrated book that was obviously the inspiration behind the Starship Troopers movie adaption but nobody talks about it.
I think Michael Moorcock had some explicit villain protagonists in his books but I haven't read enough by him to say. Elric is pretty unlikable but he does save the universe from time to time.
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To be honest, reading any translated Chinese text without at least cursory knowledge of random cultural artifacts is difficult. Every other sentence is an idiom or a reference to an obscure (in the west) piece of classical poetry or literature. Every saying, or even word, has multiple readings which are often intentionally baked in. Most languages have these features, but few use them so often.
This is made worse by people who see that RI is popular and read it without knowing anything about Xianxia in general.
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>reading any translated Chinese text without at least cursory knowledge of random cultural artifacts is difficult. Every other sentence is an idiom or a reference to an obscure (in the west) piece of classical poetry or literature. Every saying, or even word, has multiple readings which are often intentionally baked in.
Maybe classical Chinese texts are like that, but most modern writing isn't that deep.
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AHAHAHA
Fuck you Reverend insanity fags, it’ll
Never be finished, you will never get your ending. All those thousands of chapters for nothing!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decadent_movement
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>>Does something like this exist in Western literature? An amoral main character with no sympathetic qualities, yet whom you're still supposed to root for?
>Pretty much every decadent novel.
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>>25196748
Why do you randomly assume I'm talking about a post from a day ago?
This guy >>25196734
asked if you think RI is decadent, and got that wikipedia link as response.
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>>25176389
>He's breaking containment
At least stay out here, we don't want you back.
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The Beggar's Opera, by John Gay (friend of Jonathan Swift), and its remake the Threepenny Opera, by Brecht. Part of the humor in each work is that the audience is expected, due to convention, to root for the protagonist, Captain Macheath, or Mac the Knife, and want him to have a happy ending, even though he has zero redeeming qualities but we keep getting told how much we should love him
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>>25176382
If you have to recommend genre slop, at least reach for Cugel here. Although he is a bit of a mix since we root for him despite his being hedonist with no conscience who sells a woman into sex slavery for directions, we also derive considerable Schadenfreude from his misery, and his defeat at the end of the first book is as satisfying as his victory at the end of the second
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>>25209207
He may not be into her for romantic purposes but they do dual cultivate together (because it gives him benefits TM), and it leaves bai ning bing trembling, screaming, and moaning in bed.
The author definitely has a fetish for this sort of thing, there's way too many characters who get sex changed. Then there's the gay orgy arc and when the (male) leader of the inkmen becomes pregnant
For those of you unfamiliar with reverend insanity inkmen are a variant species of humans, it's not explicitly mentioned but they are basically described as being black people lmao
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