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Ginger Snaps edition.
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What's your favorite multi-author anthology?
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POST CURRENTLY READING
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Official thread chart.
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Make sure to include the following in the next OP:
Notable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Richard Laymon, Brian Lumley, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many more
Discuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?
General archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=hfg
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Based. I managed to cop a like-new (used) copy off the 'zon for only about $20 CAD. This was not that long after putting it in my wishlist. Most copies were going for hundreds of dollars so when I saw that some apparently hapless third party seller had evidently lowballed themselves I snatched it up immediately.
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Now, as we were discussing in the messed up general thread.
Negative Space by B. R. Yeager is one of the best horror novels of the 2020's.
It is amazing how the millennial author, born in 1984, is able to capture the generational experience of a zoomer in high school in 2018 so perfectly and make it into a great story.
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B. R. Yeager is releasing a new book next year.
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I kind of miss being able to be scared by fiction. I discovered Lovecraft totally by accident when I was 14-15 (picrel collection). The first few stories were The Rats in the Walls, The Outsider, and The Portrait in the House and I found them to be absolutely hair-raising.
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I haven't read the whole thing but it has some really good stories by A-List authors in it. I was disappointed to discover the Arthur C Clarke story was quite a dud, though.
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>Toad Psalm
Will Tsathoggua make an appearance?
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Hey everyone, I just discovered the guy behind HorrorBabble just released Clark Ashton Smith's Hyperborea Cycle on audio:
>https://youtu.be/HcvNvLhriDI
>https://fantasybabble.bandcamp.com/album/the-hyperborean-cycle
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No it wasn't that one. It was called A Walk in the Dark.
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Have a question for the thread. How are Robert E. Howard's horror stories? Are they any good?
Was thinking of picking up a collection of his.
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Was also wondering what collection I should get. Thought about pic related but most of the stories are also in the collection from my previous post.
The only stories exclusive to pic related is called "The Valley of the Worm" from his James Allison cycle. Is that one of his best stories or do I not need it? Other then that there's two poems only in pic related called "Arkham" and "Silence Falls on Mecca's Walls"; I'm not much of a poetry reader so I don't think I should go looking for those either.
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There's also this collection
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You know what actually, I've never read The Nine Billion Names of God before, or The Sentinel either come to think of it. I just ordered a cheap collection (picrel). It comes on Saturday. I might just listen to it on audio first though because it's on YouTube. I wasn't aware it was horror-adjacent though until you brought it up.
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I'd just go with the Horror Stories of Robert E. Howard. Has all his biggest horror stories from what I can see.
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Horror fiction autism is an altogether different kind of beast.
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Just finished The Nine Billion Names of God. I kinda see how it can be described as a horror story and I kinda don't. The last act defo had a sense of dread to it. But it wasn't exactly trying to be explicitly horrific if that makes any sense. There's a great recording of ACC doing a reading himself on YouTube if anyone wants to check it out. Now back to Songs/Grimscribe...
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So inexplicably my library has a copy of the first edition of The Hungry Moon by Ramsey Campbell.
I checked out but haven't read it yet. Maybe I'll start today.
Anyone here know what I should be getting into? Seems like a folk horror and Lovecraftian novel.
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Forgot pic
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I feel like most goth chicks today read dark romantasy with BDSM overtones.
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So has anyone finished Mark Z. Danielewski's mountain of a new book yet (It's 1,200 pages)? I heard he returns to his horror roots like in House of Leaves.
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"Overtones" is putting it VERY lightly lmoa.
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Eh I strongly feel he's a one-hit wonder.
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Oh, so that's who this guy was >>25178085
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>>25183081
Remember when he was supposed to write a 27-volume long work lmao.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Familiar,_Volume_1:_One_Rainy_Day_in _May
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Yeah that's Ramsey Campbell.
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Yeah he started coming out w/ those not long after I finished w/ House of Leaves (I was 21 at the time). I started in on the first one but couldn't finish it. It was just way too YA-coded, unengaging, confusing and meandering.
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What did we think of it?
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exactly. because horror movies were so vilified, banned and cut-up, the only way to get the good shit was trading, and that required a solid community and relationships with other people that were into the same niche. that culture, I think, has carried over into the modern day.
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Oh also anthologies previously read: Gods of HP Lovecraft, good.
The followup Azathoth was less good.
Eldritch Prisoners is a connected anthology and was just ok.
The Abyssal Plain was pretty good, more of a doomsday vibe as the world ends. Some edging toward splatterpunk even more so in the sequel which is worse.
Lovecraft’s Monsters was the best of the bunch so far.
All anthologies have ups and downs of course, we’re talking on average.
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>>25183207
You must be a zoomer. The books on ABB are largely FROM audible you dumb little shit. There’s this thing called a desktop that has programs that can do things with audio files, such as stripping their DRM. A desktop is a computer. It’s like your phone but it can actually do things.
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What are some good alien horror books and why are they so rare? I don't want full science fiction maybe more along the lines of they are there but staying in the background without coming into full view but the characters realise something isn't right due to their presence
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Steve Perry/S.D. Perry write a lot of Alien extended-universe stuff (and a lot of other franchises). They're pretty good, very established. I've had a couple books from them since I was a kid. Dead Space: Martyr is also really good.
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>>25183329
Can someone please tell David Tibet to republish The Moons At Your Door?
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>How are Robert E. Howard's horror stories? Are they any good?
They're great. You have the stories that draw strong influence from the writers he liked (Lovecraft, Machen, Doyle and Kipling) and you have the more Howardian horror stories that have either have a lot more action and adventure or draw from the tales of his native Texas and the slave folklore of the plantation south.
get the del ray horror stories because it has more stories, howard's poetry and some good artwork to go along with it
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>>25183271
Does desperately pivoting from your original points normally work for you? I thought the problem was that it was DRM protected? Or that I "didn't actually own it". Now it's that it costs money, any money whatsoever.
Maybe your problem is that you're a broke little pissant who doesn't understand technology?
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I practised my Spanish with this collection:
https://tercerafundacion.net/biblioteca/ver/ficha/1440
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Dark Forces and 999 are great.
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I broke my Lovecraft cherry around 12 with the collection Black Seas of Infinity (from a book club). I recently ordered it again for nostalgic purposes even though I probably own most of the stories in other books.
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That's an excellent collection.
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Write what you know and make it creepy
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I don't care what any snob on /lit/ thinks that book is a great adventure.
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Their collabs with Ligotti are awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sryfql1tSvk
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What horror stories are there that don't actually suck? I feel like short stories from creepypasta end up being spookier than like 95% of books in the horror genre.
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How is it?
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Why does no one talks about this one?
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This shit sucked so hard by the end. Complete waste of a good premise. Can't believe I got duped into reading this and wasting my whole day.
Had to jam in the Israel allegory too.
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Time for crab
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I've actually been enjoying Joe Hill a lot lately. Read King Sorrow, NOS482, Heart Shaped Box, and a couple of his short story collections over the course of the last year. He's aight for a nepo baby.
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Revival is definitely Lovecraftian. Unironically one of the best endings for a King book, despite some parts of the story being slow to get there.
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Fellow readers, how does one promote a book these days? I've already created an audiobook version
Note: This is an earlier cover
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No, I believe it was just the world's Jews and the Palestinians. This causes a civil war between the Israeli government and the Orthodox Jewish community radicals.
After the war, the two-state solution is achieved.
I'm pretty sure Max Brooks is a liberal Zionist.
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>A world caught in an endless war...A world where Western civilization is but a distant memory...a world on the brink of...GLOBAL ANARCHY
>TL;DR If the current world we live in could be described as SATAN then what follows is SATAN 2.0.
The current cover is AI-slop (albeit loosely based on the finale) and I wish I knew what scene to use for my cover...I've sent the audio version to a few friends but it's an EPIC (almost 9 hours in Romanian, a bit over 8 in English) so it'll take a while until they can give me any pointers (They have jobs and even families, unlike me). It's on Youtube (Channel: BE3R), recently posted...Global Anarchy: Audiobook seems to work as a search term
I've had SOME positive feedback but until more people give it a listen I myself don't even know how to promote it...Or what to do to eventually make a game out of it (Can't code to save my life, wanted to make a Deus Ex-like, but don't have a team and I do not want to create AI slop)
TL;DR Gib ffedback plz
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Why does he mog pretty much every other weird fiction writer? He makes everyone else look like inarticulate cavemen / Stephen King. No one matches his prose in terms of sheer elegance and subtlety.
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Pic related
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This is all I got for you then.
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?272516
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While reading Songs/Grimscribe I sometimes I get this weird feeling that's hard to explain. It recalls my deep childhood when autumn and Halloween meant something highly inexplicable, atmospheric and...orange, if that makes any sense. Very cartoonish, witchy and timeless, and reeking of the seventeenth century.
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Hey guys. I recently started playing a vidya called fear and hunger and it made me think about horror fantasy. Could someone recommend something of the sort? Google searching has only shown me a series called “the prince of nothing” and a book called “the daughter’s war”.
I really like an uncomfortable aesthetic/feel in media and would love some suggestions. For reference I liked asoiaf and some Stephen king when I was an teen and more recently enjoyed roadside picnic and solaris. Not that those are horror but just as a reference. Please no warhammer trash. Any other suggestions will be much appreciated.
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Thanks guys. I’ll be writing these all down and looking into them
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Where are the Laymon fans?
Read Island, Come Out Tonight, One Rainy Night, Beware, Endless Night and In the Dark so far. All ranged from decent (Come Out Tonight) to good, sleazy fun (Beware and Endless Night) to fucking great (In the Dark)
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Endless Night looks amazing, just nonstop fast paced horrific violence and tension. I want to read A Night In The Lonesome October. Out of all of his books the one that appeals to me the most though is One Rainy Night
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One Rainy Night is action packed but in my opinion the characters are especially weak for Raymon -- and the novel lacks a really strong, memorable villain (Beware and Endless Night have memorable villains to say the least, they're incredibly twisted and brutal)
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I think there's a large normie audience that enjoys the unique concept (a native American vampire novel with some real historical connections) but the content of the book itself is pretty underwhelming.
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Can't say. Buffalo Hunter Hunter was the first and so far only story of GSJ's that I've read. But if you're the guy who's read 3/4 of the story and not liking it, you're almost certainly not going to like the ending.
The best part of the story is probably about 2/3 of the way in whereGood Stab takes turns Catman into a fishand the worst part is definitelythe ending where Etsy becomes the narrator again, holy shit she is the most obnoxious character in the book and it's not even close. And her ending segment is significantly longer than her into segment.
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Finally started reading The Hungry Moon by Ramsey Campbell. Read the first quarter of the book.
Reminds of a Stephen King novel. Set in a small town with a lot of close-minded evangelicals but with a hidden secret.
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The first two are alright. A bit too excessive on the exposition and cold war espionage stuff, but when they do focus on the vampires, it's some good shit. Planning to read the third later this month, hope the vampire stuff gets more focus from now on.
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the Monk is such a good novel. I read it for the first time last year and I think it will stick with me for life. strongly suggest it to anyone even remotely interested in gothic horror & christian theology. what a phenomenal book.
>tfw no demon bitch larping as a boy to orchestrate scenarios of betrayal in a monastery
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What's the best horror book or short story that takes place on Halloween?
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>brb while I go monologue about my infidelity in my sleeping 8 y/o daughter's bedroom
Lmao what the fuck
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How's Bentley Little? I want something in the vein of Richard Laymon in the sense that there's a place for gruesome violence/sexual perversion but not *JUST* those things: some semblance of a narrative with characters who have goals, personality (be it paper-thin, but still) etc.
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I stopped reading about halfway through, but the girl's parents using her bedroom (while she's asleep) as a confessional booth happened multiple times and apparently happens several more times later in the book.
The author rigidly sticks to the perspective of the girl throughout the story, and I guess this is his heavy-handed way of trying to build the parent's characters. It kinda comes across like cringe comedy though.
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>Ginger Snaps on /lit/
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I've been slowly chipping away at Richard Laymon's bibliography over the years. I've heard him called a more trashy Stephen King and the more I read the more I'm starting to believe since he seems to have trouble sticking the landing.
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For Laymon I've read Island, Funland, Resurrection Dreams, The Traveling Vampire Show, and Flesh.
I enjoyed Island even the ending, could have gone without a few points near the end where it was uncomfortable
Flesh was great, had a real slasher feel
Funland had good flow but wasn't a fan of how things wrapped up.
Resurrection Dreams started strong then went i n a different direction.
The Traveling Vampire Show I wasn't a fan, too many false starts for my taste.
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I recently found a Laymon book in a little free library but I'm not reading it, I'll exchange it by a better one.
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>reading
The Monk (Not really scared yet beyond a general sense of Monk being so tempted by flesh during Part I with the snake bite)
>Have Read
King in Yellow (first story was best but I also liked the church one)
Poe Collection (been a while but Tell-Tale Heart is still the goat of paranoid schizo for me.
I am Legend (I didn't consider this scary imo)
The Shining and various other King books not on chart (I think I like it best when the location is a character more than the actual beings)
Barron's short story collections (Swift to Chase was a fucking slog. Went full retard once it became more than some creepy Alaskan murder spree).
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Stumbling across this without being aware of the hype was a blessing. Decided to read it because an anon in a previous horror thread said it was okay but not great and I was looking for stories about spirits/creatures that live in the woods and are connected to some grim event or lore in the past.
So I was just expecting a novel about some guys that get lost in the woods and find an abandoned shack or something before getting haunted by a ghost or spirit. I couldn’t have been more wrong lol. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
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Can anyone recommend some good parasite horror? I've read The Troop by Nick Cutter a few years ago and I remember loving it. Also enjoyed Peeps by Scott Westerfeld but it's not really horror.
I just love reading about people studying some fantastical parasite, theorizing about it, and then seeing it actually do its thing.
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On the Beach doesn't have supernatural elements so what category is he talking about?
Post-apocalyptic fiction? Guess he's never read The Dog Stars or The Road because they're both better than The Stand. Never read On The Beach but I read about 20% of Swan Song, couldn't finish it because I didn't like any of the characters or plotlines.
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Seems this book is an either love it or hate it.
I'm just glad there's more spooky stuff being set in the Hudson Valley. That place is pretty spooky isn't used enough in fiction like the Pacific Northwest or New England.
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>Next up
Haunting of Hill House. I'm finishing a Ishiguro book, but this is next on the list. I liked the miniseries, I'm curious to see how the book compares (I know they aren't 1:1)
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MR James Collected Ghost Stories - 8/10
I Am Legend - 8/10
The Exorcist - 9/10
Ghost Story - 6/10
The Elementals - 10/10 (one of the only books that's genuinely creeped me out)
Books of Blood - 7/10
The Cipher - 10/10 (one of my favorites, finished it on my wedding day)
Exquisite Corpse - 8/10
House of Leaves - 7/10
World War Z - 8/10
The Terror - 7/10
The Fisherman - 9/10
What should I absolutely read next? I want to get back into horror, I've been reading a ton of sci-fi lately
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ChatGPT recommended it to me when I asked it for horror recs. Had never heard of it, was one of the first non Steven King horror novels I'd ever read. Absolutely loved it, found a horror thread on /lit/, never really opened them but saw The Fisherman referenced in the chart. Off to the races. I'm trying to work my way through the whole chart but I keep getting sidetracked.
Having read a lot of horror now, I wouldn't put it too high on my list of horror favorites, but I gotta give it props for getting me into the genre
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I liked The Exorcist a lot, I probably rated WWZ too high if I'm being honest. There were chunks that were interesting and compelling, but it was too long and got kind of boring. I think the format got kind of old.
I'd read The Exorcist again, I'm never going to read WWZ again.
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Good book if Alien is my favorite movie of all time?
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recc some war horror
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It was retarded and poorly written, but at least it held my interest throughout most of it.
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>"Slither", Edward Lee
Just finished. I'm compelled to call it porn disguised as a horror novel. Every single chapter has at least one sex or masturbation scene. Half the book is descriptions of "flat bellies" and "supple orbs". I understand that the whole premise is about parasites that change reproductive behavior, but most of those scenes aren't even the fun parasite ones! Which is a real damn shame, because when it gets to actually talking about parasites it's decent.
The author also loves to repeat himself in back-to-back scenes or chapters. There's a couple that don't add absolutely anything to characterization or plot, since there's a similar scene that communicates the same thing much more efficiently just after or before them.
At first I also thought that multiple POVs were kind of destroying all the mysteries, but I have to admit, I didn't see the end-of-book plot twist coming at all. That was very good.Although one alien being attracted to human women was kinda weird.
The last scene was fun.
Also, what WAS the reason for mc's erotic dream? It's in the blurb on the cover and all but there's no explanation, unless I missed something.
All in all, 5ish/10. Could easily be cut in half, but I still enjoyed the good parts.
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The version I read definitely maintained "all the SCP stuff" but simply renamed it; SCP organization = Unkown organization etc. That being said, the book had almost all of the negative traits of SCP such as comically ridiculous psuedo science, redactions, and generally amateurish writing.
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I hadn't checked this board in a while, but yes I am still around. I made that chart, and it is not 'officially' done yet. I'm still reading a lot, especially older works and non-English works, to try to make the 'best' chart possible. It will still take years, but I'm working on it and have already found some books that definitely deserve to be on the chart that aren't yet (and some that can be removed, like The Rats, which just isn't a 'good' book, Between Two Fires, which is written so poorly it really disappointed me, despite all the cool ideas the book has, and Ring, which just straight up isn't a horror novel.)
I also want to have a section with just short stories, for the authors who have written only a few influential short stories. I want to give them a section without pictures, so a lot can be added in a relatively small space. A few stories by Hoffmann, Gogol, Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Aleksey Tolstoy, Edogawa Ranpo, to name a few.
Some that I think should be added to the chart:
>Jeremias Gotthelf - The Black Spider
>Hanns Heinz Ewers - Alraune
>Gustav Meyrink - The Golem (maybe; not sure of it yet)
>Horacio Quiroga - The Decapitated Chicken and Other Stories (very likely, still need to read it but have heard so many good things about it)
>Jean Ray - Malpertuis
>Roland Topor - The Tenant
>Giorgio de Maria - The Twenty Days of Turin
>Anne Rivers Siddons - The House Next Door
>Karl Edward Wagner - In a Lonely Place
>Samanta Schweblin - Fever Dream
I am still not very well versed in contemporary horror literature, but I'm mostly focusing on older works anyway; I think the early horror and post-war sections are the most important to get right.
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