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Okay, ive been sitting on this for months and i really cant anymore. im a production assistant at Bantam Spectra, been here for years. i am not going to post any proof because i actually want to keep my fucking job.
The manuscript was delivered internally in January 2026. Not a partial. The actual full thing. GRRM apparently finished it sometime in late 2025 and the silence from his blog has been intentional, marketing told him to go dark.
We have been in full editorial and layout pipeline since February. The official announcement is embargoed until Comic-Con, but we know hes going to announce it on his blog first because he doesnt give a fuck, with the actual release window being around fall. They want those holiday sales.
The book is long, like long long, think AFFC and ADWD in one book, I wont say the word count because that alone would identify the source, but its about 1600 manuscript pages. People will not be disappointed on that front.
The marketing team has been talking about a coordinated campaign that involves HBO so theres probably content planned to drop alongside the release, ill let you guys figure that out.
Ill check this thread for a bit but i wont confirm or deny details that could identify me. Dont ask me stupid shit and yes jon is back lol
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Thanks for reminding me ADWD came out 15 fucking years ago
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>>25200054
Oh boy. I’m sure this isn’t bait like the hundreds of other OPs before you. That book is literally never coming out and you should all come to terms with it.
If true, show us your reddit thread because I refuse to believe an inside editor of George’s isn’t hyping up ledditors
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>>25200411
STOP
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>>25201354
I’ve moved on to not caring if it ever is released. I’ll re-read the series again at some point if God allows, and I’ll watch the Dunk & Egg tv show and hope that somebody someday makes a new asoiaf tv series that doesn’t go past the books and does include Strong Belwas
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>>25200054
The last season did such irreparable damage that it just doesn't matter any more. Dead franchise already in the corporate milking phase before the author even finished the books. Probably one of the most hilarious and complete failures by an author of all time. Sad.
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3/3/33 confirmed
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>>25200054
I remember when the plot of The Passenger got leaked here by some Hollywood anon and he made it sound really idiotic although he kept insisting it was actually pretty great. Then the book came out and he was indeed right about everything, except the Thalidomide Kid being a reincarnation of the Kid from Blood Meridian, which was the most bizarre thing about his recount.
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Here from reddit
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>>25204280
Its fake garbage. The "chapter" where Mel and Selyse burn Shireen has Shireen yell out "Daddy" as her last words, which is something that no other character in ASOIAF has said to refer to their father.
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>>25200054
Are you sure saying you are a "production assistant" won't identify you? I know publishers usually have multiple production assistants who work under multiple production editors and multiple production managers, but seems like that would narrow it down unless it's a slight misdirect. Also, why would Bantam, Random House, PRH, etc. care about releasing during the holiday season? I can understand if there are deals or obligations to line things up with HBO for something, but this is one of it not the biggest book release in the last decade+. What would be the point in waiting until the fall if they got the manuscript 3 months ago? I know editing, proofreading, production, printing, etc. can take about half a year all depending on circumstances, but seems odd they want it locked in for the holidays. Lastly, if George is allowed to make a post on his blog at some point, why does he have to wait until later? I would imagine George would've liked to do a blog the moment he sent it to Bantam Spectra. Seems odd he will be allowed to announce it ahead of the planned Comic-Con reveal, but can't when he has already submitted it to the publisher.
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>chooses an imageboard that receives a traffic of 30 teenagers per week to share your leak
>Shares your identity by revealing your position in the company (surely noone is gonna look for your name and find you buddy!)
>"I want to keep my fucking job!"
>>implying once they recognise you,you won't have a job to begin with internet tranny!!
>"I'm not going to post any proof"
Nice trollpost faggot. kthxbye.
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>>25205053
>Here from reddit
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>>25205131
The biggest red flag in that thread is that OP said that there are 96 chapters but then only summarizes 90 including a prologue and epilogue
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>>25200054
>get called gay retard on 4chan
>get 4000 upboats and 1000 comments on rebbit
Well played OP, I hope your pajeet manager gives you something special for all the engagement you farmed.
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>>25200411
>There was a thread here a few months back (fits your timeline) where someone posted a chapter by chapter break down of twow
That nigger said there would be an official announcement within a week. Stop falling for LARPs.
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I work on a publisher here on Brazil, I thoguht about sharing that many times but I was and still am afraid of getting sued and fired but since nobody seems to believe it anyway:
anon is right about most of it, idk about comic-con tho I heard it is supposed to be announced around may 26-30 on his blog and coming out on august 1
anyway I don't really care that much about this book and I'm suprised it didn't leak before as this has been the main talk in our wpp work group since we got the manuscript in december
I'm mainly a jon fanboy and only paid real attention to his chapters (and danys) but here's a quick summary without giving too much away
>there's still dany/daario sex scenes and it's still fucking disgusting but at least she moves on in the end and break up with him
>tyrion falls in love with dany
>jon and val fucks but jon don't feel any pleasure from it, he can still cum and get hard but it seems he can no longer love
>his very first chapter has him in ghost's body dreaming of the moon becoming a woman with silver hair and snow skin and making love with him, he finally feels pleasure but her insides burns him
>jon kills ramsay in a very, very gruesome way hanging him using its own entrails, that shocks even the freefolk
>I think the jon/dany romance will happen but not in the way many people expect, the red priest tells dany she will know real love but won''t be loved back, I think she will fall for jon but he won't love her back
anyway you don't need to believe in any of that, you can take it as i'm just trolling, it's probably better this way for both of us
just be pacient and wait to see if we're lying anyway
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>>25205746
Alright Sopa Macaco tell us this, does it actually end the main narrative as was the plan? That is, Dany has had all her battles, the Others are beaten? It’s not another cliffhanger?
Because Dream isn’t supposed to be more than a coda crying about ruling being hard.
Personally I don’t believe GURMnigger could fit all that into one book.
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GRRM just flew over my house!
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>>25200054
His most recent interview (with the Hollywood Reporter) makes it sound like he hasn't written anything for fucking YEARS. No TWoW, no Blood and Fire, no Dunk and Egg. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Fuck this fat fuck and I wish we could see his face when his publishers use ghostwriters to finish all this after his untimely death (for being a fat fuck).
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>>25205746
I don't know how you could read all of the books up to Winds and then have the mindset of "durr I only really care about Jon and Dany." That is just such a blatant shitty excuse to not go into any more detail beyond the stuff you thought to make up that you're obviously lying.
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This is so fucking retarded. If GRRM was anywhere close to finishing, he’d be taking victory laps on his blog all day long. (Like he was when Dance was being wrapped up).
In fact, even when he gets on a roll and writes like 20 pages in the space of a year, he’s always hyper and gushing about his love of the universe on his blog.
He definitely wouldn’t be keeping it under wraps and neither would his publisher. The hype would start on day 1. This is the most retarded bait I’ve ever read, and grats on reddit >>25205519 for lapping it up.
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>>25200054
I am holding the Winds of Winter right now. AMA
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>>25205873
>sopa macaco
lol
no, most plotlines are still left in cliffhanger by the end, dany decides she'll go to westeros to meet aegon but she doesn't trusts he's the real aegon targaryen at all but the red priest tells her she has already meet a real dragon (i think it's tyrion) and she will soon meet another one
bran tells jon he must find the woman with three dragon heads in order to defeat the others and stop the winter
I think most people will deslike it for being too "close" to the show ending, I personally hated the mad queen ending but based on daenerys convo with the red priest that sounds like it will happen
also mel telling jon his hands will be dirty with the blood of the person he loves the most (he think it's arya but I think it's dany) idk it seems like it won't go too different from the show, but hope i'm wrong
desu i think a lot of people will be left down with edgy jon but he's cool
something i was really anxious to find out wwas whether he would have white hair but his appearence is almost the same but he has a red eye now he gets when ghost dies
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actually I did only watch the show and read adwd
it's not my job to read all of it, i really only wanted to see what happens to jon and dany
wish i was lying so i wouldn't have to read dany and daario having sex again
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>>25206194
Who resurrects Jon? Does Jon meet any of his siblings? Does Jon find out the truth about his parentage in this book? I’m guessing it ends with him becoming King in the North. Is Val just a lover, a one time thing or does he marry her too?
Does Daenerys take over any of the other places in Essos?
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>>25206219
One word: Yi Ti.
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>>25206214
melisandre but it was an accident as she meant to burn the girl in order to save stannis
he meets only rickon and bran in the last chapter
jon becomes king in his penultimate chapter but he feels empty he think he should be happy but all he feels is angry
val reaction when she sees him alive is cute, they do have sex but jon feels nothing fuck, it's not that he can't have sex he still gets hard and cums but he no longer feels the pleasure of it instead all he feels is hate, sorry i probably made it a bit confusing but you will understand once you read it
they don't marry but in the last chapter still kiss him so they're still together ? but i think that his wolf dream of having sex with a silver haired woman that finally gives him sexual pleasure again but burns his penis is meant to be daenerys
yes she does
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>>25205746
Whats the immediate aftermath to Jon’s mutiny? I’ve always been curious since it all ends in such a chaotic way compared to the retarded way they handled it in the show. And how do they retrieve Jon’s body from all that chaos to put him wherever he gets resurrected
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>>25205746
I don’t get it? Why risk your jobs and livelihoods for 4chan? Till you can answer that I can’t believe this
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>>25207734
Marwyn not appearing already proves it's bullshit, unless George decides to kill him off screen in an off-hand comment. He also completely forgot to address Hotah, Obara, and Ser Balon going to find Darkstar.
Also, the preview chapter confirms that Mace Tyrell's host is heading south to oppose Aegon's forces, so him being murdered by Robert Strong is impossible.
Shame though, of all of the attempts I've seen of winds, it's actually not bad.
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>not posting an announcement before Comic-Con (July), after HotD will have already have aired (June)
>as if HBO would ever agree to that (not benefitting from the Winds hype for their show that is faring poorly)
Are you all fucking retarded?
>>25207793
Why he would keep that under wraps? That’s all the book fanbase wants.
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>>25207877
I honestly don't understand the focus on Comic-Con. There's hundreds of them and it's not like everyone that goes to Comic-Con is interested (or can read lol) the books, most just cared about the show and will maybe watch a video on YouTube about the plot
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>TWOW is now the QAnon of /lit/
kek, somehow it's appropriate
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>>25204280
>Weakwing
literally turned 360° and walked out of that thread
>>25205354
Brown Ben Plumm and the Tattered Prince are executed but still alive 50 chapters later
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newfag detected
>>25200054
Are the preview chapters in the book as they are on the internet? That Theon chapter is one of my favourite
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>>25206249
How exactly does Ghost die?
What happens with Davos and his adventures on Skagos to reclaim Rickon?
Anything interesting going on with Victarion?
What new pieces of lore do we get from Bran's dreams about The Others?
Sansa and the Vale What happens there?
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>>25208545
If you are that interested, why don't you read the OG post?
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24987208
But Ghost basically runs into a pyre, Davos adventures are pretty shore, Victarion fails like a retard and dies, not a lot from Bran and that last question is too long to explain
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Not like this sisters
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>>25208599
holy shit, why would they actually mind debunking a random rumor everyone would forget in one or two week ? I was sure that was just larp but now I think we might be into something here with that guy and the brazillian dude wtf
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why do you think OP's leak might be related to that one other leak ? OP if you're still here can you confirm if that summary is real ?
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>>25208599
>https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24987208
Hmm... that IS weird. I don't think I've ever seen the publsiher actively dissuade from a rumor, let alone an anonymous 4chin post. However, I haven't really found a direct statement from the publisher so this could be further false hype.
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>>25208682
>>https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24987208
but even if we assume THIS leak is real, how can we be sure the summary one is real too ? arent they are kinda different from each other
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idk maybe it's just because the reddit thread about our thread exploded
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>>25208707
It most likely is. Maybe I'm underestimating how much traction it got. It could be the publishing house received a lot of questions and stuff.
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yeah I know. I'm inclined to believe this is just regular ol copium. I'm just saying it is weird the publishing house directly addressed it
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>>25208674
Yes, because 99.9% of the books of today are AI generated slop not worth to be published and the only thing they have to care about is TWOW, which will never be released.
The offices are just bathrooms they are contractually obliged to stay in for 8 hours.
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i don’t think his publisher has ever DEBOONKED before
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>>25207688
You'd think no one would, but similar trade secrets have been leaked on 4chan many times before. That's why people even do hoaxes here.
So, there's no way to know yet if this one is real, but the argument "no would would ever..." doesn't disprove it.
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>his very first chapter has him in ghost's body dreaming of the moon becoming a woman with silver hair and snow skin and making love with him, he finally feels pleasure but her insides burns him
This part just feels real
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>>25205746
I work at a publisher as well but I am from Greece. I wouldnt have spilled the beans but since you did it first, the horse is already out the barn door right?
We have been working on translations and book art and waiting for the go ahead for the announcement of the release date. Let me lay the nuggets you did not.
>Edmure and Jeyne Westerling survive the epilogue, Sybell Spicer gets killed in front of her daughter as she watches her mother get ravaged by wolves led my Nymeria with sadistic relish, spooking Edmure.
>Bran, who was already in love with Meera, wargs into Summer to have sex with her, he fucks her so hard that she gets crippled as Summer gapes her asshole so wide that she gets paralyzed from the waist down just as the Bran the Broken, she is also warged by Bran at the same time to turn her into a semen demon. Bran feels sorry afterwards but fucks her crippled body again multiple times while warging Summer and makes her beg for it as he is warging her mind as well, only to eat her alive as Summer once he drained Summer's balls. Bran then tells himself, "I am truly broken now, and broke Meera for good".
>The Val and Jon sex chapter involves Ghost. Jon, just as Bran, wargs both Ghost, and Val herself. As they double penetrate Val, they gape her holes as Jon wargs her mind to the point that she literally turns into a wildling sement wight. After Ghost and Jon both gape her holes and plaster her with cum, she becomes numb and unresponsive to anything but to Jon's commands. She becomes a semen wight obeying every command and Jon commands her to get nubile wilding virgins for him. She does her bidding without question.
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>Daario/Dany sex chapter is very explicit indeed, she hates herself for fucking a blue haired buffoon that looks like a jester but Daario has multiple piercings on this member and makes her moan like a pig getting butchered, she witnesses dragon dreams as she is ravaged by Daario and sees Jon Snow and Ghost in her visions as they are fucking Val, she makes her mind to go to Westeros to find Jon and his Ghost.
>Alayne marries Harry the Heir, and Harry, who is a terrible figher on the tourney, turns up to be a gaper maker in the bed. He is very rough on the virgin Sansa, that makes her recoil and clutch at first, but he makes her give in as he strokes her holes. Littlefinger, who is watching the whole ordeal like a wannabe Varys in a secret chamber behind the walls of the bedroom, is caught by the Mad Mouse Ser Shadrich. He is forced to undress and is beaten then forced to watch Sansa squeal like a pig as he is fucked by Harry only for Harry to cum on his face before making fun of his small member, then killing him while Sansa laughs.
>Cersei feels like a goddess after using Robert Strong to eliminate most of her enemies in King's Landing. He obeys her every command to slay any target Cersei calls for him to kill. She considers sending him off to kill her enemies all over Westeros but asks him to please her before making the call. Robert Strong turn out to be the perfect lover for Cersei Lannister, always obeying, never limp and hung like a horse. She gets fucked so hard that she ends up keeping him in the Red Keep instead of sending him off to kill her enemies.
>Arya witnesses Edmund Tully fucking Jeyne Westerling after Nymeria's wolf pack kills Forley Prester and his party in the epilogue. She gets angry and wants to kill them both, but gets aroused as she watches them in her wolf dream. After she wakes up she is commanded by the House of Black and White to take out a new target, but she cannot stop thinking about his uncle Edmure making Jeyne moan. The Kindy Man looks at her as if he knows what she has seen, and in an instant changes his face and body to and turns into his uncle Edmure, he drops his robe and unravels his big thick throbbing cock that makes Arya aghast with lust, she gazes at it only for his "uncle" to take her over to the weirwood effigy in the house of Black and White and bends her over and slam it in her tiny tight little asshole. She wargs into Nymeria again as his "uncle" is gaping her asshole while watching his actual uncle fuck Jeyne Westerling through the eyes of her wolf Nymeria, both Arya and Jeyne moan and exalt in unison.
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If you fall for this nonsense you are actually a braindead ape. It's never coming out, George doesn't give a shit anymore, especially now that we now know the ending is going to be shit thanks to the godawful show.
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https://www.ign.com/articles/george-rr-martin-is-not-releasing-the-win ds-of-winter-this-fall-book-publish er-confirms
>IGN reporting on a 4chan thread that's still up
>they link to a twitter screencap of a 4chan thread instead of linking directly to the thread or the thread on the archives
INSANE
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>>25200054
Congrats anon, you got his publishers to comment on the rumor. You pushed a button in life and something actually popped out.
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The big twist in Winds will be revealed that it will be that Daenerys has been a Fire Wight all along since the end of A Game of Thrones after stepping off the funeral pyre in her last chapter of book one. It explains everything about her character when you think about it, how she is barren, her descent into madness is not only because of her Targ genes but because she doesn't really have much humanity left in her , her growing ruthlessness in how she deals with her enemies but Daenerys is a super special new type of Fire Wight that hasn't been seen before because she split some of her soul with Drogon while Viserys and Drogo went into Rhaegar and Viserion. Marwyn learns this about her once he encounters Daenerys but freaks out at realising what she is.
Daenerys has Marwyn killed by Victarion who kind of becomes her new right hand man and muscle before he dies in a stupid way by face palming him with his freaky new hand which smoulders his skull in after he calls her an abomination that shouldn't exist. She converts to the Red Religion not long after that.
Oh and Daario and Patchface are siblings somehow. That's going to be another big twist.
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>>25210466
One of Daenery's last chapters in Winds has her blowing the Dragon Horn to fully get the Dragons under her control. She manages to do this successfully without her insides burning after blowing that gains her a large following of people claiming her to be Azor Ahai
Theon is about to be executed by Stannis and his crew with Rickon and everyone else in attendance to appease the northerners but Bran shows up with Meera pushing him. He tells Stannis and his guys to release Theon because he still has work to do for him.
Theon, Bran ,and Jaime along with a small group decide to head further north via the tunnels to deal with The Heart of Always Winter
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>>25210466
I get what you're going for but DAny being a fire wight makes zero sense. Wights don't magically get healed, and Dany has no mortal wounds, her body literally did not burn enough to kill her. On top of this we also see her invulnerability to fire in other contexts, I think she has her dragon breathing fire all around her in the house of the undying. On top of this she clearly has not lost humanity nor been consumed by any one mission or emotion like lady stoneheart. She loves, she hates, she's happy and sad, she wants to go to westeros but is not consumed by it, she puts it off to settle affairs in mereen, simply because she's seen the results of sacking a city and leaving. She has all of her humanity and has not died.
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>>25210549
>https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24987208
you got this from here ?
too lazy to read all of it
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>>25210703
>https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24987208
I'm going to skim through that later. Fingers crossed for the Brightfyre Theory to turn out true.
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Finally got through it. If it is a larp the it's a dang good one. It has the skeleton of the show which sense since D&D were working off a outline from George. Killing off more of the superfluous POVs makes sense to minimize all the story threads he'd need to wrap up in Dream of Spring.
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