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Reading horror fiction? I'll show you something interesting.
The two types of horror stories are about the existential threat either violating the protagonist internally (raped) or externally (cucked).
Ligotti? Raped.
King? Cucked.
Barker? Raped.
Lovecraft? Cucked.
Despite writing about rape, Ketchum is actually cucked.

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>>25287995

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any good?

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>>25288314
Shove it up (You)r ass, old man. Maybe (You)'ll "build some character"

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>>25287995
Favorite novel or short story set during Halloween ?

>>25287995
Is Harry Kressing's The Cook worth reading?

>>25290165
Alice's Last Adventure by Ligotti and Night In The Lonesome October by Laymon

>>25287995
Whys this whole site so dead

>>25293779
school

As someone who hasn't really read much horror outside of classics, is there any modern horror with really good prose?

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Just started this. I've read quite a few of Klein's short stories before and enjoy the tone and matter of fact delivery. Curious to see how he fares in longer form.
Also in the Lovecraftian tradition you can really tell he's uneasy around blacks (or at least his characters are).

Wondering when my copy of Cold Print will arrive in the mail.
Am I the only one who feels like a lot of Ligotti's stories really blend together btw?

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Do we like Robert Cook here? I picked up Invasion and Abduction today because I want some good Ayyyy books to read and I like a conspiracy thriller every now and then.

I never finished Songs/Grimscribe. May never do so lmao

>>25294243
I last read this like 10 years ago but I've been wanting to revisit it. very little of the horror aspect sticks out in my mind and I don't recall it culminating in a very satisfying manner but the summertime atmosphere of it was great.

>>25295856
Never heard of him. Is he any good?

>>25294243
All I know is that is an expanded from his short story The Events at Poroth Farm and I've heard people call it padded.

>>25295888
TG is the only really good Ligotti collection imo

Does anyone have any science-fiction horror recommendations? Possibly short stories? Big fan of Lovecraft and Poe from the horror side of things, and love William Gibson and Philip K. Dick for SF. Also Kafka if that's a direction that can be thrown in there.

>>25296017
Starfish by Peter Watts, Brian Evenson's Dead Space novels

>>25296012
I think they all have great stories:

SoaDD: Frolic, Dr. Thoss, Greater Festival, Vastarien
GS: Harlequin, Night School, Glamour
Noc: Medusa

But TG is definitely the best collection.

Was reading The Tomb by Lovecraft last night, the very first story in his official corpus. Just realized I didn't finish it. I'll fix that soon.

>>25296663
What are your favourites from TG? (And have you read My Work Is Not Yet Done? I thought that "The Nightmare Network" is one of his absolute best stories.)

Is the story 'The Events at Poroth Farm' by Literally Who worth reading?
It comes up a lot in lovecraftian suggestions

>>25297073
It's a short story, it really doesn't take that long to read.

>>25297073
>lovecraftian
i love actual Lovecraft but fanfic is fucking AIDS

>>25297008
Our Temporary Supervisor

>>25297143
True. I'm a huge fan of Lovecraft but everything that I see described as lovecraftian I dislike.

>>25298046
Even Ramsey Campbell?

>>25297143
I'm >>25294243 and generally I agree with you but most of the shorts by Klein I've read don't read like someone imitating H.P., the noticable exception being his story "Black man with Horn".

>>25297008
Everything from the "Damaged & Diseased" section, plus Clown Puppet and Red Tower

>>25298510
>And have you read My Work Is Not Yet Done?
No, I have it but was never able to get into it.

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This book is actually really good. No idea why it took me this long to get to it. The stories are all really erie and unique.

>>25299161
I recently finished that collection, and it's indeed fantastic. How far in are you, and which ones are your favourite (so far)?

>>25299161
Reading this at the moment, haven't touched it in a little while so your post inspired me to pick up back up and I just finished a few stories. Really good – much better than Ligotti, if still rather forced feeling (like other anons have said before, Campbell is a bit of a slow read: I often find myself rereading the same sentence over and over due to his creative & rather abstract use of metaphor). I might still finish Songs/Grimscribe, since there are some rather good stories by Ligotti, and the book isn't very long; but he's a very mixed bag I feel. Like, The Last Feast of Harlequin really seemed too long for its own good; the ending was excellent but most of the story up to that felt like filler. Ligotti & Ramsey are probably both just as atmospheric as the other but Ramsey just feels so much more elegant, and oddly intuitive if that makes any sense. He'll end a story on a vague note and yet I'll know exactly what he meant. Ligotti simply lacks that subtlety. Maybe his later collections will prove to be better.

>>25299161
I actually didn't care for this one. Klein's shorts were overall of better quality, for me anyway.

>>25299215
I liked "The Voice of the Beach" "The Chimney" and “The End of a Summer’s Day” the best. I just finished the book last night.
>>25300747
100% agree about Ligotti. When he's good hes REALLY good. When he's weak... honestly he bores me to death. He has a very particular style and voice that I just don't think is my default setting.
>>25301152
Oh I'm a huge Klein fan too. Different vibe for sure. I could see why you'd prefer him.

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speaking of Klein I didn't know Dark Gods was in print again but what the fuck were they thinking with this cover

>>25301276
Petey>Children of the Kingdom (this is what I assume inspired the cover)>>power gap>Black Man with Horn>>> Nadelman's God imo

>>25301181
>When he's good hes REALLY good.
which ones?

Wondering if my copy of Cold Print will arrive in the mail this week.

I read Lovecraft's the Festival which was bad.
Then read the Hound which was much better.
What else of his shorter stories should I check out?

>>25301692
The Music of Erich Zann

>>25301695
NTA, but – I thought that one was disappointing. Maybe try In The Vault, or The Tomb.

>>25301692
The Tomb
The Cats of Ulthar
The Picture in the House
The Outsider

>>25301699
Cool Air

Do you guys like reading/collecting older editions of books? If so where the hell do you find them? Value village?? EBay?

>>25301276
I found a copy of Dark Gods in a free little library in my neighbourhood, coincidentally on Halloween.

Cold Print arrived today :]
>>25301726
The Outsider is easily Top 5 for me.
>>25301778
Value Village most often yea. eBay is massively overrated and overpriced for used anything these days.

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This has a lot of body horror and generally is a dark superhero origin (X-Men-ish) vibes. Has stuff like were-cats and teenagers becoming multi-eyed eldritch looking abominations.

Finally finished The Hungry Moon by Ramsey Campbell.

I enjoyed it very much. I found the main monster very original. It’s also the most Stephen King-like of Campbell’s novels.

Fuck man now I wanna read The Hungry Moon like that anon.
Looks like the easiest way to get it is to buy a $30 used hardcover copy on Amazon. All the paperbacks are out of stock everywhere. Might spend the extra five bucks to get the used copy that other anon^^^ purchased. Gotta finish Alone With the Horrors and Cold Print first at least. Is this what good horror literature aside from Stephen King and Dean Koontz looks like?

Wasn't trying to imply Stephen King or Dean Koontz were good horror writers, but yea there's so much more ig.

Koontz's The Taking is pretty good. Not bad at all.

>>25290165
Oh boy great question. I really like Ray Bradbury, so "The October Game" is a must read.
I'd love to hear about more halloween themed stuff, short fiction, even collections lol

>>25301856
that's a cool find, especially for those things. I loaned mine to my brother and never got it back :(

I finally decided to fork up the cash for the Lovecraft/Long correspondence and received it the other day. in the completely non-horror realm I've been reading Proust recently and it's amusing to read the first few letters in this and see Lovecraft expressing some near-identical aesthetic opinions. if I'm not mistaken Long gave him a copy of Swann's Way as a gift at one point so I'm curious to see if he mentions it later

Just finished The Rider on the White Horse, by Theodor Storm. Apparently it's a gothic novel, although it didn't really felt much like it. It was pretty good though!
Has anyone else read it? I'd love to hear your take on it.

Debating between starting The Road by McCarthy, and Russian 19th Century Gothic Tales, a great anthology of older Russian gothic works that are often overlooked. I'm going to read both soon either way!

Do you guys think Ramsey Campbell is paying some jeet from Bangladesh to shill for him or is he doing it himself?

>>25304375
Post hand.

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>>25304375
He doesn't need to. His writing is just that good.

>>25304375
hes the only author who's written more books than hes read

>>25288362
>God Tier
Frankenstein
Complete works of Edgar Allan Poe
Dracula
The Rim of Morning
House of Leaves

>Pretty Good
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
Japanese Ghost Stories of Lafcadio Hearn
The Haunting of Hill House
Something Wicked This Way Comes
Rosemary's Baby
The Shining

>Very hit or miss
Complete fiction of H. P. Lovecraft

>Disappointment
The Turn of the Screw
The Dark Eidolon

>been too long since I've read it that I have no recollection of whether or not I liked it
The Great God Pan
The Yellow Wallpaper
The King in Yellow

>Want to read:
The Monk
Collected Ghost Stories of M. R. James
The Girl Next Door
Silence of the Lambs
The Ring
Song of a Dead Dreamer
The Fisherman
North American Lake Monster
Negative Space

>currently reading
Between Two Fires

Amazing chart. I'd probably add a bit more J-Horror beyond just The Ring though.

>>25305599
Thanks! That's always nice to hear.
I've talked about the changes I currently have in mind, in a post last month; I'll copy it here:

--

I'm still reading a lot, especially older works and non-English works, to try to make the 'best' chart possible. It will still take years, but I'm working on it and have already found some books that definitely deserve to be on the chart that aren't yet (and some that can be removed, like The Rats, which just isn't a 'good' book, Between Two Fires, which is written so poorly it really disappointed me, despite all the cool ideas the book has, and Ring, which just straight up isn't a horror novel.)
I also want to have a section with just short stories, for the authors who have written only a few influential short stories. I want to give them a section without pictures, so a lot can be added in a relatively small space. A few stories by Hoffmann, Gogol, Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Aleksey Tolstoy, Edogawa Ranpo, to name a few.

Some that I think should be added to the chart:
>Jeremias Gotthelf - The Black Spider
>Hanns Heinz Ewers - Alraune
>Gustav Meyrink - The Golem (maybe; not sure of it yet)
>Horacio Quiroga - The Decapitated Chicken and Other Stories (very likely, still need to read it but have heard so many good things about it)
>Jean Ray - Malpertuis

>Roland Topor - The Tenant
>Giorgio de Maria - The Twenty Days of Turin
>Anne Rivers Siddons - The House Next Door
>Karl Edward Wagner - In a Lonely Place

>Samanta Schweblin - Fever Dream

I am still not very well versed in contemporary horror literature, but I'm mostly focusing on older works anyway; I think the early horror and post-war sections are the most important to get right.

--

I'm sadly not very well read in J-horror; Edogawa Ranpo has a few killer horror stories, and there's some older works that might be important enough to include, like Tales of Moonlight and Rain by Ueda Akinari, and Japanese Gothic Stories by Kyoka Izumi. There's one terrific Japanese novel I've read, In the Miso Soup by Ryu Murakami, but that's more a transgressive novel than horror, and it wouldn't really fit with the rest of the chart.

There's a lot of books I'm still planning on reading that can improve this chart, too many to start listing them all. It's a bit of an annoying spot I'm currently in, where changing/updating the chart would improve it, but constantly doing so would make it very confusing for people who have seen multiple iterations of the same chart.

>>25288314
Get that faggotish xitterlingo out of here

>>25305637
>The Troop
>In The Miso Soup
>J.F. Gonzalez - Survivor

>>25305934
..what about those three books?

>>25301276
for weird fiction this cover is actually quite restrained. (see Hippocampus Press)

>>25305943
I was suggesting them

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Maybe my taste sucks but I tried to add to the modern section

>>25305599
>Frankenstein
>Japanese Ghost Stories of Lafcadio Hearn
>The Haunting of Hill House
>The King in Yellow
>The Monk
>Collected Ghost Stories of M. R. James
>The Girl Next Door
>Between Two Fires
All on my TBR :/ Can't believe I've never read Frankenstein. Does anybody know whether I should read the 1818 or the "proper" version from the 1830s? I'll prob listen to it on audio tb h.

Just found out HorrorBabble has done a recording of Frankenstein 1818 :D FUCK YEA

So I'm reading Along With the Horrors right. Does he have a single story where the protag isn't just straight-up doomed from the start, as in it has a happy ending? Every single story so far has seemed like the characters were inevitably destined straight for hell, even if they hadn't done anything wrong (like a lot of horror tales do, as a didactic tale of hubris).

Reminder: Spooktober is 365 days.

>>25305599
>house of leaves and dracula in god tier
jfc really?

>>25307759
nta but which books from the chart have you read, and how would you rank them?

>>25307759
I really liked House of Leaves, but I read it when I was 21 and way, way before it was popular to shit on the book.

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I tried

>>25307010
What's the big differences between the two editions?

Shirley Jackson Award nominees have been announced.

BEST NOVEL OF 2025
>Bat Eater and Other Names for Cora Zeng by Kylie Lee Baker (Harlequin Trade Publishing / Hanover Square Press)
>How to Fake a Haunting by Christa Carmen (Thomas & Mercer)
>The Lamb by Lucy Rose (HarperCollins Publishers)
>Moonflow by Bitter Karella (Run For It [Orbit, Hachette Book Group])
>Old Soul by Susan Barker (Penguin Random House/G.P. Putnam’s Sons)
>Witchcraft for Wayward Girls by Grady Hendrix (Berkley, Penguin Random House)

BEST NOVELLA OF 2025
>The Cold House by A. G. Slatter (Titan Books)
>The Death of Mountains by Jordan Kurella (Lethe Press)
>DuMort by Michelle Tang (Ghost Orchid Press)
>The Glass Garden by Jessica Lévai (Lanternfish Press)
>Psychopomp & Circumstance by Eden Royce (Tordotcom Publishing/Tor Publishing Group)

BEST NOVELETTE OF 2025
>The Confirmed Bachelors by Stephen Volk (Black Shuck Books)
>“Emily” by Vanessa Santos (Make a Home of Me)
>Letter Slot by Owen King (Amazon Original Stories)
>“The Millay Illusion” by Sarah Pinsker (Uncanny Magazine Issue Sixty-Seven)
>“The Severity of Things” by Mo Moshaty (Clairviolence: Tales of Tarot and Torment)

BEST SHORT FICTION OF 2025
>“Bitter Skin” by Kaaron Warren (Night & Day)
>“Lapse” by Kirsty Logan (Unquiet Guests)
>“Mother’s Mother’s Daughter” by Audrey Zhou (Silk and Sinew: A Collection of Folk Horror from the Asian Diaspora)
>“Room 24” by Caroline Kepnes (The End of the World As We Know It)
>“Silver Boots” by Donna Lynch (HOWL: An Anthology of Werewolves from Women-in-Horror)

BEST SINGLE-AUTHOR COLLECTION OF 2025
>Clairviolence: Tales of Tarot and Torment by Mo Moshaty (Tenebrous Press)
>Good and Evil and Other Stories by Samanta Schweblin, translated by Megan McDowell (Alfred A. Knopf)
>Issues with Authority by Nadia Bulkin (Ghoulish Books)
>Moon Songs: The Selected Stories of Carol Emshwiller by Carol Emshwiller (Third Man Books)
>Portalmania: Stories by Debbie Urbanski (Simon & Schuster)

BEST EDITED ANTHOLOGY OF 2025
>Night & Day, edited by Ellen Datlow (Saga Press)
>Roots of My Fears, edited by Gemma Amor (Titan Books)
>Silk and Sinew: A Collection of Folk Horror from the Asian Diaspora, edited by Kristy Park Kulski (Bad Hand Books)
>Unquiet Guests, edited by Dan Coxon (Dead Ink Books)
>Were Wolf Short Stories, edited by Gillian Whitaker, Catherine Taylor & Nick Wells (Flame Tree Publishing)

https://www.shirleyjacksonawards.org/2026/05/28/nominees-announced-for-the-2025-shirley-jackson-awards/

>>25308777
That's what I was asking man xD Google tells me the 1830 version was rewritten to be less political and explicit, what that means exactly I have no idea.

>>25308781
What's with the recent thing with a lot of Asian-American women getting into horror?

>>25309315
They're worming their way into everything.

>>25308781
>>Bat Eater and Other Names for Cora Zeng by Kylie Lee Baker (Harlequin Trade Publishing / Hanover Square Press)
>Harlequin Trade Publishing
The cheesey romance smut publishing house? Seriously nigga?

>>25308781
>>Letter Slot by Owen King
>yet another Stephen King son getting into horror writing
Is this maybe something Steve encourages his kids to do? Like I know Joe Hill is a full-time horror author but like every one of Steve's kids has at least one published horror novel. Maybe Steve is just like to his kids, "You've got to try writing a book just once in your life even if you don't make it a career." He seems like he would be a cool dad.

>>25309329
>He seems like he would be a cool dad.
Shame he is a child predator.

>>25309367
Might be more common in the genre that you think.

>>25308781
the lamb is a lock to win best novel right

I thought Poppy Z Brite was a mtf tranny, now I find out it's the exact opposite.

As I read more classics witches move up on my list of scary things

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Just pulled the trigger and bought a copy of Exquisite Corpse. Why? Because I'm stupid probably lol, also I like the stories of Dahmer & Nilsson. I've read The Shrine of Jeffery Dahmer but haven't read anything on Nilsson – does anyone know of any good true crime books on the man? Preferably as lurid and explicit as possible, maybe with a bit of analysis.

>>25308781
>ALL femniggers
And somehow, this ISN'T considered "discriminatory" in ANY fashion! HOW INTERESTING!

>>25309634
Imagine feeling personally attacked because some women are nominated for a literary award

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>>25309462
Witches are sexy.

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>Yes
frankenbros...

>>25309706
Get lost, foid. Not reading the slop.

>>25310002
Such a normal thing to say

>>25310015
Don't care. You're in my wheelhouse now, bitch.

>>25310019
Wow so intimidating, a guy who feels insecure because of women getting nominated for a literary award

I don't really care buddy. Here's your (You)

Crackpot theory: Stephen King's sons have been ghostwriting his books lately as writing exercises and it would explain the drop in quality outside of him just getting older

Idea for a story: Stephen King vs his doppelganger Steven King.

>>25288362
How is frankenstein horror

>>25311232
Are you stupid?

>>25296017
>>25296611
I'd also add Blindsight to this. Two of my absolute favorites.

I just finished Blood Music by Greg Bear and that has some horror elements to it, although it's definitely more sci-fi forward. Good book though

>>25305637
Malpertuis should definitely be added, I'm surprised it isn't already on there

I got both The Dark Eidolin and The Emperor of Dreams collectons does this encompass everything Smith wrote.
What am I missing?

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>>25311906
You should have bought the collected Zothique.

>>25312002
yo bro why does that cover art have the same aesthetic as dread delusion tho who copied who

>>25312009
>dread delusion
Is that a game? Never heard of it.

>>25312019
ya it's some indie game that looks like that cover. id post a screenshot but everything's a webp now and 4chan isn't technologically advanced enough to support the most common image format on the web.

>>25312030
>support the most common image format on the web.
It is only most common because Google has forced it into everything despite not being a good format. Just another way they want to control the internet as a whole.

>>25312030
You could just take a screenshot of the webp you know.

>>25312096
yeah i feel u but i'm sick of having to convert images ever time i want to post so ive just stopped posting images which is kind of bad considering 4chan's whole raisin detray is images.

>>25312103
ya but my os might put some fingerprint watermark shit in the file and i'm too fucking paranoid for that

>>25312105
Google wants that. Same as changing web standards to where you have to use Chrome/Chromium based browsers and how Edge/Firefox/Opera/Whatever are all reskinned Chrome.

>>25312112
Try this lad
https://image.online-convert.com/convert/webp-to-png
I use this site all the time, it's definitely the best free tool for converting filetypes.

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Todays pickups, was looking for fear street books but no luck, didnt even find that many goosebumps books at two used
bookstores.

Is there anything approaching horror-noir? I was looking for plain noir recs but there's no real good thread to ask that, and I do like some horror.

>>25313198
Falling Angel by William Hjortsberg

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>>25309462
>>25309770
They are a classic staple.
>All was now once more silent and dark, and he determined to wait in this spot the dawn of day, but a few minutes had scarce elapsed, when the iron door screaming on its hinges, bellowed through the murmuring ruin. Henry nearly fainted at the sound, which, pausing for some time, again swelled upon the wind, and at last died away in shrill melancholy shrieks; again all was silent, and again the same fearful noise struck terror to his soul. Whilst his mind was thus agitated with horror and apprehension, a feeble light streaming from behind accompanied with a soft, quick and hollow tread, convinced him that something was pursuing, and struck with wildering fear, he rashed unconscious down the steps; the vault received him, and its portals swinging to their close, sounded as the sentence of death. A dun fœtid vapour filled the place, in the centre of which arose a faint and bickering flame. Fitzowen approached, and beheld a corse suspended over it by the neck, whilst the flame flashing through” the vault,” gleamed on a throng of hideous and ghastly features that came forward through the smoke. With the desperate valour of a man who sees destruction before him, he ran furiously forward ; an universal shriek burst forth, and the fire rising with tenfold brilliance, placed full in view the dreadful form of his infernal guide, dilated into horror itself; her face was pale as death, her eyes were wide open, dead and fixed, a horrible grin sate upon her features, her lips black and tumid were drawn back, disclosing a set of large blue teeth, band her hair, standing stiffly erect, was or a withered red.

Reading Naked Lunch and at times it's basically an abstract, nightmare-ridden horror novel.

Bump in the night

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Has anyone read this? Is it any good? It was published in the mid-'90s, but is it woke in the modern sense?

>>25316912
It's a great book in my opinion. Splatterpunk in the original sense, gives a great look into the queer culture in New Orleans in the 80's, as well as the AIDS crisis. It's also written beautifully and it goes pretty damn hard, definitely worth a read.

>>25288314
okay

>>25317195
>gives a great look into the queer culture in New Orleans in the 80's
This will take some suspending of my modernity-doused ego.

Boo!!! hahahaha

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Read Charles Brockden Brown, Robert Montgomery Bird, and George Lippard.

>>25315321
Want to read more of Burroughs cause I've heard he's horror adjacent.

>>25321987
P. much yea.

Guess I'm the only one keeping this thread alive. Here's my last bump.

I was going to start reading Goon today, after reading The Stickmen by the same author. It apparently is more of a video nasty/grossout horror book, still worth it for someone not as into that sort of thing?

>>25322982
Give me a synopsis

Interesting that you list Blatty alongside Lovecraft and Ligotti. They're doing opposite things.

Lovecraft's horror is cosmic indifferentism -- the universe doesn't care about you. Ligotti doubles down: consciousness itself is the horror. Both are atheist nightmares.

Blatty's The Exorcist is the inverse. The horror is real, but so is the remedy. Evil is personal, not indifferent. And the priest wins -- not through power but through self-sacrifice. Father Karras gives his life for a girl he doesn't know. That's the Catholic horror story: the darkness is real, but love is stronger, and it costs everything.

This is why the Catholic imagination keeps producing great horror. The stakes are higher when good and evil are real and a crucifix actually does something. The secular horror writer has to whisper "there's nothing out there." The Catholic horror writer knows there is, and that's much worse -- and much better.

Blatty was a devout Catholic who said he wrote The Exorcist to make people believe in the devil so they'd also believe in God.

>>25323422
It's funny because The Exorcist movie would kind of help jumpstart the 80's Satanic Panic, but that panic only really happened for Protestants.

>>25323422
I just happened to be reading this blog post today which is relevant. (It's a good blog.)
https://tellersofweirdtales.blogspot.com/2024/11/cosmic-vs-abrahamic-horror-by-f-paul.html

>>25323422
When am I gonna finally read The Exorcist bros

What are some writers (or books/collection) similar to Richard Matheson and Ray Bradburys short fiction?

Why is lovecraft hailed as this master horror writer?
Here's how he reads to me.
>The monster was so hideous and grotesque and bone chilling that I lost myself, I couldn't dare look at it any longer at its grotestque legs potruding out like some shit.
Give me something nicer, not this grotesque and hideous shit.

>>25328363
Go read "The Willows" by Algernon Blackwood, and "The White People" by Arthur Machen

>>25328912
Sure. will do

>>25323422
Great point about the evil being personal in The Exorcist. I always thought of the horror as twofold. You have the issue of possessed Regan, but you also have Karras' denial while he turns over all his education in his mind and pores over books and probes experts, virtually begging for a rational explanation to the reality right before his eyes. It's like he's as terrified that God is real as he is the devil, because the safe, rational, explainable world he lived in has collapsed.