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>>25316621
The actual value in the work consists in the fact that it exhaustively catalogues several forms of perversions, and in this sense it can in principle be of use to psychiatrists or those who have to deal with the criminally insane. But the various forms of sexual depravity are fairly well understood these days in the psychiatric and criminological domains (and via more recent, professional literature), and this reduces the 120 Days to a historical footnote only to be enjoyed as shock value-smut. Still, the 120 Days preceded the Psychopathia Sexualis' cataloguing effort by a century, and my recent writeup on Krafft-Ebing's work is available here:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/25281175
For Sade in general, I did a write-up on a breezy "picture book" a while back, which is here:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24105611
But now that I am actually getting into Wainhouse/Seaver, I am going over the biographical and bibliographical details very carefully, and comparing texts back-and-forth. I've read all the opening critical essays (including Beauvoir's well known "Must We Burn Sade?", figures that a female pedophile would be sympathetic, heh, although she openly admits that his writing can be tedious and autistic, she literally suggests he might have had autism at one point, which would explain the extreme, uncompromising, and fundamentally correct atheism, his best trait as a human being). My next stops will be to read the shorter pieces (Oxtiern, and various short works from Les Crimes de l'Amour), and punch up a more thorough Sade timeline on multiple tracks: his personal life, his various writing periods, and the significant world-historical events around same.
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>>25316621
if you have to ask such a mundane question then no, it does not. you must never read it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pVkzWj-jA&ra=m
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>>25316621
who this?
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it's not emmie
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no, and anyone advertising they've read/bought it is a peak pseud. It's worthless crap you read maybe once out of curiosity and never think about again, unless you're someone who doesn't actually read and wants to posture about it.
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>>25316920
it's my waife, stay away thank you
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>>25318192
The complete text (along with other Sade texts) is readily available (archived) at (archived versions of) supervert.com , for example,
https://web.archive.org/web/20201107234114/https://supervert.com/elibr ary/marquis-de-sade/120-days-of-sod om
"Supervert" is some modern smut writer who I value only because for years the said writer retained an extensive online library of various Sade writings and related things on the eponymous website. This appears to have been taken down (circa 2021-2022 or so) on the current version of the site, but so long as it remains accessible via archive.org, it is of little concern. The website may have gotten a cease and desist (translation under copyright, etc), but if they did, they certainly took their sweet time with it. The material was readily available on the website for several years. Very probably, /lit/ interest in Sade (particularly 120 Days) and other interest from the youtube people and the like might have prompted the cease and desist (gotta incentivize those sales).
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>>25316621
This thread made by the fag in her discord who bought her nitro and keeps asking her to post dancing videos. He posted a video of himself unpacking Crime and Punishment because she recommended it. In the video he performatively spins the book around to showcase how chill and cool he is. Later on he wrote a Stan parody about the two of them to make her think he's clever, meanwhile forgetting that he's a 30 year old millennial and she doesn't even know who the fuck Eminem is. It's like your dad trying to impress by showing off his Metallica concert tickets. He's reading this right now, the repulsive little freak. Everyone know he wrote the first reply to this thread, too.
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>>25316621
My ex was like her. I still haven't recovered
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>>25318971
>Everyone know he wrote the first reply to this thread, too.
Deep down these people hate the e-girls they simp for because they hate themselves for falling for it. He's probably posting that shit to upset her so he can be "one of the good ones" lol. Textbook abuser
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>>25319818
isn't she in connecticut? or maine? Anyways she like asexual or something, and koreantwinkpilled. And really annoying. I really wanna ask her which of her parents the asian and which is the whyte
and rip the discord invite is expired, maybe it's for the best
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120 days is a very funny and insightful novel that you should not read in its entirety. people who read it (>implying) and think
>hurf durf he wrote it because he had a boner for poop duhhh
are complete retards who misunderstand a) de sade's conception of organized power and morality's mutual ineluctability and b) the conditions under which de sade composed the novel (trapped in a prison with frequent and dreadfully vague promises of release due to the whims of a social structure he could never quite understand). there is still nothing quite like it, although it becomes quite dull and repetitive after c. day 15
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>>25318320
But those who read it should be able to know an excerpt that it's a macrocosm of the work, right? That's what I'm asking. By going to random pages I haven't find any explicitly sexual quote, only about shit
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>>25316621
It's actually a great because it shows us how bad the human species really is.
Our true self, our nature which is supposedly pure, is perverted by the society as a whole.
This is a catalog of sins worth reading, in french.
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>>25318923
A seedy talent agency runs those accounts, they are given a cut of the profits to manage an entire army of third world clip farmers and editors who will in turn disseminate the likeness of this person along with a gambling advertisement on various platforms that western children scroll. What you are seeing with this woman's account is someone who has not yet been picked up by this content mill, probably one or two months away from having some unhinged stalker threaten her with something she is so ashamed about she decides to wipe her internet presence completely and go into hiding for a few years.
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>>25320004
Blood Meridian does an infinitely better job of that. You have to be not retarded to see why, though, so most people think it's just le cowboys and le violence.
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>>25318283
>Dilated pupils in brightly lit room
Normally I wouldn't take these posts seriously >>25318362, but, Anon, she's obviously a psycho cunt. Calling that the SSRI stare is 100% accurate and valid, she's obviously on meds, and probably pretty strong meds.
Being on meds is NOT a good sign. She's definitely a dangerous fucking freak, and that's before even getting into her opinions.
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>>25318971
Yeah, she's a psycho whore cunt, and she's attracting a similarly mentally ill simp retard.
Sounds like they belong together. That's literally the exact type of person her personality is meant for. What, she's a psycho whore cunt who openly brags about being into sadist porn, and she's supposed to get with some wholesome chungus guy?
Of course she's going to attract deranged retards with no boundaries. SHE is a deranged retard with no boundaries. You're just putting her on a pedestal because you're even MORE of a pathetic loser simp than this guy you're bitching about. Revolting.
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>>25321130
post screenshots. im scared of discord and have no social medias.it does not make sense her being jewish since she is playing that role of being anti jewish, poking fun and making pol tier jokes about them
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>>25321165
True. I only object to putting a covid-brained egirl on a pedestal.
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>>25318283
She's cute asf. How do you get a girl like this?
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>>25316630
Am I supposed to know who this is
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>>25321306
Good. That crazy fucking bitch asked her mother to get her that book and then read out a passage about children being forced to eat shit with a smile on her face. She should be in a mental hospital.
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>>25321529
Now she's crying on a voice call and two guys are buying her shit from her Amazon wishlist to cheer her up lmao
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>>25321694
She's perfect.
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>>25316630
ANON IT'S YOUR TIME!!!
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>>25321717
ah helll nah she literally baiting
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Honestly a huge redflag for a girl to be cultivating an audience of, well, people like you. I may just have to drop her after her recent attention whoring video about this very thread. PITY. But that's wfoids for you
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>>25316621
She has responded, taking you losers to the mat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsN-wceq9Rs
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>>25322326
Modern women have NO idea how to maintain the air of mystique that is so essential to feminity. Even as a man I understand this better than 99% of them. They just can't help but expose every aspect of themselves all the time.
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>>25322353
Femininity is actually strictly about being a fuckhole with breasts that can nurse the spawn. Everything else is simply "virtue" which is unisex. Any virtuous woman is virtuous in spite of being a woman. Something similar could be said about men, but male nature is slightly more inclined to virtue inherently. Only slightly.
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>>25322347
hate trannycord ops like that especially on dead boards like this. it's not 2006 anymore making an "epic thread" doesn't mean anything it just shits up the board for the dozen guys that still use it
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>>25322372
And stop following random commands from anonymous idiots? Yeah gotcha I'll get right on that cue you pretending to not get sarcasm and trying to get more reddit upswags on a site that doesn't have a like function. Sad fucker
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>>25322381
Virtue is not a function of gender. Sorry ur mad. A mother could get pregnant, then enact a million vices against her own child. Thus we see that there is no inherent virtue in motherhood. Rather, a virtuous woman will be a virtuous mother.
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>>25316621
I'm subbed to this channel and I'm revisiting this cause I'm listening to the video response in another tab, hi Maddie
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>>25322362
This
>>25322353
You have autism
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>>25321456
was not ironic i was only slightly exaggerating.
>>25321306
i know its futile to be dead serious but she should purely for her own well being. she clearly does not have a healthy relationship with the internet. i imagine she tolerates a lot of these gooner parasites because she has self worth issues and needs validation & attention. that's the main reason most people (esp women) broadcast themselves like this on social media. though i will bet she won't accept this until later in life.
b4 somebody says im white knighting or some shit i called her a retard.
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>>25322711
Jesus Christ this is disgusting. She gleefully indulges in fantasies of abusing children and you STILL put her on a pedestal as a poor maiden who has been ABUSED and TAKEN ADVANTAGE of and who needs HELP.
fuck off and die you delusional retarded slave
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>>25322353
"female nature" as in, what women do when there's no outside masculine forces to stop them, is to basically be part chads harem in some hunter gatherer type setting. That's why they appear so neurotic all the time, civilisation itself is at odds with their nature and it causes anxiety/discomfort. It's also why they gravitate towards ideologies like communism, which theoretically would revert us back to a classless moneyless society in which they could spend their days doing nothing but orbiting chad while everything they need is provided for them by the other 90% of dudes slaving away
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>>25323131
Probably not, but she does embody a kind of archetype I've noticed. Way too many sociopath psycho girls in "intellectual" internet circles. They're attracted to odd ideas the same way they are to corpses.
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You're reading way too much into the female psyche. It's just a basic roleplay of the manic pixie dream girl archetype.
You know the trope: some quirky, whimsical, carefree girl whose entire purpose is to help the brooding male protagonist loosen up and enjoy life, except these subhumans are doing it because they secretly get off to the male gaze.
And these millenialshits fall for it every time
>Oh my delicate innocent flower, I must nurture you with gifts and affection.
YUCK!
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>>25323166
Maybe she is, I haven't watched any of her videos. But the kind of woman I'm talking about is nothing like that and loves de Sade, Bataille, Lolita, Nietszche, occult shit, serial killers, etc. Not for any value they might have in themselves but because they get off on muddying aesthetic femininity with the worst evil possible. Morality aside (and I do hate them for that, independently) they're extremely annoying and shit up otherwise interesting conversations with psychosexual noise. Many of them don't chase male attention anywhere near as much as you're describing.
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>>25323225
You are wrong, women outside of royal harems worked quite a lot, usually very hard labor maintaining what we'd now call the homestead or whatever, basically everywhere before the 1940s. The psychology you described is like 30% accurate I'll give you that.
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>>25323239
You're talking about agrarian and post agrarian societies in which men had to force monogamy on women. Before civilisation and farming, when we were hunter gatherers, which is like 90% human history, women spent their days lounging around foraging for berries and fucking chad.
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>>25323259
pretty much as a soon as men ceased to be killed in absurd bronze age numbers, society became monogamous.
polygamy was normally "small-scale" i.e. a man had 2-4 wives, only due to the fact that women outnumbered men 2:1 for large stretches of the bronze age. is it a """chad""" thing? The romans were able to practice monogamy because their uber-agrarian city-state founded in an incredible defensive position was able to reduce mortality, generally.
>inb4 nuh uh
Egyptians were more monogamous than their fellow bronze agers due to the lower male mortality. it's really that simple.
Occasionally the Romans had MASSIVE male casualties, but this tended to only effect a single generation, and the widows just ended up sequestered for the rest of their lives.
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>>25323353
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WCqdBpR45Bg 1:20
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>>25323373
sex non-haver, that's called a fat pussy on a skinny bitch with a thick bush on top. I had a 90 lb gf once. full bush. when she was wearing boy shorts it looked like that.
i mean, this girl is still insane.
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>>25323432
Taking into all known modern hunter-gather societies, polygamy only makes up 20% of marriages. polygamy as you probably know it is actually a product of copper-bronze age civilization. so I just ignored the "hunter-gatherer" angle altogether because it's retarded.
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>>25323439
So let me get this straight, you unironically believe tens of thousands of years ago, when humanity lived in groups of 30 or so in the wilderness, that people actually had monogamous 1:1 relationships and lived happily ever after like some Disney movie. Fucking lmao. The most desirable men definitely didn't just fuck like 5 different women at the same time like they do in the modern day
What are the stats incels repeat all the time, only 40% of men passed on their DNA compared to 80% for women or something?
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>>25323464
>So let me get this straight
98 IQ
>What are the stats incels repeat all the time,
Have you actually checked to see if those statistics are accurate and not the product of a sensationalist poorly conducted study?
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>>25323464
let me repeat myself
>Taking into all known modern hunter-gather societies, polygamy only makes up 20% of marriages
and you do not see ottoman-style harems until the bronze age. and then you dont really see them again until, well, the ottomans.
I have no idea why you have lie about what I said when it is right here on the same page only a few posts above.
>What are the stats incels repeat all the time, only 40% of men passed on their DNA compared to 80% for women or something?
misleading. women whose husband dies and they remarry will necessarily pass on their genes at a higher rate than men whose mortality rate was absurdly high. more than 40% of men passed on their genes at least once*, but women passed on their genes at (perhaps, I do not have the statistics either) double the rate*.
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>>25323478
It's a fucked up statistic because there's a massive outlier time period (which is tens of thousands of years ago) win which male to female was like 1:40.
I dont see why analyzing modern hunter-gatherers is a bad way to understand ancient ones.
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>>25323464
do you think if you live in a group like that there are "chads" and "incels" ? they are all related. and they have a culture which dictates social relations very strongly. its not some modern world where there are no personal obligations or relations that matter. back then this was life or death, if you broke a tattoo maybe they would roast you over an open flame.
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>Trust the heckin science chud, women are good people and like to partner with men of the same status, our le historical studies say so
Okay well I have working eyeballs and can see that this isn't even true in the modern day when conflict and violence is minimal and resources are comparatively abundant, so I have zero reason to believe it was the case in the past when things were way less stable and the concept of morals and ethics were in their infancy or just straight up non existent. Not buying it sorry
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>>25318320
Interesting.
There is a masonic pressure out there for the non-colored or semite to be either a pedo on kompromat or generate a dysgenic child by reproducing old with an old prostitute.
Such anti-masonic-semitic work must be really interesting since only non-coloreds partake in such activities due to genocidal ideas of such masnonic semitic mafia...
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>>25323508
Not interested in libtard jew studies unfortunately. I am capable of observing how women behave in the modern day and I have no reason to believe they acted differently in even worse historical conditions that if anything would exacerbate their hypergamy.
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>>25323478
These niggas think primitive societies were wholesome chungus with everyone getting an assigned tribal gf. As if the women didn't just fuck the most attractive or most powerful men like they do now. The only reason the other guys would get a look in would be to prevent them slitting throats while everyone was asleep
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>itt a bunch of atheist materialist liberals speculate full on 100% fanfiction about early human societies
the idea of the "cave man" is a myth man has always been civilized. man has always married one woman. man has always known God is real. you're a bunch of libtards that believe everyone has always been like you (rootless, ignorant, selfish, retarded, unafraid of the Gods, disloyal, boastful, petty, materialist) and you are quite literally projecting that into the past with zero and I repeat, zero actual evidence other than "I reckon it were like that"
fucking tiresome
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It was a great big ten-volume work that he completed in 1807, whereupon it was promptly seized by the police and (apparently) they just kept it locked up for a few years. About seven years later (c. 1814), following Sade's death, the manuscript, along with every other piece of writing of his that they could get their hands on at the time, was burned at the request of his surviving son (the one who didn't die in battle), and in his presence.
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>>25323112
Women gravitate towards whatever is popular because they were made to be followers. If Communism is popular, that's where they will go; ascribing some sort of innate leftism in them is nonsense. Again, do not reply to me if you are not a gentleman. If you're going to hate women deeply you should at least be able to get the basic facts about them right.
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Threads just become retarded huh. You catch a glimpse of a cute girl and you have to posit historical emotivism to explain why you’re single. Dialogue becomes rebuttal when your excess of free time delineates into explaining your cuck psychology. It’s funny if it wasn’t so misappropriated. Well hell I read all the way down too. Who am I to say anything. Fucking retards the lot of us
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>>25324318
Boy this board's gotten so fucking gay
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the vid is *unlisted
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>>25324496
I'll link it, goy
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/WCqdBpR45Bg
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>>25323636
In an actual primitive society, the "threat of violence" is starvation and bears, idiot.
Men don't need to beat the shit out of women to keep them in line, because in small groups in survival scenarios, hierarchy comes naturally.
Second, partnerships were monogamous. Why? Let me ask you this, if you were cuck #43 in a tribe where the chief had all the sex, would you stay? Would he even be able to provide for all the women without you? And if you're a woman, you probably want a man who sees you as his whole world; because that's an instinctual survival strategy. You need a man to be incredibly invested in the well-being of you and your children, which he won't be if you're just concubine #7.
Society does not function without monogamy until there's enough surplus production that survival becomes a guarantee, and worrying about it becomes moot. Polygamy isn't more primitive, it's less. It's a system that only survives in a realm of abundance.
And hell, even given that, polygamy is still anti-social and against the eusocial good of civilization as a whole. Young men are increasingly depressed and disengaging from the working pool, because why the fuck should they work when they won't be respected or rewarded, and they don't have a family? The family as a motive doesn't exist for them because being with a woman has become a pipedream. And it's little better for women, because they can't settle down either, 90% of women have to cope being pumped and dumped by the same 10% of guys who have no fucking investment in valuing them or caring about children.
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The culture shift is pretty interesting. Ten years ago the idea of someone reading out a thread about them on 4chan was outlandish. There was so much fear and paranoia about what could happen. Now zoomers are doing it on the fly. Maybe that's why the board is so trash now - it's lost whatever mystique it once had.
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the boards basically dead girls like her only post here because they had an older boyfriend that talked about it or something see how slow this shit is moving? back in the day this would alreayd have been bummed off
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>>25324997
That's absolutely not true. Marky, Ciara, Bianca and a million others did it back in 2016 and even before 2016. But it's gotten more.
Every board had attention whores, though of course the social ones like r9k and soc had the bulk. Even x had resident attention whores.
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>>25316621
Bro I watched her video she posted about this thread and god she is so insufferable. Actual performative final boss. She literally lives her entire life LARPing as some scene/MPDG caricature. It's worse than those millennial quirky tiktoks. It's actually crazy how pathetic she acts. Let's hope she rewatches her videos in 15 years. Ive genuinely never hated anyone after a minute's impression more than this
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she reminds me alot of somebody i used to know in 9th grade with the same name. obsessed with gore & old internet memes. she would talk with this bizarre baby voice affect. she saw diapers at dollar general & started talking about wanting babies.
i was obsessed with her.
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>>25323112
>society in which they could spend their days doing nothing but orbiting chad while everything they need is provided for them by the other 90% of dudes slaving away
Hmmmm, isn't that what is currently happening anyway?
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>>25325018
4channel lingo is ubiquitous along with its political views being normalized
its genuinely so nullifying and peak cringe.
I think we can only save this site by holding to the last barrier of shouting NIGGER all the time
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I met 4chan lit "girls" like her in uni and they barely knew how to navigate the site.
what normie goes to the 4chan front page anyway?
I havent seen that page in +10 years. Shes clearly a low functioning attention span loser "girl" who can sense internet losers will throw money at her one day just for a bloody tampon and dirty pair of panties.
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We need to form additional rape patrols
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>>25316621
Absolutely not. Why would anyone argue against burning this crap unless they were a peadophile themselves? Burn it and kill e4veryone who reads it.
120 Days of Sodom literally includes parts where old men slam young children's heads against stone walls while masterbating. Its disgusting, and anyone who reads, let alone enjoys it, deserves to be lynched or hung drawn and quartered.
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>>25328238
How do you know what's in it if you yourself haven't read it?
>Erm well I uh I just read it cuz--
So you think you should be hanged (not hung) drawn and quartered?
>Er, well no it was different when I read I mean other people that read it and liked it and--
So you're the only human with free will that can decide for himself if he wants to read things he doesn't agree with or even like? How did you, a man who reads smut like 120 days of sodom, get to be the king of mankind and the lord of Reading?
You. Are. A. Faggot.
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>chad has fucked a hundred 17 year old girls with his 18 cm cock
>but chud has fucked two hundred 15 year old girls with his 22cm cock
>but then there's chid who has fucked three hundred 13 year old girls with his 30 cm penis that rips them apart
>also that's the whole book lol
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does he rape her in the ass in that movie or is he just talking about the meme where a girl shits on her rapist as a defense? I always thought it was an anal rape cuz of the "dont shit on me" line but having thought about it more, that doesn't necessarily mean he was anally raping her
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>>25329020
I had to double check that I was on /lit/. Did you really fail to understand what I was saying that badly? Did I mess up? Was I not clear enough I was doubitng whether he anally raped her or just normal raped her? How can I improve to make this more clear for you
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pilonidal sinus is where he raped her...
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>>25316621
It's the highest of high brow humor
And in order to mentally reach a level where its laughable, you have to be an extremely deranged person
Think Epstein and others at the top
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>>25318921
I know this a dead thread butagreed. The judge doesn't rape any adult men in the book and he had plenty of opportunities to do so. If anything, it would have been more appropriate to rape him as "the kid" instead of "the man" if you want to keep the themes of the book intact.