>>25320904
I only write smut for my woman (and currently don't have one)

Also there's a disgusting, cringe, restrictive sort of formula you have to stick to for it to have mass appeal. I couldn't do that. Much better when I can be creative as I want and just tailor the broader content to her particular fetishes and feel her squirm and head her make adorable little happy gasping moans while she lays next to me and I read it to her.

Because it would make my conscience guilty. Its bad enough I struggle to quit pornography, I can’t inflict that on more people.
>but they would just get it elsewhere
If nobody tries to make small positive changes then we will never get big positive changes.

>>25320908
>>25320906
For me, it'd be the shame of knowing that's how I made my money. Even if I wrote under a female pseudonym, I'd have to hide it from my parents and they would never know how I had gotten the money.

Post your smut writings here, then

Sex scenes are the least important part of erotica. It's the build up that does all the heavy lifting.
>Why are we not writing smut to make as much money
Because these get-rich-quick scheme fantasies are exactly that. Nothing's stopping you from knuckling down and writing an erotic novella in a week, and then putting it on Amazon. Except your laziness, of course and that's why you have these retarded ideas in the first place.

>>25320919
Anon blustered betwixt the floor and the ceiling sexily as the smouldering blue embers of erotic fire embedded in the face of his forbidden lover, a trans woman named Nikita, followed the undulations of his ample form. Both of their cocks grew stiff as he approached. Hers bewarted; his dainty, furred, and conical as if a fir sapling stood leaking lap upon his pelvis. Tearing off his ceremonial robes he gasped gutteral groans of lust, the clammy air impacted his dry, coarse skin in a taste of the pleasures to come.

Nikita raised a gnarled forefinger, long painted nail like a bleeding red hot iron thrusting out of a violently overstuff pigskin, then poked and squished and prodded the hairy protuberance before her. In sultry tones that attested her 6'5 stature and penchant for cigars she said: "I see you've brought me a present"

"Of course my love, my muse of arya given to me by the noble gods of hyperborea. How could I forget? Today is your birthday after all, and you are my precious."

She chuckled gruffly and continued her brutal ministry of carnal affection. "Really? A Lord of the rings reference? Don't be such a cringe tradlarp zoomer." Coughing now, her hands withdrew to clear the soot streaked snot and wipe it on the $3000 merino wool blanket she lay atop. "Now fuck my face".

Her cried out like Moby Dick when he first saw the whale. Like The Kid when the Judge raped him. Her tongue was sandpaper and her teeth rattling, dead bones. But Nabokov help him if it wasn't the best damn blowjob ever written.

Everyone who reads has had this idea and yet here we all are. It's the tension building in between the sex scenes that really count for women's romance anyway.

>>25320904
>we
You're free to do at any time, I don't know why I need to participate in this.

Why is the filename of the image so long?

>>25320964
What if I actually do it though? And of course you have to do le slow burn romance. That just makes it even hotter. I definitely jerked to sex scenes from RA Salvatore fantasy books as a teen, cause I didn't have any porn at all, and had no internet at home. So I can see where the women are coming from. But still the fact that they read entire novels about it is wild. My ex gf said she liked books on her dating profile. I get there and she talks about the fantasy novels she likes and they're all "romantasy" which just turns out to be YA lit with smut attached. YA lot is dogshit but it'd be fun to write so I figure it can't be that hard. Just have to write under a female pseudonym.

Who is girl in OP pic?

>>25320936
I dreamed last night some stinky cavewoman blew me and then forced me to do her, while my dead dad was sleeping next to us.

>>25325300
your dad wants you, in the most primal way possible, to finally get laid and give him grandkids.
based dad desu

>>25320904
you would write what turns you on as a man
what turns men isn't what turns women on
your audience would be males who fap to that, you would be writing to titillate other men

>>25324289
Micah Moorcock, I think.

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>>25320904
Men writing smut is already a thing. Men smut focuses on what men find attractive, women. Straight women aren't turned on by that. Women's smut always features shirtless studs on the cover, not this.

in other words, you need to love getting pounded by cock to appeal to women
which shouldn't be a problem for a faggot like OP

>>25325346
Im learning more of what turns women on. I want to know because it makes my girlfriend hornier which in turn makes the sex more enjoyable for me. She already says I'm very sensual. All the women I've been with love to call me "daddy" during sex. Its a bit distressing. I think they all like that. They all want to be told they're a good girl too. Im not saying I'd put that in a smut book literally but that dynamic yes.

>>25324289
>>25322240
Its some girl from /soc/ that offered to have sex with me 5 years ago when I was still a virgin. Pretty sure it was fake but I'll never know. Pretty elaborate trolling if so.

>>25320904
Writing romantasy takes a certain kind of commitment. Especially for the truly depraved bullshit that women seem to love. I've thought about cashing in on the trend but it wouldn't be an authentic endeavor, which means writing it would require that much more work.

>>25320904
The kind of smut women like requires you to build a world in your head for them. They want the smut but it has to be wrapped in some thick fantasy or they feel guilty for enjoying it.

>>25325407
that's not so elaborate anon. I hope the humiliation pushed you to get an actual /soc/ial life.

>>25325801
A bunch of other people knew her from the Adopt a NEET thread. It might've been a scam for money.

>>25325519
I would definitely make a real fantasy story for it. Just with an erotic angle. I feel like that could be an enjoyable prompt. Something to do with a donut steel OC fantasy world that no one would care about otherwise.

>>25320913
yeah, that's it, that's why you guys aren't writing million dollar romantasy novels, your integrity
give me a break

>>25325833
No one will care about it regardless. People don’t understand the amount of marketing and paid advertising that is required for a book to not be drowned by the Amazon Kindle algorithm. Amazon is already dealing with like 1k+ books being published a day plus the Indian/Chinese mass publishing and now the AI authors all trying to make a quick buck.

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Hysterical literature

>>25325357
>Moorcock
More like more cock amiright

>>25326803
Tumblr dialect should get you permabanned from writing

>>25325852
IDK about everyone else but for me yes. Porn is bad, I'd feel terrible if I made money off of selling degenerate shit.

I'm still writing my fetishy erotic novel though. I can't stop thinking about it and it's fun. I'll just never publish it and delete it eventually.

>>25320904
Sounds like a you-problem Mr ideasman.

>>25327091
>Porn is bad, I'd feel terrible if I made money off of selling degenerate shit.
this is a fact

>>25320904
Because I think that style of writing is perfect for the audience. I don't think they really want well-written smut scenes; I think they want the drama that leads to them. For example, the best smutty prose you can come up with won't do shit for them if you haven't got the fem MC alone with the dangerous leader of the archmages, who she believes is actually evil, in his tower of pleasure, where she learns he has a secret, vulnerable side because of a trauma in his past. I couldn't write this shit seriously.
I do write erotica, though, for men, but men don't really read that. You can't expect to make the big bucks there.

>>25327242get
I'm a man and I need context to get into it, but anything novel-length just feels like a colossal waste of time -- I am simply not going to goon for hours reading hundreds of pages to get myself off; the shame I would feel after such an activity would be overwhelming. So it would either have to be an actual story with erotic elements on the side or something dense but brief.

>>25327445
My plan is to follow a kind of waves-within-waves structure where there are multiple climaxes (hah) with extremely intense sexual content that end chapters and/or subsections within chapters, with more platonic chapters sprinkled in between. That way you always coom at a stopping point. Seems the best way to do it.

t. >>25327091

>>25327091
it's more that the posters here don't acknowledge the skill and luck that comes with making money off this stuff. maybe it doesn't take literary skill, but it takes some kind of ability to understand what women want, tap into the market, and get noticed. the posters here don't have that ability, will never have that ability, and even if they did, likely wouldn't have the luck in their favor. just kind of annoying to read "the only reason i'm not making that maas money is i choose not to sully the world with more porn"
get real

>>25327453
It just sounds like you're mad that we have standards, honestly. No one ever claimed to be able to become Maas 2.0 overnight, everyone knows 99.99% of writers make almost no money.

>>25327445
Common issue. That's why male erotica writers usually go for harem stories, so they can give readers their release chapter after chapter. The result is usually Rawlyraws stuff with a self-insert MC fucking dozens of women with a flimsy excuse and barebones story behind.

>>25327452
So edging?

>>25327091
>I'm still writing my fetishy erotic novel though. I can't stop thinking about it and it's fun.
Same. I'm writing a trap elves novel. It's not terribly sexy at the start, and won't have a ton of smut, but I have to write it. Not sure what I'll do with it once it's done.

>>25327463
Not quite, I mean that it's not meant to be read in one sitting. I have something like this currently:

>Chapter 1
Normal novel stuff, somewhar sexual since the main characters are all horny people (female MC is basically a vtuber (derogatory)) but actual sex is entirely a background thing. If the reader isn't already horny it should be easy to read casually. Establish most things here.
>Chapter 2
Similar to 1 but pick up on one of the strings that will lead to a sex scene. Still mainly normal plotfag shit but building tension.
>Chapter 3
Escalate tension, force a confrontation: In this case it's the female MC acknowledging that she wants to fuck/be with the male MC, who she hates, and then (elaborately and creatively) getting herself off to fantasies about him. The back end of this chapter is straight smut and ends with her final orgasm.

Chapters 1-3 are meant to be a "unit" that roughly corresponds to a relatively slow burn erotica story where you read it to get off and want to finish the whole thing at one time (or at least that's what I did as a teenager lol). Or chapter 3 in itself, for slower readers. 1-2 can be read before I suppose.

>Chapter 4
The prose is now entirely platonic, or at least as much as chapter 1's was. For this specific story female MC is now processing the implications of her feelings and it starts out after we skip ahead to halfway through the next day. Clean cut from the smut of the previous chapter so if you put it down and picked it back up you're not reminded so much of jacking off.

Chapters 4-6 (again, roughly, haven't written that far yet) will form another cycle structured exactly like 1-3 where you build up to a big sex scene then reset after. In this case she'll actually fuck the male MC after some negotiating away their previous conflicts and she seduces him (or maybe he *actually* has just baited her and she's being baited into his control??!!? Drama??!) etc. and so on blah blah blah. And then the pattern will repeat, aligned with the overall plot structure but not chained to it.

I really need to do more productive things with my time this is so fucking gay lol.

>>25327513
>Not sure what I'll do with it once it's done.
I genuinely think I'm just going to delete mine lmao. Ive done it before for smaller projects.

Actually, I might end up rewriting one of those and just making it a normal romance + adventure story. There wasn't any fetishy stuff written into the plot like the one I'm doing now, which involves a harem of women with really big tits. The non-sexual story is a massive power fantasy (I was 19 so aspects of it were extremely juvenile) in a post apocalyptic sci fi setting so the slop addicts on royal road might like it.

>>25327524
You see, I think this is why male erotica doesn't take off. Women are perfectly fine with having 50k between 700-word sex scenes in their fantasy romances, but men will actually get angry if you put graphic scenes in their male power fantasy. You either have to write only for that, which doesn't get a big audience because you're not really telling a story, or you remove the sex and let it be implied, after which point it's not erotica anymore.

>>25327518
>the reader isn't already horny it should be easy to read casually.
Naturally, go on.
>Still mainly normal plotfag shit but building tension.
Good stuff.
>chapter 3
That sounds pretty interesting.
>(or at least that's what I did as a teenager lol).
I thought we all did this?

>this is so fucking gay lol.
Have faith anon, it doesn't sound bad. Id want to read it.

>>25327532
I think you're correct. The thing I'm working on now (and describing in >>25327518) has breaks in the actual sex but the woman-oriented-psychosexualsocioeconomic tension and interpersonal drama never really lets up. I read some classic romance books (mostly Austen) to try and get a better feel for pacing. I need to read Sarah J. Maas too to see what HR ladies like but her writing pains me to read so I've been putting it off.

The stuff I've written before had way more of a separation and they were all short (sometimes very short) stories.

>>25327535
Thank you!

>>25327562
I've written several erotica fanfics on AO3 aimed at men, and the most popular ones are by far the harem types with sex scenes chapter by chapter. The one I tried something like you're trying barely got any clicks, even though it's my favorite and there's a real story there.

>>25327600
Yeah that makes sense. I'm just writing for fun and to get these characters and ideas out of my head so to speak. I'm trying to make it theoretically appealing to women as an abstract exercise but I don't have it in me to build all the AO3 tropeslop into it.

>>25327633
To make it appealing to women there are a few rules you need to follow. First it's to not sexualize your female lead or female characters in general, yet make it feel likes she's attractive. Most women tell themselves they can be attractive "if they put their minds to it"; it's a nice little lie that keeps them going. Translating this to your story is harder than it sounds. Then the setting needs to feel like the fem MC is being oppressed by something or someone, usually it's "the system", but at some point that system needs a face. It's not enough for her to be a hero, she needs to be a victim herself. The last but not least is the male love interest. In short, he needs to be a bad boy. He needs to be dangerous. "Danger is sexy" in the words of Sandor Clegane x Sansa fans everywhere. The trick though it to not make him irredeemable. He needs to have a "good side" that only the fem MC is privy to, so she can "fix him". This is crucial.
That is it. If you follow this you can write your MC as a man and nobody will notice, and if you're lucky, you're the next J Maas.
Pro tip: mom bad, daddy good.

>>25327724
Huh, I actually have most of that already except the first thing about not making her sexy (couldn't help myself, she's got big tits and a big ass). Multiple aspects of all of those criteria actually. She's oppressed by both her very mildly abusive aunt that she lives with and who wants her to marry a bald rich guy from their small town and by her deadend career as something like a cam girl. I even have a scene written out where she gets mad at one of her simps and bitches at him for requesting too much content. It's framed in a way that I think a lot of women would sympathize with (I tried to evoke a fight I had with an ex over her sending me nudes more than once in a blue moon) and make her seem like a victim despite charging this poor guy $100 an hour just to talk to her. The male MC is literally an outlaw and treats women as disposable objects (main impetus for her hating him at first is because her friend-and-sometimes-lover is fucking him in exchange for something) but she's so *mysterious, alluring, and powerful* that he has to actually *get to know her* before she'll fuck him and then *makes him fall in love (and she falls in love too, despite herself) and see her for more than her gigantic pale tits* etc. He has various good attributes I wont get into here that are mostly only revealed after he fucks her. This shit is so funny lol.

>>25327741
Yeah, you need to remove the ass and tits. Women get a whiff of that stuff and you're out, simple as that. Checkout r/menwritingwomen. She's a camgirl right, so they'll infer she's attractive. That's enough. Also, I feel like you're walking on thin ice. You must not make the readers feel like she's a slut or she's using people. If she's doing sex-work (women will think it's sex work, they don't give a shit) you need to give her a real noble reason to do it, even if she's ripping off dudes. She must need that money real bad and for a good reason. Women will forgive nearly everything as long as it feels like you didn't have a choice.

>>25327754
Nah I'm not going to publish this, I'm not worried about it.

Yes the sex work is framed as something she was "forced" into for various reasons, at least in her own mind (in my notes she was just taking the path of least resistance lmao), and she does need the money badly. And what do you know, the male MC turns out to be way richer than his outlaw lifestyle would have suggested!

>>25327757
Put it in KDP, anon. Who gives a fuck? You're not saving the world by refusing to release more erotica into the wild.

>>25327754
That's kind of a weird subplebbit. I think I see why what they're posting is bad, some of it made me cringe extremely, but it feels like the issue is the authors in question just being bad writers in general. They seem oddly desperate to make the excerpts they post seem as egregious as possible. I do see the point though, thanks again.

>>25327767
It's personal honor autism + there are, as you noted, some things about it that women would probably hate. The main story past about the halfway point is fundamentally tied into harem stuff lol. If I took out the self indulgent malebrained aspects it wouldn't be fun for me to write, and that is the only reason I'm writing it at all.

>>25327804
No, I get it. My trap elves story would probably fall into the LGBTQ+ umbrella if I were to market it seriously, but I'm sure as fuck am not writing for those people. It's for straight guys who read trap doujins in the Panda. Do they even read books? I have no idea. But I might put in on KDP anyway; at worse I'll get no sales, which is the same thing as deleting it.

>>25320904
Can't do it in the EU and get paid unless you use a real name and companies and such are searchable online so I really don't want that attached to me.

>>25327724
>First it's to not sexualize your female lead or female characters in general
I can't agree with this. This feel like "show, don't tell", in that it's advice that might 'correct' someone with otherwise weak judgement who'd be tempted to be blunt and go on about how soft and perky and jiggly the protagonist's boobs are (given that's what would make sense to a man). But women absolutely do want to feel sexy, and definitely so in the context of an erotic story, so long as you do so in a way that has tact and doesn't break relateability, though I suspect this is what you're trying to get at with "yet make it feel likes she's attractive".

To get at something that relates to both this and the "the femMC is being oppressed by something or someone" aspect at once, I would say that 'feeling insecure' is one of the stronger tendencies that drives how erotica with female protagonists is written, and creating a character that captures particular insecurities well is a goal you'd want to aim for. Being sexy is fine and even a very desirable quality if you write about the MC's feelings about her awareness of her own desirability in the right ways, so long as you are aware of how women regard their own appeal and why they may desire to be more or even less sexy than they might be seen as in a given situation.

>>25327741
>>25327757
>she's got big tits and a big ass
Fine, give her those. Curvy women exist, just make sure you get the implications of this on the mindset of a woman who has this kind of body and don't go on about them in a way that an actual woman like this wouldn't think about herself. You're going to have to try real hard to make the overall scenario you've come up with actually work though, because women generally don't want to think of themselves as petty whores or self insert into a character like that, you should have a good reason to want your protag to be a camgirl selling her own body that will sell her as a character. "Gigantic pale tits" as a positive self-description would be strange without a certain amount or sarcasm or self depreciation involved, so I'm starting to understand why the other anon is trying to get you to at least think about this stuff harder.

>Nah I'm not going to publish this
Then don't regard most of this too seriously. Write what works authentically, but consider the perspective you're aiming to come from.

>>25328900
Thank you for the advice anon, that's all generally helpful and I'll make use of it if/when I ever publish something more serious. "Gigantic pale tits" and the other crude, direct things I've written are definitely not how she'd describe herself or how I'd write it lol. I'm kind of poking fun of myself and erotica in general by writing like that.

Uneasiness—I'm not sure if that's the right word—with her own appearance is something I built into her. The tension between being physically almost-perfect and all the pressure and expectations and external insincerity that comes with that AND her overcompensatory(?) character flaws are big parts of her as a character, especially at the start. She does use her appearance to her advantage—but that's more than justified by the trouble and pain they cause her, if anything (in her own mind) it's merely a drop in the bucket against all the trouble she perceives is connected to it. I'm trying to connect the progress of her romance with the male MC (who, as mentioned earlier, will solve her money problems—NOT explicitly, there's no haggling or anything that could be construed as gold digging, it "just happens" in a similar way that Madame Bovary's misadventures "just happen" to her, but hopefully not as cynically) so that as they grow closer together she reevaluates her self image and becomes psychologically healthier and more comfortable in her own skin. I wouldn't say she's *insecure*, more that she feels unknown(?) and somewhat "objectified", but I want the emotional resolution of those feelings to feel similar to how overcoming insecurities feels.

Not that it's happily ever after once they fuck, there are further ups and downs and emotional distress. But I want it to trend upwards.

>>25328900
I meant the don't sexualize thing in the manner in which men tend to write sexy women. Check that subreddit. It's like the male gaze but for writing. You definitely want to make the fem MC "attractive" (even if you never giver her a single description). Easiest ways is to have some male friend orbit her (someone she'll never be attracted to because 'he feels like a brother to her') or have one scene where she's forced to 'dress up' and everybody's jaws fall to the floor. The real advice there is to no write her in a way it feels like a man was writing her to get off. This can be forgiven, of course, if your writing is really good and your narrative is really compelling. A lot of women love Game of Thrones and The Witcher, after all (though I think those fall into the social aspect of enjoyment for women).

>>25328900
>>25328934
The thing about the sexy appearance and the camgirl stuff is that it can work but it needs to work FOR the story. Recently I saw a movie with a female character, played by the gorgeous PAWG Elle Fanning, where she got pregnant from her high school boyfriend and became a single mom, then to make ends meet she becomes a camgirl that simulates sex with aliens. So there we had a sexy fem MC who does 'sex work' (though no real sex ever happened), but she did it for the noblest of reasons: to feed her child. And it wasn't only a story about her getting rich. Along the movie, she developed a deep connection with her own mother and reconnected with her father. You'll find these 'noble' beats everywhere, and not only in women stories.

>>25329018
>>25327724
OP here, I would not sexualize the female lead at all. I don't even really like to anyway, if I have a pretty female character I will write about her face, or at most say she's slender, I will not be like "yes she had such luscious hips" that's just boring and crude. I would make a female character easy to self insert as. With minimal physical description of her.

>>25327453
It takes luck, bro. That's all it is. Maybe some marketing connections, which again is luck. There is nothing exceptional about the writing in published goonfics.

>>25329409
Yup, that's right. Ideally you don't even describe her at all. I like the crude descriptions but only if men are your audience.

>>25329418
I wouldn't describe her at all and have her tame a savage man. Gotcha. So what kind of kinks or depravity are too far? I would imagine if the male MC kills or eats babies that's a turnoff, despite white women loving to kill babies by the millions....but seriously I feel like women fetishize death, including their own deaths, they want to feel completely controlled and possibly in danger during sex. That's been my experience with my irl sex partners who all wanted me to be "daddy" and in at least one case I didn't mind. The other one tried to call me "daddy" while not actually putting out, it's pretty hard to be dominant when she will suck your dick then refuse to let you put it in.

>>25329428
>So what kind of kinks or depravity are too far?
Use your common sense. Remember, the male lead must be a bad boy, but not irredeemable. Even if you write 'dark romance' and the guy is a legit Brazilian gang boss who burns crackheads in tires, you must not go too far. Eating babies is too far.

>>25329428
It's not death (except for the really degenerate freaks who I hope die without having kids) it's like... loss of control but in a self indulgent way, usually. They want to be totally enveloped and feel safe (they mean a lot of complementary things by safe) and the various lies they layer up to make their public personality torn away and their heart's desire (which often is something very perverse) granted to them against their will. Or something. I see what you mean, Bataille (rest in piss) apparently had similar ideas, but it's not accurate IMO. Some do get onto the positive feedback loop taboo desensitization hell machine and end up needing weirder and weirder violent shit but I don't think it's a majority. Men suffer the same thing but visually.

Potentially contributing to that feedback loop is part of why I'd feel bad about publishing porn btw, even though the weirdest stuff in my story is (I think) not badhearted or violent at all. Just medium-light bdsm, lesbian-harem stuff, and some very specific oddball (hand fetish tier, but more boring) fixations I have. Although there is one pretty depraved scene where they hold hands and watch the sunset whilst cuddling under a blanket.

>>25329418
>>25329428
Personally I want to be able to form a clear picture in my mind of everyone involved when I'm reading, even if appearances are only mentioned a few times or obliquely. It does make sense that vagueness maximises appeal to the lowest common denominator but that seems soulless and tedious to write. I guess I see how it would work with the tropebait that AO3 goonheifers seem to expect: You just make the female MC into a list of hooks for whatever tropes youre targeting and leave her as a conceptual skeleton. Grim.

>>25327091
an actual artist wouldve made it his goal to turn porn into something constructive, if its current state REALLY bothered him

>>25329485
>It does make sense that vagueness maximises appeal to the lowest common denominator but that seems soulless and tedious to write. I guess I see how it would work with the tropebait that AO3 goonheifers seem to expect: You just make the female MC into a list of hooks for whatever tropes youre targeting and leave her as a conceptual skeleton. Grim.
It is what it is. Have you read the summary of that minotaur milking novel? Can't get more self-inserty than that.

>>25320904
I don't think I know what women want out of a smut scene, so I doubt I'd be able to fool them into reading whatever I make

>>25329489
>...between the thrusts that filled her mouth with a savage fullness she—barely coherent, drunk with lust—continued: "Studies have *GLOCK* shown that porn addiction can *GLOCK* ruin marriages, *GLUCK* precipitate infidelity and desensitize *GLOCK* young *GACK* men to realistic *AULK* standards of feminine beauty."
>"Beauty" tipped him over the cliff. His sinewy hands dug deep into her hair and pulled her all the way to his base, and he flooded her mouth. The transcendental fulfillment of a psychologically healthy relationship fought with lust and animalistic satisfaction in his nervous system and created a based and redpilled new way of enjoying sex that, despite his brutal will, elicited in him a deep sensual moan.
>He relaxed his grip and let her pull away. She smiled even as she coughed and gagged and kissed his now softening cock. Gentle little kisses that belied the pulsing ache still within her. She gazed, adoringly, up across his iron-firm torso into his piercing blue eyes. "And that's why we're going to wait until marriage to go all the way." Her fingernail traced a looping path on his stomach. "And..." Her face burned red. "If you want... We can, um..." A self conscious, conspiratorial giggle. "Install porn blocker apps on our phones together later. Maybe?"
Joking aside I wish I could do that but I'm not that smart lel
>>25329503
A bit. I kind of try to forget that it exists and pretend that old ladies aren't reading what seems to be quasibestiality.