GAD SAAD

As someone economically left but sympathetic to certain right wing social views, I really wish the level of scholarship on the right wasn't absolute cancer. It's difficult to see why anyone semi literate or thoughtful would want to associate themselves with that movement. A right wing intelligentsia would be a godsend.

>>25322509
>zionist slop telling goyim that their life sucks and that they should be miserable while they live at their fullest back at the synagogue
Zzz...

>>25322525
>economically lef
well that's fucking dumb but nice job larping as an "intellectual" or whatever tho

>>25322525
Higher education has spent decades being as hostile as possible to the formation of right wing intellectuals.

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>>25322509
I coined the term "suicidal empathy" and memed it and now I'm mad that others are making millions of dollars off the ideas that I give away for free again while I remain broke as fuck

>>25322525
you're gay and retarded, do the world a favor and kill yourself faggot

>>25322595
You deserve it probably

>>25322509
what is the point of this book when Camp of the Saints exists?

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>>25322601
in the words of Colin Quinn
>It's ridiculous that I'm not a millionaire by now. It's just rude.

>>25322602
They need to keep reinventing the wheel as their bullshit enters popular consciousness so they can disseminate their thoughts in semi-public without inviting ridicule. Camp of the Saints is known for what it is.

>>25322525
>A right wing intelligentsia
Critical thought is antithetical to right wing ideology and you literally cannot have an intelligentsia without critical thought unless you go full sophist.

>>25322595
I can't confirm that you coined it, but my immediate thought on first hearing about this book was that I was already familiar with the term and had even used it myself before. A really quick search on 4plebs finds lots of occurrences of it before this year, going back all the way to 2014, though it's questionable at what point the word combination became popular enough to count as a unified memetic concept. So yeah, it's annoying that this guy is being being described as having "coined" the term.

>>25322509
>Suicidal empathy
>Toxic empathy

You can tell that anyone who unironically uses these terminology is a straight up asshole.

>>25322579
Intellectual output doesn't have to happen exclusively through higher education. There's a variety of right wing alternative media groups which include written publications. There are right wingers who have written books which are somewhat interesting, like Curtis Yarvin and Steve Sailer. But it's all just okay. It's never particularly exceptional. Maybe the most exceptional right winger was Nick Land and he started off very left.

I thought the concept of "high trust" was an interesting route to go down actually. You used to hear it more a few years ago. But it never really got any development beyond "high trust = no niggers". It's a little disappointing. This could have been a concept that precipitated a new paradigm of social thinking. Not just in terms of ethnicity but applied to everything else too. How can we design buildings and infrastructure and educate the youth to produce a high trust society? At the time, people were talking about how great Japan and Singapore are. But it seems like nobody internalized any lessons from that other than being homogeneous.

>>25322628
I don't know if this is necessarily true in all cases. But it seems to be common at least among right wing movements today. You could probably argue that fascists replacing dialectical materialism with a kind of ethnic equivalent is a form of critical engagement. But then they betray it all by talking about the mystical Aryan spirit or whatever.

>>25322635
On second thought, after being called an asshole by this guy >>25322635 the term I might've used was "suicidal altruism." In context, I used it to refer to the ethics Jesus advocates for with the whole "give all your money to the poor," "if anyone asks for your stuff, give it to them," and "If anyone takes your stuff, don't try to get it back," "turn the other cheek," (with no clear provision allowing self defense), etc. Stuff that, if you really put it into practice, might easily lead to an early grave if you didn't live around nice people.

>>25322654
meant to first reply to my own post here >>25322629

>>25322650
>curtis yarvin
>nick land
opinion discarded. you're just a braindead consumer of e-celeb slop

>>25322654
>might easily lead to an early grave if you didn't live around nice people
And then you get the eternal reward of heaven

>>25322668
Alternative media is utilized by the right to avoid institutions they see as ideologically captured by leftists. In a very real sense, 'e-celeb slop' comprises a large portion of modern right wing discourse.

>>25322683
>Alternative media is utilized by the right to avoid institutions they see as ideologically captured by leftists
Let's not mince words here. In this observation they are correct.

>>25322525
>I want to both steal everyone's money and prevent everyone from having fun
Lol, grim

>>25322628
Retard

>>25322628
>Critical thought is antithetical to right wing ideology
No, it's not, you actual retard.

>>25322595
So in a sense your memeing of suicidal empathy was suicidal empathy.

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>>25322525
Firstly, it’s completely impossible for a real right-wing intelligentsia and related cultural institutions to form because the right-wing today is entirely driven by online slop populism based in the United States, of which Gad Saad is a prominent member. Every conservative movement in the West is beholden to these English-language bot farms, rage-bait factories and “independent” media orgs propped up with Jewish and Arab money. Conservatives don’t have an interest in authentic intellectual or artistic momentum.

Secondly, and most important, the right-wing today is barely right-wing anyways. They’re still starting foreign wars in the Middle East for freedom and equality, still saying we should control immigration because the migrants don’t support the LGBT enough, etc. Marco Rubio released a statement today saying China will become a liberal democracy one day. Any real criticism of liberal ideology is suffocated or recast as nonsense like “suicidal empathy” so our maladies in the West can be treated as pop psychology disorders and not deeply ingrained defects in our political economy that requires a lot of effort to change. Conservatards are not serious people. They will shoot themselves in the foot as always and the West will continue to become brown and gay.

>>25322704
>No, it's not, you actual retard.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve

>>25322716
>Marco Rubio released a statement today saying China will become a liberal democracy one day.
He's not wrong, it probably will, but it will be a long process.

>>25322525
>Saad's thesis is not "empathy is bad." It's "empathy without boundaries, reciprocity, or cost-benefit analysis becomes self-destructive."

"boundary" tells me everything, i blame the western psychology/therapy movement. it was the left that promoted that shit right? they all need to burn. i'm not a right-wing chud motherfucker like these whiteniggers on this website but my fucking god am i angrier at the left/progressives/liberals than they are.

>>25322725
He’s very wrong, but regardless, it’s outrageous and insulting to hope another country you have relations with will have regime change and just shows how libtarded conservatives in power in the West still are besides Trump. Trump only succeeded because he doesn’t actually care about politics, only himself, and this allowed him to soar above the mediocrity of liberal societies.

>>25322716
You've been conquered in such totality that you give credence to the theater they make as if it were real. And its all because of your narcissistic propensity to pontificate instead of doing anything of value. The first step towards an actually better future is recognizing your failure and then, plotting an exit strategy. There is nothing left for you here but temporary profit in treachury.

I wanted to like Gad Saad because I like contrarians. And researching psychology of commerce is a good idea. But he is so full of himself, and so arrogant and looking down on the plebs that I had to stop. It also shows in his books.

>>25322733
>He’s very wrong
China is very nationalistic at the moment, but with time it may become infiltrated by a young generation of half chinese racemixers who will try to change that. I'm not saying this is a positive thing, but it's a very real possibility.

>>25322720
>In economics, the Laffer curve illustrates a theoretical relationship between rates of taxation and the resulting levels of the government's tax revenue. The Laffer curve assumes that no tax revenue is raised at the extreme tax rates of 0% and 100%, meaning that there is a tax rate between 0% and 100% that maximizes government tax revenue.[a][1][2]
that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion

>>25322753
>that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion
The discussion was how critical thought relates to right wing ideology (or rather doesn't). I figured bringing up a cornerstone of right wing economic theory that is believed uncritically and contrary to evidence would be highly relevant.

>>25322650
Yarvin is "just okay" huh? Why, because he doesn't write in a bloated academic style stuffed with obnoxious hedging or pointless references? The person who made this post is probably like, a 21 year old college student.. who is he to say what is good or bad? That's the problem with this board. You have people who are nowhere close to the level of the people they are critiquing acting as if their opinion matters. They never make an argument they just make a vague reference to one like, "just okay". What does it mean to be okay? What does it mean to be good? Why is he one but not the other?

>>25322650
It's because beneath all the pomp and snobbery all the right has to offer is a platter of very tepid, uninspiring, bourgeois, but ultimately sensible beliefs. They want clean streets, low crime, orderliness, and a sense of community and homogeneity. They recognise that immigration and social liberalism stand in the way of achieving this, so they oppose them. As well, they believe in economic liberalism, the freedom of the market, 'hard work'. As a result they are hostile to art and higher education, and want to defund all but the 'productive' disciplines. The right doesn't produce intellectuals because it is a movement of the practical, bourgeois, bull-headed, 'sensible' types who make the world go around, not of freethinkers, dreamers, visionaries.

GAD SAAD should change his name to GAD GLAAD and lighten up a bit.

>>25322525
There's a billion dollar NGO and media complex promoting reactionary thought that isn't just ragebait dopamine farming for idiot goyim like Fox News. The heritage foundation, brookings institute, first things mag etc. are all part of it.
The reason nobody pays attention to them is twofold:
1. Most reactionaries prefer the cheap dopamine garbage
2. These institutions are upheld by billionaire dark money which insulates them from market selection pressures so they aren't accountable to an audience of any kind to keep existing.
The soiblobs with cushy jobs at these institutions are some of the most soul-crushingly mediocre people out there. It's ironic that lefty publications are on average more readable due to market forces.

>>25322874
>that is believed uncritically
>source: your gaping faggot asshole
shut the fuck up and go kill yourself, retard

>>25322926
No, it's because the arts and media in general are gatekept by retarded leftist faggots. It's that simple.

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>>25322525
you really triggered the righties with this one...

Leftists are just spouting their useless tautologies again
>right wing thought can’t be intelligent because it just can’t!!!!

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>>25323339
YWNBAW

>>25323332
Unfortunately basing your whole ontology in materialism its no wonder most of its tied to market forces and about as valuable as such and nothing at all transcendent.

>>25323336
This is mostly due to market selection as I outlined here >>25323332. To succeed in the right wing NGO/Elite media circuit you need to be highly credentialed and elite and/or have insider knowledge. Most Brookings fellows are ivy-educated. Rod Dreher wasn't elite-educated but had insider knowledge about the Orban regime and was able to leech off the Hungarian taxpayer and make 3x the average national salary while living in Budapest and writing for a regime paper. That gravy train is over now though.

>>25323356
Which publications are currently keeping the lights on with transcendent values?

>>25322716
>Firstly, it’s completely impossible for a real right-wing intelligentsia and related cultural institutions to form because the right-wing today is entirely driven by online slop populism based in the United States
It wasn't allowed to exist in any other format. Right-wing populism has been getting mortared by its ideological rivals for over a century. No I'm not referring to post-WW2 society as an origin point, although it sure didn't help that a nationalist, populist, volkist party immediately disappointed everyone by invading a neighboring nation and giving the Rothschilds an excuse to demonize them. The sort of stuff typically valued by the right-wing has not been permitted to create any sort of foothold because ideas such as
>small close communities
>neighbors from the same genetic stock
>everyone goes to the same church
do not mesh with industrialism or globalism, two ideas focused on amassing as much power and money as humanly by creating a tossed salad of every possible race or religion, all sharing the same manacles of wage-slavery. Additionally those who profited off all this began to understand they can use the inevitable incompatibility of industrial-globohomo to create a perpetual aura of paranoia, dread and terror (because human beings were never hardwired to mingle with 50 different kinds of exterior tribe, constantly, in every facet of their life) that justify things like an authoritarian police state and domestic spying. Among other things. Just look at Britain.

When you deprive human beings of that instinct to belong, residing in a group of human beings like them, in a small community, where priorities are generally very clear, and also spend a disproportionate amount of time inflicting Shock & Awe on any group who tries to divert human society away from what amounts to economic chattel (because it's virtually impossible to live a decent, healthy life without participating in the globohomo game; another form of emotional and ideological terrorism, making people submit before something they inherently understand is unnatural) you can't seriously be surprised when that instinct doesn't simply "go away" like that faggot Lenin implied it would. It was beer halls yesterday, it's the internet today. But even this is fairly deliberate because, as you seem to have accepted, no "intelligentsia" is going to come into existence through a bunch of ordinary people knowing something is wrong but not hashing out the intricacies of why in any way beyond yelling about it. Meanwhile kosher Frankfurt faggotry dictates the FBI, CIA and every major wealthy university in the country.

>>25322716
>the right-wing today is barely right-wing anyways
right
>They’re still starting foreign wars in the Middle East
semitism
>freedom and equality
it was always semitism, that was always a semitic lie from the talmudvision to keep the zogged out boomers saying yes to the pollsters
>still saying we should control immigration because the migrants don’t support the LGBT enough
that was always semitic replacement migration for migrants distort the labor and housing markets while consuming government welfare
>Marco Rubio released a statement today saying China will become a liberal democracy one day
semitic cant
>Any real criticism of liberal ideology is [replacement migrated with] nonsense like “suicidal empathy
basically ever since the epstein class assassinated charlie and still couldnt get anyone under age 50 and not totally zogged by the talmudvision to support their iran war, it has been clear that there is only semitism and antisemitism as the response to semitism

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>>25322650
>the concept of "high trust" was an interesting route to go down
yeah well i dont know if you remember it being discussed 10 years ago but it leads to misogyny which is the beating heart of the right wing
>fascists replacing dialectical materialism with a kind of ethnic equivalent
meaningless
>then they betray it all by talking about the mystical Aryan spirit
transitioning from an ethnicity to an ethic spirit (picrel) which anyone can participate in is just basic political coalition building. on the other hand the concept of the aryan spirit can be used to replace the ancestral aryan religion with an offshoot of judaism in which the aryan is his own messiah instead of the jew is his own messiah

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>>25322509
the suicidal empathy was for the bars of soap produced in the eastern german regions during the wars of banking unification

>>25322509
Let me guess
>it's bad to have empathy for Palestinians, dumb fucking goy, don't you know they're a bunch of terrorists who will bomb you the second they're given the chance?
Lmao no thanks I've been inundated with kike propaganda my entire life and I'm actually genuinely really really sick and tired of it.

>>25322716
Right wingers need to start taking cues from Pol Pot if thats the case.

>>25322525
KYS, shitlib

>>25323392
See? You're falling into the same trap as conservatives then. The idea of a pragmatic notion of producing and consuming, which is why vulgar Marxism and modern conservatism have so much in common.

>>25322628
Gottem

>>25322746
Underrated post

>>25322650
>But it seems like nobody internalized any lessons from that other than being homogeneous.
Because that's literally the only way to achieve it.

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>>25322650
>somewhat interesting, like Curtis Yarvin
Shalom, jewboy

>>25323343
It can't. History bears it out.

>>25323343
Hic Rhodus, hic salta

>>25323336
when you look at right wing discourse it's all basically just "I'm scared of black people because they are violent and will beat me up". They praise white people for their "social conformity" and economic success. The right values money, family, and everything that's normal, castrated and 'civilised' and 'proper'. Then they will secretly watch gangster movies, listen to rap music etc, because they know that deep down the social conformist white man with an office job and a wife and 3 kids they idolise is just a coward.

>>25322509
It’s hilarious he couldn’t even get peabrain Rogan onboard with his book shilling because he had to defend Israel. The more he talks the more he makes it clear everything he says is just projection. Suicidal empathy to let in people with allegiances to other countries UNLESS IT’S ISRAEL. Suicidal empathy to have a bunch of religious nuts in your country, UNLESS IT’S JEWS. Suicidal empathy to give gibs to them, UNLESS IT’S ISRAEL. Free education and healthcare is a scam, but keep giving billions to Israel so they can have it.
Fucker had nothing but word games to play when it comes to ethnic cleansing and mass murder, starvation of kids. Imagine you’re Santa and you have a kid with a nuclear bomb. Well it’s pretty obvious now you have to support Israel I guess.

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>>25323756
aryan chuds don't watch heebish slop

>>25323756
Ok and?

>>25323756
>Then they will secretly watch gangster movies, listen to rap music etc, because they know that deep down the social conformist white man with an office job and a wife and 3 kids they idolise is just a coward.
Weird projection. People like you would in any other discussion claim listening to rap makes right wingers burst into flames, and it shows how they don't know "good music" (which is exclusively nigger mumble according to such an enlightened man).

Similarly with embracing whatever Hollywood slop is being put out, when it's so deliberately targeted toward your demographic that any mild curveball to that trend like the Taylor Sheridan slop on TV, is seen as some kind of affront to entertainment.

>>25323813
>Taylor Sheridan slop on TV, is seen as some kind of affront to entertainment.
It is by any measure. Even wokeslop has more artistic merit than watching boomers perform autofellatio.

>>25323773
These brave, heterodox truth tellers in the IDW sphere spent a decade saying
>There's a religion in the middle east that's so EXTREME and you'll get CANCELLED in the media if you criticize it. These are racial supremacist ZEALOTS who think non-members are CATTLE and should be killed. These people can't coexist with the West!!!
And never ever thought that anyone would look at Israel and come to the same conclusions about Jews. Partially because despite many of them being devoted Zionists almost none of them live in Israel because it's a shithole.

>>25322525
The right already has an equivalent intelligentsia to the left you're just more hostile to their views so you see it as stupider. Leftist intellectuals just exists to say "corporations bad" and call everything bigoted. It's really not a hard bar to meet.

>>25323855
You don't feel one iota of shame for posting that when you know it isn't true do you?

>>25323858
This kind of response could easily have come from a leftist intellectual. Just implies I'm lying and know it without saying anything. So absorbed in their own viewpoint they think it's impossible for me to believe leftist intellectualism is that rotted out. Well it is.

>>25322746
The theater is real. There is nothing today except the theater. We have a fucking celebrity reality TV show as the leader of the West. The dumbest thing people say today is that the internet has no impact on real life. On the contrary, all the demoralization slop and bot farms of Twitter are the things driving policy in America right now, so much so that Elon even worked in the government before being promptly humiliated when he didn't get what he wanted.

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>>25323335
>source: your gaping faggot asshole
Feel free to critically defend the idea that cutting taxes increases tax revenue. I'd like to see that shit.

It's either believed uncritically or right wingers are literally delusional and living in an alternate reality. Pick your poison.

Or are you going to claim it's not believed on the right despite the literal mountains of evidence across decades to that effect including numerous major public policy initiatives? That'd be impressive. It's rare that someone can talk out of their ass with their head shoved that far up it.

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>>25323336
You run all 3 branches of government. You have the wealthiest person in the world on your side. You have every Jew and Zionist upholding your power. And yet what are conservatives doing with it? Still bitching about how they're powerless and oppressed, still whining that they can't achieve anything, still putting all their effort into foreign wars in the Middle East. You people could have all money in the world, and you would still rather create AI slop for Indians and Nigerians on the Internet to clap at than put money towards actual fruitful artistic ventures that would make an impact on the world.

>>25323877
>You run all 3 branches of government.
This is how you know you're dealing with a retarded leftist bot. Talking point slop. I've read this exact sentence maybe more than a hundred times.

We've controlled the state 2 times in the last 5 presidencies. During this time you still had every single institution captured with faggot communists pushing your agenda as hard as possible. You still had an army of jobless troons swarming over anyone pushing back online, and social right-wing viewpoints while mainstream media blasted everyone with leftist propaganda. Yet you still say this stupid shit because some influencer said it and your retarded leftoid brain thought "durr dat's a good point" and now you all repeat it everywhere.

kill everyone who has strong opinions on burger politics

>>25323894
Keep crying, pussy. You don't care about power. Even when you guys have it, all you do is whine that you don't. Because you don't actually want power, you just want to LARP your fantasy of being the downtrodden peasant defecting from all the village idiots and feudal lords exploiting you. You want to reclaim the castle taken over by the barbarian hordes but you will never for a moment consider building a better castle or a better town square. No, you just prefer to sit on your throne while the castle walls continue to rot and wither. That's all that Trump and his cronies do. Your logic is that the leftist deep state still runs everything, which means that Trump does nothing about it with his power and prefers to do insider trading and suck Jewish cock

>>25323894
>>25323901
you see these two loud automatons? these are the people who have ruined every single corner of the internet for all time.

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>>25323773
I'm not going to read this book because the whole thesis is just absurd -- that the real thing harming the West is some abstract psychological and emotional force, and not the actual systems we have ingrained in every material sector that pushes for things like immigration, LGBT, slave morality etc. And that this is all coming from a Zionist Jew who puts every other "woke" person to shame when it comes to acting like a victim is just fucking insulting. All this guy does is complain about anti-Semitism online and his only interest in "saving" the West is because he needs to protect Israel.

That's how it works, huh Gad? Jews work for decades pushing all of this ideological cancer onto the world that erodes the fabric of Western society, then when things get bad you turn around and lecture the rest of us about how it's our fault and we should pray towards Jerusalem and be more like Israel.

>>25323901
>blablabla schizo bullshit blablabla
Sorry we couldn't completely transform all of society in two nonconsecutive terms while you still controlled everything else. Guess that means we didn't want to! Fucking retard.

No idea about this book but I'm someone with some interest in academic psychology.
As a psychologist he is legit and his kind of work actually survived replication.

>>25323814
I see you had no counter argument to my points.

>>25323817
>brave, heterodox truth tellers in the IDW sphere
Truth tellers like
Bret and Eric Weinstein, who claim to have coined it, jews.
Gad Saad (book above), lebanese jew.
Sam Harris, jew.
Jordan Peterson, spiritually jewish (according to himself).
Dave Rubin and Bari Weiss, guess what, jews.
Steven Pinker, Ben Shapiro. Yes you guessed it.
Even Jonathan Haidt was connected to IDW, and he's... a jew.

In fact the only people I can find that don't have a direct link are Rogan himself (who isn't really part of it but platformed the retards), Ayaan Hirsi Ali who just hated the muds who cut her clit off, and Douglas Murray who isn't jewish but does zionist propaganda non stop.

Seems like this set of brave controversial truth tellers were united by something other than their quest to fight the establishment and speak truth to power. It's just being a zionist neocon + saying muslims are evil and trannies are bad really.

>>25324027
It's all just rebranded neoconservatism, even MAGA now as evidenced with Trump's sudden interventionist turn. Instead of saying "we need to spread freedom and democracy to the brown hordes" they say "brown hordes are trying to destroy our freedom and democracy." It is not at all coincidental that these people got in power once Israel was attacked and there was an appetite for more wars in the Middle East after Oct 7.

>>25322525
you know its true because of the amount of replies

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>>25323855
The right-wing intelligentsia in question

>>25324056
klandance, tucker qatarlson, judge napolitano,

>>25324061
Candace Owens is the greatest example of the right-wing's inability to curate a strong cultural and intellectual sphere. She is a genuine parasite who has now turned on them and works for foreign governments like Russia, but they all promoted her in the first place solely because they thought "wow a black female conservative that makes us look good"

>>25324079
>Candace Owens is the greatest example of the right-wing's [...]ability to curate a strong cultural and intellectual sphere. She is a genuine [hero] who has now turned on [(((]them[)))] and works for [american] [peoples] [...]
ftfy
>but they all promoted her in the first place solely because they thought "wow a black female conservative that makes us look good"
so, we need to distinguish between charlies angel klandance and klandance having a day job with ben shapiro. klandance wasnt nick fuentes but a real woman and a real papist, her podcasting gig wasnt her life, which is why when shapiro dropped her she was able to continue

>>25324079
>Candace Owens is the greatest example of the right-wing's inability to curate a strong cultural and intellectual sphere.
Candace Owens wasn't recruited to curate a strong intellectual sphere. Beyond that, right wingers couldn't give a rat's ass about curating a strong intellectual sphere beyond think tanks.

Meanwhile, right wing attempts to curate a strong cultural sphere ultimately just boil down to throwing money at influencers actively espousing right wing talking points, or more often, willing to switch to right wing talking points for a check while astroturfing the shit out of anything with a right wing name attached and using social media to radicalize people through algorithm manipulation and bots. And on that front Candace worked fine until she found better money.

You're overlooking the fact that Candace isn't turning anyone to the left. It doesn't matter if she's a parasite as long as she served her purpose and there aren't left wing billionaires around to get her shilling for Bernie. There are an endless parade of grifters and endless piles of right wing cash that will continue to do the job Candace was doing until they all inevitably flame out after some major scandal or switch to Russian money or whatever.

The right wing doesn't fucking need a real intellectual or cultural sphere. Their voters are anti-intellectual sheep amused by jangling keys and their politicians exist to serve lobbyists. It would be pearls before swine.

Kill everyone itt

>>25324098
>klandance wasnt nick fuentes but a real woman and a real papist
If you knew literally the first thing about Candace Owens, you wouldn't be attaching "real" to her name. She's a professional marketer that originally espoused left wing politics.

>>25323817
>And never ever thought that anyone would look at Israel and come to the same conclusions about Jews.
Their hubris is truly amazing. You're seeing it right now in Albania where they're having pro-Hitler signs and protesting against Jared Kushner buying their private land. Like, what the fuck were these Jews even expecting? You were gonna lock down your influence in the West and try to conquer the Middle East and not face any resistance?

>>25324100
There's no intellectualism to be anti in modern leftist politics. You're all just lying retards spamming studies that don't replicate to bolster narratives that contradict observable reality. Just maggots feeding on the rotting corpse of institutions that used to have credibility.

>>25324056
Okay now post leftist intellectuals that are better. Peterson is kind of unhinged but probably genuinely smarter than every single leftist who hates him.

>>25322514
and that's why i won't read a word of it

>>25324132
>You're all just lying retards spamming studies that don't replicate to bolster narratives that contradict observable reality.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

Also
>We don't need to prove our bullshit because your evidence is fake
is the argument of a fucking buffoon.

The replication crisis is a real thing, but literally fuck all is stopping the right from producing studies disproving science you have a problem with if you're actually right about it being wrong.

Still waiting on the right proving climate change isn't real.

>>25324132
>I'm too fucking stupid to critically challenge the results of studies so I'll simply discount them for not conforming to my worldview
Not really beating the anti-intellectual allegations.

>>25324150
reddit had a board called black pill science filled with studies like that, you just don't hear about them because the guardian or whoever isn't going to write an article on them

>>25324150
>We manufactured a fake reality by producing bad evidence that doesn't prove anything and capturing every single media organizations for decades but you have to prove everything we said individually wrong while being blacklisted for doing so or you're just a dumb chud!

No I don't lol. Your worldview is just an intuition same as mine if the evidence is all fake.

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>>25324150

>>25324154
>reddit had a board called black pill science filled with studies like that
>A subreddit dedicated to understanding the realities of human social and sexual behavior.
>one of the top posts is about chickens finding humans hot
...

Ah yes, truly a challenge to accepted science.

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>>25324155
>if the evidence is all fake.
You don't see the problem with this qualifier, huh?

Also
>literally admitting your worldview is based on intuition
Jesus fucking Christ

>>25324153
>Our evidence producing machine wasn't actually a carefully calibrated tool trying to understand the world but actually just a massive propaganda center and interpreting reality through studies is basically impossible because you actually can't filter out all the bias and intuition involved.
>Still though you have to spend all your time disproving every single one individually or we're right.

I mean, kill yourself really.

>>25324164
>one of the top posts is about chickens finding humans hot

Make it a badly controlled study about how white people are giga racists and give this man ten million dollars and a spot on every news station.

>>25324156
I literally know exactly what this meme is bitching about, and, like always, you should have read the rest of the paragraph before and after the quote.

>>25324170
Intuition is what researchers use to produce the studies because they have to use it to decide what to control for and how much, how to interpret results, etc etc. If that wasn't the case how could the replication crisis happen in the first place? It would be simple as pie to produce a sheet of paper telling you objective reality.

So believing "science" is essentially giving your intuition away to some leftist faggot trying to produce a narrative and surprise surprise they were not careful and unbiased.

>>25324164
>We trained chickens to react to an average human female face but not to an average male face (or vice versa). In a subsequent test, the animals showed preferences for faces consistent with human sexual preferences (obtained from university students). This suggests that human preferences arise from general properties of nervous systems, rather than from face-specific adaptations. We discuss this result in the light of current debate on the meaning of sexual signals and suggest further tests of existing hypotheses about the origin of sexual preferences.

trust the science.

>>25324171
>Still though you have to spend all your time disproving every single one individually or we're right.
Yes. Fuck you. You act like only leftists are capable of conducting studies.

That's how fucking scientific debate works. Claims are made. Evidence is presented. Counterclaims and counterevidence are then presented. Gradually consensus is reached through critical weighing of each by the scientific community. Don't bitch about the consensus is you can't provide any counterevidence.

You're just too stupid, lazy, or delusional to defend your positions, so you cope about the left being just as shit as the right because they dared to challenge your worldviews.

Newsflash, fuckwit. The left actually believes what they're saying. They trust the evidence they have. They aren't anti-intellectual just cause you think intellectuals aren't real.

>>25324181
>Intuition is what researchers use to produce the studies because they have to use it to decide what to control for and how much, how to interpret results, etc etc. If that wasn't the case how could the replication crisis happen in the first place? It would be simple as pie to produce a sheet of paper telling you objective reality.
Really not beating the anti-intellectual allegations.

>>25324173
a 6 year old here who doesnt know what that meme means can push the ai button on mommys ipad and ask why daddy doesnt play with him any more and chatgpt can explain that tyrone loves him and mommy more than that deadbeat ever could

>>25324189
>This way of producing evidence doesn't map onto reality but produce more of it to argue with my nonevidence.

You're just too scared of the idea that many things will be unknowable or impossible to quantify. It HAS to be the case that studies can measure everything even though that has been proven completely false.

>>25324191
>Really not beating the anti-intellectual allegations.
Weird that sounds like a bit of a non-argument from a supposed intellectual. Sounds more like an attempt at rhetorical maneuvering. Oh well I must be imagining it after all you're the smart one.

>>25324150
>You thought it was wet? Wait until the Asian brown cloud hits town
>https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2002/aug/12/climatechange.science

where were u when the asian brown cloud hit?

>>25324171
>Make it a badly controlled study about how white people are giga racists and give this man ten million dollars and a spot on every news station.
Can you point to a study remotely comparable to this? Or show me a single social science researcher raking in 10s of millions per study?

Also, you're literally bitching about racial essentialism, lmao.

>>25324189
>The left actually believes what they're saying. They trust the evidence they have.
oh yeah that must be why the left is still pushing economic policies that fail every time

>>25324198
>This way of producing evidence doesn't map onto reality but produce more of it to argue with my nonevidence.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

>>25324200
>Weird that sounds like a bit of a non-argument from a supposed intellectual.
I wasn't making an argument. I was mocking you. My argument was about your beliefs. You continuing to talk has only supported my claims. Honestly, keep going.

>>25324208
>oh yeah that must be why the left is still pushing economic policies that fail every time
Ah yes, universal healthcare has truly failed everywhere it has been tried.

>>25324215
oh that's true, when mitt romney made healthcare universal in massachusetts it went pretty well, when u said leftist i didn't realize u meant mainstream republican, i had misunderstood.

>>25324212
Why do you think that wikipedia page is relevant? I'm arguing the inherent reliance on intuition in research makes the results useless and that the replication crisis proves this. Even things that do replicate are often used to draw wrong conclusions. I'm starting to get the feeling you are just extremely stupid and mad that I'm not trusting the science.

>I wasn't making an argument.
Yes, I know.

>>25324215
Picture is actually mixed because it's currently causing Canada a massive shortage of doctors and extremely long wait times. Hard to say how much of any result is the specific conditions of the country it's tried in. But also, you picked one of the strongest cases, how about:

>LET'S TRY RENT CONTROL AGAIN!
>LET'S TRY COMMUNISM AGAIN!
>HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE WHOOO!

>>25324228
also lets see how universal healthcare works in europe when they have to pay for their own defense

I just don't want to interact with non whites in any shape, form, or fashion. I think this is a reasonable desire.

>>25324220
>when mitt romney made healthcare universal in massachusetts
Massachusetts doesn't have universal healthcare.

>>25324225
>Why do you think that wikipedia page is relevant?
Because it is. That you don't understand why it is is a you problem. Anyway, keep going. It's nice not having to argue.

>>25324228
>LET'S TRY RENT CONTROL AGAIN!
Generally leftists argue for more public housing and zoning reform nowadays. Also busting the economic collusion going on in the renting industry.

Remind me again what the right wing solution is?

>HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE WHOOO!
Failures to increase the minimum wage are pretty directly tied to wages not keeping up with productivity and the greater economic stratification we've seen in recent decades. Or in other words we were doing better economically when we were doing that shit than now that we've stopped.

Remind me again what the right wing solution is?

>>25324228
>Picture is actually mixed because it's currently causing Canada a massive shortage of doctors and extremely long wait times
A shortage of doctors causes a shortage of doctors, not universal healthcare. Also wait times in the US are also fucked in part due to a shortage of doctors here too. Also Canada is hardly the only fucking country with universal healthcare.

>>25324311
>Massachusetts doesn't have universal healthcare.
>As of the most recent data from late 2025, 97.9% of Massachusetts residents reported having health insurance, maintaining the nation's lowest uninsured rate.
deal with it nerd

>>25324311
>Generally leftists argue for more public housing
oh so u guys are ready to try "the projects" again? we just got done tearing down all the ones from the 60s, but ok, maybe it will work this time!

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>>25324173

>>25323906
I see them.
And its so unironically over.

>>25324322
97.9% isn't 100%. Also, insurance isn't access to healthcare.

>>25324602
>insurance isn't access to healthcare.
that's true, good point. in america 100% of people have access to healthcare, but some don't pay the bill.

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explain how this wouldn't solve all problems in america.

>>25322509
Literal Mossad propaganda

>>25324606
>in america 100% of people have access to healthcare
Lmao, the last time I tried to see a specialist they flat out refused to see me without insurance of a kind they accepted, even when I offered to pay in advance out of pocket. The fuck we don't. We have access to an ER (assuming you don't live in one of the many poorfuck counties without even that).

>>25324733
Why the fuck would an ethnostate with millions of internally displaced refugees living under military occupation argue empathy is bad?

>>25324752
Empathy for brown people = bad
Empathy for Jews = good

>>25322716
woah, that physiognomy is remarkable. what a specimen, truly.

>>25323756
>"I'm scared of black people because they are violent and will beat me up". They praise white people for their "social conformity" and economic success.
Less scared and more disgust. That and the so-called un-tainted brown masses still shit up Europe in droves, so their assertion is correct that social conformity requires ethnic conformity. Especially since Europe is the ultimate litmus test of this "social mixing test" of letting in brown people and said brown people still chimping out and adopting Americano black victimization cards and the left just sings their chimping praises as legitimate.
>Then they will secretly watch gangster movies, listen to rap music etc,
KEK! Maybe Eminem when he was still relevant. Rap culture isn't even that popular anymore. And the only time I remember anyone praised gangster culture was the fucking Mafia, not hoodrats.

>>25322509
He's pro genocide

>>25326204
He literally worked for Mossad. Not even joking, he is an Israeli Zionist propagandist.

>>25322509
>Gad (((Saad)))
You know they're really intent on goyimcide when they start publishing books about how mercy, empathy, and compassion are bad. It's like the Nazis and every other militarist cult of violence that tells it's followers to steel themselves to commit atrocity

>>25323894
>>25323901
>>25323906
>The Castle
>Build a better towns square
>>25324570
>It's so over

"What is Jerusalem worth?"
"A kingdom of conscience, or nothing." For me, nothing is enough.

>>25322509
>prageru
Thinktank involved in a lot of openborder and pro-immigration policies
>musk
Shilled for cheap brown labor

>>25324150
>Still waiting on the right proving climate change isn't real.
Terrible example since there's an entire oil funded cottage industry of denialist science, so now you have to switch to "well that wasn't real science" and you sound like a retard. Any monied interest will have opposition funded researchers. Fucking tobacco had a line of scientists ready to spread FUD, and it's their model the oil companies are following as well.

> literally fuck all is stopping the right from producing studies disproving science
They wouldn't be "disproving science" they would be doing science. We all know there's real science and shit science, and a lot of the money topics are political topics and therefore produce nothing but shit science. Some topics that aren't actively political like food and drug studies, are producing shit science because of the amount of money in it.

"Right wing science" is really just the conservative strain of research from about the 50s-80s or so. Before the lefty hivemind really ruled in academia it was instead ruled by a bunch of gatekeeping snobs who were frequently "right" (whatever that really means on these timescales when people do 180° switches on their ideological positions every 10 years). They basically gave up, laid down and died without raising a next generation of the likeminded. They didn't protect their institutions. Nothing stopped them from doing so. The right largely embraced anti-intellectualism and are proud about it, which is pretty absurd given the influence they used to hold with media and institutions.

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>>25322525
There is a very strong, more economically left, philosophically right intellectual scene, it's just that it's almost entirely Catholic. But it has plenty of serious scholars and programs and educates a fair number of people.

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>>25322650
>Yarvin, Land
>Most serious right wing intellectuals.
Why don't you try actually reading some? If you stick within the online grifter space, no wonder you get grifters.

>>25322509
>Blub by dude who literally can't read

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>>25322716
>starting foreign wars in the Middle East for freedom and equality
>for freedom and equality
lol, lmao even.

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>>25326987
>>25327005
The focus on subsidiarity, formation, and local movements (the vibrant classical homeschooling movement would be a key example) is antithetical to the culture war and attention economy elements of contemporary political culture. Hardly anyone who thinks of themselves as a "right wing advocate" is listening to Autumn Kern about child formation for example (indeed, husbands in general have a real problem with checking out of formation because they think simply earning income to consume is the husbands "traditional" role, despite this being a wholly modern model based on the needs of servile factory worker schedules that kept men out of the household 70+ hours a week. By contrast, farmers took their sons to the field, Roman elites took their sons to work, tradesmen used sons in work from early ages, and pages were quite young).

The attention economy but seems particularly relevant to me, but the obsession with federal governance in the US as a proxy for the culture war seems relevant too. Consider organizations that still do significant formation. Dominican tertiaries are formed for half a decade or more. This is perhaps the difference between political ideology as a plug and play set of preferences and identity in a liberal context and Pierre Hadot's observation that in ancient and medieval philosophy (and most Eastern philosophy) philosophy is a "way of life" embedded in daily praxis.

This is why neoliberalism, and a general orientation towards "the free market" and "technology" is so much more definitive of the contemporary right, as opposed to any real traditionalism. Traditionalism is actively undermined by capitalism and consumerism. They are actually antithetical. This also explains the anti-intellectualism. That sort of Ayn Randian conservativism is strongly voluntarism and anti-teleological. There is no proper end for intellectual formation except for meeting the desires of the self. This is why it tends towards hyper-nominalist sophistry in both its left wing (e.g., Deleuze) and right wing forms (e.g., right Nietzcheans).

In general, only strongly traditionalist Christian circles have managed to transcend this dialectic, although prima facie one could ground these movements in a more pluralist common sense teleology, in the broader Western tradition (including the Platonists, Stoics, etc.), or in Islam or Neo-Confucianism, etc. But Evangelicalism's anthropology and politics have been so therapeutized and hollowed out that it's hard for it to get in here (and I say this as a former Evangelical); hence why Catholicism and Orthodoxy seem so outsized in those spaces. I think the Reformed tradition also faces some barriers in that Frame, Schaeffer, etc. have simply done some pretty bad, damaging intellectual history that has associated the classical tradition with being "unBiblical" (the catchphrase for anything one disagrees with).

Pic very much related as far as options that transcend traditional Christianity go.

>>25327072
So is it over?

>>25323877
>You have the wealthiest person in the world on your side.
same guy who lays off American workers to hire foreigners on visas to work for less fyi.

What a chud looking book.

>Gad Saad
>God Said
Name 1 right-wing intellectual worth reading in the big 26. Put forth your strongest champion.

>>25322509
a book that should be one page long. The term itself is self-explanatory. Everything is gay and lame these days.

Source? Source? Do you have source for this basic logic, obvious thing? Source? fuck you.

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>>25323877
>>25323901
Taking this opportunity to repost one of the all-time /lit/ bitchslaps

>>25327110
Fuentes

>>25327273
Kek

>>25322509
there are no important people

the concept of suicidal empathy is self explanitory imagine thinking you need to read or write a book about it.

>>25327273
It's really not. Simply having all three branches doesn't mean you get to plow over everything and the rest of the future is "won" for your side, it's temporary at best. Especially with checks and balances in place.
The long march through the institutions of education is the real biggest battleground moving forward, but your average rightest isn't willing to enter that snake-pit of a leftist hell-hole. College was bad enough the the sheer amount of minority ass-kissing and delusional professors that you were forced to nod your head with and write their shitty papers about how women are oppressed in modernity worse than the past.

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>>25323332
>dark money which insulates them from market selection pressures
I think that is on point.
Which also means the people working on it are not engaged or ideologically invested, but rather mouth breathers. Because the people a little brighter, with a little more sharp elbows and a little bit more conviction could most likely make it in Academia.

I don't think it was any different during the cold war, only that the funding was larger. But also the ecosystem around publishing and press was healthier, which meant even sycophant's could get a real job if they got invested despite starting out as a runner for a foreign propaganda press. .

>>25326980
>conservative strain of research from about the 50s-80s or so
That might be correct, but also these people have basically retired or hit dementia by this point.
And as always: There is never a guarantee that there will exist successors.

>>25322509
>"Of all of Gad's books, this one, are great."
What the hell is he on about?

>>25322613
>>25322602
I thought of Le camp de saints immediately as well

>>25324611
and now for the turner diaries

>>25322509
>google gad saad
>open wikipedia
>check early life
also being promoted by 'very important people' means it's likely not worth reading

>>25327071
Jewry and liberal internationalism are the same thing.

>>25322525
SPBP

It's hilarious how the right wing is just a bunch of sexless unlikable ogres who ruin everyone else's lives just because they can't get a gf and they hate trans girls for existing and Black people for doing better than them despite having it 1000x harder.

>>25327336
trvke

>>25327336
>ruin everyone else's lives
yeah it's the nazis that are making stores close down due to unpunished shoplifting and committing the majority of violent crime in the country right? Retarded faggot.

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>>25327088
It's not over because liberalism is tearing itself through its own contradictions. What comes next is anyone's guess. The point of the "Benedict Option" (originally from MacIntyre, not Dreher, who seems to have leaned into the degeneracy of Trumpism as soon as he could get fame and attention) is to secure communities that can resist the coming dark age. The model is more Asimov's Foundation than Maud'Dib's Jihad. If the end times do not come for another millennia, one must be prepared for the long night.

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>>25327310
They held all three branches twice with Trump and didn't hold one (1) vote on significant immigration reform. It's all temporizing smoke shows and more neoliberalism. Only Israel can be more important than the market.

Also, they don't just have the government, they have the overwhelming majority of the ultra wealthy elite and big business. The problem is that capitalism is simply inimical to traditional values and Christianity, and half their elite pool atheists anyhow. Trump is clearly not a Christian for instance, and is moreover a turbo degenerate. Even Tucker, sucking down Russian cash or propaganda (or both) was willing to call him the Anti-Christ lol. Yet a core base of the Evangelical movement, and indeed many other Christians to a lesser extent, seem to prefer Trump to Christ.

>>25327436
>secure communities that can resist the coming dark age.
And so it begins...
Godspeed anon,

>>25327444
What? Why would we need "immigration reform"? We need enforcement, deportations, and the end to mass legal immigration. Immigration reform just means amnesty and legalized mass immigration.

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>poltard vs generic shitlib slapfight #345623

>>25327455
So that changes are codified into law so that the next President (who will almost certainly be a Democrat) cannot just let in twice as many people to make up for any temporary drop off.

Also, the Trump administration wouldn't keep losing court cases on deportations if they actually changed the law instead of just acting against the law. But they know that. Reducing the cheap labor pool and pool of consumers for the billionaires was never their plan.

>>25322509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJAcgArkMgs

>>25322602
People like consuming...more recent social commentary.

>>25327469
as usual the /pol/tards are retarded and the generic shitlibs can't do much but slap

>>25322509
No, it's astroturfed jewish horseshit.
>Gad Saad says people who criticize Israel are a new type of virus on the planet, comparing anti-Zionism to a biological immune system that constantly mutates to maintain its host, which he says is antisemitism.

>He complains that every accusation from this “new virus” is a conspiracy theory, including the Great Replacement, COVID-19, global control, dual citizenship, and profiting from vaccines.
https://xcancel.com/ShadowofEzra/status/2057981235540971749

>>25328448
>everything that's true is a conspiracy theory
funny

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>>25327273
>Pretending the judicial branch hasn't been cancelling everything such as revoking birthright citizenship and making the US pay back all the tariffs, etc, etc.
The reason why intelligent right wingers seem quiet is because the left doesn't argue to get to the truth, they argue to support their personally favored beliefs at the expense of all else, even truth itself. They are clever with logic and use their cleverness to warp logic to support their favored side and there's just no need or reason to argue with someone who won't change their mind.

>>25322716
>Firstly, it’s completely impossible for a real right-wing intelligentsia and related cultural institutions to form because the right-wing today is entirely driven by online slop populism based in the United States, of which Gad Saad is a prominent member. Every conservative movement in the West is beholden to these English-language bot farms, rage-bait factories and “independent” media orgs propped up with Jewish and Arab money. Conservatives don’t have an interest in authentic intellectual or artistic momentum.
The same goes for the the left. All the modern left wingers care about today are a handful of social topics they import from the US, that's how we get Pride being celebrated all across the western world and they all use English terms while doing so. Most countries don't even have a name for the bullshit in their native tongue but just use English instead because it is purely imported.
It's also quite telling that, in this age of slop and lack of originality in everything from entertainment media to architecture, it is the "left", or more accurately "progressives", that are dominating. So if the shit they make today is the crème de la crème then that shows off the lack of skills the "progressive" art elites actually have.

>>25322525
I agree with you 100%

>>25323894
>>25327310
Very well said. Anyone who says '3 branches' literally has no idea what they are talking about. It bears little relation to a number of institutions that can and still do a lot of damage.

It is especially absurd when the majority is party based and not ideological, and you need 60 to do anything worthwhile anyway.

>>25322628
Not sure if bait or actually this much of a midwit, but think for a second what the right really means: it's essentially a reaction to a form of constructivism, i.e. the left. As a contemporary author put it, 'the right is the absence of the left'. As such, its very essence is critical - whether rationally or empirically. And this is before even starting with the marvels of leftist critical thought which lead to millions of deaths during peacetime, to mutilated children, or the 1000s of surplus of black deaths in the wake of 'Defund the Police', to merely scratch the surface.

>>25323894
>you still had every single institution captured with faggot communists
The Supreme Court has had a right majority for almost its entire existence. The largest news media company in the US is overtly right wing.

When right wingers complain about institutions, they almost exclusively mean academia.

>>25329212
You don't want power. You just want people to think you're cool and interesting. This is why you people get so upset over mass media portraying you as retards even though you control the US federal government, which is the most powerful entity in human history. Learn to win gracefully and stop sounding like a whiny bitch

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>>25327310
>long march through the institutions of education is the real biggest battleground moving forward, but your average rightest isn't willing to enter that snake-pit of a leftist hell-hole
the battle for the educational institutions was fought 100 years ago as evidenced by quantum mechanics being every leftists favorite new physics topic even though information theory just refuted calvinism. leftists are corruption and God doesnt send the israelites to preach to and decorrupt the canaanites He sends them to destroy the canaanite institutions

>>25327336
>>25327408
Holy projection

>>25322716
>right-wing today is entirely driven by online slop populism
Hi academic agent

>>25322720
>>25322874
>let's just tax the rich more what could go wrong
Lmao and leftists wonder why their retarded economic ideas always fail

>>25322650
Lmao why did this post trigger so many lefties

>>25322509
You only have to look at the deaths of Henry Nowak or Iryna Zarutska to see that the problem of the left is not one of boundless, ever spilling empathy. If anything, leftism is really a manifestation and enforcement of societal sociopathy, a desperate desire to criminalize natural passion. The best critique of them is still probably found in That Hideous Strength.

@grok gad saad early life

more like get sad amirite

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>>25322509
Suicidal empathy is just the result of allowing women to vote

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>>25329578
Modern leftism is basically just anti-whiteism

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>>25323894
>>25323877
Noooo! The blue button is the reason everything is shit! NOOOO THE RED BUTTON IS THE REASON! We’ve only been in charge HALF the time! But WE were only in charge HALF the time! Ah but YOU GUYS ruined everything so much we couldn’t fix it! But that’s just because YOU GUYS ruined it first so WE couldn’t fix it! Nuh uh you were firster! Nooo! YOU were the firstest!
>In unison:
THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR {MY SIDE} NEXT ELECTION OR ALL IS LOST
>It’s literally this easy to rule a country of retards.