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>effortlessly mogs all your favorite authors then fucks off to a life of butterflies and chess puzzles
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he’s not even better than a Bruno Schulz or a Nescio or a Queneau
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Nymphs
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Problem?
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Elevator literature. There's no meat, nothing. Just "style" that hides a puddle's depth.
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>>25324927
platitude. and ironically people are parroting nabokov when they say this, not understanding that style meant much more than the sound and cleverness of prose to him, meaning structure, character, all the unique observations and combinations necessary to create a unique world. if by meat you mean anything other than accustomed emotional triggers or a wholesale ideology (although there is much there to change someone's worldview) than he more than beats meat.
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I howled at Nabokov's "sounds somewhat like a Silesian ant" joke
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>>25324858
His work 100% does not read as effortless
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>>25324858
Joyce's arse farts and shits on him and the jew Nabokov himself admits it
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>>25325074
Yes when I read I'd prefer to read the first thing that came into the author's mind.
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>>25325010

In other, less complicated, intentionally vague words: Nabokov did not have the skill or disposition to tackle universal themes like true great literature is able to do.
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he doesn't mog bely and he would agree. cope.
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>>25325121
universal themes mean nothing. the things we share are very shallow. the depth comes from particularity. but if we are talking at that very shallow general empty book-cover level, all he wrote was about love and death.
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>>25326186
you sound american
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>>25325121

Saying a writer deals in “universal themes” often means: I don’t know how to describe what is actually happening on the page
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>>25326345
no wonder anime fans talk like that so often
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>>25326186
Yes, a particular expression of universal themes.
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His books are very pretty cages, with the birds dead inside.
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One major midwit trap is believing in the vulgar dichotomy between "universal themes" and nabokov's styled and amoral writing. In reality style is substance, and Lolita can just as easily be read as a straightforwardly moral story as a self-contained work of art.
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>>25324886
>Nescio
Who even reads Nescio aside from Dutch language teachers?
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>>25324858
I really enjoyed Lolita, quite liked Despair, but then was disappointed that I didn't enjoy Pnin and Pale Fire as much as I thought I would. With Lolita there was a mix of great style and substance but Pnin felt more hollow overall and, while I'm sure Pale Fire is a great egg to crack, I just couldn't be bothered to get invested as I was finding the reading experience to be dull
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>>25325121
>implying hebephilia isn't universal
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>>25326750
>didn't read Ada
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>>25326761
I intend to read it, Speak Memory, and to complete his short stories (I've read maybe eight or so). How does it compare to his other works?
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>>25326871
It's bursting at the seams with obscure references and clever writing, but there's also a story of love and tragedy in there
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>>25326871
Imo it's his magnum opus, absolutely stunning work.
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>>25326293
im asian desu

>>25326385
if the value of a work of art lay in that, than "i had a wife, she died" would be lolita's equal. the value comes from detail, structure, originality, how the characters are fleshed out to become more than representations of ideas into living, breathing, clothes wearing, vehicle driving, medically ailing people. of course they are in the style of the stylized worlds they exist in which in nabokov's case is not as obviously distinct from "realism" as, say, kafka's characters, which leads some to say things like >>25326525

>>25326871
speak memory is one of his best books and arguably the most emotional. the colette chapter alone made me tear up twice once when he remembers floss, once when she calls him a monkey.

for ada or ardor, the characters arent as interesting or defined (beyond many quirks that feel pasted on top) as much as his best are, the allusions don't feel as meaningful as in pale fire, and there are some boring dinner scenes. it's just not as uniformly bombastic as it needs to be. i feel similar about it as people who call nabokov stiff feel about his other works.
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>>25327347
doesnt change the fact you have the "mind" of a burger
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>>25324897
I love the pictures of him hunting butterflies, especially with his wife. It's nice to see authors doing activities other than writing.
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>>25327370
you're tedious and have nothing of value to add to this thread
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>>25324858
Reading Nabokov is like watching a porno where the hottest guy you've ever seen masturbates to himself in a gilded mirror. He's so fucking hot. He jerks himself off so well. But you're still watching someone masturbate to their own image in a fancy mirror.
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>>25327561
>burp gulp more snickers more coke belch
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>>25327570
if by masturbate you mean show off impressive writing, then sure. does he actually congratulate himself in his writing sometimes? yes he does. but the old kook deserves it desu.

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