no

>>25327642
It's true. The above is what people think the below is like and vice versa.

>>25327642
>Old lit: cuckoldry, literal cuckoldry in all those authors
>Rowling: Chad gets married and has a family, Chad's friends get married and have a family, Chad's rival also gets married and has a family, and they are all happy with their spouses
hmmm

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tolkienbros...not like this

>>25327642
I can't perceive of an ancient realm void of color, it's a deeply vivid era to me. Clean water, fresh air, brightly lit stars, wonder and magic. The loss of color comes from a newer time, our projection, or from a decadent era, or turmoil, such as the Justinian plague.

A mother bear protecting its cubs won't go to hell, even if she were mistaken on the level of threat and overreacted. Likewise, free people have always felt strongly, have always acted rashly.
This does not make them evil, nor morally grey. It can, at times, make them heartless and cruel, which in turn breeds malice and dysfunction in other places; the next generations. The rise of toxins comes from war and industry, and it has tainted even human genome, culminating in gene editing for narcissistic goals - covid 19 vaccinations.

The impediments of clinical framing and narration are not from a few fantasy authors, but overarching monsters of institutions, mind control and evil tribes - I can prove this.
As children, many of us survived all manner of ills, but we had our smiles. However, through hostile media and the surge of true evil in our world, this joy has become scarce and distant. Not non-existant.

It could be argued that we are reaching a point of division - of rejection and acceptance. Some gets integrated, some gets thrown to the winds for nature to handle. The older times were more free - though of course, Plato wasn't wrong then either, on the limits of human perception. The cave allegory describes human cruelty and control.

Things aren't so clear cut in reality, it isn't good vs evil. Id say that mentality is for childrens stories but even that should be above such simplistic thinking. Tolkein even realized it and kind of regretted it but was too balls deep in the story to suddenly make orcs morally grey

>>25327659
The City of Tuna bit is kinda funny imo guys

I cannot believe you rancid retards are replying to this

>>25327673
kys

>>25327673
I can.

>>25327659
why do nerds and manchildren care so much about lore and backstory? they will put up with the shittiest prose and tropes as long as there's a mountain of historical trivia to dig into

>>25327713
quote related is about star wars but it applies well to worldbuilding spec fic manchildren
>A lot of fans are basically fans of fandom itself. It's all about them. They have mastered the "Star Wars" or "Star Trek" universes or whatever, but their objects of veneration are useful mainly as a backdrop to their own devotion. Anyone who would camp out in a tent on the sidewalk for weeks in order to be first in line for a movie is more into camping on the sidewalk than movies. Extreme fandom may serve as a security blanket for the socially inept, who use its extreme structure as a substitute for social skills. If you are Luke Skywalker and she is Princess Leia, you already know what to say to each other, which is so much safer than having to ad-lib it. Your fannish obsession is your beard. If you know absolutely all the trivia about your cubbyhole of pop culture, it saves you from having to know anything about anything else. That's why it's excruciatingly boring to talk to such people: They're always asking you questions they know the answer to.

>>25327713
>>25327731
Why are we pretending we aren't on an anime image board?

>>25327659
Wasn't Silmarillion a collection of notes?

>>25327733
we're not pretending. most anime is part of the problem.

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>>25327731
>Anyone who would camp out in a tent on the sidewalk for weeks in order to be first in line for a movie is more into camping on the sidewalk than movies.
>If you are Luke Skywalker and she is Princess Leia, you already know what to say to each other, which is so much safer than having to ad-lib it.
>That's why it's excruciatingly boring to talk to such people: They're always asking you questions they know the answer to.

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>>25327733
>anime
If only they had the balls to have unique dialogue.

>>25327713
these types of "people" were tolerable when they knew their place, when they accepted the fact their hobbies were just expensive, glorified theme parks and action figures. the moment gamers and sci-fi/fantasy fans and anything adjacent started digging up their own asses with verbose youtube commentary essays pretending they had any academic or scholarly rigor and prestige, that was when they needed to get bullied again.

>>25327733
>You critique le society and yet

>>25327731
Devotion really is the keyword. Like a lot of secularized political movements, fandom is a sort of secular religion, but without any serious beliefs and a bigger focus on indulging in pseudo-worship. Anything they say or do is justified as long as one is "devoted" enough to the story, the lore, etc. They then like to pretend what they're doing is "objective" or "scientific" but it's really only about as valid as a science lab that is only equipped with microscopes and no other tools. Because that's the only thing nerds know how to do: look at increasingly smaller things and use that myopia as bragging rights.

>>25327794
Forgot to add that the psychology behind it on an individual level is actually quite basic, simplistic, even kinda boring. It gets more interesting (as well as much more annoying) when it reaches mass movements of fandoms. Why this phenomenon is so popular on collective levels rather than individual levels is the real question here.

>>25327770
lol

>>25327659
What deep and thoughtful critiques lol

>>25327770
I will never understand how such a shallow, hollow, infantilizing medium become so popular with anyone over the age of 14. At least anime gave us anime websites, the only good thing about them.

>>25327903
Autism mostly

>>25327733
The average /lit/ user would get their ass banned on any other website if they said half the stuff they said here. They are here cause they have no better option, not because some taiwanese scriptwriting hobby site magically produced the best literature discussion on the internet somehow.

>>25327917
No, I post what I used to post on twitter here (albeit with more "faggot"). This place is somehow less likely to have emotionally incontinent + stupid people.

>>25327642
Why refute this? It's correct

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>>25328035
I've actually read this, it's extremely unfunny.

>>25327642
Refure this *drops trousers, unleashes a torrent of chunky, steaming diarrhea into my palm, then furiously jerks my raw, circumcised nub with the putrid, slimy mess*

>>25327642
The Bible is in the top category.

>>25328044
Gimlet, son of Groin

>>25327642
Homer belong on the bottom. Fuck you retard.

>>25327642
Prescriptive vs descriptive philosophy.

Prescriptive philosophy is concerned with how people SHOULD act to live an ideal life. Prescriptive philosophy never works IRL because you can't make other people act in accordance to your beliefs and they will use your rules against you.

Descriptive philosophy tries to analyze how people DO act and think. It doesn't claim that there is one right way people should behave, only tries to explain their observed behavior

>>25327794
>How many angels can dance on a pinpoint

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>>25327642
There was no 'moral grayness' in Greek literature, saying that they're Evil is just Christians criticizing a different moral system.