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>reading a jap that isn't mishima or hurakami

Insisting on denying this is so bizarre yet so common. Also if you scratch the surface you'll find it's always religiously or otherwise emotionally motivated.

I dont get it, you're saying no one can do evil on purpose? As in, it's always justified (for the one doing it)?

>>25328664
Yes, basically.
I mean obviously one can do something that is in fact evil and do it on purpose, but all that means is that one failed to see it was evil.

>>25327949
Retroactively refuted by Wang Yangming (pbuh)

>>25329218
but Wang Yangming rejected akrasia, anon.
Nishida actually quotes him on that. I'd go as far as saying that Wang's position on the matter is basically the same as Aristotle's when he states that to have practical knowledge just means to act on it.

This means evil doesn't exist, only malevolent stupidity.

>>25327951
>reading japs at all

>>25329346
Yes. Of course it can't be consciously malevolent, and one can't be wilfully stupid, as that would just take us back to square one.

>>25327949
I drink every day despite having liver damage, so, refuted by addiction

>>25329357
i fuck with basho and nishitani

>>25329357
ive liked what ive read of mishima but this is a compelling point

>>25329403
The shitty thing about liver damage is that it makes pain killers ineffective. Otherwise it would be an ok way to go.

>>25327949
Out of curiosity, how would this position analyze the famous pear tree passage in Augustus's confessions?

>We carried off a huge load of pears, not to eat ourselves, but to dump out to the hogs, after barely tasting some of them ourselves. Doing this pleased us all the more because it was forbidden. Such was my heart, O God, such was my heart–which thou didst pity even in that bottomless pit. Behold, now let my heart confess to thee what it was seeking there, when I was being gratuitously wanton, having no inducement to evil but the evil itself. It was foul, and I loved it; I loved to perish, I loved mine own fault, not that for which I was faulty, but my fault itself. Foul soul, falling from Thy firmament to utter destruction; not seeking aught through the shame, but the shame itself!

Im neither religious nor philosophically committed to any Augustinian view but it seems like a fairly clear counter-example to me.

>>25329621
Retrospective perspectival change in what he loved about it rather than just admitting he was being a hedonistic and revelling in the joy of damaging others. The 'him' that did this did not think he was perishing, did not think what he was doing was truly a fault, etc. It's an ex post facto rationalization of the fact after all, doesn't seem too hard to explain.