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>>23801000
Ok, eating Mobile Suits is a bit much even for Crossbone

>>23801094
I think it's funny, plus some synthetic plastics and such can be edible in a real pinch. No different from cooking boot leather.

>>23801094
>Cross Born Gundam

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>>23801252
Yes that is correct.

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Fixed a few issues. In my defense it was supposed to be a quick sketch before bed

>>23801094
That sounds really nasty ngl

>>23801094
That sounds really tasty ngl

>>23801094
Mobile Meshi

>>23801094
I guess that's how much MS have become objects of myth to some people in later UC?

>>23801094
How many calories are in a Minovsky reactor?

>>23802716
they're not "mythical", they just incorporate some plastics that are vaguely edible after cooking

>>23801094
this is some fuckin horseshit dude

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I still love this

>>23801000
I want to see someone destroy Anaheim and the resulting collapse set the precedent for the Federation becoming CONSENT

>>23804553
That's not a real kit, is it?

>>23804963
A fucking variable flight MS that turns into a Ballerina with literal VSBR legs is still one of the sickest designs in Hasegawa's wild rides. It's right up there with the Fedora Freddy Kreuger MS that is the Desphys.

Honestly, I've seen lots of people shit on the Thoucus designs, but aside from the last one that's just all of them cobbled together and the one that's literally just a Dogu doll with guns and thrusters glued on to it, all of them are pretty nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMk6ty8Rjg
The fan animated Ghost PV shows that in motion and treated with the right amount of cool dynamism, they all look pretty nice.

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>>23805062
The Kirjarugu is unironically one of the coolest UC designs ever. If there are people that love wanking off the Gaia from Seed, then I'm allowed to love the suit that turns from a chonky suit that looks like its wearing an Executioner Hood, into a goddamn Lion.

>>23805069
god the jovian monoeye is the sexiest fucking thing

Why would mobile suits go back to having simpler one-screen monitor cockpits (as shown in G-Saviour) when 360 degree view cockpits have been the industry standard since the 0080s? The 360 degree view cockpits were in every mobile suit shown in Victory where the Federation is effectively falling apart. Technology/industry devolving due to numerous wars and crises argument doesn't make sense considering that humanity had enough industrial capacity to build a whole new Side, as well as the fact that the OYW, Operation Stardust and the Gryps Conflict were far more destructive on a larger scale than whatever was shown in later UC. If the situation that lead to the formation of CONSENT and others was so dire that it basically nuked technological progress to the point where people had to repurpose older suits, then by the time of the 220s there would have been far more unused 360 degree cockpit MSs than one monitor ones.

>>23805138
Economic and logistical breakdowns are much more devastating than wars, death or disaster for a civilization

See the Bronze Age Collapse

>>23805138
IIRC it's not because of loss of technology, it's because of lack of experience. Pilots from the old wars are long dead and the overwhelming bulk of modern day pilots wouldn't have any practical training with getting accustomed to a panoramic monitor. Even if it's overall better and easier to use once you're familiarized with it, regular screens are more immediately intuitive.

>>23805138
Some pencil pusher did some numbers and now we're 50 years backwards, because what are you gonna do about it? just like real life

The actual answer here is that G-saviour was built on a budget of dreams and shoestrings so they didn't really bother hammering out all the technical details.
In Crossbone Seerauber, which is furthest UC entry in the timeline short of G-saviour (or Gaia Gear) everyone was still using Panoramic Monitors as standard MS interface hardware. There's no reason why these things suddenly became obsolete or hard to make after a literal century of them being standard installations in mobile suits. If we ever get back to the G-saviour era, I imagine we'll retcons and see Panoramic Monitors again.

Wanna talk weird cockpit stuff that they pretend never happened? Whatever happened to those arm sphere control things we see in CCA? Something Rakers they're called. But in just about every other UC stuff we see after CCA, everyone is back to standard cockpit controls with sticks and switches and all that.

>>23805158
>The actual answer here [makes shit up]

And you don't know about arm rakers and when they were used. Fake fan.

>>23805158
Arm rakers were cool, but animation budgets of tv shows dont match CCA and sticks are much easier to draw

What really pisses me off is trying to shoehorn touchscreen phone design into the controls in Unicorn. That is going to date it harder than the analog controls of the rest of the series (which will always be the standard for military equipment)

>>23805161
>makes shit up
Show me actual in-universe documentation of people losing schematics of Panoramic Monitors then anon. No amount of economic hardships will destroy technology that is already widely implemented by that point.
It's like saying the 2008 economic crisis made LCD/Plasma/OLED monitors unable to be reproduced by 99% of the population and so everyone and technology everywhere had to readapt to using CRT monitors once again.

>>23805158
Pretty sure that the Xi from the Hathaway movies also still used Arm Rakers.

But jokes aside, it is silly to think that Panoramic Monitors apparently became obsolete/difficult technology in super late-UC. By UC 220, Panoramic Monitors is a 130+ year old piece of technology. Even considering harder times and logistics, it's a bit goofy to think that producing mobile suits is still feasible but apparently fancy monitors are too hard an ask?

>>23805168
Go find a source that Okawara didn't know what he was doing when working on G-Saviour mecha design.

>>23805158
>Whatever happened to those arm sphere control things we see in CCA?
It was harder to animate than the levers so they dropped the idea after CCA.

They came up with a lore reason though. In universe pilots suffered from losing their grip on the arm raker when the pilot was jolted pretty hard. The ones that survived the mishaps complained loudly to MS engineers so they reverted controls to joysticks and levers that could be gripped.

>>23805185
Does Okawara also go into depth about the internals/cockpit though?
Same reason you have people here saying that they just dropped Arm Rakers because they were a pain in the ass to draw/animate.
We don't see Panoramic Monitors in G-saviour, not because of some kind of logistical collapse, but because doing fancy shit like that in live action in a 1999 movie that already barely has a budget just isn't financially feasible.

>>23805158
Sunrise designed G-Saviours setting with the clear intent of a technological regression, what Hasegawa unilaterally pulled out of his ass decades later doesnt change that since Sunrise works always take precedence over manga

>>23805168
>2008 economic crisis
The collapse in between Victory and Dust was more akin to the fall of Western Rome, the Byzantines, or one of the many dynasties of Egypt or China. It was a total economic, political, and societal collapse into a dark age. It's like Lostek in Battletech

>>23805194
Well, yeah. It's all mechanical design. Literally his exact job.
Maybe you're right, but you could easily be making up so unless there's some kind interview or other material stating it the whole discussion is moot.

Regardless, the in-universe explanation for Arm Rakers being largely dropped as quickly as they were adopted is because while they do allow for quicker reactions as everything is literally at your fingertips it's also easier to get your arms hurt when attacked while holding onto them. Not a good trade for the vast majority so the setup only rarely pops up.

>>23805203
I imagine pilots could make a requisition for arm rakers in their suit if budget permits, but would be a specialty option and not standard

>>23805210
Maybe. We see it in use by high-end prototypes like Xi and even F90, but in some cases it's also kept around because the suit couldn't be retrofitted like some Sleeves units.

>>23805147
>>23805199
>technological regression
What kind of logistical and economic breakdown at some point between the 150s-220s causes a technological regression that undos the industry standard that's been unchanged for about 100 years but keeps the capability to build and maintain a whole new group of colonies?

>>23805289
consider watching Victory Gundam!

>>23805291
I watched it. Nothing in it points to a collapse of that scale. The Earth is basically a ghost town outside a handful of designated cities but most of humanity (including the Feddie government) is in space and on the Moon. The colonies that were shown in Victory didn't seem to have any serious issues aside from insane totalitarian governments. Infrastructure and engineering companies worked normally.

>>23805289
You realize the tech to build O'neill Cylinder colonies was available in the 1970s?
We also had electric cars in the 1920s
Videophones in the 40s

Technology is not a linear line. It goes back and forth and many factors contribute to it being adopted, lost or just dropped

Unrelated to Late UC, but it might interest my Titans brothers from /aoz/ that lurk here.
The final volume of Gundam Wearwolf was translated and uploaded to Mangadex (alongside some funny scanlator drama).

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>>23805359
oh neat. Nabbed it from Zeonic's patreon a while back through alternate means but it's good it's available now. I like it a lot and I'm a shameless sucker for happy endings like this
Also the biosensor fuckery is great, always cool to see that sort of stuff.
Incidentally with any luck /aoz/ could start up again at some point. Really just waiting for a new Reboot volume to drop, once we have that the thread should sustain itself for quite a while since it's been a while.

>>23805369
I haven't looked through it yet, but I think it's a volume release which got extra pages. At least the last chapter looks beefier, so you might want to check it.

>>23805359
Imagine if the MTL bitch gets him banned based on Dex's new rules. No more Gundam manga. Shit IDK where I'd even go if that did happen.

>>23805378
Literally nothing new in it, just restructured chapters since Ace fucked everything up when it was serialized.

>>23805707
Ah, I see. At least it's more readable now, I guess.

No idea where else to ask this, but are the Crossbone Vanguard translations of Ghost actually MTL or was that just Deacon being a cunt for no reason?

>>23805810
They are. I mean, if you can't tell from the highly stilted dialogue idk what else to tell you. It's same guys that tried middle fingering Zeonic with Valpurgis (and failing)... They roped in the Sequel TL dude but I think he's MTL too since Pulitzer has really dumb simple translation errors like Captain Amuro and Bunch... Which you very much get from Google and deepL (I read novels that way).

They all suck one way or another, even the famed Zeonic

>>23805810
They very obviously are not

>>23805903
Yes, helium bomb is quite the accurate translation when it should be hydro. Chinese scans are far superior. Dude on Reddit legit said he didn't know Japanese . People are too stupid to see when shit is wrong

>>23805967
troll

>>23805866
>errors like Captain Amuro and Bunch
these are literally correct dumbass

>>23801094
That pot is filled with liquid cancer.

>>23805970
Amuro is Lieutenant dumb fuck and Bunch is an obvious mistranslation of Banchi which is fucking address, not a bunch of colonies.

>>23806065
He was a captain in Zeta and CCA. And "Bunch" has also been used for this for longer than you've been alive.

>>23806076
He was a fucking lieutenant in both. Taii has always been translated as Lieutenant across the official releases. If the dumbfuck translator can't look that up easily enough. Well. Even the wiki is right.

Bunch hasnt been used since the Zeta VHS fansubs because they didn't know any better. You think Gundam Official called it the 30 Bunch Incident? Fuck no. Literally no one has used Bunch. Even origin uses Banchi which makes far more sense than Bunch

>>23806082
okay, you sure seem to think you know a lot about many things. i don't really care to play kindergarten teacher here.

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the early ST-Gan's color scheme is so fucking ass
I love it.

>>23805866
I hadn't even started reading them yet so I didn't see the stilted dialogue, was curious before I would bother starting (which I guess I wont, I'll just wait 20 years for Deacon to finish I guess)
And judging by the replies I'll trust you more than >>23805903

>>23806130
Bruh you're seriously trusting the sperg? Embarrassing.

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>>23805369
>Incidentally with any luck /aoz/ could start up again at some point.
I should hope so because we just got new gooning material

>>23801094
What, you think space industries are gonna use plastic derived from petroleum? Lol

>>23806708
No, but I would expect it to be treated with chemicals that render it toxic.
also I knew it was a great post to get this one rolling.

>>23806746
I mean, it's definitely not GREAT for you but it's better than starving to death

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Hasegawa-sensei's Crossbone Gundam Dust is wonderful because it transforms the despair of the Universal Century, which began with a colony drop, into hope through another colony drop!

>>23807940
This is kind of a shit drawing

>>23806746
it really wasn't since it just brings the crossbone hating trolls and fake fans out of the woodworks

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Crossbone can be traced back to Barzam
And Victory to Hazel

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Still think this concept was bitching

>>23808058
Crossbone and Victory both come from the same Cluster, while Barzam itself can be traced back to Hazel as mass-produced version of Hazel Hrair. What are you even talking about?

>>23808237
Barzam -> BR-GM -> BR-GM C2 -> BR-GM C2 Mahaus -> Crossbone Vanguard mobile suits -> Crossbone Gundam
As for Victory? Heh, let's say the truth is at its fingertips...

>>23808241
>BR-GM C2 Mahaus -> Crossbone Vanguard mobile suits
You're reading too much into it. You could just as well claim that they came from Zaku via Lehr Doga. Or from Gundam Alex via Tristan.
>Crossbone Vanguard mobile suits -> Crossbone Gundam
Bruh...

>>23807995
I like Crossbone overall and its overall storyline. I just think Hasegawa was the wrong guy for it because his writing and original characters always gravitate towards super robot or captain harlock. He snaps back to real robot, but will start to drift again.

It did give us funny shit like newtype chimps piloting chimp Zakus, a kid 1v1’ing a ms in a space gladiator arena and winning, the ball gundam story causing a chain of events that made Solomon fall and influencing the size of the Zeong (it was all probably a tall tale by that old pilot), the pirate themed ms and ships, the MS with a fedora, and now people eating mobile suits

>>23808263
I simply cannot respect this.

>>23808263
>because his writing and original characters always gravitate towards super robot or captain harlock
I feel like neither is particularly out of place for UC.

>>23808263
>a kid 1v1’ing a ms in a space gladiator arena and winning
I want a Gundamn spin-off about rank and file soliders running around mobile suit battlefield trying to survive while slowly destroying a bunch of mobile armors using gimmicks, environment and explosives.

>>23808292
And every time another of you dipshits asks for this very exact same thing I smile knowing that shit will NEVER happen
:D

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>>23808292
I gotchu

>>23808295
My uncle works at Kojima Productions and he said that it will be the next AU after Production I.G.'s

>>23808292
The closest so far is that one episode of MS Igloo 2 where some Feddies early in the war ran around on a jeep with a large mounted ATM luring Zaku II F types unaccustomed to Earth's gravity and environment into places with large pitfalls and when the Zaku slipped into one they'd nail the cockpit with the ATM.

I would like to see it too, though. You would think that late UC would have more examples of it due to the smaller MS sizes and various factions wanting to expend less resources

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>>23808359
it's actually the opposite, Zakus would dig a trench and bury themselves with dirt and camo nets to hide and then ambush the Feds

Does anyone have full RAWs for Crossbone DUST?

>>23808776
Look up 機動戦士クロスボーン・ガンダム DUST on Nyaa.
And if you somehow live in a shithole that can't torrent, they link sites with direct downloads on the page for the DUST torrent.

>>23808864
Thank you fellow anon!

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the yaoi that never was...

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>>23806385
looks so cool

>>23809062
Putting on that fucking eyepatch was on the RG kit was a goddamn nightmare.

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>>23806385
I can't tell if the weapon containers and the cannon hat and antenna are, like, WAY off or it's the perspective here or EW know something I don't. Any of these are likely honestly

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>>23809926
Altessein after pic related

>>23809926
they do look noticeably chubbier compared to the drawing now that you mention it
still buying some though

not the first time the Gunpla fucked around with the TR6 proportions either

So where are people reading cluster now?

>>23810922
I was going to say that a volume just dropped recently on Mangadex, but Zeonic was banned and purged there apparently after a bit of a drama. Oops.

>>23811006
>but Zeonic was banned and purged there apparently after a bit of a drama
lmao what the fuck is-

https://x.com/zeonicscans/status/2041247857731395631
>I run a Patreon and thus "violate" their "corporate" rules so I was blocked from uploading. According to their clearly cut and paste legalise, I'm "competing" with them

I fucking hate Deacon and love to laugh at his own jewery getting screwed over, but lmao at Mangadex for this too. For literal years now, a bunch of groups have been shilling their patreons, paypal, shitcoin wallets etc as a way for begging for money and they didn't mind. Now apparently its not allowed? I hate begging for donations/money, but its one of those things that I just learned to ignore and have more or less accepted as a permanent part of the scene.

Mangadex is really speedrunning its own destruction huh.

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>>23811075
Zeonic has a history of being an absolute arse with an ego the size of a colony but he does do good work and I can't really blame him for having a patreon, I'd do the same thing lol
And at least this mess looks to be firmly on mangadex's side which really shouldn't surprise anyone, the site has been killing itself or like a year if not much longer

>>23811075
baka all niggas just wanting a handout and a handjob nowadays

why can't they just do professional work in exchange for likes and prayers like before? learn to fill your stomach with thankyous instead of starbucks, the fucking state of things nowadays

>>23811077
My first experience with him was hearing him on a podcast and he never came off that way. Guess he sounds like a dick in text format more than anything


>>23811100
Are likes and prayers going to buy the material you get to take in for free? Put food on the table? Gundam media is hardly pirated anymore so even relying on free raws is impossible.

>>23811075
How's he getting screwed over? Now he has no incentive to post anywhere other than Patreon. It's us relying on him that get screwed. Dex went corporate that's why they're against it. Four groups that ask for stuff (not the shit coin variety) got nuked on there because of them. And now they've stopped scanlating entirely. So fuck Dex

>>23811075
Dex mods say he threw a tantrum and it was never about him having a Patreon but because he was hoarding chapters instead of posting there... So it was about his Patreon, but they won't say it was.

Rando mod is butthurt and is extending Zeonic an olive branch. Guess his purge hurt them somehow. Dunno who to believe on either side. Either Zeon is lying and wanted attention or dex is losing audience from lack of Gundamn

>>23811122
>Put food on the table?
Work a real fucking job then.

I'm not against people opening a "gib money pls :(" side hustle for their work, but I come from and participated in the era when people do fan projects like this for passion and love of the thing. Rather than beg for money, we redirected them to avenues where the original creators can reap the benefits instead of us.
If you gotta do it because you're one missed paycheck away from sucking dicks in a back alley, then do what you need I guess. But beggars will always be lesser in my eyes than people who do it for the love of the game and doesn't ask for anything.

>How's he getting screwed over?
For better or for worse, Dex offers exposure. It's the most popular hub for scanlations. You think the people that still upload on Dex do it because they love the site?

>>23811100
this is satire right
>>23811128
oh god it's not
Simple question: did you ever work on fan projects like that for nothing at all?

>>23811128
nigga the moment he works a real job I guarantee you people will bitch that it takes forever for chapters to come out

>>23811129
>did you ever work on fan projects like that for nothing at all?
Yes. All the people in our group did it for the love of the very thing. We pitched in using our own wallets to win an auction for some out of print book and to cover the importation fees too. We never did commissions, and just worked on the stuff we liked. Not once have we ever taken any money from our audience.
I have no plans on e-celeb fagging so I'm not gonna say which stuff we worked on. So feel free to hit me with the "proof or gtfo" hammer if you want, I don't have to prove shit.

And in any case, I already said that if you gotta beg for money, then do so if you're really in dire straits. But I will hold you in lesser opinion than those that don't.

>>23811137
ok schizo

>>23811129
Not that guy, but yes, I have. Have zoomers become so cucked that they cannot comprehend people working on something out of passion alone?

>>23811139
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>>23811124
>but because he was hoarding chapters instead of posting there
I mean, so? Far be it from to defend that faggot Zeonic, and I agree that Hoarding chapters is fucking gay, but uploaders having control of what actually gets uploaded is what makes an open community like Mangadex what it is.
Hoard some chapters in your own site/paywall? Then get fucked and sniped by some other group that wants to try their hand at that series. That's how the site works. There's no hard rule only one entity can handle a series. There's also plenty of other groups that have shameless kofi/patreon shilling stuck in their release on the Dex that remains unpurged. I'm not taking a side here because I think both Zeonic and Dex Mods are fags, but this reeks to me of far less a disagreement between site policies and more on a bitch fight between egotripping dipshits.

>>23811128
Don't think Zeonic needs the exposure. I'm an old fart and the dude has been around for a couple decades. Torrenting was his go-to back in the day, not some corporate manga hustler site. He did this shit for free and only started asking for money like maybe the last five years? Not gonna lie, we see way more from him with money rolling in so I'm not complaining. Generosity has its limits, that much is for sure. Plus, it's not like his shit doesn't end up freely available in the end, whether it's him or a Patreon leech. Doesn't suit you, that's fine. Don't read his material then, not that hard. I ignore the paycoin scammers and wait for pirates of the pirates. Simple.

>>23811137
It was probably a dogshit release no one cares about anyway. If you're expecting ghost felatio you're in the wrong place.

>>23811131
Dude already has one. And he's still plenty slow.

>>23811162
Near as I can tell someone who took a stab at a volume that Zeonic didn't release got their panties in a bunch when their MTL slop got jumped by Z dumping an entire volume and the gatekeeping and hoarding commentary was tossed around. Shits been pirated since last year on the usual Patreon sniper sites so dunno why they just didn't steal that and upload it. Zeonic says on the forum he had a request to take down three titles and then just killed everything for whatever other reason. Dunno how screwing us readers is an ego trip when he has to listen to us asking for titles.

GIVE ME ORIGINAL CROSSBONE BACK DEACON. I KNOW YOU FUCKING HATE IT

what a civil discussion

>>23811168
>If you're expecting ghost felatio you're in the wrong place.
Funny how you throw that insult at me when my entire platform is being of the crowd of fan projects that want as little obligation and interaction from the audience as possible. We release stuff we ourselves were interested in, audience reads it. Simple as. If you're so eager to talk about Ghost Blowjobs, just look at your own post because you're already deepthroating Deacon over there.

But shit's gotten way too off-topic already. If you're the type that needs to get the last word in, then give me the one last (You) that calls me a faggot and let this shit end here lest mods (if any of them actually still exist on /m/) purge the thread.

There is not a single time when Deacon is brought up on /m/ and the thread doesn't suddenly turn to shit. Some stuff just never changes.

>>23811183
Now you're blowing yourself. Fucking pathetic. Take that shit somewhere else. Also, lol at expecting mods here. You must be a lying newfag.

>>23811184
Always cracks me up how a random schmuck on the internet bugs people that badly. Y'all must be autistic as fuck and need to touch grass.

Op here, first thing I know checking out this thread after waking up is some argument about deacon. Cmon it’s not like he’s the only one scanning the chapters for cluster. Be civil folks

Will Hasegawa croak before he reaches the UC200s and has to deal with the GG/GS fiasco?

the last thread was much better...

>>23811259
He literally is the only fucking ENG scanlator for Cluster.

>>23811339
Is that why the wikia hasn’t been updated with new mobile suit profiles for cluster? It’s not like they’re just twiddling their thumbs just waiting for him to post the pictures, gundam ace can be used by any subscriber.

>>23811361
i suspect it's because the wikia just kinda sucks ass

>>23811137
I don't mind a begging page (hate the groups that put it on the real pages), but I will back you up here. I used to be a fansub encoder and the most my group ever begged for was like $40/mo to cover the XDCC and torrent seed boxes for our releases. I bought over the years like $800 in Bluray disks for that group and got nothing money wise back.

>>23811363
True, they DID kinda update it but only half ass replaced the half X with the actual F90 X type image.

>>23811137
it's not like costs of living and everything else have been skyrocketing for a few years now or anything lol

>>23811329
It didn’t start that way, it was mostly stable until someone brought up zeonic, lol they’ll simmer down eventually and get things back on track, we can salvage this thread

>>23811374
eh even before that it was vaguely unpleasant, but yes afterwards it just set off the usual trolls

>>23811077
What design is this? It's like a cross of the Mars F90 with the Physalis

>>23811498
it's just fanart of the X pack from before it was officially revealed

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(OC) MPS-0120 Drahez
U.C. 0130s Side 1: A low-cost mass-produced pirate/mercenary MS created by piecing together leaked MSA-0120 Draig blueprints from the UC Intra Deep Web by Konsnett Co.
The original's Mega Boost and Vaporizing Armor were significantly downgraded, and the entire right arm was designed as a fully integrated 150mm solid-shell long cannon to reduce production costs.

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>>23812150
>You got Gyobu'd

>>23812743
You are not very smart.

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>>23811498
Doujin for F90 which included some fan ideas for the mission packs before A-to-Z Project kicked off
They're pretty cool and it's funny how pretty much all of them are WILDLY different ideas compared to the official stuff.

>>23812150
My personal headcanon for this thing was that like the premium built Hardygun’s and F80 Gunraid’s, these were kept around well into late UC 140’s, maybe even a few having a run in with a few Zanscare Scouts

>>23811326
I don't know if they even intend to acknowledge G-Saviour or connect any of the current late UC plot to it. The only thing the Japanese ever really acknowledge of it are the suit designs and that's only because Okawara made them.

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only real ones know this fella

>>23813908
Over the shoulder cannons are god tier aesthetic

>>23813908
Sometimes having a toy company behind the series is a blessing.

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>>23814065
Micro Gundam was a preassembled toyline from the Gunpla division. Similar to HCM Pro.

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reminder we still have a few Draig units unaccounted for

>>23805138
Because G-Saviour fucking sucks and isn’t canon.

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>>23815849
Verethragna... how I yearn for the lineart of you!

>>23815870
It is though. Filmed sunrise works are all canon

>>23815892
/Animated/ Sunrise works are canon.

>>23815898
No, filmed sunrise works is what was explicitly stated last time this was brought up and has never been contradicted by bandai or sunrise since. Go look up Mark Simmons' comments from then

it's like seeing two autistic chipmunks argue
neither is making a lick of sense even to their kind but damn if they aren't confident

>>23815904
Check out the reddit peanut gallery here. Nothing to contribute but feels so desperate for validation from randos on the internet he cannot stop himself from making an empty pointless comment anyway in the hopes someone will think him clever or witty

>>23815913
weird way of describing yourself but if that's what gets you off

>>23815915
>umm i know you are but what am i
Another brilliant retort, straight from your 3rd grade education

>>23815918
you're boring

Are the F90 mangas necessary to watch F91 and then read Crossbones? (I only watched 0079, Zeta, ZZ, CCA and Unicorn)

>>23815928
not really but they all play together and enhance one another

>>23815901
It was never EXPLICITLY stated. The roundtable was always an informal sort of what if. Also, Producer Ogata said a decade ago that adherence to official history is no longer a priority. They let the creatives create. So instead of saying go look up Mark like a dumbass, maybe you should check in on current Sunrise commentary instead.

>>23815928
F90 is a standalone story and doesn't have much to do with F91 other than fleshing out the couple of years before the F91 movie.

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are there still no scans of the compiled MMM volume book? I know it's mostly nothing but it'd be good to have good quality lineart of F89 for example

>>23815928
>>23816038
Yeah, the main connection between F90 and F91 is the tech tree, there isn't actual plot going from F90 to F91.

>>23819015
Eh, there is actually some with the showing of the lead up of the Crossbone Vanguard/Cosmo Babylonia with both them secretly testing their suits and being outright named in Cluster.
That said it adds much less to F91 than just the first Crossbone manga does.

>>23818948
what's the book called?

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>>23819055
Mobile Machine Vol 1
Near as I can tell it hasn't been scanned and put up on the usual sites yet

On the usual sites no, but at least a guy on Weibo posted it complete (in 5 batches, if I recall) a few days after the book was published

>>23819667
Missing lots of pages. But the completed ones are up on the usual sites. Guess people are blind as fuck

I'm getting the impression we are talking about different "usual sites"

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Hmmm...

>>23819859
F-Alex?

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>>23819975
Definitely the inspiration for it.

>>23819975
It would make sense, seeing that around the time F-90 originally came out was around the same the time Bandai was attempting to redesign Gundam's mecha designs and the art style as a whole