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/Bale/ Beginner And Low Effort art thread - #74 Anonymous 03/16/26(Mon)05:00:42 No.43108393 [Reply]▶
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Welcome friends, ITT:
We make and share pony art, with absolutely no pressure to deliver anything that's technically good (besides having ponies in it, which makes it good by default)
Make something, share what you've done, and give feedback and motivation to help us all keep improving and creating!
This thread's focus is art, but beginner or low effort content of any kind is welcome here. If you do want to post about something else like music, gamedev, or crafts, though, just note that you may find better help and feedback posting it in the /create/ thread
Are you an experienced artist? Leave some tips, feedback, guides, or tutorials, they're well appreciated here!
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Small sketch of two of my oc's meeting.
>>43108514
Lmao, probably got some great tunes tho
>>43108707
>Think filly, you'll outlast every insignifigant fandom OC on this board! You'll live to see this site crumble to dust and BLOW AWAY!
>What will you have after 500 bumps?
Great reimagining of the scene anon
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This is my second animation. This stuff makes me appreciate all the professionals out there that make it look effortless. This was significantly more difficult for me than the last one I did. The real challenge was cleaning and coloring. I started to notice things I didn't like, but it was so late in the process I couldn't change them easily. But it doesn't look too bad when you don't look at it too closely.
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>>43109622
qt ocs
>>43110087
oh hell yeah this is some good shit brother
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walkig
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>>43110211
cheers
>>43110553
where is she going?
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>>43111156
My first thought was Trixie, and that would definitely explain the smugness
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>>43110096
I'm no Shining hater, but I can't deny I have a headcanon.
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>>43110124
Thanks!
>>43110553
Looks pretty good! I can imagine her wearing headphones listening to music
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>>43111253
You have a great concept! I agree the audio does not sound natural, but that's a limitation AI.
Keep going anon!
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I finally stopped being lazy and finished this piece of clop.
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>>43112700
Zoowee mama!!!
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daily pony: day 1
feedback very welcome, trying to improve as much and as fast as possible.
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>>43112700
i need her to teabag me with her titties
>>43114211
cute scoots, impressive for day 1
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>>43114211
Good job, scootaloo is my second favorite pony. She is so sassy.
Feedback: keep learning anatomy and proportions. The body is way too long and the legs too short. The mane is too thin and doesn't look to have any volume. I think the right eye is positioned incorrectly, and doesn't look to be attached to her head. Her left leg is bent in a manner that is anatomically impossible.
As for improving, keep practicing. Draw a lot. Sometimes just repeat a drawing again and again. Study your favorite artist, see how they draw and try to mimic. Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Also try to be more confident in your lines and avoid 'chicken-scratch' drawing. I struggle with this myself, but it'll make your drawings more intentional and build your skills. Using a mirror is also another good trick to see things that don't look right.
Don't let this discourage you. I hope you keep up on posting, I would love to see your progression :)
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Some random sketches of Sweetie Belle
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>>43108393
Mare my gf drew
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Maybe regrets exist to remind us not to give up, lest we carry another.
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>>43114981that animation looks very nice
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What am I doing wrong? Is her neck too long? Muzzle unaligned? Smth else?
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>>43114638
why not chicken scratch and chicken erase enough times until it's clean enough to be intentional
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Cleared the canvas at https://magma.com/invite/DXPPI_ZG
https://ponerpics.org/images/7464385
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psd: https://files.catbox.moe/kkvfd2.psd
Previous canvas: >>43097969
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>>43114762
Super cute, and sassy lill fill.
>>43114981
Another nice animation!I can't stop looking at the digitigrade dragon thigh-hips you gave Spike. Noice.
>>43115085
Looks pretty dang good to me!
I never feel like I get snoots right either. And the show's flash rigs usually only snapping the muzzles from full front to full-profile doesn't make things any easier. So I can't help there.
Maybe hinting that the chest and rib cage are starting around the connecting point of the front legs would help with the neck feeling too long?
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>>43114762
cute swib
>>43114981
nice work
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>>43115085
its a simple fix you just gotta give them a little more jaw, I'd also recommend tilting they eye slightly too. the eyes being straight up and down is more of a pone looking directly at you face forward thing and even then not completely. this is of course assuming you're taking inspo from the show.
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based nice work anon
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Just doing whatever felt right for the style of my oc lol \(◎o◎)/
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day 2 daily pony
I tried to avoid chicken scratch and improve my anatomy like >>43114638 and >>43114570
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feedback very welcome
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>>43116308
oops
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drew sedusa... I mean, mane-iac
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"Anon, you can't keep messing up my books like that."
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Saw a picture of a horse doing a cool pose, so I thought I'd recreate it.
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>>43117864
nah you can make very good progress doing daily draws and for the average person doing daily draws is going to be pushing the limits of what they can do on a consistent basis.
>>43118358 is right on the money. what matters more than anything else is how well you learn and then implement that knowledge.
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day 3 daily pony
forgot to upload, will upload day 4 later today
feedback very welcome :)
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>>43118358
Nobody is saying you MUST draw thousands of sketches a day. Just that if you have free time to draw, use it to draw, and don't think "well I did my draw of the day, time to relax now". Getting competent at drawing IS hard work and you MUST force yourself from time to time (especially forcing yourself to get out of your comfort zone).
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>>43120233
I agree with you generally, but in the very beginning I think it's better to take it slow until you naturally feel like pushing and doing more. Eventually, once you've got the habit of starting, it'll be automatic to go longer.
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>>43120441
I agree with that attitude actually. You shouldn't overdo it, especially since you won't see a lot of return on your investment in the beginning and that would just lead to disappointment. Better to start slow and do it for fun on the side and when you see steady improvement in like a year ramp up your training.
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second time drawin Moondancer
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day 4 daily pony: special edition: double pony
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>>43120520
Honestly, drawing cartoon horses is kinda therapeutic.
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Noi gets a letter. Tried to rely less on copy and paste. Very rough, don't plan to work on it anymore though.
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>>43120968
She's a good unicorn!
Rad to see her in the Trial of Harmony style!
>>43121552
Anon! You're not supposed to write such things to cute little fillies!
The bounciness of her appearance movement and her gasp are great! A very fun sequence.
>>43121628
Will Celestia also get to marry the girl she tutored and raised from foalhood?
>>43121835
Very cute surfer pony!
Big props for all your guide and volume lines. I wish I was as diligent when building my ponies.
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>They got him
>Shame, he was really good with the mares
>>43120968
I like the way you change the eye/iris. The legs seems a little bent, check out some sitting pony reffs since the hind legs can be tricky.
>>43120997
Double mare stare goes hard
>>43121552
very cute, good work on this.
>>43121628
I tihnk the bandana can go either right under the horn or a little bit behind it and further up on the head.
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>>43122456
derpi's jannies have a hate boner for random shit, so everyone ive seen talk about it doesnt recommend it. if you just wanna archive your work to let other people see it, no sense in going into the sharky waters when the others will work just as well
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>>43122456
derpi does have the largest audience by a mile, most of the alt boorus scrape from it so it saves time since you don't gotta manually upload your shit to the alt boorus. the only real downside to the altboorus is that the majority of them have minuscule communities, and the mods themselves can be just as autistic/corrupt as the derpi ones sometimes. looking specifically at ponybooru and the controversy one of the mods there got into a few years ago.
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generally speaking as long as you don't go out of your way to fuck with them or constantly fight with people they leave you be. political shit in general should be avoided on derpi regardless of what side you're on iit always starts shit in the comment section and gets downvoted to hell. so if you're one of those people who insists on being a political activist and constantly shoves politics into your pony shit, anywhere else that isn't derpi would be better for that kind of stuff.
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a perfectly fine and respectable choice, out of all the altboorus ponerpics is definitely the most active followed up by twibooru, twibooru doesn't have commenting though if that matters to you. ponybooru is dead as fuck as is manebooru. you also have the choice of pone.social if you want a twitter like experience without the cancer of using twitter and a small community as well if you decide you don't want to use any booru.
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>>43122526
I've seen a whole host of some very degenerative stuff they are willing to host, so I wonder where it is that derpibooru draws the line and gets controversy, unless it's like you said with political junk.
>>43122541
Same. I personally don't care to have an online presence so posting here is perfect for me.
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generally on derpi and most of the alt boorus almost all fetishes and content are allowed. derpi does not allow lolicon though while twibooru and ponerpics do. race of course is also something that should generally be avoided but doesn't generate as much ass blasting as you might think unless you have a particularly polarizing take or people get the wrong message from your art. generally you're allowed to post whatever but obviously since the derpi community is so large and diverse you can absolutely expect some blowback on anything remotely controversial. what really seems to matter the most is how you interact with people and the mods though, if you go around fighting with people and the mods constantly and just generally stirring shit up you can expect to get banned. to date I've never had any trouble with any of the mods, I keep my interactions on the site mostly positive or as neutral as possible and don't get into flame wars with people so take that as you will.
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Luna doesn't get Halloween, or whatever ponies call it.
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Drew derpy today
Does anyone have any tutorials on drawing hind legs? I always struggle with them, at times i try to hide them by using clever posing. But i think its about time i learn for once.
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>>43123889
hell yeah brother
the hind legs aren't bad at all they are a bit long but that's a perfectly fine stylistic choice. I'd personally do >picrel but that's just me. the neck looks short with your execution, but I can see the vision you were aiming for. even if I can't describe it right now because I'm drunk.
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I'd love to se what you could do with some clean up or even digitally. would be fun
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First time I actually sat down and drew something. Though I cheated by constantly looking back and forth between my drawing and images on my laptop.
>>43124071 qt
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>>43124071
I have this
I saved it along with a bunch of images that used to be in the Imgur link because I think they were getting rid off certain accounts or something
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I hope to work my way up to it on paper
I used to draw digitally but all the devices I used are now damaged or broken
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>>43124256
I usually draw mares with shorter necks than stallions, but my last drawing was def short cuz of the angle. Thank you for the redlines ill keep em in mind.
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Thank you!
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VERY qt drawings of BEST mare, great stuff anon
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>>43124310
Thanks for drawing my beautiful wife. I don't think that's cheating though, using references is kind of essential to learn to draw an existing character or body type or anything really that isn't conjured up on the spot.
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Drawn this fag again
Sorry
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>>43126396
If you are the same artist, you've improved a lot. Lineart looks clean and the shading looks good. Though I think you should do something different with the facial hair. It still looks odd. I think it's cause the mane and the beard merge seamlessly, but I'm not sure.
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Thanks for the recommendation and I'm still on the process of how to figure out how how to deal with the facial hair and mane. Maybe a big influence from anime where spikes are prominent and an easy way to make an unique silhouette and also that I have beard myself. Also by using something not so common in OCs or even canon ponies is hard to find a reference to copy or learn from. Also because I don't consider myself good looking or handsome at all so I like the idea of making him somehow weird and an outcast at first sight.
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>>43126441
I have never even attempted to draw a beard on a pony, so take what I have to say with a grain of salt. I don't even think I can describe to you why it looks strange to me, but I will try - hopefully other anon's will contribute.
I think it looks werid, to me at least, because the back of the mane connects directly with the beard. In reality, the beard doesn't connect with hair like that, and instead connects with the side of the ear. I looked through the boouru to find a beard similar to yours that I liked.
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>>43126477
Tried with two approaches, this is the first where doesn't connect to make some reduction of mane mass (also shrinked) the back hair.
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Second one where I tried to connect like you said but somehow I fucked up
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And another one for the sake of curiosity
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longer shy
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>>43127440
Okay you was one of the most helpful people for my character design I've come across so far and guess a lot of folks around were annoyed with the look of the beard so far but didn't want or couldn't explain why it looked bad. Think gonna go with the one with you quoted or something like that. Thanks!
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>>43127912
you got it all wrong dipshit. You were too retarded to read at one point in your life, and the correct effort brought you here.
The same goes for drawing in 3D, start with what you can mentally grasp. For example, if you draw two overlapping shapes, one of them is closer to the viewer than the other, that one overlaps. Very simple, but all projection is expanding on this idea.
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>>43127985
There are many tricks that create the illusion of understanding the form, but they are just tricks.
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>>43127787
I mean for this in no way to confront, contradict or condescend, but that blue figure is hard for me to read. Do the top and bottom connect or overlap? Is it supposed to be see through? The lighting seems all over the place, I can't make sense of it in my head. The other one looks fine, though.
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Some gradients practice
At least tried
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>>43128326
You could just admit you fucked up.
>>43127992
Nothing more annoying than an autist with a rudimentary understanding of the basics trying to put beginners down. Come back when you manage to contribute in the spirit of mutual improvement.
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>>43128710
Fucked up what? It's very important and anon said he can't do it. He can he's just lazy. Maybe you can do it too.
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>>43128795
mare based example for reference.
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posting for my gee ef because she got range banned for some reason
and yes she not xhe
i aint no faggot
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I need some fresh eyes on this, bale!
Is this snoot wierd!?
I never do proper construction and just add snoots by feel. And for some reason I always try for this halfway angle, that's in between the two flash ones in the show, so I have a hard time finding references.
Thus I draw snouts that I end up not being able to tell if they look okay or all wonky.
Any other aspects that need criticism are also welcome!
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Big lady with tetas! Good stuff!
Always impressed with the clear definition of your bodies!
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>>43129871
I'm a beginner myself, but I think it looks good. I would personally extend the chin to go tangent to the midline(the red line I drew), rather than curving it inward. Looks like a stallion so I made it more sharp. If it was a mare, I would make it more rounded.
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Tried doing a study, I think, guess I'm just not sure if I'm understanding the anatomy correctly or making false conclusions about how to apply references
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Another rough Noi animation. Tried animating on threes instead. And I
>>43129976
Looks good! the shapes look 3D, which shows you have a good understanding of form.
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>>43130006
Forgot to remove the circle.
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>>43129871
looks fine to me
>>43129976
seems like your homework has payed off and that you're on the right path
>>43130014
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Thanks. That soothes my worries about the snoot.
And >>43129946 advice about her chin are good. Helped me realize I had to round it more and change where the helmet's chin strap goes, to get it out of the way of the neck/chin merging point.
>>43129976
All those muscles look real good! All way above my knowledge, so I have little input.
Giving those two rounded, lowermost chest pectorals more love and attention like this is always a plus in my book.
Your bucking sketch with it's more balanced center of gravity is cool!
I'm sure AJ is throwing her whole weight like that cause she knows the tree will keep her up, and it's a more powerful line of motion for the animation, but yours is suited for both bucking trees and happy air kicksies as well!
>>43130014
Very nice!
Only thing I'd suggest it to maybe run more "o" mouth frames for the "gooning", to help one's mind sound it out a little easier. And if that makes her mouth look too static, you could try adding another O frame; maybe one where her mouth makes and even smaller o, for maximum "ooo".
Might be hard to fit though, since it looks like she shouts it out quite quickly.
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>>43130076
I'm glad I could give some advice that helped. Like I said, you already made i look really good as is. As for placing the snout, and just the general proportions of the face, I've also have had this issue. I was just winging it and while sometimes I could get results I liked, I couldn't be consistent with it, so a few days ago I tried developing some sort of method. I personally like to give ponies a check and chin, a little different from the show, because I think it makes their faces have more volume. I think I have figured out what I like. This is really just for me so there is a lot of crappy drawings as I practiced. But I highlighted the ones I like.
And thank you for your suggestions. I've never animated mouth movements so I wanted to see if I could be lazy and get away with how typical anime does it. But I'll try your suggestion.
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>>43130119
What a bunch of cuties!
That's some diligent stuff, anon. You should be proud. I really should stop being a lazy ass and do some training and studies at all.
Your animation does looks great as is! I'm just very biased towards looking for mouth flaps at the moment, since I just recently got done making another animation where I got carried away and matched my flaps with every single phoneme. My plan was for easier open/closed, semi-matched frames as well, but I fell into feature-creep, as usual.
It's over here if you wanna see: >>43118350 . And while the syncing turned out pretty good, that long sentence is actually only 5 different mouth shapes: "general open", "I/e", "o", one universal half-open tween frame and the closed one.
Also: the extra blinking in that one is entirely inspired by your cute "rocking anon-colt" gif.
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Thanks Anons, I'm enjoying studies for once its so much nicer now that I'm not afraid of them lol. Do you guys have any suggestion on I guess indicating the forms in line art? like I can visualise the bulge of the thighs and shoulders but when I have to go over with the line art how can I give my pone depth/volume without adding too many anatomical details?
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What is the best way to fix the pony chin/face in this? Is it okay or does the face look too circular or off?
I need to do more gesture faces...
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Oh damn, my /BALE/ mare from last year made it to an OP, nice. Here's some mares I made for a marecon project that I don't think I'll be able to fully finish in time
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What is this new captcha, holy shit
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>>43130641
face is perfect anon. If in doubt, make the muzzle features smaller, most people accidentally make them too big or too high up on the face giving them a chin, but this is perfect.
Technically show accurate pony heads are slightly oval shaped, longer in the vertical direction, but it's a stylistic thing. Might be what's bothering you though.
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None at the moment. All three are based on these minis I got from marefair and painted
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been awhile bale, i haven't drawn my wife in nearly a month and was jonesing bad.
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I liked it a lot to make it another, coloring it was fun
>>43122100
good idea maybe next time I will make it smaller, behind it doesn't really work to look like Alex
>>43122089
kek my goat isn't living that down for a couple of months at least
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"Come down and see the rest of the girls at Mare Fair."
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>>43130014
Posting here for completion sake. In the future, I'll probably post these elsewhere.
I colored and shaded it, and also tried using different line colors rather than black. Even added some stupid motion lines. I think the smear frames on her arms could use some work, but I'm done. Further feedback is always wanted.
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I tried your suggestion and I think that small change made the mouth movement look much better so thank you! And I have to say I feel pretty amazing that I inspired an aspect of yours :) I never heard of the character but I love her.
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Like the other anon said, face looks really good. Her right eye kinda looks like it's not on the face, so my only suggestions would be to play with the eyes further.
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hella qt love your shit you draw some of the cutest mares
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>>43132056
Wonderful!
The stretching frames make the fast movements so bouncy and fun!
And the warm shading and colored lines makes her look all soft and cute!
You even put soft blending shade down by the "table", and a soft blush as well. It looks very good, and I'm jealous cause I'm always afraid of adding soft blending to my gifs, since all the colors in the transitions tend to ramp up the file-size real quick. Maybe I just need to start using the dithering option. Or a better program than CSP.
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Incredibly cute! Would ask if she wants to be put together again.
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I think you're being thrown off by the helmet since it naturally and unavoidably throws off the profile of the head. Only real thing I could say is that you could maybe stand to make the helmet a tiny bit larger
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OH MY GOODNESS I FORGOT THE TAIL!
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Rushed to add something! Aw jeez, i mustve forgotten since i was so wrapped up in one of my rewatches while drawing that i didnt even notice.
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So I think I'm absolutely retarded like I tried to draw some other person oc for practice or whatever then I got tired after a while got to bed and started to doodle on the phone and made two or three things on the phone to relax a little and can't make much outside my own character. This one in particular mainly taking as reference from a screenshot of the show. I kneel to everyone here because you're pretty good and talented and doesn't suck as I do, hope not to bother anyone here
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>>43134307
No idea. Normally, I have an idea first then try to draw (and fail and move onto actual characters from the show), but I created her while trying out sketching method. I decided to keep her around to play with as I read the book and go through the exercises.
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>>43135274
Eldritch mare.
>>43136262
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>>43136510
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witness my creation, /bale/
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>>43133284
You should stop with colors for now and focus on shapes of the body, what pieces make up the legs/thighs/chest/thighs, use references, copy and trace other pieces with proportions you like until you learn them for yourself
Look at the resources at the top of the thread for poses to copy
Copying other pieces is the best way to learn as long as you are using good pieces with clear lines and not chicken scratch
Adding colors and backgrounds are things you should focus on once you get a good idea of shape and proportions, it will make you much happier once you start to see the improvement in your pieces yourself
Keep trying though anon you might be the only stallion artist I've seen consistently on bale, I'd be disappointed if you ever stopped after all the effort you've put forward
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>>43138915
Would you get mad if I'm too dumb to be able to put that in practice? I feel bad for letting down people who follows my work. Like I know that muh style is synonym with mediocrity but I am really slow.
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No one is too dumb to practice any form of art, It'll take effort but you can do it even if you are a sub 90 iq ape
You can go slow, just focusing on bodies, you can make a million headless bodies or body-less heads and you will improve as long as you keep drawing with a goal in mind and adjusting till you get it right
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Thanks. I'm really struggling with hair, though; specifically the tail.
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>>43140707
this might help. Elipses are the abstraction of a 2D circle viewed in perspective. It's made of two lines connected by curves, one short and one long.
The rule is that they are always true 90 degrees to each other and the difference in length determines the perspective tilt of the cirlce.
This can be used to model tubes by having the line of the center of the tube divded up into incriments seperated by elipses.
hopefully the pic is clear.
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>>43140986
Yeah, that cleared things up some. I'll try it next time. Thanks for the explanation and picture. This is old btw
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Draws I've made today in a marecon stream
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Here's one of the drawings I did during Marecon where I experimented with using an ink brush.
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i dont know pone enough to draw a whole body yet
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>I've always found it easier to do full body. I struggle with details so general shapes are pretty easy to do
i have trouble breaking things down to shapes, i kind of draw as I go which is a habit i should stop
>Your pinkie face is very good and has me a bit jealous
Thanks anon
Faces is all I'm good at lol
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>>43144478
>Faces is all I'm good at lol
Your faces are great, anon. Think you could grace us with a Moonbutt too?
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BTW, what apps do you guys use for digital? I've tried Krita, Paint Tool SAI, FireAlpaca, Photoshop, and Clip Studio. I think I liked clip and sai the best...
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I just try to draw eyes that look good rather than looking accurate. The best example I can think of atm is how Toriyama drew eyes in DBZ. They were anatomically incorrect purposely to look good from whatever perspective the panel was, that's mainly why the 3d games struggle to translate the style
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I'll try a side profile with her munching on the moon or something
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lunas my favorite alicorn so i had more fun with this one
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Based!
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copy your favorite artist and you will see massive gainz
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ok, went back and polished it with my own knowledge, it looks a bit more natural and less crooked now, although i have to use a different angle stance
also cleaned it up a bit because less is more i guess
this is why you don't just copy artists all willy nilly because you'll end up copying their mistakes as well, lesson learned
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posting for a fren since he got a 3 day for posting ponuts in the marecon thread
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>>43147479
If your first post wasn't sick already, this is a million times sicker!
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I like to picture this scene to keep myself motivated.
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>>43144491
I used krita myself, mainly cause it's free and it serves my simple purposes of drawing cute mares. But I am curious to try out Clip Studio Paint.
Procreate is also really good if you have an ipad. StylusX just released on windows, which is pretty close clone to procreate from what I have seen.
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>>43150357
I'm retarded.
observato studies
member /balef/ you can always fix it up later
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>>43149845
These are all really good. A whole lot of movement in all of them!
>Rarity's tail lifting, and that dock
Big unf
>>43150178
I'm lucky she's up on the moon and can't come punish me when I fail her command.
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RUMP!
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Nice! The classic, old-gen hoof grip!
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Me trying to do better on my expressions. I chose not to use the circle tool, cause it made it look stiff, and instead just freehanded it and made corrections as I saw. Would love feedback.
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Found it, her name is Blankette >>43013529
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>>43150615
not exactly sure what the scoot one is, looks like kind of annoyance or personal distaste
the bloom one is great
sweetie is good too
overall, when humans express emotions, they almost always turn their head in some way (turn away in disgust, turn up in shock, turn down in delight) that is one of the nuances that makes it feel real
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They do look good. But like the other anon said; Scoots expression does not quite match the intensity of the other girls.
I'm gonna sling the same advice I always do and suggest to raise the corners of the mouth.
The mind says that an upward lip line makes happy smiles, but the cheeks and corners of the mouth are involved in almost all powerful emotions; The negative ones as well.
A disgusted mouth is a bit closer to a snarl than just a frown. This usually also makes the cheeks involve the eyes, but you already did give Scootaloo a lower eye squint, so that's all good.
Please excuse big autist examples drawn with a mouse, since my drawing pad just went and killed it's usp port.
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Unfortunately you probably just have to learn how to use the system, drawing software is different but procreate has lots of useful tools that you just have to learn
Procreate has a circle tool that is helpful for drawing guides to pony proportions if you look at the bale tutorials
https://mares.horse/bale
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My first attempt at digital. I was learning new features and better methods up until i finished. Hopefully my next attempt is even better
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>>43152361
She's so happy! That mare is always so cute!
And great job on anon's hand! It looks good and correct! Fuck hands.
>>43152606
The first digital canvas is always a whirlwind of learning.
Nice going! I really like the clothes and saddlebags. Trying to align and fit clothing onto ponies is always daunting to me.
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Thanks
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Whirlwind of learning is a massive understatement. The tutorials seemed pretty straightforward but when i actually got into it it was something else entirely. There are a few features i still need to learn and a couple methods i want to try next time, especially with the clothes as i can do some interesting things with the layers if i put some more effort into learning how they work
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The cutie mark is supposed to be a take on a Phoenix. This was my inspiration
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Yeah, layers are the biggest power of digital for me.
Being able to mess with stuff without affecting anything else is very important to me. It's why I keep staying with Paint Tool SAI, since it seems to be the only damn program that properly stops colors and blending from bleeding across both layers and selections.
But it also makes me tend to end up with a million layers, all with spaghetti-code style co-dependency to one another. Blessing and a curse.
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It probably works exactly like it's supposed to but i just don't know how it works yet. The two functions are called mask and clip. I'll do some practice tonight and see if i can figure out how they work
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>>43154579
I'm going to hug her until she stops crying and nobody can stop me
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>>43154589
wholesome :)
>>43151503
Sorry, didn't see this until now. This is a great explanation! Again anon, I appreciate the time spent to illustrate. Even willing to do so with a mouse, that's dedication.
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>>43154185
That is a good idea.
I usually spend a lot of time staring at my own hand doing the pose over and over. But then I still have to actually understand what I'm looking at, and properly translate the shapes and construction back down onto the 2d image.
Maybe when tracing the actually correct hand shape and proportions, one can learn a bit of those proper shapes while physically drawing the correct lines as well?
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Brave of you to try. I want to do it and make some buildings but i will probably try some other time once i get a little more experience.
In personal news i experimented with different brushes and shading some more to get some texture and add dimension
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>>43156012
It sure is. That's why I always shy away from it, despite desperately needing and wanting to get better at it for a number of drawing projects, that instead lie on indefinite hold until I "somehow get better at it".
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Pretty lady! And a very good job on making such clean lines and stuff in that very limited program!
>>43156670
No, anon! You have so much to live for! There's even a cute mare right behind you!
What? That cute mare is the one telling you to do it?
Quick, anon! Do anything that cute ponies tell you to do!
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Is there a good mane styling guide ponies use? When you look at stallions like Soarin his mane goes pretty low down the back of his neck like a real mane and mares like Older Fluttershy seem to have her mane pretty low as well
When doing more up-do styles like ponytails its a little awkward I find to make them look right
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Also please critique
I tried to keeping it more mane like in the back without exposing too much of the back of her head, but feel it still looks a little funny and can't find too many good references for hairdos
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On this token i think im gonna try animation and throw my hand into it. I think if i just separate the character into different layers i can use the transform features to move the layers if the character between frames. I'll just have to think of the logistics of how to do this
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>>43157723
This works, but as I've learned it can make it look very robotic and is not good practice. It's harder but you'll get better results redrawing and flipping back and forth to make sure volume remains consistent.
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>>43156038
I think this is an amazing leap, you are already working with textures and shading, I'd recommend looking at Marc Brunet's free brushes and his tutorial on how to use them because he has some nice painting brush sets + texture brushes which I think would help you a lot here when it comes to shading and texturing pieces
This is a really good place to work off of, I hope to see more by you in the future
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I really like it when the mane properly springs from all of the neck, like a proper horse mane.
It makes adapting human hairstyles a bit trickier, and even some of the show manestyles either cheat or just obscure where the hair is coming from, making adhering to such a rule harder.
I'm bad with making manes overall, and I sometimes fail to make pony hair anchor from and run down the neck, despite very much preferring that be the case.
I like your Flutters and her mane a lot.
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one thing that will probably help is to remember that ponies have a TON of 'volume' in their manes. Like the shape of the hair springs out further from the shape of the skull than you might expect. So the top of her mane and the area behind it with the pony tail could use a bit more size. That's the only thing I can nitpick about the mane itself, it's good
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Well, this was the result. It was going well initially and it got easier after i had a few mouths i could turn on and off to animate the mouth movements but i was getting tired going between frames and such. I have a massive respect for animators now
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I don't think I'm going to be trying that again any time soon. Drawing this pony gave me alot of insight on how to draw ponies and i want to get some more practice and get even better with my still shots
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Cleared the canvas at https://magma.com/invite/DXPPI_ZG
https://ponerpics.org/images/7473319
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>>43162321
For me, art style is a combination of imagining, observing, habits and gimmicks
The easiest way to develop a style is to copy someone else's, that's when your observation skill comes into play
Maybe you have a favorite artist that had a particularly nice style and it stuck with you, and you wanted to borrow a few elements - some pieces to complete the puzzle that is your art style, then by all means, do it. Artists steal from each other all the time
Observing goes a long way - just by looking at art that you like will build your visual bank like crazy, and by having a large bank filled with key details will make it easier for you to encorporate them into your own art style
Habits - artists will always have some kind of familiarity in their art. I would say this is interchagable with gimmicks, since one is a deliberate act and the other is a natural occurance
Art style doesn't just correlate with how the final product looks like, it consists of a lot of smaller details that the common audience wouldn't bother noticing
For instance, an artist may use a particular set of brushes and will only use those brushes only, because they're the most comfortable to use for them (habit), and yet, the usage of those brushes comes from the fact that the artist may have been exposed with art that utilizes those tools, and wishes to learn how to draw as such (gimmick)
The artist may have a certain way of drawing something, like emphasis on some details that may or may not be very blatant in the artwork itself (gimmick), maybe they have a certain way of shading and coloring that they use in their artwork, etc etc. It's a very common observation on fetish and porn artists, that's why they have a such a recognizable style (not particularly related to appealingness)
Another way of noticing a sense of development to your art style is recognition - when someone realizes who you are just by art alone, even if you have little to no presence online
Although this requires some social engineering, exposing yourself to the internet general and the sacrifice of some of your privacy. It's hard to erase *everything* from the internet when you started posting, so tread with caution
If I was missing the point and the question asked how *to yourself* does it mean to develop an artstyle? Then I guess is to accept what your art is currently looking like and to work from there
Some people don't like how their own art looks like and ended up most of the time experimenting with different methods to better optimize it - while it is good to be flexible and trying out the best ways of fixing or improving what you have, it's also advisable to be comfortable with your own art style and not be too critical about it
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In the end, developing an art style comes to a loop of observing and copying, think of it as making a doll out of parts that you took from something or someone else, and no dolls will ever look the same to each other
Art style is everything you're most comfortable with sketching, drawing, rendering or painting; it's something that grows with you as you improve so there is no rush.
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I found a tutorial on using alphalock, it made shading an absolute breeze. The guy mentioned alot of people use the multiply layer function for shading but i didn't pay too much attention to that
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Yeah layer modes are weird. I think it's probably good practice to just pick colors yourself and do it manually.
Basically multiply layers just darken the layer below with the color tone of what you're using. Screen layers also work for the inverse of that, so you can do toned lighting. Then just change layer opacity for intensity. I use both of these when I'm not going for a whole-hog painted style.
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Hey, fellas! Turns out if you put off your routine doodling for a good few weeks, you get rusty!
What a wild new discovery, eh? Wish I knew that earlier.
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I’ve been drawing for around 1 year, been improving mainly with guides from the OP and by watching references. But nowadays I think my workflow sucks and make my drawings look basic. I would love to see the process of some one who knows what they are doing, is there any place to see the detailed process of sketching, doing lineart color and rendering? Like a full video or a sequence of the long process of some one drawing a pony from start to finish? Hell, even a YouTube channel of some one drawing humans from start to finish would help
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Thank you, anon this is exactly what I was talking about. I would really appreciate if some one knew where I can find more of this.
I’ve done some research myself and found this playlist https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc_OtavZ0F_GilW0i47R1U37lQuCiUqbc &ra=m most of the videos there are extremely old. I know some artist patreons upload videos with the full process but i cant access to those, sadly.
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>>43166542
you can still learn from drawing fetish shit anon. it requires the same skills, knowledge, and techniques as any other art. say what you will about the style itself there's nothing wrong with having grievances with a style. you cannot force people to draw in a way you like though no matter how hard you try. like wise no one can nor will stop you from liking and drawing in a show like style if you so choose, so you're equally as free to draw how you wish as well.
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it doesn't require the same skills, although it mostly overlaps. There is a skill in capturing the beauty of the mundane, in bringing ordinary beauty out in such a way that anybody can see it, which fetish stuff paves over. Fetishism and love for the ordinary are contradictory elements. Although it can't hurt to be versed in both.
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>>43166982
You're definitely not wrong. Wholesome art will be judged far more on its merits than fetish art however there is still a place for merit in fetish art as a couple scripples indicating a pony with a giant plot will still rightfully de dismissed as low effort and/or low quality even if it's not to the same degree
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>>43166982
>shape, form, lighting, composition, line work, proportions, and color theory somehow isn't interchangeable because reasons.
with fetishistic work the proportions are exaggerated which of course is the intent, so I'll be magnanimous and concede the point that the proportions of a fetishistic artist can be off compared to a more mundane artist in terms of mundane work. success with fetishistic work requires equal skill to the mundane artist in terms of the technical skills outlined above, you can see this simply through mere observation. nearly all of the most successful and positively renowned artists who primarily do fetish shit have at least two and usually more of the aforementioned skills.
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How do you guys sit down a grind practice points? I just want to sit and sketch and sketch so I can improve and take an approach of not hooking on a single drawing, but I sit there and I can't think about anything, do you have some kind of method to get quick ideas and start grinding sketches to get better?
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>>43127787
Any advice for 2.5D modeling? I know I can try applying some artistic filters in GIMP with images of 3D models, but I am wondering whether I should edit my existing models’ textures if I want more of a 2D look from them or whether I can get away with applying filters after the fact.
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>>43167728
Generally speaking what you practice the most your gonna get better at quicker to an extent. If you sketch constantly you'll get really good at sketching and maybe even improve your gesture drawing. But your other skills will suffer a bit from lack of use and refinement. Over all though it depends entirely on your goals, if you just want to sketch then have at it. I'd recommend doing gesture sketches using references from your favorite artists and then refining the ones you like the most to a finished state. It will allow you to cover the majority of your skill bases. For inspiration not much I can really say beyond fuck around and find out really, what works for one person might be dogshit for you and vice versa.
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>>43168442
In my opinion, it would probably be better to start with humans. Lot more resources on figure drawing and teaching. Plus, many of those skills will translate into drawing anything else, ponies for instance. But you have to do what motivates you.
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>>43168442
Sorry I misread your question. I like watching this guys videos.
https://www.youtube.com/@Chommang
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>>43169563
Kek, well, ponies are easy it didn't take long for me to get comfortable with ponies especially with the wealth of reference material humans though, there are so many different styles and ways to draw them that it's honestly quite intimidating. I attempted to draw a human and ended up hating it. I'll probably post what i have so far for feedback but having a guide might help. It would also be better if i could decide on a style i like and look at references in said style
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>>43167728
practical suggestion: set a timer for a shorter interval, like 5-15 minutes, and aim to sketch one figure within that time. Also if you're learning don't get self-conscious about problems; be truly loose, don't let the possibility of an audience pressure you during your practice time, let mistakes exist and learn from them.
The other anon is right that short sketch practice is only sketch practice. But when you're starting, the skill you're building up isn't "sketching" or "painting", it's fundamentals. Your ability to see where you are in the process, identify what needs to be fixed, and the knowledge of how to fix it efficiently. To learn fundamentals it's better just to draw a lot than to try to carry drawings all the way through to "the end". Without fundamentals, 99% of the work of "finishing" something is just fixing mistakes you didn't notice - hence the urge to throw everything away and start again. Practicing with a timer is kind of just speeding up that process so you can learn faster.
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Thanks, I'll try doing this, and I'm currently in this dilemma after seeing the stuff I've done in the past, so my process is usually this
>have an idea
>sketch sketch sketch until it looks good enough
>cleaning that sketch and turning it into good looking lines and fix the mess
>have a closed lineart so I can color it easily with wand
>get excited, start shading, adding details, reflections, and trying to render the whole thing
>finish the drawing and feeling I could've done better specially in how the pony/mane/eyes shape/lineweight/expression looks
The thing is, I get obsessed with a single drawing for like a week and keep adding and adding but I end up feeling like I'm being a jack of all trades, and I'm basically over working over a lineart that could look so much better, I've been thinking I should improve in how I draw my ponies, starting from the sketch, but if I keep going my usual route I will lose too much time with everything else and not focus in the current weaknesses I have. I want to improve, I see lots of draw fags doing simple shit that looks so good, they don't just shade and render a single drawing for a week, they draw a bunch of ponies and you can see how cling less to their drawings gives them more practice in drawing other ponies, other poses and other perspectives.
However, whenever I just want to practice and do simple drawings to experiment and improve I don't know what to do and suddenly I end up drawing even worse for some reason.long ass post, I know, I wanted to convert my autistic struggles into words
Picture is me trying to draw dash with different expressions and trying to do it in less than 3 minutes, notice how inconsistent it is, I particularly feel weird about my snouts, eyes and eyelashes
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>>43168442
learning gesture drawing will get the feeling started, then construction, then a hybrid, bing bang boom. obviously its a bit more involved, and if youve only drawn ponies itll be a big adjustment, but its good to expand your drawing horizons. the more you draw, the better you (should) get, and the more fun it is
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>>43170252
this anon knows what its all about
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>>43170072
I see, I'd say focus your effort on your faces, proportions, and anatomy for now. biting off more than you can chew will definitely make you feel bad about yourself, focus on one step at a time and practice when you can. also remember a lot of artists that make shitting out casual good looking sketches look as easy as breathing have been drawing for years even decades in some cases and it may take you a similar amount of time to reach a similar level.
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>>43170072
this is good! especially bottom right. The trick is not to laser focus on any particular practice workflow, because every side-skill you learn gives you better perspective on your goals. Since you're not confident with your faces maybe you should take some time to do a careful study of pony faces - then take what you learn and try to apply it during your faster practice sketches.
For some actionable advice, I would say that you share the problem most people have with pony muzzles: you make them a bit too bulky, so they take up too much of the face, and that reduces the cute factor.
A rule of thumb I use is that the top line of the muzzle marks the lower third of the head-sphere. This only applies with neutral faces really, expressions can change the rules a lot when it comes to cartoony style.
Also IMO try to avoid imagining/constructing muzzles as a boxy shape (unless you're drawing stallions) - the boxy look is weird even when your rendering skill is good, see PussPuss. I personally construct with a 'clown nose' sphere where the muzzle should go and then use the nostrils to mark the 'outer corners' - from all angles, there is a curved plane visible on the muzzle so this tends to work better.
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p.s. I also notice that you kinda err on the small side with eyes, and the skull in general. that's another thing that reduces the cute factor and can throw off the look; you can chalk it up as a downstream problem of making muzzles too big but it's another thing to put on your mental troubleshooting checklist.
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For some reason I always make the thighs too short.
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>>43164096
We gotta put her down.
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Twi not amused.
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>>43170360
The answer appears to have been in my face the entire time. I just need some practice drawing anon and go from there. I can always add features here and there to make him a real human
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>>43163160
HOLY MOLY. This might be your juiciest yet. Don't listen to that other faggot. I love your more horsey style.
>>43171582
I love how lanky you made anon. You have a great cartoony style.
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>>43171582
KEK, that's a good one anon
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Anyone else find themselves completely forgetting to draw the wings on a pegasus sometimes?
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>>43172181
Many thanks, also.
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>>43173019
Everypony wants to draw a pegasus up until they have to do wings...
I do think folded wings are really fun to draw, though. Something about the shape.
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What could they possibly have seen?
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More for the Silly pack
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>>43169752
First human attempt. I definitely need to work on faces. Muzzles are easy to draw and shape the face around but human face is something different entirely
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>>43172706
Both wings and horns often tend to get lost, yes.
>>43173256
Anon's meat.
And they are vegetarians. Mostly.
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Blurry mare I made at work. I realistically heart my little ponies
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>>43170942
This is actually really helpful anon, love u, I've been trying to understand why my snouts look the way they look, in my finished drawings I manage to edit them and fix some of the bulky looking snout, but you pointed that out better, constructing the snout with cubes has been a constant since I started drawing and seeing my past drawings confirm that my snouts usually over complicate things.
I've noticed how many drawings don't even connect the lower jaw and overall mouth lines with the neck, my sketches always try to connect the chin with the neck, I've seen some artist who probably do the head shape and neck and then draw the mouth under de eyes not touching the chin in 3/4 perspectives and it looks great too, you can see I was aiming for that in the first drawing from left to right, I just abandoned the idea after the results lmao.
I'll try to focus more in face relations and not avoid box snouts and will post the results.
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>autistically draw pony on whiteboard
>picrel
I really wish Twilight could help me study…
Zachary Rich’s stickmares are cute anyway, just a circle, two curves, and 5 lines.
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>>43173547
Appul wholesome, AB will probably be a champ at it soon enough.
>>43173652
The human head has a ton of planes that takes quite a long time to learn, if you want you could look at an asaro head to get a rough idea on how the face structure tends too look like.
>>43174414
Mare so good the camera became teary-eyed
>>43174833
Lmao this is great
>>43175330
Twilight is with us in spirit anon, she helps us nurture that inquisitive mind
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>>43175409
This thing. I guess that can be helpful for a more realistic face
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>>43175671
Lovely background, perspective, contrast and colors one display here ! And the "reflected in a window" concept is great!
>>43175691
Linky often sends her reflection to do her crimes for her, such as stealing jewelry.
She thinks it will somehow keep ponies form accusing her, since "Somepony else did it".
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>open vector art program for first time in 11 years
>draw pony art for the first time
>it's fetish art for your fanfic
It feels wrong but oh well. I'd forgotten how much I love doing vector art over raster.I had to completely redraw the hat because I screwed up the perspective on the original. I still think the perspective's off on some stuff, but I just want to get this story out already.
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>>43174833
looks at cake with voracious desire
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Drew something for the Moon mission.
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Drawn at work.
I will soon draw Rarity in the "eastern" dress in digital, because it is a nice purple dress.
Sorry for .jpg, the .png was too large.
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fren is having issues posting
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>>43177118
I like the level of control you have. You draw a line and you can then edit it if you don't like the way it looks, rather than having to undo/redo a dozen times to get it to look right. Don't like the color? Just swap it to another. Need a new line thickness? Just change it.
Then there's the scalability. I originally had an 800x800 canvas because it's just a thumbnail cover art so who cares. Would have been screwed once it turned into a full fetish art thing.
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>>43177967
Very nice, anon!
These are some very pretty dresses! The one in the top left particularly caught my eye, and looks doubly stylish together with Rarity's confident pose!
And your ability to illustrate the shape of these long-train dresses is very impressive! Like the extra big one in the bottom right shows off the shape it is draping very well, despite being only lightly shaded.
I find drawing clothes on ponies tricky, and adapting new outfits onto them doubly so. So this is all very impressive to me!
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>>43177723
I tried a mouth, but I think I messed up on where the ears go and the face proportions
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Cleared the canvas at https://magma.com/invite/DXPPI_ZG
https://ponerpics.org/images/7482723
png: https://u.pone.rs/sqbstrry.png
psd: https://u.pone.rs/nlybpjvq.psd
Previous canvas: >>43159305
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>>43178753
not bad anon, need bigger eyes and to position the snoot a little lower like >>43170942 said. I think the right ear is pm okay, the left ear is too small; also remember they are positioned more towards the back of the skull, not the middle, so they're usually partially obscured by the mane when viewed from the front..
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