Typical libtard scum, they'd pimp out their own children for a zesty hot take/adoration

>>130558853
Not when you grew up in a shithole white trash logging town it wasn't.

Being pissed off at the world is a common sentiment to have when you're a teenager, possibly up to mid 20s.
Now people have genuine things to be pissed off about like not being able to own a home or the cost of living essentials

The boomer hate meme and internet mythology that sat the 80s and 90s were peak is complete garbage. The economy was fucked. Offshoring of industry really ramped up in the 1970s... electronics, steel, cars.... Lots of people lost their jobs and houses. NW Washington was hit pretty hard. I'm genX. My parents were poor and things were shit.
https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/socal-connected/the-rise-of-homelessness-in-the-1980s
https://www.nytimes.com/1980/05/05/archives/slump-in-timber-industry-threatens-to-upset-boom-in-northwest.html

>>130559123
It's ironic, people are talking about offshoring now for the white collar/tech jobs but it already hit the podunk towns/small cities decades ago.
My state used to grow cotton/tobacco/whatever else farming but now all that has dried up and it's just a quiet town but with more drugs, poverty and all mixed with boomers just waiting to die. Truly a sad sight.

I just laugh, my grandfather saw the writing on the wall and everyone laughed because it hadn't hit them yet.

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ratthew get the fuck in here

>>130559163
I'm glad you had a good grandfather, anon.
There was a huge hit to farming, too. Lots of family farms went away and are now owned by mega international corporations. Zoomies and Millenials probably never heard of Farm Aid. Yeah, huge "stars" had a benefit concert for the independent farmers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_Aid

>>130559123
if you were to eulogize the 50s (generally held as a great era of middle class prosperity) people would point out that there were two recessions, so meh

>>130559280
Family farming didn't really exist after the Civil War, the Gilded Age started off the era of factory farming. The 1980s would be at least 110 years too late for that.

>>130559467
Also Farm Aid was 100% totally a DNC fundraising op.

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>>130558853
Living in a nice clean white suburb was seen as the worst thing on earth back in the 90s. Whiteys were having an existential crisis because their lives were too perfect, without real challenges, and lack of diversity.

Nirvana is the kind of band you think you'll overdose on but that never actually ends up happening and they're more like a rogue snack occasionally

>>130558853
they started in the 80s thougheverbeit. that was the Reagan/Bush era. punks hate that era.

>>130559467
I just got two books on the Gilded Age recently.

>>130559467
the Gilded Age had tons of unrest in the farm belt caused by indebted farmers and whatnot. it was a major political factor in that era.

>>130559541
Gen X grew up in the shitty broken down 70s that's why they sounded angsty. Boomers grew up in the optimistic postwar years when anything seemed possible.

>>130559515
>>130560206
The 80s had prosperity for the Sun Belt states as they had Cold War defense industries plus the booming tech industry. Life was good if you lived in California, Texas, Florida, etc but the Northeast and Midwest were still pretty depressed and didn't really recover from the 70s. All that heartland rock, Farm Aid whatever shit was totally DNC fundraising whatever because Democrats were specifically focusing their campaign efforts on that part of the country that didn't benefit from Reagan era prosperity so much.

>>130559541
except Aberdeen is kind a shithole

>>130560303
and then after they get back in power Clinton immediately signs NAFTA into law

His dad used to punch him in Mcdonalds

>>130558853
They came from abject poverty and were social outcasts
The fuck you want them to sing about, partying with hookers and cocaine in LA while driving in a limo?

>>130560649
>The fuck you want them to sing about, partying with hookers and cocaine in LA while driving in a limo?
This kind of music is also why nobody likes Drake.

>>130560661
lots of people like drake. Normies

Good times produced dour music and bad times produced upbeat music. This is not an original observation

>>130560672
>lots of people like drake
Yes and they're all from a certain subcontinent that...

>>130560681
Nah, try >>130560271

>>130560681
Then why is music so shit now

>>130560661
>>130560625
Drake is 100% totally a product of that brand of 1993 to present R&B which is about being as intentionally bland and wallpaper-ish as possible.

>>130560804
did i mention he can't sing or play an instrument?

>>130558853
Nah deindustrialization amd housing squeeze was already happening. Clinton accelerated it, the arguement is the policies should drive prices of consumer goods down. The golden 90s was mostly for service workers who did benefit from the changes, if briefly, hence the Mallrats and clerks era of movies glorifying directionless slacker jobs.

>>130559467
Funny, one side of my family is still farming and ranching in NE Montana after over 125 years.
I have been making my existence for over a decade in privately owned small ag.
You are playing stupid labeling games, are ill informed or are possibly trolling. You should excuse yourself from the discussion while adults are talking.

>>130559515
Possibly. It pointed out the problem to the parts of the country that would have known nothing about what was going on in "flyover country." Reagan had been sucking jew cock in California for decades, so when they installed him in the whitehouse he was too busy fucking over everyone else to serve his kosher masters. Left and right are all owned by the same people.

>be 10/10 brad pit lookalike
>blow your brains out

>>130561402
>Possibly. It pointed out the problem to the parts of the country that would have known nothing about what was going on in "flyover country."
Ok but then >>130560386.

>>130562095
so i said both parties are the same. reading comprehension.

>>130560303
this is all over 80s media btw, the "cool" jobs were being a computer nerd or plotting mutually assured destruction

>>130562196
And in the 70s apparently it was being a criminal or porn star.

>>130558853
No, they were not. Obviously.

>>130558853
90s angst was entirely performative. It was the greatest era to live and grow up in.

>>130558853
>90s were great, no?
you better be from a retarded foreign country with this ", no?" bullshit

>>130559467
Outrageous.

I was playing games on my Amiga500, had my driver license, my mom's Pontiac 6000 and was listening to music on cassettes. Saw Megadeath Rust in Peace open for and Judas Priest Painkiller in 1990.

The real problem is they didnt know what to do with us... so we mostly ended up in the student tier jobs, below the women and the providers jobs. That's where the anger started cause the rest was awsome.

Gen X had the issue of being far out numbered by boomers and boomers had monopolized all the good jobs, and were only middle aged and not close to retirement as the 90s began, whereas Millenials came of as as they were starting to retire.

>>130563391
>90s angst was entirely performative. It was the greatest era to live and grow up in.

Society had gotten too soft and middle class by the 90s to still make good music. The 60s were prosperous but had a lot of social tension that was ready to blow up especially with stuff like the civil rights movement.

>>130563827
>The 60s were prosperous but had a lot of social tension that was ready to blow up especially with stuff like the civil rights movement.
that was also when air pollution was still really bad so people were kind of half-insane

>>130563807
When I started to work for the gov, I understood that the boomers choose to work with their wives instead of with theirs sons... Women joining the workforce had a price, gen X men paid it. I remember seeing my boss walk around with 2 secretaries like he was a rock star.. meanwhile most of them couldnt use a computer including the secretaries. I knew we were fucked back then.

>>130563807
basically the Silent Generation on repeat where they were sandwiched between two much larger generations and lacked a clear identity of their own or as many opportunities

>>130559123
>>130559163
Gonna have to agree. I’m also gen x, only slightly older than cobain. I grew up in Little Rock Arkansas. It was complete shit In the 80s and 90s. Than I’d go visit my friends who could afford college, all of them went to Austin or Athens or somewhere in the Carolinas. Things seemed nice there. Now I will say this (and I’d imagine other posters close to my age will agree) I actually feel a lot more fondly about that era in retrospect. Most things were objectively better, even in the shitty ghetto I lived in. I have more fondness for 80s and 90s pop culture , but also for the sense of social cohesion that still existed. I think people are very isolated now.

btw the boomers should have lost their jobs in the 90s to the gen Xs but it didnt happen.
thats why everything went to shit by then end of the 90s... the boomers, with 10 years left to their pension, just cruised like retards to retirement. 2001, the remaining boomers have no opposition and mess with the system etc etc we still have major boomer actors... ffs they just wont quit. pretty sure they'll be hated for centuries to come.

zoomers are almost sickeningly polite and wimpy compared to 80s teens. back then it was quite normal to drink/smoke/do drugs, teen pregnancy, get into fights, run away from home, get arrested etc.

>>130564047
Zoomers grew up during lockdowns and were told to stay inside during critical periods of growing up... can you blame them?

>>130563807
They also entered middle age where they got passed by millennials because more of them had college degrees

>>130564047
You weren't demonized for being a young white male back then. Nonwhite zoomers still do the shit you wish "they" did.

drugs really shut down most of their areas, but drugs are kewl, so nirvana would rather whine about the man instead of naming what the actual problem was because that was lame and conservative

>>130558853
90s were great. They were angsty about the 80s.

>>130560649
Kurt was lower middle class at absolute worst and grew up in fucking Aberdeen, not some ghetto in Detroit or Chicago. "Suffering" for him was getting called a fag at school.

>>130558917
fpbp

>>130559123
The thing with a lot of Xers is that the '90s was this weird sort of period. Communism had been defeated so they're coming of age in the "end of history" and it sort of became a feeling like this is it? Everything was leading to sterile, bland conformity so you could sit around in your dull beige/white office all day to come home to your cookie cutter suburban home in a hollow and vacuous existence that you sleepwalk through until death while aspiring for nothing?

And yeah you combine that with the economic situation of the Bush Sr. era and the social instability that came from it. I think two books people should read (or listen to) are The '90s by Chuck Klosterman if you want a good idea of what the general Gen X cultural mood of the time period was and When the Clock Broke by Jonathan Ganz for a more hyperfocus on the political situation of during the time of the Bush Sr. presidency and the rise of stuff like political talk radio, the militia movement, the L.A. riots and policing and all that.

>>130563964
I think there was still a feeling of aspiration and that you could get out of your situation and into a better one through your work and such. The 2008 recession relly destroyed that and no matter how much they saved the financial system in a broad and abstract sense, it seemingly irreversibly broke the financial reality for actual people. Millennials basically had our future stolen from us with that.

>>130560303
>Life was good if you lived in Texas, Florida

life was terrible in Florida if you went to a desegregated public school system

>>130563964
> I grew up in Little Rock Arkansas

my ex-fiance was from Jacksonville, Arkansas. I will never do better than her and I ruined a chance at a happy life by moving on.

>>130565571
>Everything was leading to sterile, bland conformity so you could sit around in your dull beige/white office all day to come home to your cookie cutter suburban home in a hollow and vacuous existence that you sleepwalk through until death while aspiring for nothing?
that was the 50s-60s though, except nobody actually rebelled against it this time around

>>130560649
>abject poverty
lol this retard thinks kurt was a blind willie johnson type figure

>>130558917
this.

>>130561402
shut up chud

>>130563807
Same thing is going to happen to zoomers. We vastly outnumber them and they will live squarely under our thumbs for the vast majority of their lives.

>>130558853

Kurt arguably had a terrible life as is, but can you imagine if he just didn't have any musical talent either? He probably still died at 27, but they had a morning meeting at Burger King about it and that was it.

>>130565571
it was totally a 90s thing. boomer parents were obsessed with the idea that you had to go to college and this and that to make a living and "you can't get a job in a factory with a 9th grade education and make a living like your grandfather did." this idea that we didn't need to produce anything and could be a nation of web designers and porn actors has since been discredited, but it was widely pushed back then.

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>>130565194
Is picrel how the middle class lived in the USA in the 70s?
It's probably been cleaned up in this pic, so its actual state must have been messier than that

>>130571462
His dad was a car mechanic, his mom was a waitress.
And they divorced.
And he lived in some small shack in a logging village until he got kicked out after dropping out of high school
I'd say he didn't have a comfortable life or at least he paid for the comfort of not going to school and job with living in a state of mostly poverty, just not homeless level of poverty