I can't wait for single pilot 121 ops. No more flying with retards anymore.

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was driving by instruments last night, we're gonna re-open tomorrow at noon

>>2066386
Surely you guys didnt takeoff in that weather?

>>2066413
we had a emirates a380 take off at 1am and a ups that tried right before and went back to gate (winds too strong + inconsistent)

airport reopened at 2pm its still a iced over mess

>>2066294
Too bad you have no jet time

>>2066530
Poast type ratings or seethe

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What are some non aviation jobs you can get if you dont have a degree but have at least a private cert
>t. tradefag wanting white collar work

>>2066595
You could probably get into a data analyst position doing FOQA monitoring, but I don't know what the job market there is like.

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Any A&P's here?

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>...h-help us
what do you guys think about the final report on the death of TN Flygirl and her father?

ATC audio:
>youtube.com/watch?v=6xZgzGQacy0

lots of vids online now from all your favorite youtubers too.

>>2066294
You think pilots will ever be 100% automated? Thinking about starting flight training soon

>>2066874
why are you replying to the retarded ragebaitfaggot?
is there something wrong with your head?
you know pilots arent supposed to be mentally challenged, right?
better dont start the flight training, otherwise you may end up like TNFlygirl

>>2066875
Idk I have a friend whose a pilot and he’s retarded, figure it couldn’t be that hard to automate

>>2066876
Don't start the training, planes will all fly by themselves withint the next 8 years

>>2066874
Aircraft has been 95% automated for the last 50 years. The only thing keeping two pilots in the cockpit are the unions who are influencing the FAA/congress. There's no current automation for ground ops, not that there couldn't be, and most autopilots can be turned on by 200-400 feet AGL on takeoff and not shutoff until 200ft AGL or less on landing. Those same autopilots can usually autoland but company rules say you may autoland in certain conditions. Point being, the tech has been there for years, and we still have two pilots. ALPA and others continue to lobby to keep pilot jobs. The first place you'll see """automation""" is in all-cargo flights over oceanic airspace. a 4 pilot heavy crew may reduce to a 3 pilot augmented crew, or otherwise either crew may turn into only 1 pilot being required in the cockpit during oceanic cruise and the other guys snoozing in the bunks. Until you see that, don't worry one iota about airline pilot jobs. Grow a pair you little bitch.

>>2066878
>company procedures
lmao enjoy your CATIII with a widebody on the CATI holding point you retard

>>2066883
you say that like it matters? finish your 1500 hours before you mouth off to me mr zero jet time

>>2066888
what equipment your on and how many hours PIC on that you fat cunt

>>2066889
>75/76
>5700 h
I don’t know the total time exactly, the airline tracks it for me.

>>2066890
well get fucked anyways for your retard comments
>95%

>>2066861
I don't need the audio to see from the flight logs she was fighting the plane because she didn't fully understand her plane. Pilot error.

>>2066892
>Pilot error.
yeah obviously, still interesting to see

>>2066861
>>2066892
woman moment

Has anyone ever flown JSX before? They serve some useful spots near me and I like the concept.

>>2066861
Classic case of someone that shouldn't be a pilot able to pay their way to it. The DPE should be under investigation for letting someone who is so clearly lacking all types of piloting skills to obtain a certificate.

>>2066960
im thinking it might have also looked like a smaller problem on the PA28, that has been embiggened by her new high performance aircraft

Nothing cringer than McDonnell Douglas aircraft.

>>2066874
The guy you're replying to is most likely a homosexual Indian with no jet time. Go to flight school.

>>2066943
Hello fellow bus chad. F9?

>>2066861
>>2066892
>>2066893
>>2066900
i'm not really hearing anything crazy, someone blackpill me here, you can't just say "woman moment" the second someone is lost from radio contact

>>2066974
Did you read my post or just mass reply like a faggot? She was all over the place fighting her plane because she didn't understand the planes systems. I haven't flown every type out there but usually there is a red button to disable auto pilot right on the yoke. All she had to do was hit that and follow a heading while maintaining altitude. Once she had that done she could call ATC and tell them she was having problems and request vectors.

>>2066976
>Did you read my post or just mass reply like a faggot?
yeah

>She was all over the place fighting her plane because she didn't understand the planes systems.
no part of your post demonstrated this, do you have a link or something or do you expect me to be mad about an incident i am hearing about for the first time from a youtube video of basically
>hey lady you're not in your lane

>yeah we know

>hey lady
>lady???
>lady is not responding

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>>2066974
https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/193491/pdf

>>2066983
thank u for elucidating. kek what a bitch

>>2066984
page 11 lists all the meds she was on
juan browne has great videos on her too

>>2066985
im not THAT interested but i hope this has taught you a valuable lesson. people will not get mad with you unless they know wtf you are talking about

>>2066986
I'm not even the original anon you were talking to you stupid faggot. Now I regret spoonfeeding you, fuck off you no jet time having nigger.

>>2066982
the issue is that wimmin don't need to say teehee I'm a pilot look at me. These scum sucking cunts don't have the basic stick and rudder skills to stay aloft. If you can't even fly the aircraft nothing else will save you. She got was coming, and literally (figuratively) flew too close to the sun and got burned.

>>2066990
i agree but that anon was still wrong to assume everyone would have enough familiarity with that specific situation to join in the two minute hate session

>>2066992
no idea what you're talking about. I don't have to read anything in this thread to know an egirl crashing is a competence issue

>>2066992
You're a retarded nigger get the fuck out of this thread

>>2066985
Juanito Marron is a faggot, but this woman was a dime a dozen pill popping idiot that was over medicated. The only difference is that she somehow had a pilot's license.

>>2067005
>Juanito Marron
Idk who that is, I was referring to blancolirio
https://youtu.be/6772KBIS4Vo

>>2066967
(user was JDAMed for this post)

>>2066982
You can look up the report, it's out. Go read it yourself.

>>2067006
You are a cretin of the highest order.

>>2067020
You have no jet time

>>2067038
>Implying you do.
>Implying you're not swine incapable of the tiniest amount of abstract thinking.

got forced to stay after work for a vpd presentation from hq and i really really wish i could clip the video to repost here

was a near-miss/vpd during the storm jan 25th at swf where tower cleared an allegiant to land as a snow team was still on the runway during snow ops, pilot didn't hear/obey the go-around given after getting landing clearance onto rwy 27, missed the friction tester + 2 blowers as they were coming off the runway by a split second

trying to find the footage it was genuinely scary glad im seen as too stupid to be trusted leading a snow team around my airport...have a feeling they forced us to watch it because they don't want it getting leaked/screen recorded it honestly could've just been a fucking powerpoint/online meeting

both parties at fault imo pilot deviation + snow ops should've had tower radio on and gotten the fuck off when they heard atc freaking out over not getting a response to their 2nd go around

>>2067041
I'm starting a 4 day tomorrow and I have no idea why you're upset at me for not knowing who Juanito Marron is. I'm assuming you're brown and he is some important figure in your lesser culture analogous to the spic who played the halftime show.

>>2067077
nta but marron is just spanish for brown

https://wiki.alsresume.com/index.php?title=Blancolirio_(Juan_Browne)

probably refers to this guy

>>2067078
Understood, the guy replying to me is a spic upset that I refuse to learn his disgusting mud language. Thanks anon.

>>2067078
>be in aviation general
>speak language other than English
yeah that anon was doomed from the start

>>2067063
>snow ops should've had tower radio on and gotten the fuck off when they heard atc freaking out over not getting a response to their 2nd go around
thats ILLEGAL anon you CANNOt have ppl on the ground listen to SECRET AIR COMMUNICATION'S

>>2067063
>vpd from hq
>reddit spacing
what the fuck are you on about

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>>2066861
Not a pilot. But I watched the blancolirio video on that and when I heard she had 'flown' that plane for 200 hours and still didn't understand how to use the trim settings left me dumbfounded.

>>2066251
Is going through all the schooling worth getting into part 121 or 135 flying at 34?

>>2067165
>Is going through all the schooling worth getting into part 121 or 135 flying at 34?
Theres a few guys at my school that age and older even. I think taking a discovery flight is a good idea before deciding this is for you. They should really make discovery flights in actual IMC. It would probably save people a lot of money

>>2067180
>taking a discovery flight
Silly question. How would I go about arranging one of those?

>>2067259
Find flight schools near you. The majority of them will take you up for like 100-200 dollars. Just call and ask.

>>2067261
ty for the info anon. May also be weird to ask, but do you think they would find it odd if I asked them to lunch either before or after the flight to ask them more about the career/field?

>>2067277
Nah that wouldnt be weird, it would be smart. Just don't be surprised if they can't or say no. Most CFIs are busy and have blocks of instruction lined up in advanced. You probably have a better chance of getting to talk to a CFI for an extended period of time if its a Part 61 program rather than Part 141

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>>2067277
>34
Not too old
>ask them more about the career/field?
Save your lunch money. What do you want to know? I’ve been in the industry 10 years, I’m on my third airline. I can tell you more about 121 ops than any CFI.

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I had to call out sick of a trip because the FO I was flying with was so fucking hot that it was making me feel strange and distracting. She made me too uncomfortable. She looked like a Kpop girl, it made my heart skip.

>>2067299
Thats pretty goddamn beta

>>2067302
well duh, what do you expect? This is 4Channel

>>2067298
How do you actually network as someone starting from scrach

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I fucking love airports

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>>2067435
Networking comes naturally as you progress in the industry. Make friends with your CFIs and your regional captains and keep in touch with them as they move on to legacy carriers and they will write you letters of rec. Another, more humiliating option is to attend a job fair and grovel.
Guard your reputation as you would your life. When you are starting out, all it takes is one fuck up to torpedo your career. Stay off social media. Assume that everyone you fly with will be your chief pilot someday.

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>>2067440
man Idk how to even approach a job fair, what if I blurt out mein kempf exceprts

>>2067444
I wouldn't recommend it, total humiliation ritual. Get 1500, go to a regional and progress from there.

anyone have any advice for anon taking instrument checkride in the next month or so?

>>2067448
NTA but this seemed obvious to me. Wtf is even at a job fair? Weird rando bush pilot/helicopter jobs?

>>2067528
I have never been to a small one, but the big ones (nigger/fag/women pilots associations) are for major and legacy carriers. You have to "join" an organization that hates you and wants you dead for the chance to sit down with a recruiter.

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What means

>>2067546
"essential service" people or people in fields that dont want to strike willy-nilly will fuck up their uniforms on purpose to demonstrate that they are unhappy. it's sorta like flying a national flag upside-down (formerly a real maritime distress signal, now more denoting general dissatisfaction)

>>2067546
Every single thing posted by view from the wing and gary leff is just anti AA propaganda. Hes a former AA employee and a giant faggot journo thats trying to get back at an old employer.

>>2067508
Don't fuck up.
The only people I know who busted their IR ride were total idiots. You need to think calmly and logically about each phase of the flight. Think 1-2 steps ahead of the airplane and always have a plan B in case you fuck something up. Keep your scan going and maintain focus throughout the ride. You can do this.

>>2067530
All this affirmative action shit needs to be put to an end. How many more flipped CRJs do we need to realize that hiring people in critical jobs based on gender, race and sexual preference is a mistake? I'm also getting sick of flying with retards that couldn't get a college degree.

Would you get fired for saying bad things about israel and jews?

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How THE FUCK do ATCs remember an entire fucking National FIR Map? I'm stumped on how I can even begin to remember the cavalcade of waypoints and VOR reporting areas. I think I'm not gonna ngmi as an ATC bros...

>>2067580
I'm glad I made it to the legacies without having to waste time and money on a useless degree, every 85 IQ brownoid has a bachelor's degree now anyways.

>>2067298
>What do you want to know?
How do you know what schools are ggod and which are not? There are plenty of questions on things I don't even know what to ask. I guess what are some tips for someone just starting out and things to keep in mind.
>10 years, I’m on my third airline
Is that typical?

Oh I guess wha I really wanted to ask, would it be weird to basically spend most of my career as a FO rather than becoming a captain?

>>2067435
>>2067444
Not me btw

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>>2067613
>How do you know what schools are ggod and which are not? There are plenty of questions on things I don't even know what to ask. I guess what are some tips for someone just starting out and things to keep in mind.
Meet the CFIs and see if you like them and they're not complete retards. Ask to see the fleet schedule. You need to fly your ass off to progress quickly. Treat flight school like a full time job. Sheppard air the writtens and get them done ahead of time.
AOPA is a good resource.
https://aopa.org/training-and-safety/learn-to-fly/flying-for-fun/choose-where-to-train
Jetcareers is good too but I wouldn't bother with APC its full of negative fucks
>Is that typical?
Somewhat. I was a CA at the regionals and an LCC (pic rel) and furloughed from both before making it to the legacies. If you're motivated, you can make it a lot quicker than that. I got lazy and hung out in the left seat for too long. This industry is a big dumb game of musical chairs, make sure you're in a good seat when the music stops.
>Oh I guess wha I really wanted to ask, would it be weird to basically spend most of my career as a FO rather than becoming a captain?
Lots of guys stay senior FOs. Your schedule is great and DL/UA/AA FO pay is really good.

>>2067448
Did you go right to a regional after 1500 hours? About how much money can you expect to make flying a regional? I assume it is salaried with benefits by that point?

>>2067615
>I got lazy and hung out in the left seat for too long.
Can you explain this further? I thought pilot in command hours were most important.

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>was gearing up to get my flight dispatcher cert next year maybe, then start the career
>was thinking i would try to get sun country as a career destination after spending a bit at whatever regional offers me a job first
>now sun country is going to get eaten by allegiant
well shit i guess.

>>2067640
>Did you go right to a regional after 1500 hours?
Yeah
>About how much money can you expect to make flying a regional? I assume it is salaried with benefits by that point?
Regional pay is ass, FO pay starts around $100/hr and you're gonna credit ~75 so about $90-100k starting out. Just google "[regional] pay scale" when you're getting closer to deciding.
>Can you explain this further? I thought pilot in command hours were most important.
The only purpose of TPIC should be to get to a legacy/major carrier. I got way too comfortable in the left seat of my shit ass regional and LCC and didn't bother applying out of both until the ship was sinking.
I think the wisest career path for you would be to go to a regional, take the first available CA upgrade, and then make it your life's mission to get to the majors. Flows are an option as well but they're kinda overrated imo.

Is cargo flying for like fedex or ups overrated? Not having passenger drama seems like a dream

>>2067666
>regional pay is ass
kill yourself bucko, regional pay is amazing. You're lucky it doesn't sink back down to 2021 rates now that hiring is slow as fuck

>>2067713
Legacy guys really have it that good I guess

>>2067762
You're right about that there bucko

>>2067713
Anon, you can’t raise a white family on regional FO pay. Post pay scales anyway I’m curious what they’re at now, I got out of the regionals in 2019.

>>2067770
Envoy jumped the pay scales crazy style in June 2022 and every other regional had get their pay in that range to stay competitive in hiring. Most day 1 FOs at min guarantee are making in the $70k-85k a year range to start.

>>2067770
another pilot with rich parents who got him there i presume

>>2067779
This is my goal with my boys.

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>>2067772
$70-85k is kinda rough in today’s economy, I made that in 2016
>>2067779
I wish. Pic rel
I had to claw my way out. Grew up middle class, but parents were deep in credit card debt. House foreclosed in ‘08 crash and parents divorced. Mom died before I started flight school, and dad got addicted to drugs and it ruined him. This was a career change for me, I worked in drinking water treatment before I went to ATP. I saved up $20k on my own, financed the rest through sallie mae.
>>2067783
Same. I want better for my kids. I was always the guy bitter about “rich parents” until I had kids of my own. I have 3 boys each with 529s and Trump accounts. You buying a plane or sending them through flight school?

>>2067790
Can't imagine not buying a plane

>>2067797
Based, any idea what you want? My plan is to cover most of the overhead and they pay for the CFI and fuel. 529s are backup if they don’t want ratings.

>>2067800
I haven’t really thought that far ahead man, it'll be over 5 years out at least. Probably just start with someone's old 152 or something while dreaming of something with a low wing and power.

Our instructor is literally telling us to kill ourselves if we fail ATC training. And you know what, the pressure makes me wanna consider it bwos.

I paid for all my training and then my wife’s medical school. Our rich boomer parents covered maybe 10% the overall cost. Needless to say I’m not putting my kids through the same crucible. Our parents covered for their greed by saying it built character…what a crock. We lived like shit for no reason and now we are getting the early stages of a guilt trip about how we are going to take care of them as they get into their seventies.

They’re not bad parents but they just don’t recognize the times. Either way, the cycle ends with our generation and our kids will have every last cent of their education funded.

>>2067902
Very based, I feel the same for my kids. That said, I'm not funding a masters degree in feminist dance.

>>2067902
>my wife’s medical school
a man funding a woman's education into a male dominated career field never back fires spectacularly

>>2067927
>male dominated
right now is still more male overall, but for a few years now there are now more women than men graduating medical school. And of course btw those men arent white.

>>2067935
Shes going to spend the majority of her time gossiping with complete whores, and within dick range of rich surgeons. Godspeed anon.

>>2067936
Pilot mogs surgeons to healthcare professionals, particularly MD’s

>>2067936
Thanks but my wife isnt in medical school, actually I dont have a wife, I dont even have a girlfriend

>>2066840
Foreigner aircraft mechanic here, been on the field for 5+ years and currently working doing heavy checks at a MRO.

How life going my fellows mechanics?

>>2067936
Even resident MD’s and M3/4’s learn to hate nurses and especially NP’s with such a burning passion that they inherit basically none of that whore behavior. If you can land a doctor you do it, but be careful with DO’s they have a massive chip on their shoulder.

>>2068024
>3 sons
Yeah I have mostly daughters. The good news is that, if I make it to old age, my daughters will care for me at the very end. Bad news is, this gambit will take another 30-50 years to pay off if ever. I need more sons.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Only-3-US-Airlines-Can-Remain-Profitable-at-Current-Oil-Prices.amp.html

AA bros Im not feeling so good....

>>2068047
I'm also 3 sons gang. Just gonna have to make sure they all become little gigachads and marry some cute daughters in law for me.

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>>2068065
>According to UBS analyst Atul Maheswari
>pic rel
You're taking advice from a jeet

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>>2068065
>Alex Kimani
The author of that article is also Kenyan. Give me an article written by a normal person or fuck off.

>>2067884
just do operations or become a pilot

plenty of jobs you can do other than atc, unironically heard of atc washouts who become great commercial pilots keep your chin up

>>2067129
reddit spacing is pause breaks fuck off redditor ive been on this site for 20 years

airport hq showed us a vpd at stewart intl airport that nearly ended with a blower + friction tester getting pasted by a plane landing

>>2068115
>vpd
nobody knows what your on about and your still reddit spacing mr ramp rat

>>2068145
Vehicle/ pedestrian deviation
Looks like anon was saying there were snow guys on the runway

>>2068115
>>2068225
When I tattle on brown people driving ground vehicles that cut me off to ramp freq does anything actually happen to them?

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>mfw when a trimcel says something so VFR-rated you gotta hit 'em with that IFR stare

>>2068270
no because you're telling ramp retard why would the ramp give a fuck it was probably one of their guys

>>2068294
I don't know who this is and I don't care.

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Which one are you picking /n/?

>https://youtu.be/rUGgFVRiol4?si=3yJEz2oEcRhs_QTz

>>2068372
You're smoking penis dude. You buy your plane for $30k, now where are you gonna park it? Wait lists are in the 5-10 year mark for a small hangar, and you can't have wood spar and fabric covered aircraft sitting under the sun. Basically, aircraft ownership is impossible.

>>2068300
>no because you're telling ramp retard why would the ramp give a fuck it was probably one of their guys
What?

>>2068389
Retarded zoomers, phone posting, and a refusal to use punctuation marks and capitalization makes it much more difficult to understand their simpleton thoughts. I'll try my hand, though!

>No, because you're telling [a] ramp retard. Why would the ramp give a fuck? It was probably one of their guys.

>>2068379
I wouldn't say impossible but yeah the price of the airplane itself is not what is preventing me from buying one right now. It's gonna have to wait until I have some property out of town.

>>2068400
Thanks anon, but that still doesn’t make any sense.
If I get cut off by a catering truck and have to slam on the brakes, I always tattle on them to the controlling ramp/ground frequency. Implying that controllers have a vested interest in protecting niggers driving a Sky Chefs truck is fucking retarded lmao

>>2068412
Are you being obtuse or just dumb? Do you really think people investigate their own kind when grievances are raised? Certainly you've heard of "the blue wall" in reference to police.

>>2068420
aviation does attract autismos

Hi, I am posting from airplane wifi.

two openings at Jazz for the curry anons in canada.

so....how about those vehicle/pedestrian deviations.....
Why werent they told to go around?

Is it realistic to go around at that late stage if youre hearing "truck stop truck stop" right as youre about to land?

>>2068533
operational incident (overwhelmed atc already busy dealing with an alert, back to back last minute landings since lga closes at midnight) and the plane already landed when he was given clearance

i thought it happened at a high speed exit too iirc since he got hit at 90mph, those high speed exits are the sketchiest part of driving around lga. thankfully jfk doesnt have as many hot spots.

>>2068534
nope

he was already on the ground just slowing down to get off at the same exit he was crossing at iirc

>>2068534
>24mph collision
i think the plane may have already been on the ground and attempting to stop??? but you could try doing a sick drift in a Dash 8 or whatever and prove everyone wrong

>>2068588
I saw the video, no way that was 24mph

>>2068588
The video it looks like they are going way faster than 24. If they were really just going 24 they should have been able to stop pretty quickly or at least push the nose into the grass to not hit the truck.

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Just finished our checkrides for Approach (TRACON) and 5 got wiped the fuck out. I barely managed to survive procedural control with all equipment offline but I'm scared. We still have Enroute and Tower left. Pray for my soul gagbros...

>>2068372
wtf, is that USA? I did some research and you need to have at least 150000 USD to comfortably have a 4 seater shitbox. And i mean comfortably, by yourself.

my IFR cross country ended up being a $1,000 flight. Lord help me if I dont make it to airline transport

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>>2069128
love you 747

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>>2069130

>>2069130
Majestic.

Incredible news guys, I got a CJO from Skywest! I opted to take the first available class. Which of course is the clapped out CRJ. Anyway I’m not upset at all, I have 780 total time and a military rotor background. So I felt like I got crazy lucky to get any regional. How did you guys like SkyWest/Reigonals?

>>2069240
Congrats

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>Mooney M20 max cruise 242 kts
>280 HP engine
>Piper M500 max cruise 260 kts
>500 HP engine
>cheapest turboprop I'm aware of at $2.5 million

Why doesn't anybody take a small sleek plane, and drop a turboprop into it, so it can keep up with the fastest turboprop singles while staying affordable? It'd be like a Mooney on steroids. I bet you could sell a 300 knot plane for $2 million, which is half what you'd pay to go that fast in an M700. I thought pilots loved going fast, so what gives?

>>2069252
That's basically what Lancairs are(one variant had a turboprop) and they've killed many doctors, dentists, CEOs, and round-the-world attempts.

>>2069252
>small sleek plane
a Mooney, yes
>Mooney on steroids
you mean a TBM, which is a literal turboprop Mooney
>I thought pilots loved going fast
Non-pilot owners might, but owner-operators hate spending their own money and often prefer volume, useful load and/or economy cruise over pure speed

>>2069265
This. Piper Cherokee Six is probably my ideal airplane for personal ownership. Cheap to actually operate and fits a lot of people and stuff.

>>2069252
>Why doesn't anybody take a small sleek plane, and drop a turboprop into it, so it can keep up with the fastest turboprop singles while staying affordable?
You wouldn’t sell enough conversions to cover the cost of the type change approval.

>>2069130
Great photo
>>2069240
>I have 780 total time and a military rotor background.
You're going to be behind the airplane for years. Get used to everything happening faster. Every RTP guy I flew with was a nice guy but a complete and total clusterfuck in the cockpit.

>>2069294
in the last thread they were saying rotor guys were so much more skilled etc,

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>>2069258
>>2069265
>>2069288
Well that's disappointing. Not that I would ever own one, I'm a poor zoomie, I just think turboprops are cool and wish they were more attainable.

I became a pilot to get chicks and now all I do is fly, read about flying, and get stressed out about stage checks and checkrides.

>>2069303
>in the last thread they were saying rotor guys were so much more skilled etc,
Not my experience with them in airline operations. I had RTP FOs at the regionals and at the ULCCs. They're great guys, humble people and always appreciative of advice but they're terrible in jets. Never flew with one I wouldn't want to fly with again. I totally get it, if you stuck me in a helicopter I'd be completely fucked.

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>>2069240
Congrats, now get ready to learn. I just upgraded to CRJ CA, I'll see you on the line.
>>2069329
>>2069303
Very hit and miss IMO. Couple were great, most were average or slightly below, and I know a couple who didn't make it through training.

>>2069240
Is it pretty much assumed these days that anyone who gets hired agreed to the contract? Spoken to a few people that feel they were auto-rejected once they declined to sign it.

>>2069430
What are people not wanting to sign? Because it's conditional?

Because of that orange pig, our country's aviation industry is on the brink of collapse. I'd be happy if a terrorist attack like 9/11 happened in Washington.

>>2069569
On the one hand I wish them all a very happy die in a fireball, however remember that 9/11 caused total air travel shutdown for awhile.

>>2069569
>orange man bait
>aviation on brink of collapse
Is this about the ATC faggotry or the fact that having a pulse is not enough to get a job at Mesa anymore? The ATC issues started with Obongo changing the hiring standards for ATC and thus dicked controllers for the following decade. If you're mad about the fact you can't get a job, it's always been this way. Aviation has always had more pilots than jobs, sorry you fell for a couple ads and spent $200k on your ratings, better luck next time kid.

>>2069764
The job market is not bad for pilots. Idk about other parts of aviation though.

>>2069767
That's what I'm saying

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>>2069764
>>2069767
if we're lucky this turns into another covid-lite scenario where in another 1.5-2 years there's a bit of a hiring push
at least i hope so for dispatchers

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construction has fully picked up at jfk, sorry to anyone flying into it

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>>2070116
How do you taxi there without the dick head yelling at you

>>2069569
Pilots are bitchin but take a look around, every single job is in the same state nobodies hiring anywhere

>>2069569
You forgot to install the latest anger update.

I'm looking at kit planes and seeing the ridiculous cost of avionics. Is there anything stopping me from using a barometer from an rc flight controller to get altitude and climb rate, whatever barebones radio is required, and an iPad for attitude gps navigation speed etc? Am I missing anything? Everything is so small and light you could easily just carry 2 or 3 as backups

>>2070262
you dont have to get Garmin, also avionics is one of the things you cannot risk it while building an aircraft, a couple of DYNON AVIONICS D3 could help you if you truly are running on budget. Also you can get them used way cheaper on craiglist or facebook groups or marketplace

>>2070262
lmao dis nigga gonna be on blancolirio

>>2070262
Ipad connected to a smaller less expensive garmin unit is fine for additional situational awareness, we do that at my school, but you aren't supposed to rely on it like the proper avionics.

How much does a basic vacuum six pack cost anyways, surely that is within budget. I don't actually know what the FAA requires for a kit plane to become airworthy.

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>>2070180
dont interrupt them, speak clearly, and know your rights from your lefts otherwise theyve been pretty pleasant and nice with me but that probably means their supervisor yelled at them (but even the "nasty" ones are sweet with me)

i have all day when i do tug escorts/sweeps as ops so idc i know im low priority

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>>2070262
That's, in part, why I'm going ultralight. It ain't certified at all anyway, so I can do whatever the fuck I want as long as it makes weight.

>>2070273
Would this be enough?

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/rcamini6.php

>>2070336
I want to take passengers

>>2070408
I dunno, looks pretty fancy and inexpensive. Limited space?

>>2070266
ah ok just a grand each that's not bad
ok this doesn't seem that hopeless

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>50,000+ commercial pilots licenses
>only 5,000 getting hired each year
its so batshit over

>>2070653
They're all Chinese bro don't worry so much. No I don't know why their home schools suck but they are a supermajority of the students at every part 141 school.

>>2070653
I wouldn't know how to crunch the numbers, but, there's a reason why there's a large difference between the number of CPLs and ATPs. ATPs are generally literal professional pilots, either current or previously (retired, medical, etc). CPLs can be a very wide number of things: helo pilots, professional CFIs, chinamen who left the US, yuropoors who lefts the US, military pilots who did the FAA conversion, airline wannabes who failed and walked away, GA pilots who got a CPL to lower their insurance premiums, etc. If there was way to sort out CPLs that have existed for more than 3-5 years out of the list, that'd be a better representation of people actually looking for airline jobs.

American airlines bros, is United taking over?

>>2070710
Hard to say why Kirby would say that, it's never going to happen. I'd assume he's attempting to butter up the Trump admin, and say in a month "since the AA merger didn't work out, you'll surely give us a merger with JetBlue, right?" But your guess is as good as mine.

>>2070719
theyre really going to buy a whole airline just to get back gates from JFK they already had?

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I'm sitting under this 74 in the rain. It's my friday feelsgood

>>2070719
Its because everything Kirby says is bullshit meant to generate press. Kirby has a deep seated hatred for pilots because he washed out of UPT in the Air Force and he has an even deeper hatred for American because they passed over him for Doug Parker. He’s a creepy little crossdresser and has been instrumental in staffing United with retarded women and niggers.
>>2070740
They can’t. Delta, United and American are all too big to buy each other now.

>>2070747
Fucking witnessed those digits holy shit. Also rainy night walk arounds are so comfy.

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Does flying age people? I saw some photos of America's first female pilot, taken just before and after she got her license. How the hell does that happen? I've noticed other early female aviators seem to age rapidly, too. Do pilots still experience this effect today?

There's about a year between the photos. First is from September 1910, second is from sometime in 1911. She died in 1912 after falling out of her airplane. Luckily her airplane managed to land itself afterwards.