>>1499107
Wasn’t it single or double digits (like from two to ten)?

i like how OP already knows his source is complete shit and is running damage control before anyone says a word

>>1499108
It was ONLY

>>1499107
>In 95,641 person-years of potential follow-up from 820,926 adolescents, there were 56,496 positive SARS-CoV-2 tests; 72 COVID-19 A&E attendances; 90 COVID-19 hospitalizations, of which three included admission to critical care; and no COVID-19 deaths. There were three non-COVID-19-related deaths; 3444 fractures; 22,764 A&E attendances; 2664 unplanned hospitalizations; nine cases of pericarditis; and three cases of myocarditis.
>nine cases of pericarditis; and three cases of myocarditis.
Wow that is the edge of an edge case. And if you look at the full data the myocarditis rate is even more of a nothing burger
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12643559/table/T2/
So somehow the vaccine causes myocarditis but somehow the second shot causes it less? Sounds a lot more like a coincidence than anything else.

>>1499111
i think he just wants us to forget about the files, or vietnam 2.0 being started (so we forget about the files)

>>1499111
oh and even more fun, if we're gonna use this as "The vaccine causes myocarditis!", I'd love to point out the unvaccinated also have much greater numbers in terms of unplanned hospital visits. And to make matters even worse, this literally shows outright the unvaccinated kids were twice as likely to be hospitalized because of covid compared to the vaccinated ones.

Deadly but mostly harmless COVID vaccinations

>>1499113
Yeah but like 3 kids died, and like 20 were hospitalized.
You made healthy kids take this trash and advocated for fucked them up.

>>1499117
>Yeah but like 3 kids died, and like 20 were hospitalized.
...from non-covid causes. It literally notes explicitly in the study that the ones with myocarditis or pericarditis didn't even spend 3 days in the hospital at most and none of them died. If we're gonna compare hospitalization rates, ironically the unvaccinated were higher than the vaccinated on all levels.

Considering the numbers were in the thousands and the deaths/heart condition numbers were single digits, you can't really link them to any particular cause. The vaccinated simply was more unlucky than the unvaccinated in that regard, not in any way that actually correlates otherwise it would've been more notable.

Yeah but they used the Kaplan-Meier estimator

>>1499107
>theblaze.com
Glenn Beck's blog is not a valid news source.

>>1499137
>Attacking the source link:
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12643559/#abstract1

>>1499118
>>1499118
Look at this fag, not trusting science an shit

>>1499145
Your own link literally highlights how unvaccinated had higher hospitalization and covid rates and these supposed "Myocarditis connections" amount to a mere 9 cases across literally thousands of kids, and at that point it's more a matter of coincidence than causation.

>>1499146
Your own link literally discredits your own point.

>>1499150
>>1499151
It's funny how often this happens.

>>1499152
Op's entire purpose for being here is to shit up the board with right wing culture war clickbait like this story.

>>1499150
>Myocarditis and pericarditis were documented only in the vaccinated groups, with rates of 27 and 10 cases/million after the first and second doses, respectively.
Huh?

>>1499150
>Among 820,926 previously unvaccinated adolescents, 20-week incidence rate ratios (IRRs) comparing vaccination with no vaccination were 0.74 for positive SARS-CoV-2 test, 0.60 for COVID-19 A&E attendance, and 0.58 for COVID-19 hospitalization. Among 441,858 adolescents who had received the first vaccination, IRRs comparing second dose with single-vaccination were 0.67 for positive SARS-CoV-2 test, 1.00 for COVID-19 A&E attendance, and 0.60 for COVID-19 hospitalization. In both children groups, COVID-19-related outcomes were too rare to allow IRRs to be estimated precisely. Across all analyses, there were no COVID-19-related deaths, and fewer than seven COVID-19-related critical care admissions. Myocarditis and pericarditis were documented only in the vaccinated groups, with rates of 27 and 10 cases/million after the first and second doses, respectively.

You didn't save anyone. You only injured the healthy. Eat shit.

>>1499107
WE MUST END ALL VACCINES. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SAFE OR EFFECTIVE VACCINE.

>>1499166
There was up to a 27/1,000,000 chance the vaccine made your heart weaker

>>1499170
There was a 0% chance without it.

>>1499107
As someone who works for Pfizer and has stock in the company, I just want to let you know, I made a lit of money thanks to the fedbux.
I appreciate reddit and online leftists pushing the vax so hard. It was a great ad campaign. Thanks, bros.

>>1499171
One of Covid's long term symptons is heart issues

>https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/covid-study-misrepresented-in-misleading-heart-inflammation-claim/
>The study in question did not specifically look for cases of myocarditis and pericarditis following infection.

>>1499171
Can you stupid fucks just stop using modern medicine altogether?

>>1499107
Hi newfriend, welcome to /news/!
In the future, you should paste the article text. Please lurk on this board before you make another post.

>>1499171
Which doesn't make sense because then that would imply myocarditis could ONLY be caused by covid. The reality is the amount of cases is so low compared to the sample size it's likely just a coincidence just like how the only casualties in the whole study were 3 kids in the vaccine group who died from completely unrelated causes.

>>1499166
>>1499167
First of all those same stats show that unvaccinated were much higher for hospitalization rate from both covid and other causes, so I'd love to see you explain that. Secondly the "27 and 10 cases/million" number is a bit misleading because the actual number of cases of myocarditis and pericarditis were 9 and 3 respectively in a study that had about 400k in each group.

Trolling and shitposting threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 and >>>/global/rules/6
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/news/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=1499107" target="_blank">https://sys.4chan.org/news/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=1499107

>>1499189
We here at /news/ love our tranny obsessed closeted shills
Don't try to do the right thing, just let them continue to degenerate for our enjoyment

>>1499184
We do, but we're trying to save all of you as well. The individual is the cell of the body politic. If the individual is sick, the body dies.

>>1499189
>>1499190
Same tranny posters that usually only post 'esl shill'.
Sorry, you guys were wrong and are wrong about everything.

>>1499107
I supported the vaccine and I am pro vaccines in general but I’ve noticed heart related side effects in my own body since taking it.
I don’t understand why some people have planted their feet on the “there are no side effects” side. Side effects from medicine is not a political or partisan issue. This was a pretty new tech so who really knows what the full side effects were?
To anons, if you’re someone who insists there can be no downsides or negative long term effects from the vaccine, can you explain why you feel that way?

>>1499199
>I supported the vaccine and I am pro vaccines in general but I’ve noticed heart related side effects in my own body since taking it.
It's been 5+ years. It's a combination of both getting older and placebo because you keep reading about heart side effects.

The irony is covid itself actually has a documented history of causing heart issues, so even if all this shit was true you're still better off rolling your dice with the vaccine than the actual virus.

>>1499201
Would you say that to the 27 young people diagnosed with Myocarditis after getting vaccinated?

>>1499202
Lefties would rather die from an adverse reaction to a medication than admit that their faith in 'the science' was misplaced. Because that would mean their group-think consensus-informed morality is total dogshit.

>>1499202
>27 young people diagnosed with Myocarditis
>27 out of a million
>The average annual incidence of childhood cancer is approximately 150 cases per million children under 15 years old
About six times more children are getting cancer than got heart conditions from the vaccine.
No one but morons think this is a problem

>>1499202
>>1499203
Wasn't 27. It was 9, which in a group of over 400k means nothing in terms of correlation. 3 of the vaccinated participants also died of completely unrelated causes; you think the vaccine caused them to get hit by a bus or something? Nevermind how the rate actually went DOWN for the group that received two vaccines instead of one; I'd love to see you explain how the vaccine causes myocarditis less if you have had more of it.

>>1499208
Myocarditis is a "scab condition" (idk the English word for this)
The first time you get it is the most obvious, future exposure is more dangerous but less noticeable on tests

>>1499208
>you think the vaccine caused them to get hit by a bus or something?
I think that lefties lied so much about the efficacy of the vaccines that I can't trust them to tell the truth.
This is further solidified by the fact that we've gone from 'it doesn't happen, that's a conspiracy theory' to 'it doesn't happen enough to matter' in the span of five years.
Five years and countless dead later, the same people who were nagging us about overpopulation and climate change are now saying this mystery vaccine which isn't really a vaccine is now inscrutable. And this was after they were counting anybody diagnosed with COVID that died from cancer, car accident etc. as a COVID death.
But yeah man tell me more about this thing you've tried to lie about and threatened people to take under false pretenses is totally safe and effective.

>>1499211
>The first time you get it is the most obvious, future exposure is more dangerous but less noticeable on tests
Except they're literally testing for it. And it isn't "We noticed 9 of them had it after they had the first shot but only 3 of those 9 had it after the second". The One Shot and Two Shots groups are separate, so that explanation doesn't work. If you wanna argue "Well they didn't test for it as much!" then the entire statistic is meaningless because the unvaccinated kids likely weren't tested at all or at least were inspected as a vastly lower rate.

>>1499212
>This is further solidified by the fact that we've gone from 'it doesn't happen, that's a conspiracy theory' to 'it doesn't happen enough to matter' in the span of five years.
No one is saying it is impossible to develop Myocarditis after getting a vaccine. The problem is you've yet to obtain any actual concrete link that the vaccine caused it; this article alone is trying to cite a link by saying "See, 9 out of 400k kids had it after being vaccinated! That's totally a connection!" You need more solid numbers than a few cases out of literally thousands to prove there's a connection as opposed to them having the condition coincidentally.

>And this was after they were counting anybody diagnosed with COVID that died from cancer, car accident etc. as a COVID death.
Actually the opposite is true. It turns out we undercounted covid deaths.
>https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/early-official-covid-death-tolls-may-have-undercounted-19

>>1499214
You do not understand. The first time you get the symptoms is the loudest.

>>1499219
Maybe you googled wrong
not you, whoever is giving you your shill talking points

>>1499220
I am not googling this is my field of expert.

>>1499221
No, you're an esl faggot and that post wasn't about non-english faggotry, your actual 'field of expert'

>>1499222
You sound angry that you have no education and pity is yours.

>>1499201
>The irony is covid itself actually has a documented history of causing heart issues, so even if all this shit was true you're still better off rolling your dice with the vaccine than the actual virus.
No it doesn't.

>>1499329
god you're esl

>>1499330
>tranny rage
>no argument
Concession accepted.

>>1499331
you really do have a humiliation fetish huh

>>1499332
>no argument
Wow, a double concession. Brutal.

>>1499333
i don't argue with shills, i'd rather just make fun of you for being a pusillanimous waste of jism

>>1499335
>no argument
Three concessions and an admission of trolling.
Interesting tactic.

>>1499338
tactic? anon, i'm calling you a stupid faggot, it's just a simple observation

>>1499339
>no argument.
>Bumped thread
Concession number 4 and thread at the top of the page.
Imagine losing this much while trying to troll.

>>1499341
alright, shill anon. i think i've fed your humiliation fetish enough, someone else can give you the attention you crave from this point on. your mother regrets having you and you should probably kill yourself

>>1499201
Yeah I think those things are both totally possible. But if the vaccine does have a connection to these issues too it’s good to know about that.

>>1499342
I actually have a concession fetish, and with 5 now in the bank, I'm feeling pretty euphoric.
My mother loves me. Don't project your mother telling you she should've had an abortion on to me (she's right).
Five concessions though. I think that's a new record, and with any luck you'll also get a break from posting for a couple days.

>>1499329
Yes it does.

>>1499347
Sauce?

>>1499348
Google it stupid

>>1499350
Tried. I found nothing that mentions whether or not those who developed heart issues were vaccinated or not.

>>1499353
I guess shill google must be different

>https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=coronavirus+heart+issues

>new evidence has revealed that anyone infected with COVID is at higher risk for heart issues—including clots, inflammation, and arrhythmias

>>1499353
That’s not what you were denying in >>1499329. Covid has a documented history of causing heart issues.

>>1499203
There's only one thing you should have faith in and that is the word of God. Modern science was always a load of bunk. The only vaccine is herd immunity.

>>1499361
gayyyyyyyy

>>1499212
At this point I just want to see a blanket vax ban just to piss off the leftist more than anything else.

>>1499363
at this point your mother just wishes she had an abortion

>>1499192
Me and my own took Ivermectin. The horse blocks you can get work pretty great if you can water them down a bit.

>>1499365
>>1499363
>>1499361
You people literally have peasant brains.

>>1499363
You don’t believe in anything, we know.
Man, how did you losers end up in the same bed as the bible thumpers? That’s bizarre.

>>1499367
They both want to end the world, but one wants to do it as a joke.

>>1499107
You should just become a tripfag already, I know it's you liggeralfag.

>>1499201
>you're still better off rolling your dice with the vaccine than the actual virus
>implying the vaccines prevent infection
lmao, lol

>>1499417
Yes.

>>1499365
Took mine as a soupository worked real good. Had to use some oil too

All of this is a distraction. The real question is how did the Americans manage to smuggle the virus into China without the authorities being aware?

>Republicans stop taking vaccines
>Measles roars back to life, infecting 1500 in just this year alone
I know correlation is not causation, but don't you think there is at least a little bit of a connection between placing your hand on an active stove and burning it?

>>1499498
You are wasting your time, these stupid fucks literally do not have an understanding of cause and effect, that is why the are anti-vax conservatives.

>>1499110
Single digits is awfully low.

Single digit percentage would be high.

>>1499498
>only happening when Democrats lose power
>Are Democrats spreafing it intentionally.
Same thing happened in 2018 IIRC.
Are Democrat intentionally spreading measles as some sort of biological attack?

>>1499107
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12643559/#abstract1

>Conclusion

>BNT162b2 vaccination in adolescents reduced COVID-19 A&E attendance and hospitalization

Erm.. Did you even read this?