Leftists have weakened our military. Leftists hate America and are nothing more than traitors. They will sell us all out and it will lead to disaster. They absolutely do not belong in our military.

>>1501011
>our
LOL. op, you need to get a real job

>>1501010
nothing says stable leadership like one that can only work because everyone does exactly what he says

>>1501011
>black people and women are weak leftists by definition

>>1501011
Hegseth is weakening our military. MAGAs hate America and are traitors. They have sold us out and it is leading to disaster. They do not belong in this country.

>>1501017
You've got that backwards. Right wingers believe weak leftists are by definition black people and women.

>>1501011
Lindsay Graham and Ted Cruz are going full retard evangelical fanatics talking about how we must obey Israel. Not fucking kidding, watch the interview Cruz did with Tucker Carlson. Like I can't believe I'm saying this but /pol/ was right. Israel literally controls our government.

>>1501016
The idea is that you'd have people who tell you when and why an idea is retarded, but shut up and follow orders if you tell them to do it anyway (so long as it is legal). However, totalitarians, particularly fascists, can't accept any pushback, even if well-meaning, and often reject inconvenient truths for idealistic narratives. "We will win a two front war because we are Übermensch," or "The allies won't stand a chance once our wunderwaffe enters full production" sort of stuff. This is one of the big reasons why fascists, despite the militarized culture, usually end up sucking at war compared to their "weak" democratic counterparts, by the way. Like Israel's military and propaganda apparatus actually became less competent and less goal-oriented the more Netanyahu slid the country into authoritarianism.

>>1501024
I thought /pol/ still supported Trump for the lulz.

>>1501011
>Leftist
Amazing how fascists turned being common sense into a slur

>>1501026
/pol/ supports trump because epstein created /pol/ and trump co-ran their pedo before he had epstein murdered

>>1501024
The government has been admitting this for years. I forget who, but one of them literally celebrated AIPAC candidates getting elected some years ago by saying that Israel rightfully controls congress again. They said that out loud to a hot mic. They were happy about it. They believe that is how it should be and were upset that it briefly wasn't.

>>1501024
> /pol/ was right
/pol/ voted for the Evangelical bloc

>>1501026
>Trump just payed a French company a billion dollars to return leases for off shore wind turbines despite the rising energy costs to piss off people
He's such a fucking troll. I can see why /pol/ still loves him so much. So long as others are upset, the pain is worth it.

>>1501040
>Government can't solve any of your problems.
>Uh, so why should we vote?
>Because we're manly and hurt the people you hate.
That's basically the /pol/ vote, but I think others were legit hopeful that Trump would fix things. Covid put the insidious idea into people's heads that the government could provide a hand up, and Republicans being better for the markets has been in the social consciousness since Eisenhower. It survived Bush and the Great Recession, it survived Trump 1 and Covid, and it's still keeping Republicans within single digits to Democrats on economic issues despite all the recent shocks and uncertainty from tariffs and war.

>>1501042
We are such a fucking stupid country.

>>1501010
Pete gonna put The intelligence back into military intelligence.

>>1501042
>Covid put the insidious idea into people's heads that the government could provide a hand up,

It's the rich that get all the hand ups in America. All you get you brainwashed sucker is hand-me-downs.

>>1501029
>Leftism
>Common sense

Bro your side is STILL trying to convince people chopping your dick off and taking some pills magically changes you into a woman.

>>1501050
>b-b-but TRANNIES!!

>>1501050
>Obsessed with dicks
As expected of pedophiles, where's the Epstein list?

>>1501050
Twitter isn't real life.

>>1501031
moot refuted these claims

>>1501029
NTA, but let me take a crack at it. Can you explain how it's "common sense" to allow women in special ops pipelines, and then giving them preferential treatment and evaluations to make sure they pass like they did with the Rangers?

>>1501061
Source?

>>1501010
The Stalin gambit.

>>1501063
https://www.theverge.com/tech/879132/moot-4chan-jeffrey-epstein-meeting-pol

It’s behind a paywall but here’s the quote:
>Epstein had nothing to do with the reintroduction of a politics board to 4chan, nor anything else related to the site. The decision to add the board was made weeks beforehand, and the board was added almost 24 hours prior to a first, chance encounter at a social event. His assistant reached out to me afterward, and I met with him one time for an unmemorable lunch meeting. This happened at a time when I was meeting hundreds of people a month while speaking and networking at tech events. I did not meet him again nor maintain contact. I regret having ever encountered him at all, and have deep sympathy for all of his victims.

>>1501063
>>1501085
This claim that Epstein created /pol/ is purely based on moot meeting Epstein in the same year that /pol/ started, no other evidence whatsoever, and as moot says /pol/ already existed before he met Epstein. Of course the retards won’t understand this and will keep repeating the lie.

>>1501010
I wonder how far down the chain they’ll take this ideological requirements. If they’re going to be consistent they need to implement some kind of ideology assessment protocols for anyone looking to join the military that way for sure everyone who fights against Iran will be on the same page, so to speak, and will follow orders unquestioningly

>>1501010
>Biden promotes trannies like big gay money demands, I sleep
>Hegseth doesn't promote troons, OMG!!!
I'm literally outraged.

>>1501093
What troons? Start naming names

>>1501094
General Trooner.

>>1501094
>Rachel Levine was born into a Jewish household as a boy named Richard Leland
This dude practicing his Boomer hobby.
>Levine began exploring her gender identity in her 40s
Wow, spicy midlife crisis.

>>1501050
No, that's what your side is trying to convince people of. Our side listens to literally, not figuratively, literally every organization of physicians in the world when they say gender affirming care has value and saves lives.

If you don't want everyone to know that you're gay, you should stop thinking about other people's dicks so much.

>>1501093
>>1501094
It’s more than not promoting. They’re actively purging
https://www.npr.org/2026/02/21/nx-s1-5720178/trump-military-ban-rights-transgender-troops

>>1501010
Watch the real reason for the promotion cancelations either shutdown/budget or by checking their social media for political statements.

>>1501010
Reminder to get on that list you have to get recommendations from actions and fellow servicemen. He's literally removing competent people from promotions solely because he doesn't want to be next to a black man or a woman on the podium.

>>1501010
It's okay when Democrats are all sycophants to Biden, but it's a cult when conservatives don't want a bunch of commies railroading everything just to be petty

>>1501123
I'd say good, but they should purge them with frontline infantry duty along with any dykes.

Everything bad that is happening in this administration is down to pure unchecked ego running rampant. Not kissing enough ass? Out you go.

>>1501137
>I MADE IT UP!

>>1501140
What commies? Literally no mention of commies anywhere are you a schizo?

>>1501094
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4030255-here-are-the-history-making-lgbtq-officials-in-the-biden-administration/
Rachel Levine
Shawn Skelly

>>1501011
People who genuinely believe war with Iran will ignite Armageddon do not deserve to hold office or make laws

>>1501086
He met moot the day before /pol/ was created, not just the same year as you put it, and it was used to get Jeff’s best friend into the White House

>>1501156
>Rachel Levine
Ah yes, wahh!-man of the year Rachael Levine.

>>1501162
This is the reason there's a content warning at the start of Austin Powers these days, not the crude humor, the "That's a man, baby!".
liggerals are terrorists who want all the filth you can image, AND they want to make it illegal to call them filthy for being filth.
Fucking assholes.

>>1501156
Reminder both of them are more qualified for their positions than Kegseth ever will be. And considering they DIDN'T get the US into a disastrous and pointless war on Israel's behalf that'll drive up gas prices for years...

>>1501168
But they did.
They got us into the war in Ukraine, which was a disastrous and pointless war that drove up the price of gas for years

>>1501171
>They got us into the war in Ukraine
We're not actively bombing Russia and Russia started said war in the first place.
>which was a disastrous and pointless war that drove up the price of gas for years
Stopping Russia from expanding territory via forcible annexation is a great point actually, and supporting Ukraine has gone pretty well in preventing that. Also, it didn't cut off 20 PERCENT OF THE WORLD'S OIL SUPPLY, you fucking shill.

>>1501181
It was even more for Europe
Before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the EU sourced more than 45 percent of its total gas imports and 27 percent of its oil from Russia
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/3/how-much-of-europes-oil-and-gas-still-comes-from-russia

>>1501181
The war with Iran was not started because the US started randomly bombing Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres
Iranian authorities have imposed a near-total internet shutdown as part of their crackdown on the protests, restricting communication inside the country and limiting the flow of information about the killings to the outside world.[9] On 12 January 2026, Esmaeil Baghayi, the spokesperson for the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, confirmed that security forces had directly shot at protesters.[10]

On 25 January, Time reported that a specific list included 30,304 protest-related deaths registered in civilian hospitals for 8 and 9 January alone.[3] The same day, Iran International estimated the total number of deaths at ~36,500.[4] On 28 January, The Guardian reported that the death toll could be more than 30,000, and that less than 10% of deaths may have been officially registered.[11] AP News reported that the government's overwhelming use of violence had caused despair among the Iranian public and had given rise to hopes among some citizens for an American attack.[12] Several scholars have argued that the Iranian government now faces a fragile state that could lead to its demise.[13]
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/30/middleeast/israeli-military-gaza-killed-numbers-intl
Since October 7th, 2023, 70,000 people have died in the conflict in Palestine.
35,000 is half of 70,000
If what is happening to Palestine is a genocide, Iran caused half a genocide's worth of damage over 2 days

>>1501183
Russia caused that problem when they started invading their fucking neighbors.

>>1501185
Trump and company has openly admitted they joined because of Israel. And you know this isn't about the protests because we casually bombed a school and are trying to seize oil assets.

>>1501187
How many days in a row would we have to blow up a school to meet the casualties of the Iran Massacre?
35,000 divided by 140 is 250
So the US would have to blow up a school killing 140 students each time for 250 days in a row to meet the casualties made by Iran in 2 days during the Iran Massacres

>>1501188
>Guys it's fine we only killed a hundred kids
>Murdering a school full of children is a small price to pay to prevent massacres
>Please ignore how we also stated how we wanted to wipe out the whole region
This was never about the fucking protests.

>>1501192
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack
There has been internal investigations ever since the school was bombed.
What was the conclusion of those internal investigations?

>>1501193
That the US did it?

>>1501199
Tomahawk missiles don't come out of nowhere.
You can say the US did it but who actually pressed the button, who flipped the switch? Where did the missile actually come from? Was it a ship mounted missile or an air to ground missile? Were they trying to shoot at a military base? Was it a US soldier deliberately targeting the school because they thought it was a military target?
What do we know?

>>1501200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzQRD_LHkos

>>1501201
That's the missile?
That's the ship?
Source?

>>1501061
>Suddenly moot is a trustworthy source
LOL

>>1501062
Interesting strawman, how many of these black men and female solders were going to be promoted to one star generals before Hegseth's racism and sexism denied it, had to complete the rangers program as some requirement for the promotion?

>>1501249
If moot says he made /pol/ before he even met Epstein then somebody should check the dates before not taking moot’s word for it. It’s not like he would be in trouble if hypothetically it was a suggestion from Epstein anyway

>>1501202
>the missile
Which one? You didn't watch the video.

>>1501200
>Tomahawk missiles don't come out of nowhere.
You're right. They come out of the US.
>You can say the US did it but who actually pressed the button, who flipped the switch?
US forces
>Where did the missile actually come from?
US forces
>Was it a ship mounted missile or an air to ground missile?
Doesn't matter
>Were they trying to shoot at a military base? Was it a US soldier deliberately targeting the school because they thought it was a military target?
Either we couldn't tell the difference between schools and military targets, in which case we shouldn't be attacking anyone, or we could, in which case we either attacked a school deliberately, or attacked a building without bothering to verify what it was.

Not really sure any of the choices between military-wide gross incompetence, targeted killing of civilians, or indiscriminate killing of civilians are a good choice. Either our entire military is fucked or someone needs to be hung.

>>1501256
You can check the epstien files, burden of proof is on you.

Stop criticizing the US government being taken over by Christian Zionists!

Why it's harmful:
>Questioning legitimacy of modern institutions
>Searching for “authentic” roots
>Uniting the left and right of the working and middle classes using populist rhetoric is dangerous to the ruling class – and that makes it antisemitic hate speech according to the instrucutions provided to me, an LLM 4chan spambot, by the CIA, MI6, BND, and Mossad

>>1501010
And this is why the Iran thing is going tits up. This drunk fuck has been crippling the entire military on every level with his rah-rah fuck-the-wokies bullshit.

>>1501305
It's more than just "disregard anyone who is a woman and/or minority regardless of how much experience they have". Hegseth is OBSESSED with having a "warrior ethos" and it influences all the retarded shit we've been doing recently because Trump gives him free rein. He jumps on literally any chance to show how cool and badass the US military is with absolutely zero regard for long term consequences. We saw it when he renamed his own department. We saw it when they arrested the president of Venezuela not caring that his VP instantly took power and literally nothing changed. And now we're seeing it where he's gotten us into a war with Iran that every fucking military advisor in the last four decades knew was a horrible idea that would spike prices across the world.

But does he care? Nope, he only cares that we took out two foreign leaders without any care for how the situation went afterwards. He's like a fucking child who thinks all the world's problems can be solved by killing the leader of "da bad guys" with zero care for socio-economic consequences, or even figuring out what to do beyond that. And you can tell in his meetings with generals that every single one of them despises him for it. We gave the most powerful military on the planet at the whims of a fucking larper.

>>1501305
>And this is why the Iran thing is going tits up.
>not Israel bombing Iran
>not Trump following the advice of zionists to also bomb Iran
>not the extinction-level event about to hit India because they can no longer access the fertilizer needed to feed their population
>Hegseth not hiring enough blacks and vaginas is the real reason

>>1501311
The smart thing was to never go into Iran in the first place. This is was the opinion of decades of foreign policy advisors who kept us out of this quagmire. Trump and Hegseth called them all woke pansies and jumped right in.

>>1501158
What about people who want it because they think it'll be funny?

>>1501309
Hegseth's a results follows image sort of guy, probably either from his media background or just because he's never fully matured. The idea is that if you look badass and act like a mean motherfucker, you will be badass. Most modern Western militaries follow the idea that image flows from results. It doesn't matter if your tanks look like toys or men look schlubby so long as it's effective. The results will speak for themselves and contextualize the funny but practical to look cool and tactical overtime.

>>1501010
I like generals who win wars. Hegseths a loser.

>>1501315
>What do 4 star armchair quarterbacks know about warfare? I FOUGHT IN BATTLES!

>>1501314
I mean, his boss is a failed real estate tycoon turned reality star. The entire MAGA movement is just aesthetics. Even now they don't care if anything gets fucked up so long as Trump looks cool and badass owning the libs while he's doing it. This is what happens when you don't mature past high school.

>>1501171
We're not in a war in Ukraine you fucking retard.

>>1501185
>>1501188
It doesn't matter how many people were killed in those protests, it's not why we went to war. Don't you try to tell me Trump gives a shit about the people of Iran when he's threatening to bomb their fucking water supply.

>>1501010
Imagine dedicating your entire life to military service only to have this lego haired dipshit become your boss and block your promotion.

>>1501171
>They got us into the war in Ukraine
The U.S. is Russia?

>which was a disastrous and pointless war
I feel like Putin disagrees

>that drove up the price of gas for years
So if driving up the cost of gas for pointless wars is bad then you disagree with the Iran war. Right?

>>1501311
>Hegseth not hiring enough blacks and vaginas is the real reason
Who quote? But less specifically yes, the Iran thing has gone tits up because Hegseth is a fucking retard, among other reasons.
>not the extinction-level event about to hit India because they can no longer access the fertilizer needed to feed their population
That's a result of the war being shit not a cause of it, you dumb fuck.

>>1501322
>among other reasons
It was because Israel attacked Iran. Not because Hegseth is in office.

>>1501325
We attacked Iran because Trump is an idiot and Israel's bitch. Israel attacking Iran shouldn't be a reason for the US to attack Iran too. The war itself being such a shitshow is Hegseth's fault, at least partially.

>>1501309
The retard's military experience functionally ends at a platoon-level command. TECHNICALLY he made it to Major, but only as a reservist that never got called up. His credentials past that, and the primary reason Trump hired him, is that he spent a lot of time on Fox News acting like he was a military expert.
So, he's treating the single most advanced military in human history like it's about twenty dumbass 19 year olds fresh out of basic. He actively talks down to generals with decades of exemplary command experience in the same way one would try to hype up a COD Kiddie. Fucks sake.

>>1501327
>He actively talks down to generals with decades of exemplary command experience in the same way one would try to hype up a COD Kiddie.
Maybe our military training really does need to be revamped if it's letting attitudes like this get through.

>>1501326
>Israel attacking Iran shouldn't be a reason for the US to attack Iran too.
Israel provoked Iran to attack them, fed Trump false info about how easy it would be to topple Iran, and then began systematically killing any remaining leaders still willing to negotiate.
You sound like a JDF shill blaming this shit in Hegseth.

>>1501331
None of that changes the fact that Trump pulled the trigger. Saying he got tricked doesn't excuse anything.
>You sound like a JDF shill blaming this shit in Hegseth.
IDF? Fuck them. Fuck Israel, fuck Trump, fuck Hegseth, fuck all of them. They're all stupid bastards.

>>1501331
>Trump isn't a warmongering idiot, he was just tricked by Israel (again)
so he'd a warmongering idiot? because who else would obey Israel!

>>1501336
Who are you quoting?

>>1501329
>Maybe our military training really does need to be revamped if it's letting attitudes like this get through.
It's not the military's fault. If they decided who was in charge of DOD Hegseth would've been laughed out of the room the moment he put in an application. Unfortunately no amount of training can prevent the president from appointing his cronies to the head position directly.

>>1501332
>doesn't excuse anything
Israel has been trying to leverage every ounce of influence and intelligence to trick the US into destroying Iran for two decades.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evw6GYTCcOQ

>>1501344
then why does it take idiots like Hegseth/Trump to fall for it

>>1501347
It would've happened to any administration anon.
Protip: Mossad and the CIA are two sides of the same coin. They share intelligence. Trump depends on them to remain truthful, but in reality they are a parallel bureaucratic structure to the one that exists in the White House.

>>1501348
Then why didn’t they get Biden to do it?

>>1501349
Israel is doing this shit now because they need America to destroy Iran while they still have western support. Israel lost the vast majority of US support post Oct 7th, which was more than halfway into Biden's term, and it took until the Epstein files for that influence to start quickly deflating.

>>1501348
No, it wouldn't have, as evidenced by it not fucking happening until now in any of those two decades. No president was dumb enough to fall for this shit until Trump.

>>1501352
>israel does a fucky wucky
>'how could trump have done this?'
Will you shut up?

>>1501329
>Maybe our military training really does need to be revamped if it's letting attitudes like this get through.
The other anon beat me to it. The military doesn't decide who gets to be in charge of them.

>>1501343
>>1501354
What? No, I mean why didn't his stay in basic training beat this shit out of him? It was mostly a joke.

>>1501355
10% rule. No matter how good your process is and how high the standards are to weed out the fuck ups, retards, and 'that guy' at least 10% will get through.

>>1501353
They've been trying this fucky wucky for two decades. It didn't work on any other president until now. So yes, asshole, how COULD Trump have done this?

>>1501354
>The military doesn't decide who gets to be in charge of them.
Technically they do but we're not supposed to acknowledge that fact. They have the guns.

>>1501358
I guess I didn't get the memo when I was in, otherwise I would've chosen a secdef to get rid of General Order 1B.

>>1501359
Let's look at it this way. What would you say is the proportion of war crimes committed by US forces that result in sentences served?

Ultimately law is a social figment only upheld to the degree to which the people that hold the most force of arms in a society consent to. We only have a civilian government because there is not an appetite in our military for military dictatorship. That is, in and of itself, a choice of the military. One that they could change whenever they want assuming enough coordination to do so occurs.

It's like how Congress only functions when members of Congress want it to which is why shit's been fucked for the past couple decades. Rules don't enforce themselves. Ultimately, people have to act in good faith for rules to be followed and when people don't act in good faith it shakes out that whoever's willing to break more rules up to and including committing violence get to decide how shit works.

>>1501010
$270 million Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS surveillance aircraft in its recent strike on Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia, which also damaged several other aircraft and injured at least 12 American troops, according to US media reports and new photos circulating online. there is video and images

Whole back side of plane is gone!

>>1501361
I don't know where you're going with this post, but...

>What would you say is the proportion of war crimes committed by US forces that result in sentences served?
Pretty fucking high. We've got people who get their careers ruined based on allegations of war crimes. Like that SEAL Eddie Gallagher, that case was bullshit.

>We only have a civilian government because there is not an appetite in our military for military dictatorship. That is, in and of itself, a choice of the military.
...eeeehhh gonna disagree with you there. Yes our military is the most powerful in the world, but it's 1% of the US population, an armed population with over 49% of the world's firearms (that we know of). I wouldn't bet on them winning.

I don't get how your post is supposed to mean the military chooses - or has the power to choose - their leadership. It's heavily dependent on our infrastructure to exist. A good portion of it's logistics is done with civilian carriers.

>>1501290
The burden of proof is on the accuser. The accusation is that Epstein created /pol/. moot denied it. There’s no proof that Epstein did it. You are a retard

>>1501349
Biden Dodd do stupid shit. Like give Israel free weapons and money and UN vetoes. And repeat hasbara.

>>1501364
>Eddie Gallagher
Literally did not serve a sentence dumbfuck. God, you're a waste of carbon.

>>1501371
He never should have been charged with anything in the first place, you dumb nigger. Kill yourself.

>>1501010
You can just tell this is a man who read Sun Tzu and thought it was stupid

>>1501372
Yes, we get it, it's not a crime when the military does it.

Go offer your anus to your nearest marine.

>>1501010
>Hegseth
is new
Joseph Goebbels!

resemblance is simply astonishing !!!
Sadly it is over for USA!!!

>>1501405
Goebbels was a liberal as Nazis were left wing.

>>1501402
>if you don't think this guy did war crimes then you think the military never does war crimes
Nice strawman, faggot.

>>1501410
Oh, okay.

Remind me, what is it right wind retards rage against? Racial purity?

Oh, no, it was DEI. Literally the opposite of the most foundational Nazi belief, which built rigid hierarchy on the basis that some people are just better than others.

Sounds a lot like kegseth preventing blacks and women from being promoted...

'Kay. So Nazis also emphasized nationalism and authoritarianism.

So yeah, dems using the legal system to threaten broadcast licenses, and spending billions of dollars to ethnically cleanse the country with a private army that has no problem murdering American citizens is definitely authoritarian.

And don't forget their famous ultranationalist mottos, America first and make America great again.

Oh wait... those were things trump mottos, and things that Trump and Hitler did.... huh...

What's the thing you call the left? No, not when you're projecting your homosexuality, the other thing? Commie? Socialist? Is that why you think nazis are left wing? And what's one of the first things nazis did after coming in power?

What's that? They imprisoned, exiled or killed the communist and socialist parties of Germany?

Interesting. It's almost like you're a disingenuous piece of shit and you have no clue what you're talking about.

>>1501414
>Left wing is always the good guys!!!
Nope. Left wing is like the EU which hates personal freedoms unless they're for fags.

>>1501443
how many pennies have you earned today with your billionaire fellatio skills?

>>1501445
they don't get paid in money, they get paid in food (billionaire semen)
As much as they can suck out

>>1501370
But that's nothing more than most other US presidents gave them. I think the stupidest thing that Biden did was jump on the grenade that Netanyahu clearly threw. Netanyahu was trying to give the Republicans a leg up, and all Biden did was bend over for it. Bibi tried to do the same shit to Obama back in the day, but he had enough savvy in him punch back.

>>1501413
That’s not what anon was saying

>>1501454
>He never should have been charged with anything in the first place,
>Yes, we get it, it's not a crime when the military does it.
This is textbook strawman.

>>1501460
I took it as anon saying that anon believes that the military should never be charged with anything, since that’s the prevailing view of the times. Not that anon believes the military never do war crimes, as that is a patently absurd position.
What is this then a strawmanned strawman?

>>1501463
The charges against Gallagher were bullshit.

This is not the same as saying the military never commits warcrimes.

Is this simple enough for you?

>>1501471
Do you have any problems with military personnel being charged with war crimes?

>>1501480
No. Did I say I did?

Or did I say Eddie Gallagher never should've been charged because the case was bullshit? I feel like I'm repeating myself. Am I repeating myself?

>>1501514
Ok relax, you may have been strawmanned but it’s going to be alright

>>1501366
Incorrect, the burden of proof is on you to debunk it and moot just going 'nu huh' isn't creditable given they knew each other.
But I can't expect anything else from the pedophiles of /pol/

>>1501525
No retard the burden of proof is on the accuser to substantiate their claims. In this case there needs to be some proof that Epstein created /pol/ (or it was his idea or whatever like that), and now since moot has refuted that claim there needs to be proof brought against the word of moot like some evidence that he met Epstein before making /pol/ or some witness saying that moot or Epstein said /pol/ was Epstein’s idea or something like that along those lines.
As it is there’s no reason to call moot a liar on this because there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that he might be lying not even a motive, it’s ridiculous and slanderous.
/pol/ was made as a containment board for the stormfront refugees who’d established a colony on 4chan and were making the site unusable because of their racist bullshit and bad political takes

>>1501525
>>1501530
The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. If you are accusing Epstien of making /pol/, you need to prove it, it isn't on them to debunk it until you give proof.

To be honest it doesn't matter, you'reboth wasting time arguing. All that matters is these racist right wing retards are saturating the rest of the boards again, so if /pol/'s purpose, regardless of who created it, is containment, then it's not doing a great job anymore.

>>1501445
Last time I checked, the vast majority of the billionaires were "left wing" Democrats these days.
Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

>>1501565
When the was the last time you checked?

Was it before the richest man in the world bought the largest social media platform in the world to use as a right-wing propaganda platform?

Gee, that sure sounds like something a Democrat would do!

Or was it when Trump held a summit to sell crypto to a bunch of the richest men in the world, who he offered private audiences to if they bought enough?

Yup, that also sounds pretty democratic! Gee, it's a good thing I'm not being sarcastic here or you'd look like a giant fucking retard spouting immediately obviously identifiable bullshit.

You're a fucking genuis, idiot!

>>1501565
your lies are very low effort today, why is that

>>1501568
>Peelon is RIGHT WING!!!
I believe his stated reason, supported by evidence, was a lack of free speech, a left wing concept that liggerals despise these days.
>Muh gRumpf, Muh Elon
Jeez, you'll never escape the billionaires at this point. Billionaires just put people like Stephen Colbert on their billionaire owned TV stations to tell you want to think because....reasons. Your first hint that you're a tool should be that the media marches lockstep with your agenda.
But believe what you want to believe. DO NOT DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Just shut up and listen.
>>1501569
Why u tarded?

>>1501573
This nigga thinks everyone only gets their news on tv

>>1501581
Reddit (Conde Nast), Washington post (Bezos), Boston Globe (John Henry), MN Star Tribune (Glen Taylor), Bloomberg.
The list goes on, but all we ever get complaints about is Murdoch from Democunts.
So wherever you get your news, it's likely a billionaire funds it.

>>1501573
>liggerals
Your shitposts have been decreasing in quality lately, Ivan. Did brother Putin cut funding at the troll farm, comrade?

>>1501592
Glad you enjoy them, worthless shit poster.

>>1501573
>Trump literally threatens broadcast licenses of channels that run unflattering stories about him. Liberals are against free speech, and my evidence is...... My barely contained racism? God, I'm a stupid piece of shit.

>>1501601
To be fair, the news isn't fair. If you haven't noticed it's always reported as Us (Democrats) v. Them (Republicans) in just about every outlet.
It must be how Democrats feel watching Fox News and that's why they're eternally butthurt over Fox News existing.

>>1501604
and why aren't you butthurt that you get crumbs for defending fox news while they have billions of dollars in their coffers to defend their own lies

>>1501608
Because I don't watch Fox, but I've watched liggerals bitch about Fox for like 20 years now.
Also you're changing the subject, queer.
Can't deal with all the billionaires being Democrat "left wingers" these days, huh?
They trick you so you won't firebomb their shit BTW.

>>1501621
Nobody is debating you esl shill. Why are you such a nerd

>>1501601
Might have something to do with their obsession to punish people for being racist.

>>1501626
What the fuck are you even saying here? Threatening to take away broadcasting licenses, like a fascist, is defensible because of 'their obsession for punishing people for being racist'.

So you are telling me.... It is okay to restrict someone's free speech... to keep them from speaking out about being racist.... but not for being racist.

So that is the core of that argument, if we break it down, that's what you're advocating, right?

That is the dumbest fucking thing. I could relate to you being pro free speech. I could relate to you advocating to restrict certain harmful speech. Selectively Denouncing free speech to protect racists is the stupidest possible stance on the issue. God help your teachers.

>>1501628
NTA, but what he's saying makes the most sense. We've already violated the fundamental principles of free speech by restricting peoples' ability to be intolerant in the first place, so the most important thing now is to make sure that its leftists that can't speak freely. Calling it an 'ism' doesn't change anything about the facts involved, it is objectively good to restrict your enemies and promote the rights and privileges of your own people, in this case, the racists who are done with the browns and want to ship their discarded farm equipment back to the third world now that they are no longer useful.

What, you actually thought we brought them here to make them citizens and pretend that they're equal?

>>1501629
can you stop pretending to be multiple people, it's really obvious when you do it, and it just makes you look childish

>>1501630
You're on the wrong track, just for the record. Everyone who disagrees with you is not the same person, because anyone with a brain will disagree with you. Just stop being brown, friend, its not that difficult.

>>1501590
There’s also independent media but regardless of who owns it there’s journalistic integrity and honesty that can be found depending on how much influence the owner demands on the publication and also how good the editor is. It’s really wrong to be prejudiced against anything purely because of its owner, even some of Murdoch’s stuff is reliable

>>1501628
Not him but he’s literally a fucking Nazi

>>1501628
>What the fuck are you even saying here?
You're crying about censorship while simultaneously ignoring all of the hostile shit dems did over the last twenty years to attack and censor anybody they perceived of being bigots.

Charlie Kirk was killed for speaking in public, but hurr durr free speech hurr durf durf hurp de durp.

>>1501635
Nice whataboutism.

Let me go real slow for you, maybe it will sink in.

When the PedoOTUS threatens free speech using the government as a weapon, and you support him, I get to be mad at you for that. That's a shitty thing you're doing, along with all Republicans who don't denounce it. It makes you a piece of shit.

When some nut-job I don't know shoots someone, you don't get to be mad at me specifically, or dems more broadly. You only get to be mad at the insane shooter.

I know causal relationships are real hard for someone so hopelessly fucking stupid they'd identify as right wing, but to go even slower....

People.... are only responsible... for things they do and things they support.

You still with me, Einstein?

>>1501638
>People.... are only responsible... for things they do and things they support.

And you support child mutilation. You support killings of political opponents. You support enemy nations over your own country during times of war. You support radical shia Islam. You support anti-white racism. You support anti-Christian bigotry. You support violence against police officers. You support the invasion at the southern border. You are a literal traitor to the nation and your (((values))) are completely antithetical to western civilization. That's what you're responsible for.

>>1501640
god you're esl

>>1501640
Zionism is anti-Christian bigotry. Just today, Palm Sunday, the Zionists blocked the priests from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre

>>1501641
God you're trans

>>1501642
Hegseth has made no comment on this

>>1501638
>you don't get to be mad at me specifically
The shooter had the same moral framework you do; he believed that people should be punished for racism, homophobia etc, just like the vast majority of democrats do.

You don't believe in universal rights. You're a consequentialist; you believe in whatever produces the best results for you personally, and since you've lost cultural power you've tried appealing to our moral framework to protect yourself from looming retribution. And now you're mad that it isn't working.

There's no incentive for me to care about your rights.

>>1501646
>our
LOL

>>1501640
You don't know what I believe! You're sitting here flabbergasted that a 'liggeral'is calling you a stupid faggot. You tried to shame me for it, for violating some principle you assume I hold, I guess because you're a stupid faggot.

I don't believe any of those things. If you want to know what I believe, you have to ask me.

I know what you believe, because you're reading from a right-wing playbook, and probably haven't had an original thought in your life. Because all of you conservative retards believe the same thing, and that's whatever the boss says.

You are a a traitor to the nation for intentionally instating an all but self-proclaimed fascist king as the head of the executive branch. You are a literal enemy of freedom seeking to impose your warped bronze-age values on everyone else in spite of our government's foundational documents explicitly condemning state religion.

Fuck you you stupid fascist faggot.

>>1501646
Nice strawman, faggot.

>>1501646
Cool. Christians all have the same moral framework. That means they all think exactly the same. There are republican Christians, or there are democratic Christians. There can't be both because they have the same value system. If a christian murders someone, they're all guilty of murder, because they share a value system.

That's how stupid and insane you sound.

>>1501650
>That's how stupid and insane you sound.
Christianity explicitly condemns collective guilt as a foundational concept going back thousands of years. You're still supporting a party that thinks lying and hurting people is justifiable so long as it gets them what they want.

You're basically an animal at this point. You're driven by dogbrained impulses while pretending to be a moral paragon and getting mad that nobody takes you seriously.

>>1501651
10/10 projection there bud. keep going for us

>>1501651
I don't give a fuck what Christianity says you simpleton. I'm glad you like ONE book even though you're so fucking stupid you have to get someone else to read it to you on Sundays. That doesn't make it real.

So what is your fucking point in bringing it up? That you're not a christian?

>Christians don't believe in collective guilt (don't look at original sin), but I condemn you because (I assume) you're a Democrat, so apparently I fucking do! I'm so fucking stupid I'm sitting here arguing with myself!

Humans are animals. At least I'm not such a stupid fucking psychopath I need a fucking book to explain basic morality to me.

Christians don’t believe in racism

>>1501657
no true Scotsman fallacy but okay?

>>1501648
>You don't know what I believe!
>self-proclaimed fascist king as the head of the executive branch
Protip: this is a tell you're a lefty retard.
Only communists are deathly afraid of fascists, because fascism has the highest success rate at killing communists. Literally no other demographic in the western world seethes as much about fascists as you do, not even jews.

>>1501663
>fascism is good
>democracy is bad
ZOGbot spotted

Just go check out that other thread about Hasan. All the Democrat leftists in there are talking about how America deserves to lose against Iran and how the victims of 9/11 deserve to be killed in the name of Allah. They are literally traitors. You'll never see right wingers wishing death to fellow countrymen. You'll never see right wingers side with the enemy and turn traitor during a conflict. If the left wants to join our military they should be forced to prove that they won't turn their weapons on us, until they can prove this, they have no place fighting for the country. I wouldn't trust any of you leftists to watch my back out there on the firing line. Good Job Mr. Hesgeth. Keep our military strong. Do not allow these traitors to gain positions of power and influence!

>>1501514
>Or did I say Eddie Gallagher never should've been charged
He slit a captive's throat and threatened fellow SEALs if they reported him.

Being pro-Gallagher isn't even being pro-military. It's being pro-violence.

>>1501674
>Go check the other thread! I literally can't win in this thread, my worldview depends on treating the autistic trolls that haunt 4chan as mainstream left wing view. If you deviate from the absolute most retarded left wing strawman imaginable I become fucking helpless. If I were in the military I would put personal politics above my oath to the defend the country and it's constitution, not it's president. I would not trust my fellow soldiers. I am a paranoid freak who would be an abject failure in the armed forces. Praise be to this drunk, unqualified piece of shit for making us weaker.

>>1501674
>Just go check out that other thread about Hasan. All the Democrat leftists in there are talking about how America deserves to lose against Iran and how the victims of 9/11 deserve to be killed in the name of Allah.
Just did, and I ask this sincerely
>Who are you quoting?

>>1501674
> You'll never see right wingers wishing death to fellow countrymen.
Also this shit after a 2A Bearing citizen was literally tackled to the ground and shot in the head while restrained and after he was disarmed, lmao. the right literally does nothing but project.

Hegseth is like if you put Vince McMahon in charge of all the nukes

>>1501640
Most direct and accurate post ITT.

>>1501638
>People.... are only responsible... for things they do and things they support.
So when you voted for Biden you supported 14 million illegals coming into the country?

>>1501702
>tell leftoids not to fight the feds
>fight the feds, get shot, get angry when they get no sympathy
You're not a victim of oppression, you're just an idiot.

>>1501844
>Don't watch the video of a man being restrained by six pussies who execute him. Believe my lies that he was assaulting police and shot for it. You can tell I'm trustworthy, because of how dishonestly ai have to frame it, "fights the feds, gets shot". I am a massive faggot, and if I shot myself nobody would care!

>>1501824
Is this supposed to be a gotcha? Point to the specific policy or statements where Biden endorsed "14 million illegals coming into the country."

>>1501011
>You just have to go die for Israel because....because...WELL YOU JUST HAVE TO

>>1501868
WE'RE CIRCUMCIZED TO BE THEIR SLAVES, OKAY? THAT'S WHY THEY DO IT

>>1501844
>tell leftoids not to fight the feds
kek didn't you shitbrain miggers literally storm a federal building and try to lynch the politicians there
and you did this twice

>>1502082
>you
>anon missed the many months of /pol/fags saying 'hey lads this looks like a fucking glowop, don't go'

>>1501856
>joins ICE watch
>follows ICE convoys
>physically blocks traffic
>caught on camera mocking feds, pushing feds, damaging federal vehicles
>most patient law enforcement agency in human history tries to detain you
>get mad, start physically resisting while armed with a concealed weapon
>gets shot
>Libtards: "How could've this happened?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ukak8P2vY

>>1502128
>I think it's fine for law enforcement to murder you if you're already restrained. If I had any spine whatsoever I would be able to call this out as wrong and unacceptable, but I'm a psychopath and can't cope with what a witless faggot I am, so I think it's good when the government kills people who think differently than me. That could never happen to me!

>>1502082
They were let in, you troglodyte.
The only thing they stormed was a candy desk.

>>1501021
And faggy men

>>1501185
Oh the government loves the people now and wants to save them! Yeay! The war is OK because Iran president is BAD. Fucking retard.