The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by suspected killer Tyler Robinson, a bombshell new court filing states.

Robinson, 22, is facing capital murder charges and a potential death sentence for Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on September 10.

But his defense attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'

The defense team may now offer the ATF firearm analyst's testimony as exculpatory evidence, they said in a motion filed on Friday to push the preliminary hearing back at least six months, Fox News reports.

It also notes that DNA reports filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and ATF will take time for the defense team to analyze because reports indicated that several different DNA samples were found on some items of evidence.

'As these cases indicate, determining the number of contributors to a DNA mixture and determining whether the FBI and the ATF reliably applied validated and correct scientific procedures... is a complicated process which requires the assistance of various types of experts, including forensic biologists, geneticists, system engineers and statisticians, all of whom must review and evaluate' several different categories, the filing states, according to Deseret News.

Robinson's attorneys added that they have received about 20,000 electronic audio files, videos and written documents that prosecutors have presented as evidence in the case.

'The defense team has devoted, and will continue to devote, significant resources, to processing discovery, including identifying materials not yet received to inform readiness for the preliminary hearing,' the filing states.

'However, the defense team is realistic and the comprehensive review required to determine what is missing will take hundreds of hours.'

'What is known at present is that Mr Robinson has not yet received the forensic case files and data necessary to investigate, through the use of qualified experts, the scientific reports the state intends to introduce at the preliminary hearing,' the attorneys continued.

Defense attorneys and prosecutors had previously met on March 12.

Based on that meeting, the defense said in the motion it believes prosecutors will introduce 'discrete "buckets" of evidence through three identified law enforcement witnesses at the preliminary hearing.

'This includes a conclusory forensic DNA and ballistic reports authored by the FBI and the ATF, social media data, testimony by law enforcement officers about the crime scene and search locations, and testimony by Mr Robinson's parents and roommate' as well as "a significant amount of hearsay" from "non-testifying peace officers".'

Prosecutors have alleged Robinson drove three hours from his home to the university campus to kill Kirk, 31.

He was turned over to authorities by his father, Matt, after he recognized his own dad's rifle in the images released by police amid a manhunt for Kirk's assassin.

Tyler's grandfather had given him the rifle as a gift before he used it to kill Kirk, authorities have said.

After then recognizing the 'unique' gun, Matt texted his son, asking him for a picture of the family heirloom, which the suspect could not provide, according to police.

In a text exchange between Tyler Robinson and his roommate and partner, Lance Twiggs, the alleged killer claimed the rifle was the only evidence he left behind, court documents show.

'If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on,' he allegedly wrote. 'I haven’t seen anything about them finding it.'

Robinson also reportedly wrote about planning to get the weapon from his 'drop point,' but that the area was 'locked down.'

'I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle,' he continued.

'I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpas rifle… idek [I don't even know] if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with.'

The alleged killer then expressed concern that his father would ask to see the gun.

'I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints. how the f*** will I explain losing it to my old man... only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel,' he wrote.

Robinson signed off the fateful text exchange by warning his partner Lance Twiggs to delete their messages, and said his father was trying to call him about his grandfather's rifle.

He ultimately allegedly confessed to committing the murder to his father, who then contacted authorities and secured his son before he could be taken into custody.

Robinson's arrest shocked his friends, who told the Washington Post that even though the accused murderer would 'joke' about Republican politicians 'catching a bullet' during drunk tirades, they saw no indication he was violent.

Those in his inner circle have identified him as having been radicalized by left-wing extremists, but claimed he provided no indication that he would kill Kirk.

'He loved his guns, he loved his beer, he hated the government. That's the impression that I got,' a friend who regularly played card games with Robinson and his housemates told the Post.

The friend claimed that Robinson openly opposed Democrat and Republican politicians and though he was registered to vote, was not affiliated with any party.

Robinson is now due back in court on April 17, when his defense attorneys and prosecutors will debate the issue of allowing cameras and microphones in the courtroom.

His attorneys have previously noted that pretrial publicity reached as far as the White House, with President Donald Trump saying shortly after Robinson's arrest that he hopes 'he gets the death penalty.'

They are now expected to show evidence at the hearing they believe contains 'harmful and prejudicial media coverage of this case thus far.'

But Kirk's widow, Erika Kirk, has called for full transparency in coverage of the trial, saying: 'We deserve to have cameras in there.'

She also publicly forgave Robinson for allegedly killing her husband.

>>1501872
>The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by suspected killer Tyler Robinson, a bombshell new court filing states.

I'm guessing this is a case of the ATF saying the bullet is a 99% match and the defense latching on to that 1% and claiming someone else did the shooting.

>>1501878
i'm guessing maga is comically evil

I stand with Candace Owens

>>1501871
>subject: Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match rifle used by suspect Tyler Robinson
>the actual article: The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by suspected killer Tyler Robinson
>keyword: MAY
Why the fuck do I even come to this board?

I'm more willing to suspect that the ATF and FBI fucked up their analysis in their rush to throw the book at him due to pressure from powerful figures (just like Luigi). There are some very incompetent people at those agencies, but I think you'd need a really special kind of retard in charge of evidence falsification for the conspiracy of Kirk's mic actually being a pager bomb to be true and also for them to not plant the correct kind of bullet in the "totally real evidence we really found at the scene" bag.

>>1501887
Both are correct
>Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'

Presently it does not match, it may not match in the future. Get better at English my nigga

>>1501890
The courts in the US, I suppose the application of the law is what I mean, is so bad. From what I know if the bullet doesn’t match and there’s no eyewitnesses this guy will walk, which means someone else might’ve done it so yeah. Can’t even trust a confession in America since fucking water boarding is legal

Standing on a roof pointing a rifle at someone isn't a crime, lmao
The FBI doesn't have proof that Robinson actually necked Kirk

>>1501890
Bullet matching is not a real science and they're trying to match a fragment, not a whole bullet. It doesn't matter. They have video of him leaving the scene, they have grandpa's horribly bubba'd durr gun, and they have a confession. I hope the bussy was worth it.

>>1501887
For the banter. Retarded thread titles are just the norm.

>>1501894
Do they have eyewitnesses? Can’t trust video now because of deepfakes. Has to be proof, it’s a serious accusation

>>1501895
TIL
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-field-of-firearms-forensics-is-flawed/

>>1501895
>video of him leaving the scene,
>they have a confession
They already had this for someone else, this is meaningless

>they have grandpa's horribly bubba'd durr gun
Oh no, he had a gun at an event about celebrating having guns on campus

If thats all the FBI has, Robinson should go free

>>1501872
>But his defense attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'
So it's just his lawyers saying dumb shit?

>>1501901
>Oh no, he had a gun at an event about celebrating having guns on campus
Unserious post

>>1501895
>They have video of him leaving the scene, they have grandpa's horribly bubba'd durr gun, and they have a confession.
Yeah unless you can actually match the rifle he owned to the gun that killed Kirk this is incredibly weak evidence if this is all they got.

>>1501895
>They have video of him leaving the scene,
That's basically their entire case, and a grainy video showing a nondescript white guy doesn't seem like 'beyond the shadow of a doubt' type evidence. That's why they had to plant those retarded text messages.

>>1501925
>That's basically their entire case
And his confession he sent to his 'girlfriend'.

>>1501904
Lawyers always love to gaslight juries that evidence is CSI Miami with enhanced video from flock cameras and barcode matching scratches off a perfect undeformed bullet.

>>1501926
Those are the text messages I was referring to. They need a braindead jury to sell this case right now.

REGARDLESS OF FORENSICS, MY MONEY IS ON THE SHOOTER BEING THE GUY STALKING KIRK FROM THE ROOF WITH HIS RIFLE.

>Filings claim
>Experts says
>Sources reveal
>New study says

>>1501957
Yes this is how new information is reported. Glad you connected those dots.

>>1501958
Man it's like Anitfa's birthday today.
The troon that shot Kirk has "filings" which can literally say anything that say the bullet doesn't match.
And their number 1 enemy Kristy Noem's husband is an insane tranny.
You all are on fire today, like an ICE facility or a cyber truck.

>>1501879
>Its MAGA that are wrong
>And totally not the 80% of the world that is brown and engaged in perpetual rape and murder, because that would be using statistics to support a basis of fact, which would be silly

shills coping
reality is always painful for those morons

>>1501974
I know. He will never be a real woman.

>>1501896
Trump's FBI's entire case hinges on the father saying his kid did it (Loyalty to trump over his own flesh and blood) and the 'confession' text, which was clearly planted by a fed since they read like they were written by someone who's in the 60s.

>>1501958
Can't let facts get in the way of their delusions.
I mean, it's always been a given Kirk was offed by a by fellow rightiod.
If the shooter was even centrist, the entire conservatively biased media would be bringing it as a false equivalency for whatever the current crime trump and the republicans have committed.

>>1501998
This has been reported over and over that the family "turned him in", but it isn't entirely clear that's what actually happened. The family cooperated with police so he could turn himself in without getting killed on sight by police, which is not really the same thing at all.

There's a big question mark if anyone in the family gets called to testify. I bet they go with the text messages and bs forensics and avoid the family as witnesses.

>>1502049
The family is entirely MAGA, so the fact their kid was a Groyper fucking a trans was a bridge to far for them.
He jokes about doing it so they use that as the reason to get rid of them.
Conservatism is just that cut throat.

>>1502051
I mean if you have a mentally ill child who just killed a man for nothing there's not much more you can do.

>>1502052
They indoctrinated him with conservatism, of course he'd be mentally ill, but all signs point to him not actually killing Kirk.
So it just shows how awful conservative parenting is, again.

>>1502051
>>1502052
The family being willing to throw their son under the bus for being a tranny fucker is not relevant to whether or not he actually committed a crime; but it will certainly be used that way.

>>1502053
Israeli shills are going into overdrive trying to frame an American, for some reason

>>1502053
>Shoots Charlie K-urk
I think he was in a rebellion phase.

>>1502054
As opposed to letting him run around shooting milquetoast social media eCelebs until the cops execute him? I think the family made the right choice in his best interests.
There's not much more you can do once liggeralism rots the brain and turns into mental illness.

>>1502054
>>1502059
The problem is there's no actual proof, because any damage evidence clearly looks forged and the Republican controlled government have a clear track record of lying to the court.

>>1502063
>The problem is there's no actual proof
Behold, sharty troons final form.

Proof it was a conspiracy for Charlie to fake his death. He closed his eyes before succumbing to his faggotry of the so called gunshot so he can gtfo and become a new character.

>>1502059
I thought destroying the family was a communist idea

>>1502064
>Election tourist punching at ghosts again

>>1502063
Obviously, Charlies evil super fit neck muscles clearly changed the bullets shape .
That poor bullet was assaulted by right-wing, freakishly hard neck muscle.

>>1502051
>so the fact their kid was a Groyper
>if I keep pushing this lie eventually someone will believe me and stop calling him a leftist

>>1502181
Sup Ivan, he was a groyper, seethe harder

>>1502209
>he wrote gay shit on the bullets only a groyper would do that.
>he was also fucking a troon and shot a right wing celebrity, common groyper activities
At best he was unaligned, but he shows a lot of lefty beliefs.

>>1502328
>Everything he did was aligned with Groypers
>So this means he's left wing
The absolute cope of rightoids

>your honor, I move this evidence be excluded from the trial.
>basis?
>the evidence is very damaging to my client's case
He must have hired Jim Carrey as his attorney.

>>1502359
The strategy worked for trump

>>1502356
>The absolute cope of rightoids
They're also trying to claim loving transexuals is a left wing thing when we can clearly see on this board that obsession with transexuals is a right wing shill trait

>>1502365
That's a given since the leader of the Groypers, who openly hated private kirk was fucking a catboy.
Also you know it was a Groyper who did it since the instantly went 'we gotta calm things down'. That's the biggest red flag he knew one of his own did it and didn't want people demanding his head.

>>1502356
>>Everything he did was aligned with leftists
ftfy. I don't know any groypers that call other people fascist as a pejorative.

>>1502395
It was a Helldivers reference dumbass.

>>1502397
Yeah you tried using that excuse every time this subject gets brought up, and it never stops being bullshit. Stop reading Vanity Fair for your source of news.

>>1502395
Nah, he was a groyper. Also interesting self confession that you're fascist.

>>1501871
I knew it was a cover up!

>>1501887
>>1501878
classic left-wing tactic

>>1502475
you're projecting again, esl shill

>>1501878
This is essentially what is happening. The bullet fragmented and only some of the fragments were found. It's extremely hard to match a bullet to a barrel with only some fragments.

>>1502480
And? Having a rifle on a roof at campus isn't a crime. You need something

>>1502480
Batman did it and he's only one man. I'm sure the govt can do it too!

>>1502483
His literal confession seems like pretty good evidence

>>1502487
So its a 50/50 chance with the other guy who confessed, huh?

>>1501871
>did NOT match
>MAY not match
faggot

>>1502525
>Slur
Bigot. Expand your lexicon or stay a joke

>>1502487
>Figurative confession coming from his fringe right wing maget cult family
That's not going to hold up in court.

>>1502614
I don't think any confession without collaborating evidence holds up when the defendant pleads not guilty.

>>1502525
Yes you stupid retard. It did not match initial testing, and it may not match further testing. This was already explained itt

Filings also say he killed K-urk and confessed to it.

>>1502619
nta, I don't know why you're defending OP's slimy tactics

>>1502619
retard defends this clickbait

I too enjoy perching on roofs with my walking around rifle.
Man, it's a shame Kirk's neck just exploded.
It was probably localized spontaneous human combustion.
Shame they're attempting to put a totally conservative based bro in jail for it.

>>1502625
>>1502627
Why are you going on about this? There’s nothing wrong with the OP

>>1502488
>Weirdo who's confessed to multiple crimes for attention
VS
>Guy caught with a rifle that's the same calibur as the murder bullet
>Confessed to his roommate in texts messages after the shooting

>>1502692
Saying the bullet did not match is not true. They were unable to check for matches because the round fragmented. The headline makes it sound like they ruled out the rifle entirely, which is not the case at all.

>>1502959
>>Guy caught with a rifle that's the same calibur as the murder bullet
>>Confessed to his roommate in texts messages after the shooting
Neither of these things actually happened.

Specifically note the video of the guy (not necessarily the guy they arrested) jumping off the roof with no gun. What happened to it, and how did it end up in the woods after that?

CIA is running some real shitter assassination programs these days.

>>1503000
>Evidence that disagrees with my inane conspiracy isn't real

Okay, retard

>>1503473
So you're arguing he actually did have the gun with him when he jumped off the roof despite the video showing otherwise, or you're arguing that the text messages written by some boomer FBI agent was actually his, or both?

>>1503521
The text messages that are being used as evidence in his trial are real. He had stashed the gun and was arrested while trying to retrieve the firearm afterwards. You can continue to ignore everything that disagrees with you're own head canon, but the rest of us live in reality.