>>1503236
More woke generals sabotaging our Presidents operation. Great job weeding traitors out of our military, Secretary Hesgeth. This is what our military needed after 4 years of Briben and 8 years of Obongo.

>speak against fighting war on behalf of Israel
>get fired
MANY
SUCH
CASES

>>1503242
Iran has been at war with the US for 50 years. Most presidents were just too cowardly to do anything about it. Unfortunately for traitors and Iranians, President Trump isn't a coward.

>>1503244
I had this argument on /lit/ a year ago.
If I went over to Germany and killed some guy because his great-grandfather gunned down my grandfather in WWII, I'd be rightfully charged with murder and hanged.
Neocons are fucking retarded for trying to push 'muh blood guilt' and simultaneously pretending like they're supporting American interests.

>>1503248
Dumb fuck Iran has been arming proxies to kill Americans, random civilian shipping, and our regional allies consistently and without stopping for decades. October 7th? Houthis? Hamas? Hezbollah?

>Conservative News Network doesn't include that the reason Hengseth fired Geroge
It was becuase he refused to follow the orders to fire the qualified black and female generals since Hegseth only wants unqualified white guys like him.

>>1503256
>October 7th? Houthis? Hamas? Hezbollah?
I'm an American. I live in America. None of these things concerned me until Israel pissed off Iran.

>>1503248
I think the difference is there was regime change in Germany after 1945 and there was no regime change in Iran
I think a more apt comparison would be going to North Korea and killing some guy because a North Korean killed your grandfather in the Korean War. You would still be charged with murder by the Korean government, but it would be a regime in continuity of the regime that killed your ancestor

>>1503294
The argument was primarily about justifiable self-defense.
The reason why we don't have blood debts or kill people based on hypothetical threats in the US is because it's unjustifiable by any western liberal standard of justice. I cannot kill someone based on the things they've done to my ancestors in the past, or the things they may do in the future, only if they pose an immediate threat to my life.
This principle scales. I can't kill my neighbors base on past grievances for the same reason my country can't justifiably start bombing a foreign nation based on some shit they did X years ago. It's not self-defense at that point, just murder.

>>1503294
Trump literally fucking said yesterday that it’s a new regime in Iran. Is Trump incorrect?
I disagree with your premise too, for war to occur it has to be declared and Iran has not declared war on the US neither has the US declared war on Iran, so no there’s no war

>>1503294
North Korea literally IS still at war with the US they never signed a peace treaty only a ceasefire. You’re wrong about basically everything

>>1503312
War has to be declared by congress. They record everything, there’s no war with Iran.

>>1503312
Kinda pathetic that you'd desperately take our President blatantly out of context like that and twist his words to use against him in some kind of partisan gotcha attack.

>>1503256
Israel is not an ally of the US. You can look it up there is no alliance agreement or anything like that.
Hamas and Hezbollah have never targeted Americans, they only target Israelis in Palestine and whoever fucks around in South Lebanon respectively. The Houthis only targeted the US after the US joined Israel fighting the Houthis, and important to note the Houthis stated reason for attacking Israel was to prevent genocide

Al-Qaeda and ISIS target the US. Guess who funds them

>>1503244
I mean that's all well and good, but could he maybe try to display at least a modicum of competence then?
If this clusterfuck is what you'll get from a US president who isn't cowardly I think I'll take the coward, thank you very much.

>>1503320
Israel?

>>1503320
The Saudis?

>>1503320
United arab emirates, unironically.

>>1503242
>>1503240
>>1503236
god I love living under the soviet union circa 1982

i wish i could go back to living in America around that time where military leaders disclosing reality to mentally ill cultists didn't result in violent spitting, firings, and absolute upheaval in the pentagon in the middle of a war, but I was born too late to live in a sane society that valued the speech and opinion of experts, or anyone really, or just anybody with two eyes and a brain.

emulating all the worst parts of the soviet union is totally how i view a free society.

>>1503474
>Trump constantly sucks putin dick
>Now is openly emulating the dead empire putin pins for

>>1503244
>Iran has been at war with the US for 50 years.
Because we keep doing this shit, we've done this since the Shaw. We had options to de-escalate peacefully and each time we spit in their face because they're not the chosen ones that christcucks worship.

Khameni was the ONLY Iranian leader in two generations to come to the table, sit down, and say 'We're willing to work with you as long as Iran keeps its independence from the Petrodollar- Aaaaand he got airstruck. Ironically he got airstruck coming home from a meeting with the President about peace talks that would result in de-armament of their nuclear weapons. Now they'll never get rid of them, they're probably getting new ones shipped straight from Russia as we speak. Worse, they'll never re-open the straight anymore, that toll booth is now the greatest boon to Iranian GDP that they have had in a generation and it's paid for entirely by the Petrodollar.

Miggers like you bitched about the pallets of cash dropped into Iran as a bribe, but now you're living with the reality of ships having to pay thousands of times that just to use the most important straight for energy consumption in the known world. lol. lmao. they should build a gold statue of Bibi and Orange Retard in Tehran with how much money he's given them and how him and Bibi eliminated the only person who never thought to simply hold the world's energy reserves hostage. In comparison to this, storming embassies is for chumps.

>>1503484
The worst part is every fucking foreign policy advisor of any admin from the last four decades, including Trump's first one, could've warned this was what would happen. Literally every single president, INCLUDING TRUMP IN HIS FIRST TERM, avoided this fucking rake. But here comes Trump, hyped up on "WARRRRRIORS!" talk from Hegseth and the operation in Venezuela, armed with nothing but yes-men who wouldn't dare call one of his ideas absolutely braindead, eager to indeed step on that fucking rake and then being shocked when it promptly slams into his head.

>>1503490
I'm sure these firings are coming off the few people who were trying to get him to avoid the rake only for Turnip to indignantly turn around and scream "WHY DID YOU LET ME STEP ON THAT RAKE?!??"

>>1503492
Nah, I'm guessing these are more generals refusing to greenlight a ground operation. Aka the equivalent of being so mad at the rake you stepped on you then stomp on it and promptly experience physics again but even harder the second time.

>>1503493
>these are more generals refusing to greenlight using nuclear weapons*
ftfy

>>1503493
>>1503494
Either one to be honest. Equally possible stupidity, though I'll bet Trump would rather go with a ground invasion because then he can milk it with a "Dems don't want to support our troops on the ground!" even though he's already crashing and burning come midterms.

>>1503484
>>1503490
And don't forget, they can ask for payment in Yuan now to further undermine the dollar.
trump's war mongering has crippled america

>>1503490
>But here comes Trump, hyped up on "WARRRRRIORS!" talk from Hegseth and the operation in Venezuela, armed with nothing but yes-men who wouldn't dare call one of his ideas absolutely braindead, eager to indeed step on that fucking rake and then being shocked when it promptly slams into his head.

>Austria and Czechoslovakia was ezmode, let's go for Poland.
>WW2

>France stood no chance, let's attack Russia
>Operation Barbrossa

>China and Australia were easy, let's attack the United States
>Pacific War

>Nobody could stop us in Georgia and the Donbass, let's go for the rest of Ukraine.
>Current Russo-Ukraine shitshow

>Venezuela was easy, let's start some shit with Iran

Funny how it always rhymes with these personalities.

>>1503500
They always get that fuckin Homelander moment on their first big military success that makes them think they've got the momentum for the thing everyone warned them against.

>>1503500
I think the comparison the invasion of Ukraine is especially funny, because unlike the Russian Army, the US Army is absolutely dominating. Yet the absolute ceaselessness of the administration behind thew war is what causes it to be this disastrous clownshow

>>1503484
Not to mention how this war so far has allowed an even more radical military dictatorship to come into power. Also the gulf states now have a real strong incentive to rethink the pros and cons of being a US ally vs doing some appeasement towards Iran.
If they survive this, Iran will definitely be a long term strategy winner of this conflict.

>>1503484
Shut the fuck up, Khamenei was a mass-murdering cunt and he had it coming. This is a man who rose to prominence by organising the mass execution of thousands of prisoners shortly after the revolution and he never stopped.

>>1503516
>Shut the fuck up, Khamenei was a mass-murdering cunt and he had it coming
None of this changes the fact he was still the only one willing to actually do diplomacy with the US and we blew him up for it. You really think his replacement is not only going to be better in the human rights record regard, but that he'll ever do the same now that we've shown what happens when you even give a semblance of trust to the US?

>>1503236
Reports are he did this because he's scared of being replaced. We're really reaching the "actually competent people get removed because their superiors are too paranoid of them taking their jobs even though they themselves are terrible at their jobs" dying empire stage, huh?

>>1503516
>Shut the fuck up, Khamenei was a mass-murdering cunt and he had it coming.
And we're not? Bomb another school, Schlomo.

>>1503516
>This is a man who rose to prominence by organising the mass execution of thousands of prisoners shortly after the revolution and he never stopped.
And now his replacement won't just mass execute prisoners and protestors but also seamen trying to cross the strait without a loicense

gg ameribrainlet.

>>1503527
In fairness, if someone actually competent replaced Hegseth, he could get brought up on war crimes charges. This isn't just a paycheck these chucklefucks are worrying about.

>>1503550
Trump will blame and fire Hegseth for how badly this “war” is going. Trump will do his utmost to cover his own ass so he isn’t convicted of war crimes

>>1503552
Unlikely. Trump likes Hegseth since Hegseth is such a showboat and television personality. Hegseth is also extremely important to the evangelical base. They are the only group who have not peeled away from Trump. In fact, they are likely to only become more fanatical as things become worse. Finally, Hegseth is one of the biggest kiss ups to Trump. He's one of the people who are saying that Trump is like Jesus Christ reborn, is God's messenger, is here to prepare and lead the world through the End Times, etc. It's hard to get more ego stroking than that. What's more likely is that generals are continued to be fired and nukes get dropped on Iran. But Trump is erratic, so who knows.

>>1503558
Trump isn’t religious and he’s not a whacko evangelist. His base is MAGA which isn’t the same thing at all as the evangelicals, and even if he is trying to keep the evangelicals on his side they don’t have anyone else to support and what they may actually want Trump to do will not be what Trump is willing to do

>>1503590
Yes, that was Trump in the first term. Trump now He's dying, his brain is melting, he's egotistic, and he's talked about how he really wants to get into heaven. He's surrounded by religious people telling him how he is the hand of God if not Jesus Christ himself. Do the math.

>>1503592
You think Trump drank the kool-aid. Nah, he’s just using them all for votes to keep him in power so he can scrounge out more wealth through his corruption and maybe protect himself from the Epstein stuff if he did do something bad

>>1503595
>You think Trump drank the kool-aid.
nta but I think sometimes yes sometimes no. He's obviously sundowning at points so whether or not he genuinely believes it or is like "I can use this for free support!" literally varies by the day.

>>1503595
>Remember when I gave Iran ten days to MAKE A DEAL or OPEN UP THE HORMUZ STRAIT. Time is running out - 48 hours before all Hell will reign. Glory be to GOD
-DJT

>>1503604
>This time for real!

>>1503604
>>1503614
20 bucks on sunday he announces "Hmmm, negotiations again"

>>1503616
He only has 24 more days, then he needs to go to Congress for a formal declaration of war to continue any offensive operations. If they don't okay him, then the generals will be ordered to withdraw within 30 days. Of course, Congress might give it to him. Jeffries and especially "My number one priority is Israel" Schumer want war with Iran. Their main bugbear is how the war is being fought, not that it is being fought. It would obliterate the Democratic Party and lead to a Tea Party/Occupy moment, but I don't think Democratic leadership give a shit. This country is going down the toilet, and the rich never gave a fuck.

>>1503617
So he'll have 54 more days of fighting before declaring a new operation to open the Straight of Hormuz

>No More Wars
>*scribbles*
>No, More Wars!

Hilarious how leftists try to frame self defense as warmongering. They do the same to Russia

Hilarious how MAGAs try to frame warmongering as self-defense. They do the same as Russia.

>>1503620
>Self defense
In response to what did we bomb Iran for?

>>1503624
Israel threatened to release videos they got from Epstein, and Trump had to defend himself

>>1503623
It's important that we kill all the little Iranian school girls and annihilate all their civilian desalination and power plants for our self-defense and the liberation of the Iranian people, but not their oil, because that would be too mean.

But seriously, we've been hitting civilian crap like universities, schools, hospitals, etc. Why? Stated reasons are that this will compel the Iranians to rise up and demand their freedom from their tyrannical regime (laughable), compel their religious extremist regime to the negotiation table (doubly laughable), or because war crimes are based and redpilled and the laws of war are wokeshit like empathy (a favorite fascist talking point), and so on. With this admin, there are always 20 different messages coming out that their followers can pick and choose.

>>1503256
>regional allies
Ah yes the Jews. The most greatest of our allies

>>1503627
>But seriously, we've been hitting civilian crap like universities, schools, hospitals, etc. Why? Stated reasons are that this will compel the Iranians to rise up and demand their freedom from their tyrannical regime
I don’t even understand how that’s supposed to make sense.
>America blows up your house.
>”I’ll never forgive the Iranian government for this!”

>>1503624
50 years of Iran funding proxy forces to kill our troops and allies

>>1503650
>Guys we need to get back at them for shit they did decades ago
>This is totally worth kneecapping the entire oil industry and getting us into another middle eastern quagmire

>>1503650
>50 years ago
So, 1976 right? Can you list the proxies and at what date these proxies were founded and when they first attacked Americans or allies of America

>>1503661
Can you list the number of cocks you've had in your mouth?

>>1503663
Yes;

>>1503650
>>1503663
Amerisharts mental delusion, manifest

>>1503236
Seems to be either a "mitsubishi" where someone has to use code or point to a different thing to get the correct answer after the answer is rotated, or the group in power is bullshitting everyone and lying about everything.

Supposedly Delaware has gained control of the government for the past few years, and has sophisticated "mind-computing" methods.

>>1503652
And soon, they'll be saying it was worth launching nukes and kicking off WW3.

>>1503739
How does that start WW3? Also what determines WW3?

>>1503320
The CIA?

>>1503236
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/4/5/2376483/-Trump-is-preparing-for-a-coup
Points out that trump is using his war to purge any military official who refuses to follow his orders to commit war crimes, if that's the case, the replacement will, and will have no problems following his orders to stage a coup and shoot any Americans who side with the constitution against Trump's regime.

>>1503811
Thanks for posting a retarded conspiracy blog, faggot. Do the world a favor and KYS,

>>1503836
You sound really pissed over confirm it's the truth.
And do it yourself you pussy.

>>1503836
Trump did attempt a coup when he lost the presidency to Biden. It makes sense he’d try it a different way next time he’s ousted

>>1503836
He did post a retarded conspiracy blog so that does make him a faggot. Trump IS staging another coup attempt tho, remember when he tried on national television?

>>1503256
See all of that stuff happened to Israel, not America. So its not relevant to me.
Have you enlisted to go fight for Israel yet?