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Iran reportedly closes Strait of Hormuz as ceasefire agreement remains in peril
State media reports that the strait is now under a "complete closure" due to Israel continuing to bomb Lebanon.
https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/iran-war/strait-of-hormuz-reopens- but-us-remains-ready-for-combat
Iran’s state-run Fars News Agency reported Wednesday that the country is closing the Strait of Hormuz, less than a day after President Donald Trump announced a ceasefire agreement with Iran.
Fars said tanker traffic would come to a “complete stop,” citing what it described as Israeli violations of the ceasefire, including attacks in Lebanon. Israel has said it will continue operations in Lebanon, arguing it was not part of the agreement, a claim disputed by Iran.
The report said two ships were allowed to pass through the strait before Iran reversed course.
In response to the report, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said, "The immediate reopening of the strait without any limitations, whether it is in the form of or otherwise."
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While U.S. officials have largely described the military offensive against Iran as a success, Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz has become a point of frustration for the Trump administration. The country’s ability to keep oil tankers from passing through the strait pushed global oil prices higher. Gas and diesel prices in the United States and abroad rose in response.
About one-fifth of the world’s oil production passes through the Strait of Hormuz.
Questions remain about the future of the strait and the broader conflict as bombings have continued across the region.
Before the latest closure of the strait, officials told The Associated Press that Iran and Oman plan to charge a toll for tankers passing through the waterway. Previously, it was considered international and not subject to tolls.
If the cease-fire holds, there are questions about how much stronger Iran could become as it collects tolls.
The U.S. has said the agreement means Iran will not be able to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon. But allies in the region remain concerned about Iran’s conventional weapons and drone capabilities.
“We hope Iran chooses a lasting peace, but as Secretary Hegseth said, let us be clear: a cease-fire is a pause, and the joint force remains ready, if ordered, to resume combat operations with the same speed and precision we’ve demonstrated over the last 38 days. We hope that is not the case,” Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Wednesday.
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>>1504536
Militarily we're undefeated, but like almost every war past WW2, we'll lose it strategically because our goals are fucking impossible to achieve. I did not expect us to be losing so hard on the PR front either, but here we are. It'll also put us on bad footing if we need to shake the big stick at any potential future adversaries.
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>>1504540
No, militarily we won. No navy, no air force, leaders dead. That's a military victory. Clear, decisive, devastating. We hit em so hard they begged for a ceasefire and 2 week break. That is fucking winning. Most true non-MSM reports state that the reason the ceasefire APPEARS to have broken is because we fractured their command and control so completely that they can't even communicate with each other and rogue elements are fighting on despite the regimes orders. I expect Fridays peace talks to end the war and if what Trump said is true, about the US and Iran splitting tolls for the strait, than both countries have just won in a huge way. 5d diplomatic geopolitical chess is just kinda Trump's speciality lmao.
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>>1504552
>about the US and Iran splitting tolls for the strait, than both countries have just won in a huge way
lmao no way they ever fucking agree to that. You're literally giving away your leverage if you let the US do half of it.
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>>1504567
>make money on oil futures
To reiterate, these are not "our" goals. These are Trump's goals. He uses the U.S. government as his own piggy bank and gives no fuck about the rest of us paying $6 a gallon so Kushner can pad out his investment fund portfolio.
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>>1504552
what did we win? what was the prize?
>they begged for a ceasefire and 2 week break
you know not many days ago trump claimed he negotiated some big deal with iran and iran said they didnt even talk to him. the biggest mouthpiece of fake news is always fake news with his fake claims and fake Fox and fake Twitter site.
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>>1504571
No, him and the rest of the epstenites are totally trying to crash the world so they can sell the scraps/buy up everything on the cheap, or at least, they don't care that their actions are leading towards that.
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Venezuela lowered the price of oil while adding stability to that country, which trump said he is now running but we haven't heard a thing on that in like 2 months. this Iran conflict is not a war, despite him saying we are winning the war, to stop them from creating a nuclear bomb, which he said last june was 'obliterated'. Iran basically ignores him when it comes to demands, the straight is fucked and closed, oil prices are fucked, and that's the only outcome so far. More excellent work from the GOP.
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>>1504573
Oil prices lowered after kidnapping President Maduro because the US lifted sanctions against Venezuela which increased global oil supply.
The strait is closed again because the Israelis ignored the ceasefire.
If Israel aren’t part of the ceasefire ok so let’s make that clear so Iran can add to the demands that the US may not assist Israel militarily. That means no American military operating THAAD, no Americans refuelling Israeli aircraft, maybe no more arms sales or supply from the US to Israel.
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>>1504569
Actually trump was on his knees begging Iran for a cease fire since they were completely destroying him on the economic front.
https://newrepublic.com/post/208815/trump-asked-iran-ceasefire
So anyone trying to spin this otherwise is a glownig.
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>>1504615
If you come stand outside my house and start throwing bricks and rocks at my walls and windows and then threaten that if I don’t let you come in and rape my children and steal my food and break my toilet, that you will set fire to my house, I am within my rights to shoot you right there in the driveway
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>>1504620
Funny coming from the group that intentionally bombed a school full of little girls and openly declared their intentions to commit war crimes.
That would have been the perfect opportunity to see up the Nuremberg Trials 2.0.
But fortunately trump was so desperate for a cease fire, he caved to the Iranian's demands.
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>>1504612
The whole thing of Turnip having to go "I'LL NOOOOK UUUUUUU" will be remembered in the history books of the moment the USA empire completely fell. Soviet Union era terror tactics because a stable genius is starting to sundown.
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>>1504652
The charges are already filed retard. What you think can’t happen is some arrests, and you’re wrong about that. The Americans kidnapping the President of Venezuela and charging him is enough of an example for anyone else to do it. There’s also the possibility of losing a war by conquest like Saddam Hussein