Orban, a eurosceptic, carved out a model of an "illiberal democracy" seen as a blueprint by Trump's Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement and its admirers in Europe.
But many Hungarians have grown increasingly weary of Orban, 62, after three years of economic stagnation and soaring living costs as well as reports of oligarchs close to the government amassing more wealth.
Tisza's leader Magyar appears to have successfully tapped into this frustration.
Casting his vote for Tisza in the Hungarian capital, Mihaly Bacsi, 27, said the country needed change.
"We need an improvement in public mood, there is too much tension in many areas and the current government only fuels these sentiments," he said.
Another voter, who gave her name as Zsuzsa, said she wanted continuity.
"I would really like if all the results that have been achieved in recent years remain - and I am terribly afraid of the war," she said, referring to the conflict raging in Ukraine, Hungary's eastern neighbour.
Orban sought to cast Sunday's election as a choice between "war and peace". During campaigning, the government blanketed the country with signs warning that Magyar would drag Hungary into Russia's war with Ukraine, something he strongly denies.

Imagine shilling for Putin in a European country.

>support Trump
>lose election
pottery

>>1505734
>Hungary's Viktor Orbàn concedes landmark defeat
I'll be pleasantly surprised if he actually just leaves power without stirring some shit.
There's still the chance of him coming back in the future, but let's hope it won't come to that. Also the opposition party will most likely get over 133 seats in parliament, which means they can change legislation by themselves.

>>1505738
>Interact with JD Vance
>Misfortune falls upon you
Why aren't we sending him to our enemies so they slip and break their backs or some shit?

>>1505743
>Also the opposition party will most likely get over 133 seats in parliament
Holy fuck, that was in serious doubt. The far right actually got blown the fuck out, huh?

>>1505745
>Why aren't we sending him to our enemies
We are. Right now in fact.

Are we sure Vance isn't an Etsy witch?

RUSSIA LOSES ANOTHER PAWN

PUTIN WILL BE REMEMBERED AS THE MAN WHO DESTROYED RUSSIAN GLOBAL POWER PROJECTION FOR GENERATIONS TO COME

I'm more shocked that Orban conceded. But he must be the more old school authoritarian that just would rather slink off to the sunset. As opposed to trump who can and will stage a coup.

>>1505750
In the span of a week, JD Vance
>Was supposed to help Orban get reelected: Failed so miserably his party literally got BTFOed by a supermajority
>Was supposed to negotiate with Iran: Failed so miserably negotiations fell apart completely and now Trump is threatening to blockade the Strait himself as he struggles to figure out what to do
>Was supposed to become the new fraud czar: Failed immediately because he instantly tried to shill his own shitty book

>>1505757
probably realized that losing by that much of a supermajority would just get him locked up frame 1 for trying a coup like that South Korean president last year.

>>1505753
Well he fucked that up for us. We need to send him to campaign for political figures we DON'T want in power.

>>1505757
Orban can now retire to the countryside and raise chickens, grow his own vegetables, fishing whenever he wants to, and breed Vizslas. He had a good run

>>1505762
lmao no. He probably has an impending corruption trial that'll send him to a jail cell for the remainder of his life.

>>1505758
What was he saying about not allowing his wife to go skydiving?

>>1505738
In this case it's
>support Putin
>lose election

>>1505764
some bullshit metaphor he was trying to use to say why Iran shouldn't do what the US doesn't want them to do. Didn't work at all considering talks fell apart seemingly the moment he stepped through the door.

>>1505766
Assuming he was saying Iran is the wife in this metaphor. Bit rude

>>1505734
>russia and usa losing influence and support faster than you can say china will grow larger
What is it with despots going full retard this decade?

>>1505771
They always burn themselves out.

>>1505767
Here's the full quote:
>The second thing Ghalibaf said, which, again, I found fascinating, is he said, ‘We refuse to give up the right to enrichment.’ And I thought to myself, You know what? My wife has the right to skydive, but she doesn’t jump out of an airplane because she and I have an agreement that she’s not going to do that, because I don’t want my wife jumping out of an airplane. We don’t really concern ourselves with what they claim they have the right to do. We concern ourselves with what they actually do. And I think the President has been very clear on the enrichment question, our position on that has not changed.
So yeah, Iran is his wife in this metaphor, and it's a pretty fucking stupid metaphor regardless. As far as I understand it, he's basically saying "uh, we aren't going to give you the right to enrich uranium because we don't want you actually doing it."

>>1505760
>>1505753
>>1505745
It's less our enemies and more, the opposite of what conservatives want.

>>1505771
Putin was always going to keep invading the neighbours.

Trump is just a fucking idiot, all he had to do was tell the Zionists to stop murdering civilians otherwise we cut your funding and stay the fuck out of everything else over there and rein in the ICE bullshit just basically chill out a bit and he could still get away with the Venezuela stuff and all the crypto stuff and build his fucking ballroom and all that other arc of triumph shit. Instead he has threatened to invade Canada and Greenland and now has no allies

>>1505777
But if he tries to stop his wife by beating her she drugs him and cuts his balls off

>>1505759
Honestly depends on how much of the military he controls. The South Korean coup failed because he had zero military support so they just showed up and did nothing when the legislators and people fought back and it instantly collapsed.
trump on the other hand has his entire brown shirt paramilitary group of ICE and has been using his dunkard to purge the military of anyone who is not directly loyal to him, plus there's the issue of the military being inundated with white supremacists.
Also Republicans will defend trump to the last man given they still defended him after his first coup.

>>1505780
The ballroom shit is the craziest one to me.
>sir maybe we should save some of our political capital since we're pretty unpopular and we're staring down a democrat house

>I WANT STATUES AND A BIG ARCH AND GOLD BUSTS AND NAME EVERY BODY OF WATER THE TRUMP TRIBUTARY AND-
this is the thing people in 2016 said he was going to do and didn't end up doing, only now finally starting to do it

>>1505783
This cuts both ways, purging the military of everyone not loyal to you just means the people who aren't loyal to you lay low and wait for you to be at your weakest.

>>1505780
>all he had to do was tell the Zionists to stop murdering civilians
Woah cool it with the antisemitism

https://vtr.valasztas.hu/ogy2026?filter=orszagos
Current results.
This was a total wipe out for Orban since the opposition now has a super majority.

>>1505786
Hard to say there's anyone left, also there's the issue of the rank and file just following trump's order for a coup given you already the blackhawks in Tennessee that buzzed peaceful protestors, I wouldn't be shocked if it was an exercise to target them in case trump does stage a coup.

>>1505790
>trumps gross incompetence just cost Putin another supporter
How do you think he is feeling right now

>>1505783
I don't think the navy are following Trump's orders for the most part. They refused to go closer than 350 when they were told to get right in there because they don't want to charge of the light brigade themselves into history

How do we know the election wasn't stolen? Leftists are always stealing elections.

>>1505796
The party favoured by the US government lost though

>>1505796
>pedophile announces he's mad conservatives failed to steal the elections.

>>1505797
Also this, look at all the elections the US and heritage foundation rigged. Especially Argentina.

>>1505780
>Trump is just a fucking idiot, all he had to do was tell the Zionists to stop murdering civilians
Why the fuck do you think Evangelicals voted for Trump, lmao?

>rein in the ICE
Why the fuck do you think Republicans voted for Trump, lmao?

>>1505796
>Leftists are always stealing elections.
Neither party is leftist.

>>1505784
He should never have been president

>>1505784
>how dare the President build things

>>1505784
This is basically what trump wants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY

The only answer is to destroy or rename everything with his name on it and punish those who defend it.

>>1505801
Euromutts don't have a real right wing party. You got commies on one side and Democrats on the other.

>>1505807
What has he built? Also, yes, monuments are a waste of money.

>>1505814
>Pedophile admitting he's a fascist and anything that remotely helps the people is communism

>>1505817
Actually private companies who want preferential tariff deals will front the bill and materials. You people are so fucking retarded we're making so much money off tariffs we're literally being given free gifts and tribute by foreign subjects. Its Roman emperior-tier winning and you're too propagandized by the MSM to realize it

>>1505823
god you're esl

>>1505814
Orban is far right, Magyar is center-right.
You have to be a radicalize lunatic to think otherwise.

>>1505823
>corruption is le good

>>1505823
>our real friends were the Muslims we hated along the way

>>1505823
If all that shit actually went to helping the people instead of building a ballroom and other stupid shit sure you would be right but currently we are getting nothing but increased prices on everything.

>>1505814
>Euromutts don't have a real right wing party
Good.
Rightards don't have a right to any political power whatsoever.
>Butthurt Viktor Sorbum
Your so-called 'Strong Man' of eastern Europe is gone. Magyar is pro-EU. Starmer congratulated him just now.
When Nigey is (Un)Reform(ed) by losing to the Green Party, and is FaRAGING at 'Voter Fraud' that never happened, the right is failing. Good.

>>1505807
it will never get built that fat yid will just run away with the money

>>1505823
>Can't even use domestic material to build his vanity projects
Amazing how the conservatively controlled media just let this one go.

>>1505833
>Trump is so shit he killed the entire anti-EU faction of the EU by association
lmao you love to see it.

>>1505823
lol. ok where’s my tariff check, migatard?

>>1505839
The anti-EU faction was destined to fail ever since Brexit nuked Britain's economy

>>1505841
True but it really does look like Trump trying to keep Orban in power just fucked him over. Combined with the right-wing in Canada instantly losing a massive chunk of voters right after he came in, it really does seem like he's so bad at his job he's making the entire far-right look less appealing worldwide.

>>1505839
>Trump is so shit he killed the entire anti-EU faction of the EU by association
>lmao you love to see it.
The MAGAtards visualized - via AI slop - Trump as the Emperor of Mankind. Well, that has blown up in their faces. Even as a supposedly all-powerful 'god' after early last year, he's now weakened after a war and is on a chair.
And according to WH40K, the Golden Throne is already failing.

>>1505750
>The far right actually got blown the fuck out, huh?
Orban started as far left.
He really only stands for gaining power and wealth.

>>1505757
>I'm more shocked that Orban conceded
I think everyone is but those numbers are hard to argue with and an actual coup inside the EU has near zero chance of success.
I'm sure there's been some discussion behind closed doors about if Magyar finds polonium in his tea.

>>1505807
I'm not going to lie
I think building statues and shit of himself and naming buildings and bodies of water after himself is actually kind of based .

It's the kind of thing you would see cartoon characters do to illustrate how vain and stupid they are.

It's not particularly smart, definitely not, but it is based. It's the kind of thing I would picture Bevis and Butthead doing. Nah I take that back they would make everything a dick or a sex joke. Maybe some equally out-of-touch cartoon character like Dr Robotnik

>>1505823
>Actually private companies who want preferential tariff deals will front the bill and materials.
Based.
Legalized bribery is another thing that a ridiculous cartoon character would do

>>1505771
>What is it with despots going full retard this decade?
Just this decade?

Despotism is inherently stupid, it's just a bad choice all round.
Such people will always fuck up when the stakes are raised and the pressure is on.

>>1505792
>>trumps gross incompetence just cost Putin another supporter
It had nothing to do with Trump, one way or another.

It was a defector from Orban's party who rallied and united a very chaotic opposition and hammered away at Orban for three years straight.

>>1505850
>>1505771
this.
This is why dictatorships are almost universally failed shitholes that never accomplish anything other than assisting millions to people to state-sanctioned suicide. Dictators, especially the egotistical fragile ones, break down and cower when they suddenly aren't the most powerful person in the room holding all the cards. It's why Saddam immediately went and hid inside of a hole in the ground while all of his officers and heads of state were trying to quell rebellion and fight a war they ultimately lost.

I'm sure once the impeachments start rolling in, Trump already has a little Trump-sized hidey-hole under Mar-A-Largo that he'll cower in from the music.

>>1505796
>Leftists are always stealing elections.
Orban is technically a leftist, in practice he doesn't really stand for anything except fucking shit up.

>>1505853
This, he was teh funny doomer meme vote and that's why he won the first time.

Oh well, Orban is Or-gone, and all Trump can do is seethe and hope Orban claims it was due to mail-in voter fraud because he actually won a landslide with 80 million votes or something.
But hey, it's not like Trump doesn't have good relations with other European coun- Oh wait.

>>1505734
Why would someone concede an election based on only 46% of votes being counted?

Elections in dictatorships are rigged and stolen routinely. What was different this time?

>>1505857
EU and EU-adjacent countries don't go full dictator, they go corrupt democracy instead.
It's harder to justify harsh measures against.

The downside is that it's possible to overthrow you if you become enough and the propaganda stops working.

>>1505796
Well. Let's look at turnout in the past 30 years at 1pm for comparison:

1998: 32,58%

2002: 40,19%

2006: 38,22%

2010: 35,88%

2014: 34,33%

2018: 42,32%

2022: 40,01%

2026: 54,14%

Look at those numbers. Yes. Obviously they cheated. The left stole the election, again. Such a dramatic increase can only mean one thing, faked votes. There needs to be an audit. Check it dead people voted, check if immigrants voted, check fucking everything or democracy dies in darkness.

>>1505847
I guess I'm too used to the amount of shit trump will claim to cope about losing.

>>1505870
first let's check your hard drive

>>1505870
>Guys more people voted during a time of great geopolitical turmoil
>Obviously this means they must be cheating!

>>1505870
lol yeah nothing at all in world politics has been happening since 2022 that could swing voters against rightoids. migatard iq on full display again.

The moral of the story is once you seize power, you need to arrest your political opponents and jail them indefinitely.

>>1505875
Trump is trying to do that, the problem is he's a total retard and everyone he tries to prosecute is getting acquitted

>>1505875
the moral of the story is democracy is fragile but beautiful because we can elect corrupt autocrats into power but you always have an opportunity to send them packing. But it requires an educated populace who can recognize and do so before the rot becomes permanent

>>1505871
>I guess I'm too used to the amount of shit trump will claim to cope about losing
Orban is corrupt but not stupid or mentally ill.
Well, maybe a psychopath but not an irrational one.

>>1505875
>once you seize power, you need to arrest your political opponents and jail them indefinitely.
That doesn't work in the EU, there are courts you can't control.

They did everything else to fuck with the opposition though, which is why it took years and multiple parties were suppressed and died off before someone rallied enough opposition.

>Starmergeddon with a 400+ seat majority destroying the Conservatives in UK on 4th July 2024
>a supermajority in Hungary in April 2026
What's happened in US between then & now with elections here.
The omens aren't looking good for the GOP in the midterms, certainly 2028. Total MAGA Death sooner or later is inevitable.

>>1505882
>Beautiful
All democracies are brown, full of brown skinned people.
>Corrupt
>Autocrat
You just described the leftists. Orban was fighting the corrupt autocrats.

>>1505910
nobody can hear you esl shill, you need to take the dick out of your mouth

>>1505906
Problem is red voters are fairly concentrated in red states and red states themselves are fairly gerrymandered.

If we're fucking lucky though, we might start to see some dummymanders and with the new practice of redrawing district lines whenever it is convenient we could finally see some red states turned purple with blue legislatures and reps from now on.

Texas is the big one, though I'm not holding my breath. I'll definitely love to see Wisconsin's legislature finally unfucked. That's inevitable at this point.

>>1505757
The stakes for unpopular authoritarians in Europe are historically high.

>>1505911
>esl shill
Pretty sure they're just trolling.

>All democracies are brown
See?

>>1505914
Texas will forever be fools gold for democrats unless they pass national legislation to bust up all the gerrymadners

>>1505918
>national legislation to bust up all the gerrymadners
Isn't there current jurisprudence from the supremes that gerrymandering is a state's own business?

>>1505920
That's why you bust up the republican supreme court and undo all their republican edicts first.

>>1505921
>bust up the republican supreme court
Needs 2/3s senate majority to impeach, right?
Or a president with a simple majority to stack it.

>>1505922
>Or a president with a simple majority to stack it.
Pretty much this. We need to ditch the filibuster, pack the courts, then push through anti-corruption reforms like against gerrymandering as well as statehood for Puerto Rico and DC and hold onto power long enough for the political middle to drift out of range of Republicans since if they get power again with the filibuster gone, they'll just reverse everything before it can take effect and go even further right than the current shitshow.

Problem is, that'd require Dems with a spine and probably at least 4 years of holding all 3 branches and the dipshit middle of this country are goldfish that love going against the party in power if they haven't brought about utopia 6 months after being elected in.

>>1505922
Who says you need to impeach?
>Nuke Filibuster
>Add 4 seats to better represent the make up of the American people
>And an enforcing ethic codes with criminal prosecution. (Which you can immediately use to remove Alito and Thomas for their corrupt dealings)
>Also adding a 18 year term limits where each president gets to select 3 justices.

>>1505926
Did you read the second unquoted sentence of my post?

>>1505927
Point out the entire process of how to do it and how to weaken the republican old given a 2/3rds majority isn't going to happen unless democrats play super hard ball. (Start programs to get liberals to move into sparely populated republicans states to take their senators, break up California into 5 states, but have it so that democrats control all of them so they go from 2 to 10 senates, and grant both DC and Puerto Rico statehood and their own senators.

>>1505870
There is nothing wrong with your voting. Do not attempt to adjust the poll. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it lefter we will bring up the socialists. If we wish to make it centre, we will tune in the libtards. We will control the left. We will control the right. We can roll the politicians, make them stutter.We can change the political focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the rest of your life, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: There is nothing wrong with your voting.You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... Socialist Utopia!!!!

>>1505918
Carter became president due to a blue Texas
>gerrymadners
>mad
>and >>1505918 is mad because she'll never be a man
>>1505910
Hi esl shill that thinks it's so strong
Become weak by facts proving you wrong
White Starmer beat Sunak the Conservative jeet
This destroys your opinion, that's neat

>>1505933
N'YUCK N'YUCK

>>1505933
That was also before the Southern strategy was completed by Reagan so the deep south racists are a solid block of republicans.

>>1505933
YWNBAWP

What time is it in East Asia?

>>1505936
Oopsy, I meant South Asia

>>1505936
>>1505937
Around quarter past failure for you & your posts

I didn't even realize trump tried to openly interfere in the Hungarian election like he bribed the Argentinians
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-economic-support-viktor-orban-hungarian-election/

He lost because Rob Schneider campaigned for him

>>1506179
>Rob Schneider
It's amazing how this guy was a one hit wonder on SNL, then only survived ridding on the coat tails of everyone else. No wonder he's a MIGA.

>>1505944
rightwing billionaires are like:
>i care so much about mass migration. western civilization itself is at stake. i will spare no expense. wait an election didn’t turn out how i wanted, never mind

>>1505734
Oh cool his replacement just revealed Orban was actually funding CPAC with Hungarian government funds, and likely under Putin's influence too. Wonder if this is a house of cards about to come tumbling down.

>>1506247
What’s CPAC?

>>1506248
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Political_Action_Conference
Big right-wing political event. The fact they were receiving Hungarian taxpayer dollars and then campaigned for Orban means they violated the fuck out of financial laws in Hungary.

>>1506249
Orban should GTFO now before they arrest him

>>1506250
>Orban should GTFO now before they arrest him
He's got about two months before the new government is in.
Péter Magyar was a senior Fidesz official for ages, he joined when they were in opposition. He knows a lot of dirt (he already brought down a president and his ex-wife the minister of justice) and he doesn't have access to government files (again) yet so he's leaking this now for some other reason.
Possibly just a way of telling Orban to fuck off to Moscow.

The whole saga is hilarious to me because it's literally a divorce case that turned so bad it brought down an authoritarian hybrid regime.

>>1505765
Same thing

>>1506248
>>1506249
It's not only a big right-wing political event. It's THE right wing political event for Americans where anyone trying to get in with the right wing and republicans go to it.. Also don't forget the Heritage Foundation, the group behind Project 2025, is also deep in bed with Orban as well. I wouldn't be surprised if you could make the case they have to register as a foreign agent depending on what comes out if CPAC was already implicated.

>>1506269
Depending on how much of it was funded by Orban, CPAC might be in trouble here too. Accepting foreign money as a political campaign/party/event is extremely fucking illegal.

>>1506264
I feel like it’s probably gonna be a lot more complicated than that. There’s no way he didn’t pack the courts with loyalists that will also need to be purged

Reeks of fake news lawfare. Where is the proof?

>>1506323
>There’s no way he didn’t pack the courts with loyalists that will also need to be purged
European Public Prosecutor's Office ^_^
He has 138 seats (at least) and 135 is the threshold, so purges can be done constitutionally. The president can be removed without impeachment that way and probably will if he doesn't resign or leave Fidesz.

1506420 reeks of vindaloo. Where's the proof 1506420 isn't?

>>1505833
In what way is the right failing good for Western Europe? If anything, Hungary was the last bastion against globalism.

>>1506444
>Hungary was the last bastion against civilisation
FTFY
Zigger puppets are falling left and right, at the hands of the left and the right.

>In what way is the right failing good for Western Europe?
Just the mere fact that the right fails is good,
>Hungary was the last bastion against globalism
And now the right's opinions being proven to be eternally wrong proves that their so-called 'alternative' to globalism never had the right to exist in the first place. Good
Long Live Leftism. And as Australia, Canada, UK now Hungary have demonstrated - by the will of the people - Trump has ensured that.
>b-b-but you must think as I do!
Facts don't care about your feelings, rightards.