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Europeans are not "blocking" US supersized pick up trucks, they are for sale here. We do not buy them because of three reasons.
1 - They are poorly made
2 - They are unreliable
3 - They are stupid
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>supersized
You forgot that bit.
A regular Toyota crewcab is a bit large if you want to take it to the store.
In its place they may be perfectly good, for most of Europe they're a bit like driving a rental truck every day.
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>>28907878
One of these with mud grips on it.
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>>28907856
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euros don't buy pickup trucks because pickup trucks are for land owners and euros are serfs.
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>>28907898
>Land owners
>90% of all wealth in the US is owned by 1% (Jews)
Lol
Lmao
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>>28907856
Your streets tend to be narrow designed for much smaller vehicles or carriages long ago. Probably just not practical for the location.
US pickup trucks were made to be reliable over a decade or so ago, would run for 200K miles with basic oil change maintenance, but now they are not.
EPA regulations caused them to be increased in size to be classed outside of tighter fuel economy standards. Then came the choking exhaust and emissions systems. Finally, they tried using smaller turbo engines on these large vehicles while using very thin viscosity engine oils to meet regulations, and reliability went to complete garbage, even with trusted brands like Toyota. Politicians and legislature inflated sizes while killing reliability.
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>>28907898
>euros don't buy pickup trucks because pickup trucks are for land owners and euros are serfs
Home ownership rates in the US: 65,7%
Home ownership rates in Spain: 73,6%
Home ownership rates in Italy: 75,1%
Home ownership rates in Netherlands: 68,8%
Home ownership rates in Poland: 87,2%
Home ownership rates in Czechia: 75,1%
Home ownership rates in Romania: 93,2%
Home ownership rates in Lithuania: 88,8%
go kys
The simple fact is that they are not practical for small European roads and parking lots.
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>>28909748
every land owner has a tractor and the weight limit for a traktor is high. Tractor trailers cant be towed by car. Tractors cost next to no tax, while a v8 pickup has the highest tax rates. The use case for a 3.5t limited pickup is almost nonexistant.
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>>28909748
> The simple fact is that they are not practical for small European roads and parking lots.
This
It’s the same reason literally everywhere in the US is wheelchair accessible while Europe is notoriously not so, 90 percent of the US was completely uninhabited until the 20th century
People forget that the Wild West was literally the last 19/early 20th century, it was barely 100 years ago while for instance the pantheon in Italy is 2000 years old
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>>28907914
>laughs in w124's
>>28907925
>Your streets tend to be narrow designed for much smaller vehicles or carriages long ago. Probably just not practical for the location.
Narrow streets aren't some immutable characteristic that a country has like mountains and coastlines, It's just a matter of government policy. After the war plenty of cities were rebuilt with wide multi lane roads everywhere only for those roads to be narrowed or torn down completely later on.
You're 100% right about regulations though. That + cheap abundant oil + "bigger = better" mentality is why big pickups are so much popular in the US.
>>28910043
Your cardboard mcmansions aren't real houses either anon.
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>>28910043
NTA but I found this. As with everything it depends on where You live. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/housing-202 4
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>>28907856
>he's alone on a saturday posting cope about americans and their big scary trucks
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>nobody:
>Nobody at all:
>Europeans:
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>>28907856
europe has such a thing called weather, and we've long deduced that the best way to protect cargo from weather is a van
americans sometimes have weather too but their brains are corn syrup and they keep going "how could this happen to me?" when they wak up to a drivable bathtub
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>>28911218
They're awesome for landscape gardeners and people that dismantle trees.
No, wait...
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>>28911225
you know, we don't have many of these, because we aren't much into this terraforming thing americans are obsessed with
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>>28911287
https://youtu.be/e3gS_xB4xks
Just because.
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>>28911287
>We don't control our yards in GERMANY
>Why do you care what your yard looks like?
>Why do you have people whose job it is to plant trees?
>We don't do that IN GERMANY
Well we're not obsessed with invading Poland or unrestricted submarine warfare, Klaus. We still won both wars, so we get to do what we want to our yards.
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>>28910055
>it's okay when we do it
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>>28910043
>STOP THE COUNT STOP THE COUNT IT DON'T COUNT
Make better utility vehicles if you want us to buy them.
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>>28911207
Germany used to put at least 10-15% of their GDP into their own military. Up to 75% at the height of the world wars.
That's why they have nice healthcare and social welfare systems now. Just like the rest of Europe who don't run their countries like they used to. They've depended on the US for half a century. It's an odd thing how they're fairly intelligent, but have this huge blindspot.
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I don't know bro, my poor as fuck Eastern European shithole puts the F-150 front and center on the official dealer page, as far as I know all the other countries focus on the e-slop and cuckovers.
https://ford.inchcape.lv
Dodge RAMs are a relatively common sight.
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>>28910043
still beats this shit here:
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They are not very practical in Europe.
If you need a truck bed for business, you basically buy pic related, if not you get a closed car/van. Most of Europe is more northerly than most of the US - Rome is at the same latitude as New York.
Using them as a daily is also a hassle as many public parkings and garages are too small.
My brother in law has a Nissan Navarro for tax reasons, but it's an impractical and uncomfortable car compared to the Renault luxury sedan/minivan he had before.
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>>28911974
But mah truuk. ;)
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The reason why truggs are so rare in Europe is that they foresaw the "commercial vehicle" loophole coming from a mile away and moved to plug that. A half ton gasser makes little sense because it doesn't get any burgerican style special treatment, instead its sheer size and fuel economy throws it in the same tax bracket as a big luxury SUV which makes it way less attractive. 3/4 and full ton truggs are relatively more common as their gross weight allows you to register them as proper light trucks which is much more economical, but that comes with its own set of intentional annoyances to discourage casual ownership and you mostly see them with either diehards or people who actually have a business case for one.
Whining about a "ban" is basically insisting that European countries need to rewrite their laws to give massive breaks to a specific uncommon class of vehicle to appease foreign manufacturers.
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>>28912006
I had a college friend that rolled like pic.
More tools than straw but you get the idea.
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>>28911974
what you posted is basicly as big as most american pickups and they fit in every eu street or parking garage. i been tradie all my life and driven nothing but transporters, sprinters, hiace, transit...the myth that american trucks dont fit in europe comes from american drivers, they get shit scared when they come here. they can barely maneuver a rental fiesta through a city. meanwhile we got buses, dump trucks and whats not driving through here.
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I want to clobber amerimutts. You killed this world.
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>>28911207
Mostly why I ignore them. I'm just going to drive my pickup around. (something close is pictured below given I don't trust cameras and smartphones)
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>>28912172
that looks like a ford9" front axle and they dont exist, ford used dana 35, 44, 50 and 60 front axles. but is commonly made for offroad using d60 outers. is your pickup 4x4 or not? bet you didnt expepct an euro to know this.
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>>28907856
europeepee's can't afford to operate pickups, shrimple as
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>>28912399
It is an F100. 4x4? Yes I need it when I haul hogs. As I said I don't take pictures so it ain't my truck, just looks similar. I knew reading wasn't common over across the sea but I guess it outta be hammered home sometimes.
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>>28907856
us trucks are fine on european rural roads
problems begin when you try to park in city/at mall
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>>28907937
>but forgot that you're an idiot?
>we're you trying
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>>28912014
Driving and parking a land barge in Euro cities is absolutely doable but is incredibly annoying, especially in packed parking lots.
t. pic rel
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>>28912881
and it isnt elsewhere? i got a huge respect for italian and spanish bus drivers. been on holidays there and they dive straight into the smalles road or town square with their fuckhuge tourist buses, and then they back out again for a km or so. the point is, its a skill issue.
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>>28911287
>some urban bug communist pretending europe doesn't have suburbs
literally mental retardation
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>>28913089
This.
There are only a few use cases.
Maybe if someone operates a hut up in the mountains where he needs both carrying capacity and basic off-road capabilities.
If he only needs the former, a van is the better choice, if only the latter a 4x4 SUV is better.
There are even a few fiscal advantages of having a truck or van instead of a SUV or car as a commercial vehicle here, but still only few people chose a pickup.
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>>28912264
What kind of next gen delusion is this? The american revolution was one elite taking over from another. It didnt make you richer, wealth inequality is worse in the US, not better.
You aren't even rich.