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Europeans are not "blocking" US supersized pick up trucks, they are for sale here. We do not buy them because of three reasons.

1 - They are poorly made
2 - They are unreliable
3 - They are stupid

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>supersized
You forgot that bit.
A regular Toyota crewcab is a bit large if you want to take it to the store.
In its place they may be perfectly good, for most of Europe they're a bit like driving a rental truck every day.
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>>28907878
One of these with mud grips on it.
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>>28907856
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euros don't buy pickup trucks because pickup trucks are for land owners and euros are serfs.
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>>28907856
>all million mile vehicles are american pick up trucks
>none of them are european anything
???
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>>28907898
>Land owners
>90% of all wealth in the US is owned by 1% (Jews)

Lol
Lmao
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>>28907920
still more land owners than europe.
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>>28907856
Your streets tend to be narrow designed for much smaller vehicles or carriages long ago. Probably just not practical for the location.
US pickup trucks were made to be reliable over a decade or so ago, would run for 200K miles with basic oil change maintenance, but now they are not.
EPA regulations caused them to be increased in size to be classed outside of tighter fuel economy standards. Then came the choking exhaust and emissions systems. Finally, they tried using smaller turbo engines on these large vehicles while using very thin viscosity engine oils to meet regulations, and reliability went to complete garbage, even with trusted brands like Toyota. Politicians and legislature inflated sizes while killing reliability.
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>>28907920
we're you trying to make a point but forgot that you're an idiot?
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>>28907898
>euros don't buy pickup trucks because pickup trucks are for land owners and euros are serfs

Home ownership rates in the US: 65,7%

Home ownership rates in Spain: 73,6%
Home ownership rates in Italy: 75,1%
Home ownership rates in Netherlands: 68,8%
Home ownership rates in Poland: 87,2%
Home ownership rates in Czechia: 75,1%
Home ownership rates in Romania: 93,2%
Home ownership rates in Lithuania: 88,8%
go kys

The simple fact is that they are not practical for small European roads and parking lots.
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>>28909748
every land owner has a tractor and the weight limit for a traktor is high. Tractor trailers cant be towed by car. Tractors cost next to no tax, while a v8 pickup has the highest tax rates. The use case for a 3.5t limited pickup is almost nonexistant.
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>>28909748
> The simple fact is that they are not practical for small European roads and parking lots.
This
It’s the same reason literally everywhere in the US is wheelchair accessible while Europe is notoriously not so, 90 percent of the US was completely uninhabited until the 20th century
People forget that the Wild West was literally the last 19/early 20th century, it was barely 100 years ago while for instance the pantheon in Italy is 2000 years old
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>>28909993
>everywhere in the US is wheelchair accessible
American castles are.
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>>28909748
"Home" in europoor countries usually means an apartment in a commie block hellscape.

Now post the "house" statistics.
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>>28907914
>laughs in w124's
>>28907925
>Your streets tend to be narrow designed for much smaller vehicles or carriages long ago. Probably just not practical for the location.
Narrow streets aren't some immutable characteristic that a country has like mountains and coastlines, It's just a matter of government policy. After the war plenty of cities were rebuilt with wide multi lane roads everywhere only for those roads to be narrowed or torn down completely later on.
You're 100% right about regulations though. That + cheap abundant oil + "bigger = better" mentality is why big pickups are so much popular in the US.
>>28910043
Your cardboard mcmansions aren't real houses either anon.
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>>28910054
>Your cardboard mcmansions
Don't mention sheds, it'll all go down hill from there.
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>>28910043
NTA but I found this. As with everything it depends on where You live. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/housing-2024
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>>28907856
>he's alone on a saturday posting cope about americans and their big scary trucks
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>nobody:
>Nobody at all:
>Europeans:
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>>28907856
europe has such a thing called weather, and we've long deduced that the best way to protect cargo from weather is a van
americans sometimes have weather too but their brains are corn syrup and they keep going "how could this happen to me?" when they wak up to a drivable bathtub
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>>28911218
They're awesome for landscape gardeners and people that dismantle trees.
No, wait...
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>>28911225
you know, we don't have many of these, because we aren't much into this terraforming thing americans are obsessed with
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>>28911287
https://youtu.be/e3gS_xB4xks
Just because.
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>>28911287
>We don't control our yards in GERMANY
>Why do you care what your yard looks like?
>Why do you have people whose job it is to plant trees?
>We don't do that IN GERMANY

Well we're not obsessed with invading Poland or unrestricted submarine warfare, Klaus. We still won both wars, so we get to do what we want to our yards.
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>>28911299
The Polish people I know would like a BFO moat like the English have, they're going home because that is their home.
Remember this.
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>>28910055
>it's okay when we do it
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Americans are so poor they need a working truck and a family car in one
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>>28907898
im rural and a land ovner, it makes no sense to own a pickup truck here. the typical farmer rig here is a caddy awd or a hilux 4x4.
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>>28907898
We use SUVs.
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>>28910043
>STOP THE COUNT STOP THE COUNT IT DON'T COUNT
Make better utility vehicles if you want us to buy them.
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>>28911207
Germany used to put at least 10-15% of their GDP into their own military. Up to 75% at the height of the world wars.
That's why they have nice healthcare and social welfare systems now. Just like the rest of Europe who don't run their countries like they used to. They've depended on the US for half a century. It's an odd thing how they're fairly intelligent, but have this huge blindspot.
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>>28911624
b0ngs are not europeans
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I don't know bro, my poor as fuck Eastern European shithole puts the F-150 front and center on the official dealer page, as far as I know all the other countries focus on the e-slop and cuckovers.
https://ford.inchcape.lv
Dodge RAMs are a relatively common sight.
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>>28907898
you can compare the land ownership from my flag to yours and you get blamed. but we still dont drive pickups, we drive vans.
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>>28910043
still beats this shit here:
>>28910055
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They are not very practical in Europe.
If you need a truck bed for business, you basically buy pic related, if not you get a closed car/van. Most of Europe is more northerly than most of the US - Rome is at the same latitude as New York.
Using them as a daily is also a hassle as many public parkings and garages are too small.
My brother in law has a Nissan Navarro for tax reasons, but it's an impractical and uncomfortable car compared to the Renault luxury sedan/minivan he had before.
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>>28911974
But mah truuk. ;)
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>>28911974
Also if you go hunting or own forests you probably buy a Mercedes G if you're rich or a Suzuki Jimmy or a Dacia if you're poor but not a truck.
Trucks are seen as commercial vehicles, mostly.
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The reason why truggs are so rare in Europe is that they foresaw the "commercial vehicle" loophole coming from a mile away and moved to plug that. A half ton gasser makes little sense because it doesn't get any burgerican style special treatment, instead its sheer size and fuel economy throws it in the same tax bracket as a big luxury SUV which makes it way less attractive. 3/4 and full ton truggs are relatively more common as their gross weight allows you to register them as proper light trucks which is much more economical, but that comes with its own set of intentional annoyances to discourage casual ownership and you mostly see them with either diehards or people who actually have a business case for one.

Whining about a "ban" is basically insisting that European countries need to rewrite their laws to give massive breaks to a specific uncommon class of vehicle to appease foreign manufacturers.
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>>28912006
I had a college friend that rolled like pic.
More tools than straw but you get the idea.
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>>28911974
what you posted is basicly as big as most american pickups and they fit in every eu street or parking garage. i been tradie all my life and driven nothing but transporters, sprinters, hiace, transit...the myth that american trucks dont fit in europe comes from american drivers, they get shit scared when they come here. they can barely maneuver a rental fiesta through a city. meanwhile we got buses, dump trucks and whats not driving through here.
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>>28912006
American fuel prices went to 1$/L and they started acting like the sky is falling.
In Europe Dutch Cyclist Suicide bombers would be destroying gas stations out of desperation if we had fuel that cheap
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>>28911639
Germany doesn't "rely" on the US, its a US vassal state and its disarmament is the result of direct US influence.
As the US loses the empire you'll find europe getting stronger. Retard
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>>28907856
I think fundamentally, euros dont see white trash as an aspirational identity.
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I want to clobber amerimutts. You killed this world.
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>>28911207
Mostly why I ignore them. I'm just going to drive my pickup around. (something close is pictured below given I don't trust cameras and smartphones)
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>>28911981
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>>28912172
that looks like a ford9" front axle and they dont exist, ford used dana 35, 44, 50 and 60 front axles. but is commonly made for offroad using d60 outers. is your pickup 4x4 or not? bet you didnt expepct an euro to know this.
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>>28912150
>EUROPE IS STRONG
>IT DOESN'T NEED AMERICA
>IT JUST DOESN'T
>DON'T ASK WHY

t. European
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One time I saw a huge dodge ram on a german street on google maps
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>>28907856
europeepee's can't afford to operate pickups, shrimple as
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>>28912399
It is an F100. 4x4? Yes I need it when I haul hogs. As I said I don't take pictures so it ain't my truck, just looks similar. I knew reading wasn't common over across the sea but I guess it outta be hammered home sometimes.
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>>28907856
us trucks are fine on european rural roads

problems begin when you try to park in city/at mall
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>>28907937
>but forgot that you're an idiot?
>we're you trying
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>>28912014
Driving and parking a land barge in Euro cities is absolutely doable but is incredibly annoying, especially in packed parking lots.
t. pic rel
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>>28912881
and it isnt elsewhere? i got a huge respect for italian and spanish bus drivers. been on holidays there and they dive straight into the smalles road or town square with their fuckhuge tourist buses, and then they back out again for a km or so. the point is, its a skill issue.
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>>28907856
pick ups are not seen as everyday vehicle so people do not bother with them and vans are better for pretty much anything working related.
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>>28913086
>its a skill issue
It is but it doesn't make it any less annoying to navigate tight spaces
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>>28911287

>some urban bug communist pretending europe doesn't have suburbs

literally mental retardation
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>>28913089
This.
There are only a few use cases.
Maybe if someone operates a hut up in the mountains where he needs both carrying capacity and basic off-road capabilities.
If he only needs the former, a van is the better choice, if only the latter a 4x4 SUV is better.
There are even a few fiscal advantages of having a truck or van instead of a SUV or car as a commercial vehicle here, but still only few people chose a pickup.
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>>28912488
Thanks for demonstrating that you cant read.
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>>28912264
What kind of next gen delusion is this? The american revolution was one elite taking over from another. It didnt make you richer, wealth inequality is worse in the US, not better.
You aren't even rich.

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