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My mom had one 10-15 years ago as her 2nd car so I got to drive it a lot. Turbo, 5-speed manual, non-abarth.
I owned an STi for 6 years before that but holy shit I couldn't stop speeding in the 500. I'd get on the highway and dig the throttle a bit, then the turbo would spool and my monkey brain would end me up going 135. Not just occasionally, all the time. I'd constantly look down and see triple digits.
Very poor handling, it loved to understeer in tight and wide corners with or without the driver aids (ABS) fuse pulled. But if you've got whatever the American turbo engine is with a manual, damn it's a roll racer. That turbo kicks and you cannot take your foot off the throttle.
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>>28910031
The drug stash/storage in the passenger seat is a neat feature more vehicles could/should have (if not an underseat drawer like a first gen CR-V or Cayenne).
I'd only consider an Abarth of a sport-trim turbo with a manual, and I have been eyeing them now and then since they're getting dirt cheap. I enjoy my slow shitboxes, but it's not like this is a 35+ year old car. 10+ seconds 0-60 on the lower trim models is just abysmal for a hatchback from the last decade.
>>28910042
True, but now that you can pick one up for a few grand they're starting to at least look like decent deals. Even the Abarths are well under $10k at this point as long as it's not some special edition.
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>>28910208
>How the fuck do you get groceries or pick up a new TV with one of these?
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I would an Abarth 500
But I swore long ago never to buy another stellantis product
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>>28910210
We also live in an age of crippling debt. Coincidence? How about instead of taking the whole day off to wait for the delivery guys you just buy a practical grown up vehicle?
>>28910213
That's a monitor, not a TV. I bet the seats are all the way forward as well.
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>>28910231
if only you knew how good things really are
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>How about instead of taking the whole day off to wait for the delivery guys you just buy a practical grown up vehicle?
Sorry, I'm not going to buy a vehicle for faggots and look like a faggot driving one 24/7 for the rare occasion I'd have to pick something bigger up from the store. And I don't watch TV because "I'm an adult".
Also imagine being this poor and retarded you can't afford a delivery service but becoming Poor McDebtlease to buy a useless status symbol for sub 100 IQ mongrels is affordable and apparently a good decision.
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I had an Abarth 595 and regret selling it. I've driven supremely more powerful cars but that thing made me smile everything I drove it. Pops from the exhaust were completely random and it had a nice burble. Surprisingly reliable and parts are dirt cheap. Random stuff like the door handles break easily and the interior is cheap but it never let me down. Rattles depend on what day of the week the car was built and the Bluetooth is the worst thing I've delt with in any car. Can't comment on the standard 500's but what makes it a fun car is the exhaust/intake noises. I would pay the extra since they are still very affordable.
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Generally they're not as useless as you'd think, especially the 2cyl turbo has proven to be just fine over the years. And they sound a little like a 2CV at high revs. Not nearly as fun to drive as a MINI, 500s actually don't really handle at all.
Personally I'm not a fan of the non-base models with all the plasticky chrome and beige/light interiors with as an anon already mentioned age like milk
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This is the way imho, the working man's subcompact
Just as narrow and frugal, but with more room, optional 4x4 and extra pluckiness that makes it much more charming than any 500.
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>>28910985
Cool ones have gone now, there is boxy thingy incoming.
Pic is ... fun.
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>>28910988
I had this but red back in the day.
Not a Croma but perfectly capable.
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They have them for under 5k I homeless and want to buy one with my student loan gibs
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>>28910988
>Like what?
Hedge trimmings, tree trimmings, dirt for the garden, taking trips to the landfill, picking up raw materials for projects, the list goes on and on. Trailers are a fucking pain in the ass, yes even compared to driving a pickup or a practical vehicle. But you'll just pay somebody money to do that for you, right? Yeah stay poor.
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>>28911351
>Hedge trimmings, tree trimmings, dirt for the garden, taking trips to the landfill, picking up raw materials for projects,
You can handle literally all of these with eggshit, a towel/cargo mat and some trash bags
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>>28911351
you can literally do most of these with a trailer.
Hell if you dont mind fucking up your interior, you can do most with an estate.
>stay poor.
There is a difference between
>doing a project because you enjoy DIY
>doing a project because you cannot afford to outsource the work
>outsourcing the project because you can afford that and cant be bothered.
Just because you cant afford to hire some tradies to do your bidding, doesnt mean everyone else cant do same either.
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>>28911537
I can see why you people haven't made it into space yet.
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loving the muttrage
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>>28910031
Get one with a turbo, and despite the memes, the power train will not let you down if you maintain it. Be prepared for stupid things to break like the exterior door handle or the USB port, things that can be fixed within two hours by a newbie with harbor freight tools but again it will not strand you
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I've heard terrible things about driving the base 500, but I quite enjoy my Abarth. It isn't the most powerful car by any means, but it is fun to drive and it has character. Now, a lot of people call that character names like "cute" or "homosexual" or "for women," but you can ignore them. Funnily enough, the most comments I've got from strangers are them asking what car it is, since I guess they expect to see "Fiat" and get "Abarth" instead. If you take out the back seats, you have a fair bit of cargo space to use, so the car is still usable for driving shit around.
Mine is at around 140k miles, and the only major failure I've had was the timing ring disintegrating (which seems like a common problem). A little bit of a pain to replace, but it is what it is. I'll double what the other anons have said too: the door handles like to break and the bluetooth is AWFUL (I swapped the head unit within a couple months.) The car sounds nice, though, and has more turbo noise than you might expect. It is by no means a perfect car, but you can get a lot of fun out of it.
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Raped by Suzuki
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