not nearly as nice as the Kia K4 and its basically a decade old and they have shown they are totally unwilling to update it at all

>>28911529
>not nearly as nice as the Kia K4

Hahaha! Yeah, right.

>its basically a decade old and they have shown they are totally unwilling to update it at all

Yep, its proven reliable. It'll be a fine reliable cheap commuter as opposed to a fucking Kia.

>>28911545
just drive them both and get back to me
yes, the mazda is a better steer, but the suspension is rougher and its overall like driving a much cheaper, older car with less well programmed software

kias are reliable as fuck

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>>28911547
>software
You should kill yourself immediately

>>28911548
my car drives itself on the highway
we have the technology, you choose to ignore it because you've never tried it and don't grasp how useful it is
what a primitive monkey!

>>28911551
>fucking my wife? I have a pool boy for that, I haven't had to have sex myself for years. You just don't understand what a great timesaver it is

>>28911525
Used? They're a top-tier option if you need an econobox. You'll get a better deal on one than you would on a used Civic or Corolla. They're super reliable. Feels good to drive, with no CVT and good steering. Should be cheap to insure.

New? I'd suggest a Civic or Corolla hybrid.

>>28911529
Begone shill

>>28911574
DRIVE the kia
actually go drive one
tell me how it is (but test drive the turbo one plz)
nobody is making you buy a kia
just asking you to drive both, and compare
go do that, come back, and then post again

You are all assholes and I hate you all so please go kill yourself from a high building you fucking shills

why are americans absolutely obsessed with hondas and toyotas being "reliable"?
or is it just an online teen urban legend thing

>>28912212
Because Honda's B16A and K20A were simply bullet proof and had some of the best horsepower per litre at the time for naturally aspirated engines. Toyota (1/2JZ) and Nissan (RB26DETT) had excellent starlight 6's. The Co2 emissions terrorists killed many excellent engineering accomplishments.

>>28911525
Civic and Corolla sell more units in Montana, than Mazda sells 3s globally. What do you think?

>>28912306
>there are more brown people in india than there are europeans in all countries in the world put together, what do you think?

>>28911579
>imagine backward rationalizing your bad decision so hard that you beg strangers on the internet to drive a shitbox known for exploding engines.

Its a bit sportier, better looking and has better interior but is less practical. I've driven one and liked it but it doesn't get same mpg and the slushbox is a slushbox.

>>28912212
its a thing here in Finland here as well

I wouldn't consider a NEW shitbox without it being a hybrid, the advantages make the entire drivetrain better. Transmission on hybrids is better, 4 cylinder with instant torque, ability to drive with the engine off, instant AC/heat because it's electric/part electric, and then using 40% less gas.

I would consider only a civic hybrid, corolla hybrid, corolla cross hybrid or ford maverick hybrid

I wouldn't consider any NEW shitbox if the brand starts with M

>>28913179
In highway driving Mazda 3 is like 6.0 liters per 100 km and Corolla Hybrid is like 5.1.

>>28911525
>Also I think they look better.
You have shit taste.

>>28913276
You sound like a sour grapes goyotard stuck with his disjointed gook tier ai design

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>>28913259
Yeah and in city it's a bigger gap. I'm getting 5.6L / 100km in my maverick awd.

It's a pretty big difference when gas is expensive

>>28911525
It's a piece of shit, just did a mini review of mine in another thread:

>>28913627

Mazda is an absolute no-go brand for me now. Sadly had to spend over 20k on this mistake.