>>28914723
Because literally any other engine configuration is better than a boxer engine. This applies to any pricetag.
>inb4 porchefags and SubieSuckers

Because it doesn't oil starve going left, eat rtv, and isn't slower than a minivan

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>>28914723
The camaro exist. so there is no reason to spend money on the GR86.

>>28914730
a camaro can potentially run you 70 grand or more

>>28914741
A 4 cylinder camaro doesn't cost 70 grand.

>>28914729
The problem easily solvable with a new oil pump. Try again.

>>28914742
but you pay for driving a non-V8 "muscle car" with your pride. is it really worth it?

>>28914744
the Camaro isn't a muscle car and the GR86 doesn't even come with a V8.

>>28914749
>the Camaro isn't a muscle car
retard alert!
>and the GR86 doesn't even come with a V8
because it's not a muscle car. it's infinitely less shameful to drive a car that is SUPPOSED to have a 4cyl or a v6 than a povertyspec rentalspec LARPmobile
you now have my permission to seethe

>>28914755
>it's another episode of "retard thinks anything american with a V8 is a muscle car"
yawn
>because it's not a muscle car.
neither is the camaro.

>>28914760
so why didn't you get the V8?

>>28914768
Why are you defending a car that doesn't even come with a V8?

>>28914770
>Why are you defending a car that doesn't even come with a V8?
it's infinitely less shameful to drive a car that is SUPPOSED to have a 4cyl or a v6 than a povertyspec rentalspec LARPmobile
sorry you have such a bad memory
So, why didn't you get the V8?

>>28914773
>its infinitely less shameful to drive something that's SUPPOSED to be poverty and rentalspec
huh

>>28914777
Correct. there is no pretension in a car that does not pretend to be anything other than what it is.
Now then, why didn't you get the V8 camaro? Could you possibly be poor and brown?

>>28914778
The 4 cylinder camaro handles better than the GR86, and doesn't pretend otherwise. where is the pretension? since you're defending a car that doesn't even come with a V8, does that mean you're also poor and brown?

>>28914780
The 4cyl camaro is pretending to be a car with a V8 to trick normie non-car guys and women into thinking it's the real deal.
Why didn't you get the V8 thoughbeit?

>>28914782
Why are you defending a car that doesn't even come with a V8?
>>28914784
the GR86 is pretending to handle good, when it handles worse than a 4 cylinder camaro. it tricks normie non-car guys who watched initial D.

Why are you defending a car that doesn't come with a V8?

poor+brown confirmed
good luck!

>>28914723
A "sports car" should be able to get the holeshot on a minivan or a Prius. A sports car should not be slower off the line than a 500k lb plane.

>>28914794
so GR86 owner confirmed?

>>28914743
A new oil pump makes it faster?

>>28914805
>>28914794
You guys couldn't even afford a V6, could you? I'll be here enjoying my Camaro AND my GR86.

There’s only 1 car more pathetic than a V6 challenger.
A fucking 4 pot Camaro lmao

>>28914723
because it's slow

>>28914723
>sports car slower than grandma's camry
gonna have to pass

>>28914723
I would kms if I ever bought a Subaru engine or any 3-4 cylinder “sports” car

>>28914726
>literally any other engine configuration is better
A H4 is more based than an I4, if it was a v4 it would be cool too but that's a motorcycle thing and you're a wrenchlet

>>28914723
More power and better interior

>>28914723
It's easier and cheaper to make a pony car handle better than make a GR86 fast. Ecoboost mustang is faster and GM alpha platforms handle great while being a much larger car. Swap either of those to a V8 and you have a much more fun car with suspension mods. Slow car fast is fun until you actually want to go fast. GR86 isn't even quick.

>>28914743
>oil pump box says it adds 15 horsepower!

>>28914730
Fat ugly niggerish amerislop

>>28914912
ecoboost mustangs blow up and camaro feels like driving a pillbox

gr86 is a middleweight car meant to compete with s2000s, mx5s, wrxs and other sport compacts

the people who dont understand it legitimately do not go to racetracks or any motorsports events other than 4chan benchracing like the camarocel

>>28914969
But enough about yourself

>>28914991
the GR86 blows up, too. and you'll void your warranty by tracking it.

whoops.

you sure as fuck shouldn't spend $31400 starting msrp on one

>>28914991
What? The oil starvation issues pop up when you drive GR86s hard. They pop too. Ecoboosts do be boomy but 2020+ have seen far less failures. Camaro isn't the only alpha platform, but i know what you mean. It's the sole reason I don't own one. Still doesn't change the fact that it's one of the best handling platforms on market for the price.

I understand the segment the GR86 is meant to be in. It just doesn't do it well stock. S2000s, especially AP2s are a raw driving experience that is fun af. Miatas are smaller, lighter and can be tuned to a GR86 stock output NA. Its a better drivers car. While bigger cars aren't as nimble, with good suspension and a good driver, they are faster.

I go to motorsports events and I've raced off and on. Nothing serious but HPDE and TTs with SCCA and NASA. I've also drove quite a few stock, to modified to extremely modified 86s.

Fuck, get a C6 vette with suspension mods and have a near 50/50 weight distribution, smaller footprint and weight than a pony car and have a more reliable car with a larger aftermarket than an 86. All while making 500whp NA.

>>28914723
It shouts: I can't afford any other sports car

>>28915052
in this day and age it's not really shouting so much as just saying
>line must go up, price must go up, let me enjoy at least one thing in life
like a lot of other things going on right now

>228 horsepower and 184 torque in 2026

Even if this was 1996 those numbers would be boring

>muh hp
easy way to expose bench racers and bus riders

>>28914723
It's actually not that fast. I've literally outraced them in base model C-Class and a base model Mustang. The Camry is also canonically faster.

>Chuck 200TW and a turbo on a 36 year old 1.6 miata for 10k MAX. 11 if you want some Koni's and track pads.
Oh hi.

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>>28914901
>motorcycle thing

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>>28914723
They're no longer sold here.

>>28915076
>2026 vs 1996 horsepower

in 1996 one of the most exciting sports cars was the e36 m3 that put down the same 210whp and weighed 400lbs more than a gr86

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>>28915010
>get a C6 vette with suspension mods and have a near 50/50 weight distribution, smaller footprint and weight than a pony car and have a more reliable car with a larger aftermarket than an 86. All while making 500whp NA.
good advice

>>28914723
>gr86
That's a Subaru not a toyota, niggnogg