Farts 'n Poops!

Buy an ad, faggot

>>28954638
it's just a good car

>>28954669
what does it do that 95% of other cars could not do?

>>28954670
well, I use the center diff lock a bunch, basically just flip it on for any dirt road or low speed driving in rain/snow and it keeps the rear wheels hooked up which is nice
and it drives itself on the highway while letting you have your hands in your lap as long as you tug on it periodically
I think the newer ones have a capacitative sensor instead that MAKES you keep hands on wheel at all times but I don't know for sure what the settings are for that newer tech
it has skid plates (I think equinox/terrain twins offer skids in the AT4 trim, and subaru has them on some models, but not 100% sure)
I flip on the 360 camera when pulling out of tight spaces or for 3 point turns and it actually will turn on on its own at low speeds on steep ramps and if it detects an obstacle
koreans put a lot of effort into the programming of their software and it shows
the safety features are useful and not overly intrusive
I do dream I had a turbo but this is probably more reliable, could use 20 more hp for passing though

>>28954675
>center diff
>adaptive cruise control
>360 camera
>safety features (guessing you mean lane keeping, auto braking, etc.)
half of this stuff is federally mandated equipment that's in every single car being produced today

>>28954670
Break down within the warranty period

>>28954676
lol none of that is federally mandated
and you can have adaptive crooz that doesn't steer itself or let you drive hands free without making you stare at the road (my car doesn't have a compliance camera thank god)

>>28954675
Sounds like a real piece of shit.
I'm struggling to imagine a car that can't traverse that road even when mildly moist.
Driver aids are AIDS.
Cool pic, but none of that is remotely impressive. It sounds like any cheap modern car, but with a center diff lock up to 25mph. It sounds like any normal modern shitbox.

>>28954710
the worst part was where it was muddy and there were ruts
I guess I now grasp how gravel roads are better than pure dirt ones if it rains
I have AT tires but I think you need RT/MT tires if you deal regularly in thick mud.
The interior is much nicer than a Toyota, and it has more feature content than a Honda. Hondas are much more basic. Nissan has a nicer interior, but the software and platform are both ancient.

>The Kia Sportage actually had a transfer case in 1995
What went wrong?

>>28954718
when do you use your transfer case?
also they did a review for uk car magazine of every gen of sportage, and the first one was apparently quite awful to drive

>>28954675
Meanwhile I can take my truck in 4H or 4L to redline in any gear and it doesn't care.

>>28954741
I'm kind of surprised that it will hold to redline in manual mode or even in automatic if you floor it, I have it in "smart" mode and it does learn to hold lower gears with time
tbqh it needs more torque, low end, not a transfer case, would be nice with a diesel

>>28954744
My truck doesn't get to choose what gear it's in. I could start out in 3rd if I wanted to feather the clutch enough. Plus it would bounce off the rev limiter all day if I kept my foot down.

>>28954749
I'm thankful to drive an automatic, but, realistically, any car is a manual on rough/winding roads if you don't have gobs of torque because you have to keep it in the power band and the auto programming tries to shift it into top gear even at 50 mph

I bet my Kia has a way smoother ride and better handling than your trugg
its perfectly competent, just numb

>>28954753
Imagine being proud of owning an autotragic. What a retarded thread.

>>28954763
so you shouldn't be proud of owning a bugatti?

>>28954763
honestly I wish the transmission programming were better
there's so little torque from an NA 4-banger that you have to shift it manually on all but the straightest, flattest roads, and I do a lot of driving in the mountains so I feel other cars in the same price range would be equally shitty, but wonderful to be able to set it and forget it otherwise and not have to use my fucking foot to shift

I broke my left leg last winter. I would have been stranded if I had to modulate a clutch pedal.

>>28954675
>it has skid plates
Since those aren't stock, which brand of skid plates did you get?
Or are you the same idiot that keeps coming back here to pretend his decorative bumper is magically a skid plate?

>>28954632
Begone shill

>>28954771
put it in "sport" mode when it wants to lug the engine

>>28954793
its not a decorative bumper if you go to the website and look up the x-pro prestige trim it mentions skid plates and if you go to the "we tested the sportage x-pro off road" video on youtube you can see them when the camera shows under the vehicle

looks nice

>>28954949
>its not a decorative bumper if you go to the website and look up the x-pro prestige trim it mentions skid plates
You mean the "front and rear skid plates" which is a fancy way to say decorative bumper?
Also, the video you mention but did not bother posting a link to just shows a car doing car stuff. Oh no, a dirt road. So technical. Such cliffhanger. Only at one point can you get a quick glimpse at the underside which is missing any sort of protective plate. You'd know this if you watched it.

>>28955994
they are not decorative

>>28956314
>they are not decorative
I agree with your sense of style, those decorative bumpers do not accentuate the looks of that car. However, they also don't protect the oil pan, transmission, or gas tank since they are just front and rear bumpers. Actual skid plates cover more than what the bumper already covers.

>>28956403
I fucked up the oil pan on my last car (on rough roads), and specifically got a car with skids to avoid that happening again. I guess if I don't fuck up the differential, steering rack, oil pan, or other parts with this one, I win and you have to retract your claims?
I made a point of looking under the car to make sure it was skidded out before getting it.

>>28956407
>and specifically got a car with skids
What brand? Because they aren't stock. Look under the car you supposedly own.

>>28954632
I don't want to stir shit with you personally, but this car has one of the worst fucking windshields I've ever encountered.
It's so thin that it's nearly impossible to keep it clear on a highway during winter.
It'll freeze up while you drive, even with the heater on full blast.
Ridiculous.

>>28956490
havent had this issue + my car has wires in the windshield so it cannot ice up
i drove it in a blizzard and the sensors fucked up and it wouldn't let me use cruise control at all, but i could still see out the windshield. I have had cars where it felt like the windshields fogged up all the time and this doesn't do that.

>>28956495
>my car has wires in the windshield

>>28954632
FUCK YOU

>>28956507
yes?
heating wires

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>>28954632
Kia: Built for buttfucking

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>>28957106
Kia: Nothing is beyond our reach!

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look at them!
look how they are helping the trees grow!

>>28956651
i've never seen heating wires on the front windscreen

>>28957357
some luxury cars have it I wanna say land rover defender offers it
frankly its more annoying than helpful unless you live in a really cold climate cuz the wires slightly obstruct your vision but you do get used to them mostly
I broke my ankle at the start of winter and didn't get out much this winter, but I imagine it would be more useful if I did travel around in winter.

I will say the heating/defrosting functions are SO much more efficient than they were on older vehicles I drove 20 years ago
you don't really need to use remote start cuz it cools/heats up so fast anyways

>>28954669
STFU you demented cunt!

>>28957357
>being this poor

>>28957565
I dunno I've never had a car before with it either. It comes on the "prestige package"
I think the other features are the blind spot monitor which projects the side camera view when you activate your turn signal, I think it also includes rear automatic braking, the heated windscreen, maybe solar control glass, and the skidplates, but mainly got it for the skids

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>>28957684
>I think it also includes... and the skidplates, but mainly got it for the skids
Pic related is the "rear skid plate", it attaches to the bottom part of the bumper.
Front one kind of covers the radiator.

>>28958515
that's just a bumper cover
kia probably doesn't list the part online

>>28958520
>kia probably doesn't list the part online
They rarely do list imaginary parts that are only in your head.

>>28958531
weird that it's imaginary but you can see it in the we took the kia off roading" video when they show under it and it lists the prestige trim as having skid plates on their website

>>28958559
>weird that it's imaginary but you can see it in the we took the kia off roading" video when they show under it and it lists the prestige trim as having skid plates on their website
Nice link to that totally real video, I clicked on it so many times
And the pic of the rear "bumper cover" is what they are calling a skid plate.

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>>28954632
Picanto is best Kia.

>>28958666
You only care because you think it looks cute.

>>28958623
I'm not sure it's worth trying to prove anything to you. Short of me jacking it up on a repair stand and taking a picture of the underbody, you won't be satisfied.

>>28959636
>Short of me jacking it up on a repair stand and taking a picture of the underbody, you won't be satisfied.
You mean what I specifically asked for on one of your previous visits here?
You don't say
How insightful of you.

Wait, it takes a jack to see the underside? Such offroad. Much clearance.

>>28954632
One time I parked off a path just like that in my Rav4 and one wheel sunk into the dirt and I was stuck for hours digging it out. No matter how hard I floored it the thing would not move, I probably nearly blew out the engine or trans.

Crossovers are not for offroad, keep them on the path.

>>28959976
I could only believe this happened to a hybrid with the cvt trans, those are notoriously bad offroad. I don't believe that there is a crossover on the market that offers AWD that can't get moving after losing traction to a single wheel.
Then there is the tire issue. LIke yeah you are not going to have fun if you go play in the mud in your quiet and economical summer tires.

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>>28959834
I saw it next to a trugg (tundra) in a parking area yesterday. It got giga-mogged, way narrower, way lower to the ground, way shorter. But, some of the roads in the woods are super narrow so that's necessarily a bad thing.

I had my first skid today. I was going 30mph ish on a muddy downhill (steep) dirt road and the car lost control for a few seconds, had to countersteer in one direction, then the other, and then it came back. This is with AWD lock on, and all terrain tires (which are not great for mud, that's why they make rugged terrain and mud terrain tires I suppose) - it rained a bunch in the last few days

I mean I think in that situation a rear locker would have helped but AWD is certainly better than nothing. I've never really felt the traction or stability control do its thing and never had the light flash for that in the dash (my old jetta it used to cut power all the time), and only had the ABS engage once in heavy rain when I forgot to pump.

>>28959976
was it 4wd? what tires?
tires matter too, I wouldn't do this on normie tires

>>28960267
do you think you get more grip in the mud if you lower the pressure in the tires? I just haven't worked out how to do that, I'm not mechanically inclined, and it seems like a hassle.

Most people here have jeeps and trucks but there's plenty of Nissan Rogue's and shitbox sedans too.

It was coming downhill from pic related that I skidded. It was like that video where the E36 goes down a hill but I tried to minimally correct the steering. It was scary as hell but I've been traveling for a year and a bit now and not skidded before.

If you had tried what I did today on summer tires I think you just would have died unless you did the whole thing at 10-15 mph.

>>28960267
Nope it was a 2015, newish model back when it happened. Standard automatic AWD.

>>28960487
AWD honey, not the same as 4wd. Decently treaded tires, I'd always get deep treaded ones. It literally just didn't do well once it was off a packed path. It wasn't so much that it dug itself in, the engine just couldn't spin the tires that had traction. I would floor it with no wheels moving, or slight movement that would just dig me deeper.

It was great in snow, absolutely shit offroad. Could only handle paths if they weren't wet or loose dirt.

>>28960605
>I'd always get deep treaded ones.
it's a balance cuz I do a lot of highway miles too
I could have mud terrains and ez pz through dirt roads that are wet but they would be shitty on the highway.

Honestly it does fine on rough roads. I'm more of a pussy than it is, but I obviously concede it's not gonna do as well as a truck with 4wd and a locker, but it's also much less crude than that the rest of the time
this is also exceptionally rainy
I could have gone around and taken a paved road back - next time I will know to do that

Have you driven a Kia?

Are Kias really that bad?

>>28961800
the product as designed is nice. the product as engineered and built is shit

>>28961811
Have you ever owned a Korean car?

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>>28954632
>>28960487
In Sweden we drive 70s/80s/90s FWD cars in this type of places normally and at winter. I never understood what is this American obsession to have 4x4 AWD super military SUV trucks with monster wheels and then drive on a normal level dirt road and when it is winter, slide into a tree or pile of cars.

>>28962936
Do you have mud in sweden? It has been rainier than usual here and there's some mud on the dirt roads, the ones that don't have gravel over them, and I found myself losing traction even going 15 mph with AWD lock on today, just because of how thick the mud was. I have a feeling if I had rugged or mud terrain tires it would be less of an issue, but it's already a bit dicey passing on the highway with these all terrain tires at 80 mph or more.

I grew up with two 80s volvos, a 240 sedan and a 740 wagon.
> I never understood what is this American obsession to have 4x4 AWD super military SUV trucks with monster wheels
maybe y'all are really good at driving or don't have narrow steep roads. Doesn't take much to slide off a road when it is wet/muddy/snowy/icy and they don't even throw down cinders here in the winter on most roads.

>>28961815
thankfully not, but when I was selling cars we had plenty of complaints from people trying to trade theirs in. they all went to auction except for one gv80 with like 6500 miles

>>28963366
Did you actually drive them? I'm not saying it's like the finest driving automobile ever or anything but it's perfectly competent and practical.
Do wish it had a rear locker though.

>>28957154
I'll preface this by saying that I adhere to the premise that Function > Form.

This thing is hideous looking.

WTF!

>>28963393
>Did you actually drive them?
thankfully not, econoboxes suck after the financial crisis
I'm at a different job now and two of my coworkers drive gook cars. one prior gen platform elantra, one sorento. both coworkers' shifters broke, excluding the time the woman forgot to put the car in park before trying to remove her key

>>28963424
I just plain do not care how it looks. I bought it for practicality.

>>28963436
It actually will beep at you if you try to turn it off in drive, had that happen once. It has tons of different warning systems, the software is so complex.

>>28963445
>I bought it for practicality.
Ok.
I can respect that.

>>28963448
fits all my stuff but also fits in smol parking spaces (except with the bike rack sigh)
and I love the hands free driving
I got it for road trips ya know, exploring

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I turned around at this point. Maybe you could do it if you had mud tires, but all terrains don't like thick mud. They don't really like mud at all which is weird cuz they are great in the rain and snow. Would have only been another .5 mi to the view from here, but I wussied out and turned around.
FUCK I hate mud

>>28964612
thicc

>>28964612
>I turned around at this point. Maybe you could do it if you had mud tires, but all terrains don't like thick mud.
Tires have nothing to do with it. You're a pussy-ass city boy afraid of a little mud and think a gravel path is "off-roading". Mud like that is nothing to shy away from, hell it's practically a 'civilized' road in some parts of the world.
>Would have only been another .5 mi to the view from here
So why not walk it city boy. Oh right, fat, lazy and conditioned to be afraid of a little dirt.

Only reason you wouldn't take a car down there, any car, even a shitty fabia, is because it's daddy's car and he'll do dirty things to you for dirtying it up.

>>28954632
What about your wife, is she nice?

>>28965182
I washed it right after this mud. I was sore from a hike the day before and the view isn't THAT great.

Tires have everything to do with it. And ground clearance. Dont quite have enough for thick mud. Lifted jeep on mud tires with rear locker - go on ahead.

>>28962936
they think AWD is a requirement for winter driving but they drive on all season (no season) tires

>>28964612
where the fuck are you even going
>>28964612
>Would have only been another .5 mi to the view from here, but I wussied out and turned around.
are you a paralytic?

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>>28964612
>a couple of lads successfully travel all the from England to South Africa in nothing but a three wheeled joke
>A slightly muddy path is too much for a jacked up KIA
The absolute state of cuckover owners

>>28965340
there's a vista at the end of the road
I checked on the official website of the state forest and this last stretch of road is marked as a single dotted line, I guess it's just totally unmaintained
and I found two reviews of people saying to park here and walk the rest of the way
I hiked the day before and was sore. Can always come back to places, and there's a way to get there hiking by going around the creek along the old bucket tramway.

>>28965343
well, I was alone and if I got stuck in the mud nobody's gonna get me out of there for a while
I think it's more an issue of all terrain tires not being optimized for mud and you actually needing mud terrain tires for this sort of thing + having 29 inch tires that are kinda short and needing a bit more ground clearance if not a rear locker for such thicc mud

>>28954632
New growth forests are so disgusting to look at god damn.

>>28965349
Anon I could have hit that slightly damp patch of dirt in a thirty year old civic with bald street tires at about 30 miles an hour without even blinking.

>>28964612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WK7n5yKhc8

>>28964612
nigga the parking lot at most farms near me look like this. if i can rip through those on summers in a low sedan, you'll be fine in your cuck pod

>>28965461
look, we should have an /o/ meetup here, I will park outside the bad road zone, hop into your sedan, and let's see if you make it to the top. I will bring joints for anyone who makes it all the way to the parking area.

I was already slipping a bit going 15mph in mud less bad than pic related, I was terrified of getting stuck.

I hate mud!

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>>28959118
Nah, it's the cheapest car you can buy here, except a $200 cheaper chynese MG3 that is CVT only. Pico is available with a regular auto or manual, which I would choose.

>>28966046
I have a feeling it's cheap for a reason.
You sound like a Dacia Spring buyer.
The biggest appeal of Kia is all the features and safety stuff you get on the fully loaded versions. A stripper model defeats the purpose.

I will say, the rear automatic braking somehow went off today while I was reversing in a parking lot and I wasn't THAT close to the car behind me, but it has never erroneously gone off before except while parallel parking and fast moving traffic is going past, but I do know how to turn it off now (you have to 100% depress the brake pedal)

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>>28954638

>>28966061
me on the right

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>>28965692
You suck at driving fag

>>28966076
yeah ok so let's see if your impala can make it up
my hands are weak and girly, you are right, and the electric power steering has NO FEEL at all which makes it spooky in the mud
I wonder if the steering is any less numb in a Genesis

>>28965351
it's actually old growth the background tree is an old hemlock
well, its the edge of old growth where it mees new growth

>>28966059
dacia spring is awful

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>>28966059
>You sound like a Dacia Spring buyer.
We don't get Dacia cars in Australia, but I wouldn't want to buy a European car anyway, as Aus is RHD and I don't like indicators on the left side of the column.
Here's a few reviews. We only get the 1.25l four cylinder Pico here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z9FyurxmW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAhoFWvNf2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrv3lk7GcZc

>>28967436
>Here's a few reviews
This is your coworkers thread. The one tasked to pretend your employer makes cars that can drive on slightly dirty roads without exploding. Did he call in sick? Is that why you're taking over?

Also:
>>28954638
>Buy an ad, faggot
>>28954806
>Begone shill

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>>28964612
>>28965692
Funny how 1991 Astra can do more off road than you can on flat hard ground with your new off road 4x4 diff lock monster truck AWD. Normal people who drive 90s FWD cars in deep mud, in forest without a road, in -40 weather, with slick rubber etc. have...
>no locking center differential
>no terrain select system
>no hill descent control
>no underbody skid plates
>no all terrain tires
>no surround view camera
>no increased ground clearance
>no all wheel drive lock
>no hill start assist
>no front tow hooks
>no off road drive mode
>no water fording capability
>no ABS
>no airbags
>no power steering
>no air conditioning
>no central locking
>no power windows
>no all wheel drive
>no locking differential
>no terrain modes
>no surround view camera
>no heads up display
>no adaptive cruise control
>no lane keeping assist
>no blind spot monitoring
>no heated seats
>no ventilated seats
>no massage seats
>no panoramic sunroof
>no touchscreen
>no wireless smartphone integration
>no remote start
>no power tailgate
>no automatic emergency braking
>no rear cross traffic alert
>no digital cluster
>no tire pressure monitoring
>no electronic stability control
>no tachometer
>no immobilizer
>no skid plates
>no hill descent control

>>28954632 >>28967678
Also I forgot that these people probably don't even have normal (manual) transmission...

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>>28967669
>Re: shilling
I'm not involved with Kia in any way, but am always looking at what is the best new manual small car, as I'm a light car fan. A few years ago it was the Mitsubishi Mirage, then the Suzuki Ignis that I was posting about, this year it's the Pico. This is my honest personal opinion. IDGAF what you think.

>>28967812
Based

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>>28957154
>>28963424
>This thing is hideous looking.

Nonsense, it's a nice looking generic modern day car.

>>28967812
99% chance that white bitch is mentally ill and calls herself a "snowbunny" unironically.

>>28964612
>Too pussy to drive through
>Too pussy to walk a mile (there and back)
You're an embarrassment, OP. If you ever try to shill your dogshit crossover again here, I hope somebody remembers how you turned tail and ran once the road stopped being compacted dirt or gravel.

>>28967842
I was very sore from a hike the day before and I'm still recovering from an injury. I feared getting stuck in the mud, and given the prior reports about the road being shit I hadn't expected to make it that far anyways. It wasn't like the road was in good condition before the mudpit, it was still muddy, just not that bad.

>>28967823
I don't really care too much about styling, but it is overwrought and it does compromise rear visibility. I would prefer a flatter longer rear glass that was easier to clean and see out of.

>>28967823
we don't get that color in the US I don't think, looks nice

>>28964612
you can literally see the tire tracks of some other guy on all seasons that went right through without a problem

>>28968074
>we don't get that color in the US I don't think, looks nice
They aren't all painted red, it's just that they self ignite because of bad design. They actually come in more than one color. You are mistaking cars engulfed in flames with cars being painted red. Easy mistake to make with that brand. I saw one the other day that wasn't on fire. Totally bought a lottery ticket afterwards, won $5.

>>28968161
ok well I'm not that guy

my kia was already breaking traction mildly on the less muddy sections before this only going 15 mph and the steering is so numb it's not fun to wrangle it and if I'd gotten stuck I'd be screwed, in the middle of nowhere.
it had rained a fair bit the week prior
i'll just come back when it has been bone dry and my legs are less sore and walk the final stretch like the others did or go up from the bottom, I saw where the parking was and you get waterfalls and remnants of an old bucket tramway if you go that way

I've only driven it in mud a few times and it's not confidence inspiring, but maybe that's just how mud is and you need more serious tires and a locker to conquer it

>>28966046
>Pico is available with a regular auto
Made an error here. Kia has dropped the regular auto for an automated manual now. Only ever interested in the manual, so I hadn't noticed.

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>Americans using 4x4 AWD diff lock tank truck with monster truck wheels and automatic transmission to fail driving on level ground on good roads or when it is thin ice layer, to do something Nordic moms do daily with 90s FWD shitboxes with manual transmission in worst possible roads or even without roads

>>28968764
>european kia
>kinda looks like pa in the background
wat

>>28968860
It is ai image you fucking retard. Also is "pa" some third world american thing? Wtf is "pa".

>>28968920
pennsylvania

>>28967436
>swastika wheels
Wtf

>>28969009
it's supposed to suggest "hi tech"

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>>28969009
The Germans did it better.

>>28969791
the hell is an opel

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>>28969815
It was General Motors brand in Germany

>>28969829
both the mens swimsuits and the car color are hideous
they really chose awful colors
the red looks the best

>>28969829
What was the best Opel of all time?

>>28964612
wimp

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>>28969908
I have no idea. This one looks okay.

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>>28969908
>What was the best Opel of all time?

>>28972577
But how does it drive?
Also, iirc Saabs were just rebadged Opels by the 90s.

>>28972746
IDK. Opel's were only offered in my country for maybe a year or so, before they failed. Never even sat in an Opel.

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>>28969829
bring back pontiac

>>28954632
Kia, built for cocks up your ass

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>>28973616
You sound like another happy Kia owner. Happy pride month.

>>28973795
kinda boring color

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>>28973822
At least the Pico has a reasonable range of colours. I think the red looks best.

>>28974282
they don't make any of the colors that interesting, Kia doesn't do nice bold colors, sadly

I saw a Chebby Sonic (daewoo) and it came in pink, that was a nice color.

>>28964612
Literally just drive through this at 8 mph. Momentum my dude. I also carry a winch with me just in case.

>>28974589
The AWD system doesn't seem that confident. There's no transparency to its action and it was slipping at 15mph - not a lot, but once or twice despite me trying to take good lines. It also broke traction the day before going on a steep muddy downhill but not exactly in thick mud. And the steering has no feel so it's hard to trace specific lines when you need a narrow path.
Easier to just come back when it's been dry.

>>28974596
I think your car might just be an absolute utter shitbox incapable of performing on the same level of a FWD 30 year rusted out shitbox on blown shocks and bald tires and no brakes.

>>28974636
I dont really want to risk getting stuck by myself.

>>28974639
how's the rugged outdoors working out for your kia?

>>28974596
>I broke traction so I cannot drive on this
fuck, please tell me you don't live anywhere with rain/snow/ice. you sound like a danger on the road

>>28974644
Built for the sanitized, developed outdoors

>>28974644
It was ok except for that one mudpit.

>>28974671
>mudpit
brother thats a damp road

>>28974671
sounds like you need a FWD 30 year rusted out shitbox on blown shocks and bald tires and no brakes

>>28974724
no, I think there really is a big diff between all terrain and mud tires, and 8 inches of ground clearance has its limits

>>28974672
it was far worse irl

>>28974666
nice trips

>>28954632
It's like a BYD but overpriced and worse quality.

>>28975389
no, it has more real buttons than a BYD, it's quite nice having a dedicated button for things I use a fair bit like AWD lock, ventilated seats, and auto-start stop and also you can one-shot disable the speed limiter warning
BYD is known for ineffective intrusive ADAS systems, the best part of Kia is their software programming.

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>>28975389
>It's like a BYD
Kia has been a respected automaker for American's for generations.
BYD is a new EV startup, since 2023.
They're not the same.

>>28976013
they've come a long way

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>>28976089
>they've come a long way
But they've stayed true to their roots. Picanto is the true successor to the original FordFestiva/KiaPride. About the same size, but about 200kg porkier, probably due safety legislation.

>>28957154
Fortunately the dealership service bay is never far out of reach.

>>28976132
>4 speed automatic
>13 seconds to 60
I think you only glaze it because you haven't driven it.

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>>28976162
Have driven a pre-update in yellow. Was a fun little car.

>>28976013
>Kia has been a respected automaker
kek cope
kias are rental car specials. super cheap garbage cars that will work for a couple years before grenading.

>>28976170
I think you only like it cuz its tiny and cute-shaped. I hope they make a new one and make it hybrid-only and thus more expensive, and bigger and much uglier so you won't glaze it at all.

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>>28976240
>you only like it cuz its tiny and cute-shaped
I always try to pick the cheapest reasonable choice in the market, as a good value, brand new car. I have also promoted the Mazda2, Mitsubishi Mirage, Honda Jazz/Fit and various Suzukis over the years. At the moment, my choice is the Pico and I will continue to promote it on /o/ until something better comes along. If I lived in North America maybe I'd promote the Versa manual.

>>28976013
Kia was so respected that they had to get bought out by Hyundai since they made garbage for 2 decades. Once people figure out Hyundai also makes garbage they'll get acquired by someone as well.

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>>28976416
They don't appear bad.

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>>28976421
Also

>>28976421
>reliability testing on new cars
Into the trash it goes. Call me when they collect data on all the thousands of Korean cars sitting in junkyards because the owners got tired of dealing with them.

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>>28976455
I'm not promoting the whole Kia brand, only the 2017-onwards Kia Picanto, a model that the USA doesn't get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi7msp8Tnlg

>>28976477
you just think it looks cute cuz it's so small
if they tried to sell something that shitty and small in America it just wouldn't sell well. Chebby sold horrid Daewoo shitboxes here before and still does with the Trax and Buick envista.

poor people penalty boxes

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>>28976480
>you just think it looks cute cuz it's so small
I do like smol cars. I daily drive a Suzuki. Also it's the cheapest manual car you can buy.

>>28976504
it's not cheap and manual because it's some screaming deal, it's just shitty and outdated

>>28957154
Hideous car

>>28964612
My 2015 Honda Crosstour would go over this easily

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>>28976509
The Pico is neither shitty, nor outdated, but it is cheap to buy and own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrv3lk7GcZc

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>>28954632
>>28967678
does it have fording mode tho?

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the interior is just pvre sovl ngl

>>28976559
lol yes it is

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Why does the 2027 Kia Telluride look so fucking good

>>28977086
wow it looks like every other suv that's so crazy

>>28976626
>>28976632
God I want a BTR-60 so bad

>>28977086
it's still not big enough, the engines are kinda shit because they won't attach a battery to the v6, and the interior is less nice than the last gen

>>28976632
it's just cheap slop

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>>28976626
>does it have fording mode tho?
Kek. See >>28958666
>>28976632
>the interior is just pvre sovl ngl
Same.

>>28977086
A huge ugly black brick, perfect for a huge ugly black prick like yourself

>>28977624
what would you prefer?