Why not?

because japanese gookslop is all hybrid turbo soulless slop

>>28968730

>>28968721
Some old Hyundais like the Lambda V6 were based as hell at being fast and reliable, and when considering Honda is currently making turbski engine's that can't go 200,000 trouble free miles, I wouldn't feel any shame about buying a brand new gook because it's like not like the 2000s where you're thinking "well this 2.4L Accord costs more but I'm gonna run it for 20 years and not have to take the fucking cylinder head off", 10th gen Accord isn't even a fucking decade old yet and it's blowing head gaskets en masse.

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>>28968721
>why do people buy this
Korean cars are cheaper to buy than Japanese.

>>28968721
Japanese reliability and performance isn't a guarantee anymore, so why take the gamble (when buying new and unproven) when you could save 5000 by going Korean?

>>28968721
Are all those things true or do you believe them to be true because of their reputation? Do you think if Hyundai underwent a radical transformation, like for example if they replaced their CEO and started hiring outside engineers and designers from other car makers like BMW, Porsche, Ford, and Lamborghini, that led development of new models, would you be willing to accept that those cars were better than the old cars or would you still associate them with the older cars simply because they have the same badge

>>28969012
>started hiring outside engineers and designers from other car makers like BMW
they already did that with their N cars and they are great for the money if you want cheap performance

people don't want to pay the $5-10k goy tax for a honda or a toyota.

>>28968968
not sure about those prices, but in murica those prices are still about equal. for example, the corolla is 22k-24k, and gook's cheapest option is only 1k to 2k less.

>>28969111
yeah but you get more features for the same money with korean cars

>>28968968
>Korean cars are cheaper to buy than Japanese
Not when you must buy 5 - 80 korean cars to match the longevity of a normal car.

You will buy an EV

Thirdie here. They look like shit. They dont perform great, however they just do what a car should do. Jump in and drive and thats whst they do. No connection, no update, no emissions no nothing.

Because they have better styling than japshit and they are cheaper, at least until they break then it costs as much as a mercedes to repair.

>>28969749
>Jump in and drive and thats whst they do
I feel like they made it too easy to do just that. Kia boys and all.

Is Hundai the ones that recently introduced those retarded dogbone brakelights? Holy shit, I see red everytime I see those.

>>28968730
so is korean gookslop but with more retarded engineering decisions and spotty build quality

put a gun to my head and tell me to choose between american cars and korean cars and i'll just tell you to pull the trigger

>>28968740
hyundai golden age was 00s where they perfected 1990s mitsubishi tech in a package meant for third world shitholes

after that you got engine failures left and right whether you got the v6 or 4cyl or 4cyl turbo

>>28969111
better financing + warranty

styling helps too look at how many roasties paid $5-10k over sticker for palisades tellurides and santa fes

>>28969860
>better financing + warranty
warranty is useless and financing lasts longer than the car

>>28969866

>warranty is useless

depends on who you talk to

i've heard of satisfied hyundai/kia customers who use it without a issue 5-7 years into the cars ownership which shocked me too

>>28969868
>5-7 years into the cars ownership which shocked me too
Man, look at all those korean cars lasting 5 years
Just kidding

>>28969860
yeah i forgot that all of the cheapo brands like gookslop, nissan, etc offer 0% interest deals, toyota/honda does not. although toyota/lexus has been offering their EV loans at 0% interest rate, but who wants those?

>>28969873
there's tons of older korean cars out on the road

>>28971521
Yes, in poor areas, retards often just leave total loss cars out on the side of the road, it's true.

>>28971621
I see way, way more abandoned old American cars in rural areas. I mean older Korean cars (2000-2010) being driven.

A lot of people (correctly) view buying a car like buying a washing machine or a fridge. You get the one that makes the most sense for you and you don’t give it much thought than that. If it runs and you can fit things in it and it can move passengers about you buy it

If you were running a laundromat or a restaurant you wouldn’t buy a cheap washer/fridge, much like if you were a car enthusiast or after something exotic you’d probably look elsewhere from the Korean manufacturers. But people aren’t doing that and with lower disposable income than ever, Korean manufacturers do well

>>28968721
They're cheap and will finance anyone with a pulse, same as Nissan.

>>28969860
>so is korean gookslop
except its not though
there are no NA non hybrid engines except in the honda pilot
Kia still has na 4 and 6 cyl options

>>28971720
the kia n/a 4cyls spin bearings and the v6s either spin bearings or pull the threads out the block for the studs and blow headgaskets

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m little KИ R10 has been working just fine for 12 years

>>28971895
based
I never use the remote start because the AC starts up in like 2-3 minutes even after sitting out in the heat and there's ventilated seats. It's definitely nice if you time it 5 min before you finish a hard summer hike, but not strictly necessary anymore given how fast cars heat up.

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>someone just got BTFO on the street by a based N

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>bro buys kia soul
>i tell him not to but he wants a new scion xb and the soul is it
>gets 3rd party extended warranty
>fast forward 3 years
>me and him move across the country
>kia spins a bearing literally the instant it gets here
>he is now upside down in a 20,000 dollar nonfunctional gookshit with a warranty the dealership will not honor because this particular west coast kia dealer has a "bad experience" with the 3rd party insurance provider the east coast kia dealer put on the car under orders from the bank that provided the loan

never buy korean, never let your friends buy korean, do not engage with korean car companies' propaganda. they are badly made cars that do not last, the company is shifty and unwilling to support their products, and the dealership experience is insulting, the employees are always rude and acting like they are busy and overworked even if it's a secretary who sits on her ass all day.
i pray every day pyongyang glasses seoul to save the world from the menace that is south korea's garbage automobiles and worse music.

>>28972378
>fast forward 3 years
Did this nigga even change oil? Jesus

>>28972378
How the fuck are you $20k underwater after making 3 years of payments on a car that wasn't even $20k MSRP? Jesus some people are bad with money.

>>28972443
That's what i'm thinking, niggas are so broke, it's like a life ending thing when the shop (if they even go there for oil) tells them it needs brakes or the tires(s) are worn.

>>28968968
>$78,000 Corolla

???

>>28972483
probably including the gr corolla as an "option"

>>28968721
>>28968968
this
>>28968976
this
>>28969038
this
>>28971696
Did anybody mention they were cheap?
People will always go to the lowest bidder. I think its really understated how much the Koreans threw a gut punch at the domestic automakers by overtaking them as the cheap option.

>>28972443
my friend is not really smart with cars and neither are his roommates. he is really tall and it's hard for him to fit into things that aren't like a box van or a scion xb with fuckloads of head and leg room, so it's frustrating for him to try out cars since the fun stuff he physically can't drive and the stuff that he physically fits in is usually too expensive
that said he has shitty posture and doesn't even attempt to modify cars so they'll be more comfortable for him, he's lazy and just wants to go home and draw his furry porn commissions and not think about the appliance sitting outside until it's time to go grocery shopping.

>>28972418
>Did this nigga even change oil? Jesus
yes but the stop/start system plus n/a kia engines' tendency to spin bearings got him. to the car's credit it made it across the united states to the west coast before dying and didn't strand him anywhere.

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>>28968721
Korean cars have massively improved. They hand out longer warranties, are cheaper and have modern tech. Japanese cars are still at the top however.

>>28975290
>Korean cars have massively improved.
What an interesting thing to say, Mr. salesman.
They are as fragile and short lived as they were before I was born but now they set themselves on fire and they made a bunch that were easy to steal.
Weird to call that an improvement.
>They hand out longer warranties
Where are the cars that last as long as the longer warranty? Where are the cars that lasted as long as their shorter warranty?

>>28975346
Honda 1.5Ts are blowing the fucking head gasket as early as 80,000 miles Anon, and I'm the most die hard K series motherfucker on the road, but I'm not gonna act like the new ones are THAT much more worry free than a Korean car

Cars are kinda ass right now, I do like those 2.0L non turbo Civics as well as the hybrid paired up with the 2.0L engine, but if we're talking turbo Jap vs turbo Gook, I don't know if there's much of a difference.

>>28975353
>buuuuut hondas
Neato.
How did that improve korean cars?

>>28975356
The Korean cars have more based transmissions than the Hondas do now Anon, they're offering dual clutch in the Elantra when Hondas only doing CVT, there's a lot of shit the Korean cars are doing right and people just want to ignore.

>>28975359
>Let me read this sales brochure very loudly and pretend it's not an advertisement
What use is a car when it only lasts 5 years?
What use is it's warranty when the car doesn't last as long as the warranty?
What use is a transmission when it is installed in a car that has such a limited life?

>>28975365
Jesus Anon, Hyundais fucking last if you take care of it, I think most of the reputation Hyundai has for blowing up is because so many people are shit owners, just like how Hondas back in the day had a reputation for blowing the automatic transmission because a lot of the owners can't into a fucking ATF drain and fill every so often.

>>28975369
>I think most of the reputation Hyundai has for blowing up is because so many people are shit owners
shill blaming the customer, a tired old game

>>28971696
This. Using niggers and other such trash for sales

>>28975373
That's just the reality of cars Anon, typically more expensive cars have a brighter ownership history than cheaper ones, why do you think big altima energy exists? It's because the car is attainable.

>>28968721
Cant say about the current offerings, but the 2012 Elantra I have is the acme of mediocrity.
Gets decent mileage, is reliable enough, and is basically "good enough" for everything else.
Would I buy one new?
Nope.
Did not even want the one I have but the customer could not pay the repair bill, so I ended up with the thing.
It basically cost me ~$3000.00 if I factor in labor.

>>28975373
It's not just the Korean makes, shitty/stupid people abuse stuff, and it's not just cars.
I lost track of how many otherwise once decent vehicles were destroyed by dumb niggers doing dumb nigger things like not checking oil, or doing suspension mods with a propane torch and dimension lumber.

>>28975377
>That's just the reality of cars Anon, typically more expensive cars have a brighter ownership history than cheaper ones, why do you think big altima energy exists? It's because the car is attainable.
How expensive were those first gen frontiers that are still on the road today? Asking for a friend.

>>28975380
>first gen frontiers
I live in a rust free area and hardly see those bastards due to Mexican gardeners beating them up and people using them as intended.

>>28975379
>It's not just the Korean makes, shitty/stupid people abuse stuff, and it's not just cars.
>I lost track of how many otherwise once decent vehicles were destroyed by dumb niggers doing dumb nigger things like not checking oil, or doing suspension mods with a propane torch and dimension lumber.
>>28975373
>shill blaming the customer, a tired old game
Still no old korean cars on the road, no matter how often this excuse is used.

WTF is this discussion?
>anecdotal evidence
https://car-recalls.eu/reliability/
discuss data MFs

>>28975813
>click Honda expecting immediate mention of the known head gasket that goes out and costs you 5 grand
>no mention
Recall websites are so fucking fake it's unreal

>>28968721
have you ever driven past their stealerships? They basically give cars away to low credit people like cupcakes. It's no wonder these cars were the ones that started all the 'kia boys' theft and shit. People buy them not because they can, people buy them because they can't buy other brands

>>28975819
>Recall websites are so fucking fake it's unreal
You're describing only one dataset, but there are quite a few of them there. For example:
https://car-recalls.eu/german-dekra-most-and-least-reliable-cars-100000-km-tests/

>>28975832
>#1 reliable car
>a fucking audi e-troon that hasn't even existed long enough to reveal itself to be an audi piece of shit when it starts breaking catastrophically
>go down the list
>it's praising more vag pieces of shit for still being running after 60,000 miles which is literally nothing
That's that bullshit again, initial quality and recalls doesn't mean shit when a car is new, I wanna know how it holds up for 10 years plus.

>>28975842
Good, it's nice to see that you've looked at two datasets. Interested in reading more?
https://car-recalls.eu/reliability/reliability-tuv-report-2025-10-11-years/
Just as with the previous 100kkm test, a simple extrapolation needs to be made.

How long do we have to keep bending over backwards before admitting that these are just average cars?
The days when you could judge a product's quality based solely on the brand are long behind us. In fact, they're so far behind that you can't even see them in the rearview mirror anymore. It's been well over a decade.
As for Hyundai, it's hard for me to comment, but Kia has been the vehicle of choice for the local police for well over a decade (only BMWs and Alfas are still used for pursuit).
A few years ago, while looking into the results of a public audit of local PD and looking at the figures for reliability, maintenance costs, repair costs, and repair times, I started wondering whether my next car would be a Korean.
So far it hasn't happened, company Škoda serves me well.

>>28974746
>I think its really understated how much the Koreans threw a gut punch at the domestic automakers by overtaking them as the cheap option.
Not only do the Koreans still have a sedan lineup, but they also undercut on most (if not every) CUV option, while being of much better quality. The last hold-outs for USDM are in the true SUV space and pickups, both of which Kia/Hyundai are poised to attack anyway.

As far as Japanese brands go, barring Nissan they have a reputation for quality that is only as of very recently fading as ICE motors continue to push the limits with turbos and CVTs. This will keep them competitive but as Hyundai lays its stake in the electric market as the "quality" option, and as Chinese brands inevitably drop in, a lot of the legacy manufacturers, most of all the Japanese, will probably be caught with their pants down.

Volkswagen isn't even in this conversation because they blew themselves up in the 2010s.

>>28972484
>probably including the gr corolla as an "option"
Correct.