>>2864201
No one

A sleeping mattress/pillow that actually crooks your neck/head up a little bit. Nothing is worse than sleeping totally flat.

>>2864244
I'm gonna bring a pillow, either q real one or the compact camping balloon, it sucks but I've slept on it for a month plus straight before and was fine

Every single air mattress or pad I have gotten for camping always gets a hole or leaks air overnight until it's flat by morning, waking me up early to not being able to roll comfortably over, due to being directly on the ground.
Even the super expensive ones, even the ones people who say they've never had that problem recommend to me hearing this. I just do not think they're reliable whatsoever, especially in long-term camping. As such, yoga mats or the accordion mats are what I use now. I strongly prefer the accordions because they usually weigh a lot less and have a thicker cushion and better protection from the ground leeching your heat.
That said, the yoga mats are easier to manage and carry since they roll up rather than fold.

>>2864275
Both yoga matt's and the acordian egg foam ones suck, they are too thin to provide insulation or comfort

>>2864295
Then your option is to hope your inflatable mattress is just spontaneously one of the perfect ones that never deflate at all so you don't wake up in the middle of the freezing night with zero ground insulation or bring a car and put a mattress down. The accordion ones can be really good if you find the right ones, and the trick with yoga mats is to bring two and roll them into each other for a big roll. Downside is they're heavy like this.

Truly this is where hammock campers excel. I've personally slept on the ground so long I'm fine with a mexican blanket as a bedroll.

>>2864275
Brother I sleep on a $12 inflatable mat I bought at Aldi. You suck at clearing your tent site or you are a humongous fatty. I’m 6’3” 217 and my big ass still hasn’t popped it

>>2864275
you need to only blow it up like 3/4ths full you are blowing it up all the way and are amazed when you jump on it with your 300 pounds it pops, but seriously clear your site and blow it up like 50% and it will last forever

>>2864335
I have never had any issues with the inflatable ones, provided theyw ere not defective from purchase, I'm convinced that guy is full of shit when ever I see some one with a yoga mat or the acordian style fold out mats I know they don't go out

>>2864337
i have, but once i stopped blowing it up all the way i was amazed they worked like i would blow it up till i couldnt put anymore air into it, and it literally always popped within a week they are also more comfy cause they mold more to your body

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>>2864201
location dependent. if trees, hammock; if no trees, bivy. always tarp.

>>2864338
I way 65kg I blow them up all the way always, I had one I slept on 30 plus consecutive nights before it broke on me

>>2864341
No trees I will be near Masada in the desert part of the Jordan river valley

>>2864201
>witch

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>>2864335
Yes I know and I do this, I have heard it repeated so many times. The fact is that using these longterm isn't sustainable, you never see vagabonds using them for that reason, they're not designed to be durable long-lasting products.

>>2864321
I'm 5'11" and 190 lbs, and again I know the proper methods to keeping these working and that they can deflate slightly from the cold at night and so on. In my experience and my experience with other people using them and the number of reviews I've read through feverishly trying to shop for a good one that won't do this shit because there legitimately is no better alternative, the only way they can be useful in my eyes is something that's accepted as semi-disposable.
Do not underestimate how autistically and deep I have studied highly into this matter since it's more than a lifestyle for me but my actual day to day life because I refuse to live in fucking jewciety.

I am someone who folds a tarp in a specific way that doesn't allow moisture to get trapped in it to the exact dimensions underneath my tent, weigh it down further with my ground tarp, so that I have zero risk of penetrating my tent floor since it's an ultralite and I have to manicure and princess it due to its durability issues. I regularly sweep and rake the ground beneath it first and I make sure to place my camp in an area where it will get coverage from wind but not soak water beneath it when it rains, while also keeping it from an area that will trap pockets of moisture from the humidity in mornings. I literally spend all day making sure my camp is perfectly in line with what times of day it will be hit by the sun before I even put down my tent and tarps, and then I camp there for a month straight before moving to a new area. These inflatable mats are shit in every single shape and size for a person in this lifestyle, that doesn't mean they aren't good for infrequent campers and trail campers, just that this has been my experience with them.

>>2864372
Why are homeless people writing novellas on 4chin?

>>2864376
I'm not homeless I technically own a manor in Maryland from a trust I just refuse to live in jewsciety like I said.

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>>2864382
Houses are for Drug addicts, Monks, and soldiers.

Let alone the blight upon culture that is apartments. While there are some exceptions, limited few manage to pull off the sequestered-communal square, in right and proper performance for your neighbors.

That said, depending on the region, winter can abrupt a game of musical chairs, betwixt those who are of the proper caste, and those who are truly /out/.

>>2864382
Sure

>>2864337
>ever I see some one with a yoga mat or the acordian style fold out mats I know they don't go out
If you go on a fire assignment or a big search and rescue mission you will see all the professionals with accordian ccf pads. When I worked trail crew thats what everyone used for living /out/ for the summer. Inflatables are for rei types who sleep out a few times a year. People who spends serious time out and need good sleep to perform their job uses ccf pads because there is no chance of them deflating.

>>2864382
no one cares about your baltimore crack shack nigger

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>>2864435
I lied in a tent for over a month and slept on a cheap inflatable mat, and I know people who have used higher qualitie ones for multiple years, ocastionaly you have to patch them but as long as the seam hold you are good, the acordian style egg dimpled fold out mats are useless and only used by yuppies and festival kids who regret their choice imiedently as they lay down on it and then never camp again, if you want something that isguarenteed not to deflate then pic related style is superior, very comfortable

>>2864372
Holy larp your don't go out

>>2864456
Holy shit you suck at spelling
Typical homeless scum

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>>2864201
>Witch is the superior sleep system

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>>2864523
I'm not home less were did this lie originate?
>>2864528
To heavy and not practically unless your in the snow

>>2864372
lol everyone always thinks they've "figured out" air mattresses and respond to you like those two anons did, but they're idiots.

The cost of good material, good manufacturing, and good quality control just aren't worth it for these companies and they're fine with a 80% fail rate because the majority of their customers either won't notice (they never get used) or won't care because everyone expects it

If you're a person who has a reliable air mattress then you didn't do anything special, no more than I did something special to win $5 off a scratcher.

>>2864673
I don't even bother, same kind of people who pack those shitty walmart chairs that always rip.

>>2864673
You clearly don't go out the self inflatables are solid and the gold standard of non car campers

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>>2864201
Op here going out I packed the inflatable matress

>>2864625
jew jew jew jew jew jew jew jew jew jew